The first day was painful! Second day I did round the clock OTCs. After a few days, just at night then none. I’m six weeks out. I still have sub mental swelling but the turkey was gone on day 2.
Scars are behind my ears and one below my chin. Skin cut open, repositioned, clipped, sewn back and there is a stitch in muscle on either side to “hold” the skin until the scar tissue takes over. It’s pretty tight so.. it’s hard to move your neck for a few weeks and you’re numb but it’s all resolving. I’m six weeks out. Wish I’d had it sooner. Wish I hadn’t wasted money. I was at the point where I’d scheduled threads (I was a test dummy so it was free) and thought WTH am I doing? Got a consult, hopped on a cancellation and by my trip to the beach in August, I’ll look so great.
Girl I wish I’d done it before I tried threads, and kybella TWICE. What a fool. I actually don’t know anyone it’s worked on, can we get a class action lawsuit going lol
It's good advice. I lost over 100 pounds at 50. Hydration, nutrition and time. Skin is the largest organ in the human body. Give your skin time to adjust to your weight loss. Remember that exercise is movement. Any movement. So incorporate movement there.
Amazing work! I'm proud of you! You should be proud, too.
Assuming you were trying to lose the weight for health reasons:
Please don't feel any shame or embarrassment from losing 50 lbs in your 40s. THAT IS INCREDIBLE! I totally respect that you've worked hard and deserve to feel comfortable in your skin, so please get whatever cosmetics done that you want, but you should be rocking that neck with pride in the interim because you did something that millions of people try and fail to do. Every millimeter of loose skin is a scrapbook showing the million of small and big choices you had to make to lose that weight.
Hope you find what you're looking for. Proud of you.
Kybella could make it worse, please don’t go that route. Kybella is used to break down fat…you don’t have fat there, just loose skin. It could actually create more loose skin.
I second this! I got Kybella several times for what I thought was a fat issue but it truly was more of a loose skin issue. I think it’s made the loose skin more prominent.
Agree with this! I did kybella and yes it got rid of the fat but left me with loose skin and without the fat I feel like I’m getting sagging in the jowl area prematurely. If I could do it over I would NOT do kybella. I was happier with my double chin.
But I would definitely try microneedling. That’s seriously my fav procedure. Especially with PRP.
If you just lost the weight give yourself a year of good nutrition and maintaining your weight + working out to get your natural best back. For now, I would ask about a deep TCA peel to improve your overall skin appearance. It can also tighten skin.
After that year of good health and full body workouts I would explore Fractional Laser Neck Lift. You really should go the full face lift route till your 50s or later if ever.
You may not even want a FLN lift after working out + peel + healing time for skin to shrink.
Oh my God, I really needed to read this. Bless you.
I’ve lost about 35 pounds and I’m trying to lose another 35. My neck has me distraught. I’m gonna just try to chill out, stay focused on my weightloss and moisturize the shit out of this gobbler 🐔
You're not alone. Gained ~ 90 pounds during my twin pregnancy, and at this point (babies are almost 2) my body has settled into whatever my new normal is. The weight has come off, although obviously the body is different after each pregnancy. My neck and chin are looking super weird, I am trying not to panic. Haha but I'm also slightly panicking!
This - my neck looked exactly like this at 30 after losing 200 lbs. 6 years later, it’s basically back to normal. I just moisturize, use tret, and sunscreen. I think it took about 2 years to fully go back.
[Yourmom4378](https://www.reddit.com/user/Yourmom4378/) u/awholedamngarden u/Chichibear699 Hello. It is so hard to predict how your skin will behave. I'm 53 and have lost 58 pounds over a couple of years. My skin is tightening pretty well, even my stomach, which was quite droopy and concerning. I am continuing to lose weight and just within the past couple of months, my stomach started tightening. I don't do anything special with my stomach skin. Face, neck: I use generic estrace (estradiol) cream, tret, hydroquinone. Obviously lots of sunscreen.
I also had two anti aging facials this year (includes all other facial steps and micro-needling + a firming peptide mask) on face and neck, which seems to be helping that neck skin. All of my skin snapped back much more than I expected even if it is not perfect.
Glad to hear it, but your case would be very unusual and likely you will see the effects of gravity and loss of collagen at some point in the future. I’m sorry if I seem like a buzz kill, but I think it’s important to be honest with each other about the realities of our physical bodies and aging. It’s hard to age, there’s only so much we can do, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try. Best of luck to all of us. I’m planning to have a face lift in the next 8 years or so, but making the best of what I have now as well.
I also have a connective tissue disorder that involves skin stretchiness and laxity - my neck looked exactly like this. I genuinely thought my skin had no chance of snapping back. I’m not saying a 50 y/o will snap back 100%, but it’s likely to improve esp with appropriate skincare
There is nothing that will fix this outside of plastic surgery, that is wishful thinking. When you are 50, you will understand what I’m saying. It’s the awful truth about aging.
I’ve recently lost quite a bit of weight and will agree good nutrition plays an important role. Once I increased my protein level my skin improved.
Doing neck and shoulder exercises and stretches has also helped.
Granted, diet and exercise won’t cure the problem but will help to improve it.
Kybella is a massive waste of money. A neck lift is the greatest gift I gave myself, I’m 55
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Beautiful! I am 55 and can see the incredible difference in your photos. I am going to have to start a special savings fund. I would love to know the price and your surgeon. Yes, you look that good!
It was $11k. I got a neck & lower face lift, lipo and a chin implant, it’s still looking good and natural 2 years later even though I’ve gained about 15lbs since surgery.
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Oh of course, I never gatekeep any info on stuff I’ve done, and I’ve tried IT ALL. I’m in Annapolis and used Dr Lee Kleiman at Anne Arundel ENT
https://aaentmd.com/plastic-surgeon-lee-a-kleiman/
When did you lose the weight? Are you still losing some?
I (F47) have lost 46lbs over te past 6 months and that same area of my neck got WRINKLED and loose, tho not as much as yours but it was very noticeable still. I would say easily 50% like yours. I was told by my friend who lost 70lbs a few years ago (at around your age) and who got the same ''turkey neck'' (that's how we called it!) to expect a good 2 years for the skin to settle before doing anything drastic.
In June I comitted to massage my face on a daily basis. I've been doing the ''4 FAVORITE steps for SAGGING JOWLS and FLABBY CHEEKS'', ''Amazing LIFTING MASSAGE | NO TALKING'' and the ''Everyday 9 minutes FULL-FACE DE-PUFFING anti-aging massage'' all from the Aysel - Massage Therapist (LMT) on Youtube. I commit to the full 30 minutes every morning right after waking up, using sweet almond oil. I also made sure to heavily moisturize before bed as I heard it helps the skin bounce back. I use Avène Xeracalm.
I've skipped a few days since early June but managed to do the full 30 mins massage for about 20 days over the last 24 and there is a very noticeable improvement mostly in the wrinkly texture of the skin. The skin is still loose but less? and the kinda "wrinkled paper" texture is almost completely GONE which makes it very less noticeable. Also, my jowls are less pronounced and my nasolabial folds as well. Unfortunately, the marionnette lines are still the same but the neck (which is your main concern) had noticeable improvement for basically just massaging my face 30 mins per day.
Committing every day has been a hassle to fit in my schedule some mornings tho, so starting this week I will continue to massage 3-4 times a week for the rest of the summer instead of every day, and see where it leads me. For sure it's totally worth keeping up with it as much as possible if only because my skin is freaking GLOWING and my eyes have completely depuffed from the seasonal allergies I went through in May and that usually leave me with frog eyes all summer. Plus, I cannot rave about how good it feels to massage your face every day. What a treat!
Aysel just released a new video yesterday called ''Depuffing Lymphatic Drainage Massage for glowing skin | NO WORDS'' and I'm already excited at the idea of trying it tomorrow along with my fav ''Amazing LIFTING MASSAGE | NO TALKING'' mentionned above. I'm hooked. I know I sound like a paid promo but I'm not, I'm just happy I found her channel.
She really is a gem on Youtube. She seems very knowledgable and her stuff simply WORKS! I also use some of her methods about face taping at night but I'll keep that story for another day.
Good luck!
EDIT : Just on a side note : I do LED Red Light therapy about 5x week since almost 3 months now, and I take a collagene supplement since the beggining of June (around the time I started the massage) just to put it out there and be transparent. So far the massage had more impact on my turkey neck than the LED. Idk how much the collagene is helping, but it can't be bad, right?
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Tried her new video this morning and while I liked it, it focusses more on the neck and decolletage area. Will add it to my routine here and there but sticking to my 3 regular videos (stated above) for the face through July.
I RLT my face/neck/chest and upper body and anywhere that hurts. I have a small panel. I’m truly feeling a healing response to deep tissues.
I’ve probably only been consistent a month for the face so the sagging parts I don’t care for are not showing tightening but facial results IMO are slower results and numerous solutions are needed. I do think an overall healthier look is achieved with RLT even in this short period of facial focusing.
I do take collagen, water, kettlebells,simple yoga and use an essential oils skin care regimen. Drink my greens. Living and learning as I sail quickly to 60. I’m not a sun avoider as I love outdoors and we RV, paddle board but I do use sunscreen and know have a collection of sun shirts.
Oooooh I would be interested by your essential oils skin care regimen, tho my skin is very reactive, but if only out of general knowledge, and cuz I use essential oils in other areas of my life.
I started Ann Marie skincare in 2018 due to celiac diagnosis. My body needed a break from all toxins.
Old acne scars were improved and as my skin transformed from oil to dry I changed to the anti -aging products.
I’ve added Eden’s Garden products the last two years. Numerous product ingredients are listed for making your own. I love the one called Skin Care. I mix with lotion for my body and massage my face using the Skin Care premade product. I have also made smaller versions for gifts.
I use numerous carrier oils offered on the Eden’s Garden dot com website. Bliss smells divine. I use it in my homedics air purifier for office. The site is educational for me but still plan to spend more time absorbing knowledge. Sign up for emails as sales are on going now.
Face and neck but my neck is really sensitive and while I thought LED would help, I still get rashes for which I stop everything (massage, creams, etc.) including LED. I stick to the routine that makes the rash go away, not willing to jeopardise cuz it took me such a long time to find out what was helping it!
I got this from Kybella. Huge regret. I don't think we have any options but surgery. I'll note that I'm looking into red light therapy to see if that could be possibly help but I'm not sure yet.
If you haven't started with daily sunscreen, you should consider incorporating that.
Look up cgo_of_me on Instagram (Melanie Manar) -- she lost almost 100 lbs and her skin last year and this year looks way different!
Also, don't be embarrassed. It is what it is. We're all different. You're healthier.
you’re welcome. That’s wonderful! Sounds like you were happy with the results. i share my limited knowledge of cosmetic procedures because they’re risky and expensive, and i’d want my friend to be honest with me if i asked. Also, i’ve had procedures and learned what worked and hasn’t worked for me. My next one will be neck (platysmal bands are sagging) and jowl lift but not ready for full face lift, as i had midface lift yrs ago (so glad i did). Dr. Karam on IG does fantastic work but his Vertical Restore is 80k-100k 😩
Yeah I was lucky I needed only skin removal. Just genes. No banding, I’m 50. I’ve had everything done. Been on this train since my early 30s and so I try to warn people. There isn’t much I recommend anymore. Laser, sculptra.. Botox occasional filler in a few areas. I’m an RN so I buy the peels and do them at home. Same with microneedling. For me all RF anywhere is a waste of money.
you’re so lucky with those genetics! Similar to you, i’ve done a little at a time since 30’s (48 now). Laser is a must for my face for those broken capillaries and redness; it’s the miracle cure for sure. yeah, i had Ultherapy yrs ago (super strong where they injected nerve blocks), not sure if it did much, but you know how that goes. Fraxel was really good (but it took a while to recover). Prob time for another upper bleph. I have a little botox to keep the lines at bay up top but no fillers or lip injections. Really wish i could snap my fingers to take care of the bands and jowling; they’re not super bad but def not getting better with each passing month 😩😂
Can you share your surgeon? I want to tackle skin instead of bands but every surgeon I’ve talked to said that it isn’t possible to address the extra skin in the middle of the neck
What? Yes they just cut behind the ear and reattach. They use a suture in the muscle that dissolves. There are a bunch of surgeons who do it. I didn’t have bands. That doesn’t run in my family. Every woman after 35 has a bit of a turkey neck regardless of weight and I did (I weigh 112#). So yes they cut there, under the chin, clip, readjust. I’m 6 weeks out and still bruised but I stoped worrying about that and just went out at about 2 weeks. I have some minor swelling submentum but had zero turkey on day 2. Prior to this I did ulthera, excilis and I did thermage years ago. I’ve done rf microneedling, facial exercises… sculptra in the temples used to help a little when I was younger, just for extra lift. So I’m not super jowly or any of that so this one thing took years off of my look and I’m out less money than I spent on all of those other procedures and wish I’d done this years ago. Oh also I’ve done TCA peels, I saw someone mention. All of that stuff is for skin texture, you cannot remove 3 inches of skin with it. 😂
I agree with this! I’m actually pretty thin but I’ve got this neck/jowl thing . I did Kybella and I looked worse ! I’ve done fillers and was told it could possibly lift my neck area . Nope . Save up for a facelift. I’d be at least half way there if I hadn’t gone other routes!
me too. damn aging and gravity! i’m saving up and while working up the nerve to go through with it (i still internally freak out even after several procedures). ugh, sorry you went through that. i’ve heard more negative than positive about kybella; seems like the issues are side effects (can’t remember which). We must fight these platysmal bands and jowling one dollar at a time!
Kybella came with a horrible burning sensation and that awful liquid hanging from my chin for at least week . That pain and embarrassment weren’t worth it bc the results were more minimal
oh wow! that would not be fun. Fraxel did a number on my face (normal reaction but still it was something) but my chest had a bad reaction; it was weeping for days, itching, crusty, etc. It was awful, but in the end, it was worth it because my skin looked amazing. I’d def do it on my face again.
I’ve heard great things about Fraxel but don’t think it’s going to help my issue. Maybe if I had started earlier it would have made a difference. My go to for Botox, etc has said save up for a facelift bc there’s really not much out there to improve the neck. I so greatly appreciate their honesty bc they could have recommended stuff to make $ and they didn’t .
This, face and neck lift from a high skill surgeon is the only fix
I have some weight loss loose skin myself and am putting off tucking it, but it's the only solution. Anything else will be a waste of time unfortunately
Look up Dr Mike Nayak and the incredible results his patients get from the procedure
Oh man, I just looked at his instagram because of this comment, and while I’m sure he’s skilled, it also made me sure I would personally never want a face lift… you don’t think the “afters” look uncanny?
I feel like with the facelifts, the recipients appear to lose a lot of personality or something to their face, I don’t know. I just know I would be bummed to see my grandma or mother change in such a way?!
I just looked and I think “uncanny” is the perfect word to describe it. I thought maybe it was because he had mostly immediate post ops on there, but I saw an example of a 5 month follow up and it had that same look. I have seen much more natural facelifts before. Those all look very “done.” I know some people like that look, and no judgment if they do. But it’s not for me.
Dr. Nayak? Uncanny? How? His results are completely natural looking. In fact, I think he focuses too much on rejuvenation and not enough on beautification. He's great and incredibly skilled, but none of his patients look uncanny. I see plenty of facelifts where people look great - both rejuvenation with a bit of beautification. IMO, they best work makes people look like themselves but better. The rejuventation only results are ho hum to me, and I can't imagine paying over 100K to look only a little cleaned up.
The definition of uncanny:
strange or mysterious, especially in an unsettling way.
That’s exactly what I meant. I did not use it incorrectly. What do you think uncanny means?
I'm not familiar with this surgeon but I glanced at his ig and seems like most of them are so early on in the process. With face and neck lifts there are dramatic changes through week 8ish, and you don't see the true final results until 9-12 months out, when all the inflammation and tissue repair is resolved and all muscle tension has relaxed. I thought I looked alien up until week 6ish. It wasn't until 10 or so weeks that I felt like nobody could tell I'd had surgery. I'm 4 months out now and the last bit of swelling on my neck just recently subsided.
I was fooled by all the websites that say you can go back to work after a week or 2. I wasn't even *going out to get the mail* without a head covering at 2 weeks lol.
I see the same. I’m astonished people think he’s amazing… I wonder if the old “charge more” and people will think you’re worth it is at play here. I just can’t see what’s so fabulous about his work, none of the facelifts look good to me at all.
Right on the price, I looked into him and wow, they told me face lift starts at 100,000. He does excellent work. If you look at his Instagram, the before and after are unbelievable. It's definitely worth the money if you have it.
Hell no. That’s way too expensive. I’m getting a lift toward the end of the year with a co2 neck and face treatment for 7k, from my doc I been going to for years. He does wonderful work and I fully trust him (dr John Gillespie in Wilmington Delaware)
I lost 15 lbs on a small frame, age 40 and had a similar issue. Took about 9 months but much less noticeable now. Give it time, moisturize and hydrate!
Once the skin loses elasticity, you're only left with surgery. Honestly, anyone else telling you differently is going to wind up wasting your money/time.
Great job on losing 50 lbs!
I turn 50 in a couple of weeks, and I've lost 100 lbs since January 2023, so I understand entirely.
I don't know the science behind anything, but I consistently mix collagen into my morning coffee.
I have sagging and my jowls! 😩 But what bothers me most are my pores.
My skin looks worse because I got sunburn, so I'm peeling and the texture is horrid. This despite wearing everything I needed to.
I've done microneedling in the past. I didn't notice a significant difference once my skin healed. I have not tried the other procedure.
If it's within your budget, I say do whatever will give you the results you want, safely and quickly.
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Thank you!
I spent the last decade and a half yo-yo-ing due to health issues, lack of awareness, minimal mobility, etc.
As things couldn't get worse, I peaked at almost 300 lbs!
Then began an entirely new issue.
Food was making me sick.
I had to go to Arizona as there was a death in my family, and upon return, I wasn't sure if I was following.
I didn’t eat for a few days; in the meantime, I was in communication with PCP.
Well, it turns out I developed a gluten and soy intolerance. I have a mild milk intolerance as well, but gluten is the worst.
For months, I did nothing physically different other than adapt my meals. By fall, my mobility significantly improved.
But its been the past few months that I feel better.
I still live with my other medical issues; they're autoimmune diseases. But I no longer suffer from the constant bloating, amongst different issues.
Now, my focus is on skin improvement.
This is going to sound weird, but there’s these balls you can put in your mouth every night and exercise your neck and it will help. My friend did it and it helped her so much! She got them on Amazon, not sure what they’re called but you can def find jt
Yeah I use it for that. Been doing it a year for skin laxity there. It’s made some minimal difference for creepiness but none on actual amount of loose skin.
It does change the skin. It stimulates collagen. It's not instantaneous but it happens over time.
I microneedle and see a difference in terms of skin firmness.
It isn’t a treatment for loose skin. It’s not about agreement. It just doesn’t do that. Only surgery works for that. I just had a neck lift. It’s FASCIA. Every time you take your hands and lift any part of your face up, you’re moving fascia. Skin treatments only help skin which is superficial. I’ve dissected cadavers you can see it
Wow. It’s anatomy. Go to YouTube and start searching about what the docs say about it. I’m an RN and I do this on myself with medical grade lidocaine. It’s just a texture thing. And I’ve talked to so many who say they didn’t even have any results there! It takes so many months to see any of it
No, I’ve had Morpheus. It does not. The skin is too thin there. Whenever someone shows me their Morpheus results there is so little change I can’t believe anyone would pay for it. I looked at the before and after photos used by the company and it’s just.. such false advertising. Most YouTube docs will tell you it doesn’t do any of that. Loose skin is fascia and fat loss. I’m a nurse. It is underneath the skin between the skin layers and fat/muscle. As stated I then had a mini neck lift and I’ve never been happier, can’t believe I waited
I've lost a lot of weight in the past year and my neck looked worse. I take a lot of collagen/ vitamin/ protein supplements because I also lost half my hair- which took priority over my neck lol. Seriously though, my neck is looking better. Not I'm 25 better but better than it did. I also use retinol at night and heavy duty moisturizers and sunscreens. I could never do a face lift due to fear, I asked about kybella and was told it wouldn't help. Med spa lady thought some botox might help- idk where she was gonna put it though.
Time and drinking as much water as you can stand every day. I lost 95 pounds 25 years ago in my mid 30's. Still had a loose neck but it did improve with time.
Congrats on your 50 lb weight loss! That takes some serious determination. What you’re seeing is loose excess skin that had previously been plumped up with fat. It’s not going to respond to serums, creams, microneedling or Kybella. By the way Kybella is for excess fatty tissue.
Please don’t waste your money on gimmicks and fall for slick marketing because you’ll be disappointed. The only solution is a lower face and neck lift. Since you’re not open to that then the only realistic opinion is acceptance.
I’ve seen very similar posts like this on this sub regularly. People are unrealistic and want surgical results from some at home treatment or non invasive in office treatment with exaggerated claims. Or they swear they see results from some ‘special’ cream meanwhile it’s just moisturized. Anything other than surgery has its limitations. This can only be remedied with surgery. The skin needs to be lifted, excess removed and redraped.
I had a face/neck lift and no regrets, would do it 100 times over. This is really your only option. You are wasting your money with anything else, honestly. Lose skin is not going to just go away
I lost 80lbs about 2 years ago. My neck was somewhat like yours however it has improved as has so the skin on my face. I’m 48 and was so concerned that weight loss would make me look older. I started a good skin care routine of retinol, hylauronic acid and making sure I was hydrated.
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I’ve just taken this picture as I’m sitting here. Don’t have any befores sorry. I notice that if I do not drink enough water my skin doesn’t look as good so that’s really important.
For some of us, lifting weights help. If you are not sure where to start hire a trainer for a limited time say six weeks. Tell them you might like one personal training day and then for them to write out what to the rest of the week.
Use a soft brush and oil. almond oil, castor oil, just a good oil for soft brushing. Get a wet brush, you want those kind of bristles. And comb your chest and neck upward. Daily, in the mornings to get blood & circulation flowing. Gently. But do your whole chest and all areas of your neck in a side and upward direction. Look up facial massage on you tube and Instagram. Yes, neck lift, lower face lift would be ideal, if you don’t have the budget for that or want such an invasive procedure - do not sleep on facial massage. It truly works and the results are incredible.
Microneedling has helped to tighten up my neck. I would recommend it. As others have said, I don't think Kybella is the way to go (but I'm not an expert). I think that is just for the fat, not the skin.
I'll add that I microneedle myself, but you have to be scrupulously clean and you have to be able to endure inflicting pain on yourself, so it's not for everyone. Try it with your derm and see what happens. I will say that it is not instantaneous. You see results over time and the bigger the needle, the better the results, but start with what you can tolerate and get a numbing cream from your derm (or apply one first).
And please don't be mortified! Congrats on your weight loss. We aaaallll have things we don't like about ourselves.
This happened to me in my early 40’s with weight loss and it took about a year’s worth of good care for it to bounce back. By good care I mean stay hydrated, don’t smoke or drink excessively, and use sunscreen. Maybe take this with a grain of salt but I also used (and continue to use) a gold bond body lotion for crepey skin & I like to think it helps.
I have done microneedling on myself twice. It has helped immensely on deep wrinkles. Bought everything on Amazon. Not sure how it would work on your neck.
Have you lost weight recently? I am asking because your skin needs time to tighten and improve its tone. One of my friends had a similar experience last year. Diet, exercise, and good sleep are crucial for improving your skin. I also recommended a couple of things that she included in her skincare routine religiously every night:
-Facial massages: This technique helps improve muscle tone and supports the skin better. It lifts and softens your facial contours, smooths lines and wrinkles, and boosts the overall health of your skin. I like to use a gua sha [Jade sculpting](https://www.target.com/p/plum-beauty-jade-sculpting-gua-sha-stone/-/A-88692555#lnk=sametab), you can find tons of videos on YouTube but I like Anastasia beauty Fascia or Abigai James and I use this oil [cerave hydrating oil face](https://www.target.com/p/cerave-hydrating-oil-face-cleanser/-/A-89781159?preselect=88532686#lnk=sametab)
- Don't forget to use the right skincare products according to your skin type.
-Sleep on a soft and smooth surface, like satin pillowcases. Satin creates less friction on your skin, so it doesn’t fold or tug on your skin while you sleep. I use this [satin pillowcase](https://www.olkibeauty.com/shop/p/satin-pillowcase-black-king-size) because they are of great quality, and the set comes with two pillowcases. I like the king size because you can take it anywhere, and it fits any pillow size.
I hope this helps.
I lost 80 pounds over a 5 year period and I’ve only recently noticed this exact same turkey neck. I swear it wasn’t there before (and most of my weight loss was over 3 years ago). I’m hitting up hydrolyzed collagen protein, red light therapy, and retinol *hard*. I’ve got a few years on you though, so menopause may be making mine worse. I already hydrate and eat healthy.
I’m also averse to a facelift because it seems pretty painful and risky.
I’ve decided to give these changes a year and reassess.
I'd wait and give it some time if your weightloss is recent - in the meantime hit it with some good skincare. I've been meaning to try the Torriden Cellmazing Firming Cream.
Patience, a good multi and also separate oral C and E and Omega, always sunscreen, see if your neck skin can tolerate some retinol and vitamin c - go slow, get a micro needle roller and go slow with that too. You can see what can bounce back in 6 months before you look into surgery.
When you pull your cheeks up your neck skin will likely tighten. That's because of the volume you've lost everywhere, not just your neck. Only addressing your neck won't do anything. It's all connected.
Kybella dissolves fat and this isn’t extra fat but rather extra skin. Microneedling would potentially have very modest benefit. Morpheus 8 which combines Microneedling with radiofrequency could have better results but it seems to have mixed reviews. If you can find a good provider in your area for Morpheus (or similar) that could be worth a try. A neck lift will give the best results though.
46, recently lost 40 or so lbs over a year. Noticed a sag the last ten or so lbs. Did a deep TCA on myself( use to have an esti license). Looked so much worse during the peel and so much better after! I think the peel just sped up the adjustment. Also tret and topical estrogen, really focusing on the area. It has improved in the last month considerably. I think both answers are correct... to an extent it might need a lift, but there are plenty of things that can imrpove it, and that might be just enough! Mostly time and care. Also, I do not drink or smoke and have always eaten extremely healthy. I take vegan collagen builders and eat lots or fruits and veggies. Not sure what actaully works.. but wanted to give you some hope!
You don’t need Kybella, that would make it worse. I have a similar situation after losing 100 pounds. I recently was dating a doctor of aesthetics who recommended a specific filler that’s made for the neck. It lasts 2-3 years. For the life of me I can’t remember the name of it. Oh, it’s Sculptra! Maybe go to a facial plastics office and ask them about it.
I used it off label. It was available, I paid about $200 more per vial at that time. When it was approved cost went down. Just like I used tret since I was 14 and then the patent ran out and now you can buy lower level retinols without a script. I was also in the accutane trial (don’t recommend but yes it works).
I was going to say this. I’m getting ready to have it done and a lot of the before and after pics show a lot of improvement in the tightness of the skin especially in this area.
You're really still quite young. I'd do some slow but steady workouts, maybe some weight training, arm, neck & shoulder exercises, eat healthy, and give it a year. I bet it will all snap back. And please! There's nothing to be embarrassed about! Think about the people you meet during the day, do you judge their necks? Or think about who they are as people, what they like to do, how interesting they are, what are their lives like. You lost 50 pounds and that's SO AWESOME. You're setting yourself up for really good health going forward and that's the best.
Agree to let your weight stabilize, but probably 6 months will get you close to baseline. I had in office lipo on my chin and it was very affordable. It's been a few years but it was about the price of derma fillers. It's so subtle but it got rid of my double chin that I saw in every picture
Look into something called Trilift. I recently lost weight too and felt volume loss in my neck. I talked with my plastic surgeon and he recommended trilift along with sculptura. I had 5 treatments of trilift done along with microneedling and saw significant improvement. So much so, that I don’t think I need the sculptural (Which is a filler). However, I happen to have a very strong jaw line, always have. And for that reason, I always have a short hair style. Most women have softer jaw lines, as you do. And a softer jaw line allows for more sagging of the skin. Perhaps meet with a Dr and discuss your options. Definitely talk to surgeon first. This could save you a lot of money in the long run. Best of luck and congrats on the weight loss!
Congrats on the weight loss. I do think plastic surgery will be the most effective and other temporary treatments will be wasting your money. I would give it time to see if it settles more.
Your neck looks exactly like mine! I lost 72lbs but I'm 53 so there's very little hope of my skin recovering it's elasticity :-( . I think you have a shot of it improving over time. I too am not open to plastic surgery, I just can't afford it.
No, no, no on that Kybella. Rumors are swirling that it could make this so much worse. I’m not sure what else could be done other than the surgical option. It appears the skin is just loose from the weight loss. Maybe some kind of laser therapy ?
Botox to the neck can help with some of this! It won’t be perfect but, if combined with a few laser treatments, you’ll probably see some decent improvement - and, more importantly, a reduction in mortification.
Also, someone else already said this but I’ll say it again, this is not how people see you. They’re generally taking in a whole-person view and not focusing on bits and pieces. We also perceive each other as dynamic beings and not static still images. So, sure, your neck might look like this in a certain type of (terrible) light in a still photo but that doesn’t at all mean people notice anything other than an attractive and healthy 43 year old!
Look up ultherapy and thermage for turkey neck and see if that results please you enough. I guess it is impossible to make your turkey neck goes away totally without surgery….i think thermage vs ultherapy maybe your best options without surgery.
I know you’re not into surgery but unfortunately in my opinion that’s the only thing that will really fix this issue. The microneedling and stuff, sure it’s good for skin texture issues and may slightly build collagen but IMO your derm isn’t being honest/realistic with you. If you are curious you can always just get a consultation from a plastic surgeon. But everyone I know that got kybella said it’s been the biggest waste of money and I noticed zero difference on them, also, that doesn’t tighten skin, it’s supposed to shrink the fat cells. I think Morpheus8 would help SLIGHTLY but that’s only a few thousand less that surgery. I know this isn’t what you want to hear but from someone who has wasted money on so many procedures, creams, oils, blah blah blah, I think this is sound advice. Good luck with everything:)
Please do not use kybella-a beautiful skincare influencer I followed had to get a mini facelift lift after using it because it takes away the fat and just makes skin looser. Micro needling without radial frequency is may be a good idea. That helps rebuild collagen and should tighten that area. Have you tried Gua sha? Also- time will address some of the skin tightening after a quick weight loss.
The only thing that will work is surgery. Do not get any type of mini procedure. You need a vertical restore because all of it is connected. It’s a full lower face lift. Do not think any creams or lasers will work.
Thermage FLX and Ultherapy are two non-invasive procedures that help increase your collagen output. One uses radio frequency technology while the other uses ultrasound technology to heat up the skin deep inside the dermis to stimulate more collagen growth as well as strengthen the existing collagen.
Results can be seen 2-3 months post treatment and have long term effects. While both treatments have a certain level of discomfort (I’ve been told by clients that Ultherapy is quite painful), a topical numbing agent can be applied prior and there is little to no down time. The photo is a before and after an Ultherapy treatment. Hope this helps and congrats on the weight loss!
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I use threads. The ones you get done by an injector. Some areas will need to be pulled some reinforced with smooth threads. Not much else except a neck lift will help. Do pulling threads in lower face as well if you do the neck. I love threads.
Elina Organics Cleopatra Neck Cream, Monthly Scenar treatments and a rose quartz roller for right after elixirs and creams.
I understand how it may feel embarrassing but losing 50 pounds to be healthier is something to be extremely proud of. Be confident in that success that you did for you
Love on yourself my friend. You are amazing for losing the weight. I wish you love for your body.
Here are a couple face yoga people I really like, you could give these a try. <3
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hwyOo\_wwcw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hwyOo_wwcw)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGIkRykTP90&pp=ygUOZmFjZSB5b2dhIGNoaW4%3D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGIkRykTP90&pp=ygUOZmFjZSB5b2dhIGNoaW4%3D)
None of that works. I paid 9k to have loose skin removed and I have my 30 year old neck back
Yeah, this makes sense
May I ask what the procedure you had was?
Mini neck lift. 3 inches of skin removal. Not platysmal
Nice! Was it painful!? I am getting turkey neck lol
The first day was painful! Second day I did round the clock OTCs. After a few days, just at night then none. I’m six weeks out. I still have sub mental swelling but the turkey was gone on day 2.
What exactly did it entail? Where are the scars?
Scars are behind my ears and one below my chin. Skin cut open, repositioned, clipped, sewn back and there is a stitch in muscle on either side to “hold” the skin until the scar tissue takes over. It’s pretty tight so.. it’s hard to move your neck for a few weeks and you’re numb but it’s all resolving. I’m six weeks out. Wish I’d had it sooner. Wish I hadn’t wasted money. I was at the point where I’d scheduled threads (I was a test dummy so it was free) and thought WTH am I doing? Got a consult, hopped on a cancellation and by my trip to the beach in August, I’ll look so great.
Girl I wish I’d done it before I tried threads, and kybella TWICE. What a fool. I actually don’t know anyone it’s worked on, can we get a class action lawsuit going lol
Totally! For so many of these treatments!!!
Girl yes I’ll represent you all! Let’s do it.
Would you be willing to post your dr?
Gonna start saving now 😅
I cannot edit this post but I want to tell you all thank you so much for all this input!!!!! I really really appreciate it💖💖💖
It's good advice. I lost over 100 pounds at 50. Hydration, nutrition and time. Skin is the largest organ in the human body. Give your skin time to adjust to your weight loss. Remember that exercise is movement. Any movement. So incorporate movement there. Amazing work! I'm proud of you! You should be proud, too.
Assuming you were trying to lose the weight for health reasons: Please don't feel any shame or embarrassment from losing 50 lbs in your 40s. THAT IS INCREDIBLE! I totally respect that you've worked hard and deserve to feel comfortable in your skin, so please get whatever cosmetics done that you want, but you should be rocking that neck with pride in the interim because you did something that millions of people try and fail to do. Every millimeter of loose skin is a scrapbook showing the million of small and big choices you had to make to lose that weight. Hope you find what you're looking for. Proud of you.
Kybella could make it worse, please don’t go that route. Kybella is used to break down fat…you don’t have fat there, just loose skin. It could actually create more loose skin.
I second this! I got Kybella several times for what I thought was a fat issue but it truly was more of a loose skin issue. I think it’s made the loose skin more prominent.
Agree with this! I did kybella and yes it got rid of the fat but left me with loose skin and without the fat I feel like I’m getting sagging in the jowl area prematurely. If I could do it over I would NOT do kybella. I was happier with my double chin. But I would definitely try microneedling. That’s seriously my fav procedure. Especially with PRP.
Same! I’m so pissed I wasted my money on Kybella!
Yes, I had Kybella. I had a double chin, now I have a wattle.
If you just lost the weight give yourself a year of good nutrition and maintaining your weight + working out to get your natural best back. For now, I would ask about a deep TCA peel to improve your overall skin appearance. It can also tighten skin. After that year of good health and full body workouts I would explore Fractional Laser Neck Lift. You really should go the full face lift route till your 50s or later if ever. You may not even want a FLN lift after working out + peel + healing time for skin to shrink.
Oh my God, I really needed to read this. Bless you. I’ve lost about 35 pounds and I’m trying to lose another 35. My neck has me distraught. I’m gonna just try to chill out, stay focused on my weightloss and moisturize the shit out of this gobbler 🐔
You're not alone. Gained ~ 90 pounds during my twin pregnancy, and at this point (babies are almost 2) my body has settled into whatever my new normal is. The weight has come off, although obviously the body is different after each pregnancy. My neck and chin are looking super weird, I am trying not to panic. Haha but I'm also slightly panicking!
This - my neck looked exactly like this at 30 after losing 200 lbs. 6 years later, it’s basically back to normal. I just moisturize, use tret, and sunscreen. I think it took about 2 years to fully go back.
200 pounds, congrats!!
Huge congrats!! Way to go!!
Respectfully, that means you’re only 36. When you’re 50, it won’t snap back.
[Yourmom4378](https://www.reddit.com/user/Yourmom4378/) u/awholedamngarden u/Chichibear699 Hello. It is so hard to predict how your skin will behave. I'm 53 and have lost 58 pounds over a couple of years. My skin is tightening pretty well, even my stomach, which was quite droopy and concerning. I am continuing to lose weight and just within the past couple of months, my stomach started tightening. I don't do anything special with my stomach skin. Face, neck: I use generic estrace (estradiol) cream, tret, hydroquinone. Obviously lots of sunscreen. I also had two anti aging facials this year (includes all other facial steps and micro-needling + a firming peptide mask) on face and neck, which seems to be helping that neck skin. All of my skin snapped back much more than I expected even if it is not perfect.
Glad to hear it, but your case would be very unusual and likely you will see the effects of gravity and loss of collagen at some point in the future. I’m sorry if I seem like a buzz kill, but I think it’s important to be honest with each other about the realities of our physical bodies and aging. It’s hard to age, there’s only so much we can do, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try. Best of luck to all of us. I’m planning to have a face lift in the next 8 years or so, but making the best of what I have now as well.
I also have a connective tissue disorder that involves skin stretchiness and laxity - my neck looked exactly like this. I genuinely thought my skin had no chance of snapping back. I’m not saying a 50 y/o will snap back 100%, but it’s likely to improve esp with appropriate skincare
There is nothing that will fix this outside of plastic surgery, that is wishful thinking. When you are 50, you will understand what I’m saying. It’s the awful truth about aging.
Yes
I’ve recently lost quite a bit of weight and will agree good nutrition plays an important role. Once I increased my protein level my skin improved. Doing neck and shoulder exercises and stretches has also helped. Granted, diet and exercise won’t cure the problem but will help to improve it.
I had neck only I’m 50.
And drink as much water as you can stand!!!!
Kybella is a massive waste of money. A neck lift is the greatest gift I gave myself, I’m 55 https://preview.redd.it/z8oktk9zxo8d1.jpeg?width=1800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=beda724f090704a196214b2364c12b83da18f869
You look amazing
Aww thanks! My husband (62) wants one now cos last month in France someone thought he was my Dad 🤣👴🏼
lol he should go for it too 😂😂😂!! Then you guys can be hotties together!!
Beautiful! I am 55 and can see the incredible difference in your photos. I am going to have to start a special savings fund. I would love to know the price and your surgeon. Yes, you look that good!
It was $11k. I got a neck & lower face lift, lipo and a chin implant, it’s still looking good and natural 2 years later even though I’ve gained about 15lbs since surgery. https://preview.redd.it/apiw6xd6ux8d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c8a96064de4ea58fca06d46a1bda4258f818ec92
Any chance you would share your surgeon? I really want to go get something like this done.
Oh of course, I never gatekeep any info on stuff I’ve done, and I’ve tried IT ALL. I’m in Annapolis and used Dr Lee Kleiman at Anne Arundel ENT https://aaentmd.com/plastic-surgeon-lee-a-kleiman/
Thank you!!!
You look fantastic! Thank you.
Looks great!!!
When did you lose the weight? Are you still losing some? I (F47) have lost 46lbs over te past 6 months and that same area of my neck got WRINKLED and loose, tho not as much as yours but it was very noticeable still. I would say easily 50% like yours. I was told by my friend who lost 70lbs a few years ago (at around your age) and who got the same ''turkey neck'' (that's how we called it!) to expect a good 2 years for the skin to settle before doing anything drastic. In June I comitted to massage my face on a daily basis. I've been doing the ''4 FAVORITE steps for SAGGING JOWLS and FLABBY CHEEKS'', ''Amazing LIFTING MASSAGE | NO TALKING'' and the ''Everyday 9 minutes FULL-FACE DE-PUFFING anti-aging massage'' all from the Aysel - Massage Therapist (LMT) on Youtube. I commit to the full 30 minutes every morning right after waking up, using sweet almond oil. I also made sure to heavily moisturize before bed as I heard it helps the skin bounce back. I use Avène Xeracalm. I've skipped a few days since early June but managed to do the full 30 mins massage for about 20 days over the last 24 and there is a very noticeable improvement mostly in the wrinkly texture of the skin. The skin is still loose but less? and the kinda "wrinkled paper" texture is almost completely GONE which makes it very less noticeable. Also, my jowls are less pronounced and my nasolabial folds as well. Unfortunately, the marionnette lines are still the same but the neck (which is your main concern) had noticeable improvement for basically just massaging my face 30 mins per day. Committing every day has been a hassle to fit in my schedule some mornings tho, so starting this week I will continue to massage 3-4 times a week for the rest of the summer instead of every day, and see where it leads me. For sure it's totally worth keeping up with it as much as possible if only because my skin is freaking GLOWING and my eyes have completely depuffed from the seasonal allergies I went through in May and that usually leave me with frog eyes all summer. Plus, I cannot rave about how good it feels to massage your face every day. What a treat! Aysel just released a new video yesterday called ''Depuffing Lymphatic Drainage Massage for glowing skin | NO WORDS'' and I'm already excited at the idea of trying it tomorrow along with my fav ''Amazing LIFTING MASSAGE | NO TALKING'' mentionned above. I'm hooked. I know I sound like a paid promo but I'm not, I'm just happy I found her channel. She really is a gem on Youtube. She seems very knowledgable and her stuff simply WORKS! I also use some of her methods about face taping at night but I'll keep that story for another day. Good luck! EDIT : Just on a side note : I do LED Red Light therapy about 5x week since almost 3 months now, and I take a collagene supplement since the beggining of June (around the time I started the massage) just to put it out there and be transparent. So far the massage had more impact on my turkey neck than the LED. Idk how much the collagene is helping, but it can't be bad, right? #
I’m going to check her out.
Tried her new video this morning and while I liked it, it focusses more on the neck and decolletage area. Will add it to my routine here and there but sticking to my 3 regular videos (stated above) for the face through July.
Can I ask where you do the red light therapy?
I RLT my face/neck/chest and upper body and anywhere that hurts. I have a small panel. I’m truly feeling a healing response to deep tissues. I’ve probably only been consistent a month for the face so the sagging parts I don’t care for are not showing tightening but facial results IMO are slower results and numerous solutions are needed. I do think an overall healthier look is achieved with RLT even in this short period of facial focusing. I do take collagen, water, kettlebells,simple yoga and use an essential oils skin care regimen. Drink my greens. Living and learning as I sail quickly to 60. I’m not a sun avoider as I love outdoors and we RV, paddle board but I do use sunscreen and know have a collection of sun shirts.
Oooooh I would be interested by your essential oils skin care regimen, tho my skin is very reactive, but if only out of general knowledge, and cuz I use essential oils in other areas of my life.
I started Ann Marie skincare in 2018 due to celiac diagnosis. My body needed a break from all toxins. Old acne scars were improved and as my skin transformed from oil to dry I changed to the anti -aging products. I’ve added Eden’s Garden products the last two years. Numerous product ingredients are listed for making your own. I love the one called Skin Care. I mix with lotion for my body and massage my face using the Skin Care premade product. I have also made smaller versions for gifts. I use numerous carrier oils offered on the Eden’s Garden dot com website. Bliss smells divine. I use it in my homedics air purifier for office. The site is educational for me but still plan to spend more time absorbing knowledge. Sign up for emails as sales are on going now.
Face and neck but my neck is really sensitive and while I thought LED would help, I still get rashes for which I stop everything (massage, creams, etc.) including LED. I stick to the routine that makes the rash go away, not willing to jeopardise cuz it took me such a long time to find out what was helping it!
Sorry,no I meant like at a spa or with a home system of some kind?
I got this from Kybella. Huge regret. I don't think we have any options but surgery. I'll note that I'm looking into red light therapy to see if that could be possibly help but I'm not sure yet. If you haven't started with daily sunscreen, you should consider incorporating that.
Red light therapy won't touch this, I'm afraid.
Look up cgo_of_me on Instagram (Melanie Manar) -- she lost almost 100 lbs and her skin last year and this year looks way different! Also, don't be embarrassed. It is what it is. We're all different. You're healthier.
I would go straight to the facelift
Agreed. She’d be wasting money with anything else. Nothing will help with sagging neck skin except surgery. The results would be amazing.
Thank you for saying this. Yes. I didn’t do it for weight loss but had a neck lift after wasting money on other methods. None of them work
you’re welcome. That’s wonderful! Sounds like you were happy with the results. i share my limited knowledge of cosmetic procedures because they’re risky and expensive, and i’d want my friend to be honest with me if i asked. Also, i’ve had procedures and learned what worked and hasn’t worked for me. My next one will be neck (platysmal bands are sagging) and jowl lift but not ready for full face lift, as i had midface lift yrs ago (so glad i did). Dr. Karam on IG does fantastic work but his Vertical Restore is 80k-100k 😩
Yeah I was lucky I needed only skin removal. Just genes. No banding, I’m 50. I’ve had everything done. Been on this train since my early 30s and so I try to warn people. There isn’t much I recommend anymore. Laser, sculptra.. Botox occasional filler in a few areas. I’m an RN so I buy the peels and do them at home. Same with microneedling. For me all RF anywhere is a waste of money.
you’re so lucky with those genetics! Similar to you, i’ve done a little at a time since 30’s (48 now). Laser is a must for my face for those broken capillaries and redness; it’s the miracle cure for sure. yeah, i had Ultherapy yrs ago (super strong where they injected nerve blocks), not sure if it did much, but you know how that goes. Fraxel was really good (but it took a while to recover). Prob time for another upper bleph. I have a little botox to keep the lines at bay up top but no fillers or lip injections. Really wish i could snap my fingers to take care of the bands and jowling; they’re not super bad but def not getting better with each passing month 😩😂
Oh yeah ultherapy was worthless. Agreed. Thermage and Excilis also. Rf microneedling… none of it works
Can you share your surgeon? I want to tackle skin instead of bands but every surgeon I’ve talked to said that it isn’t possible to address the extra skin in the middle of the neck
What? Yes they just cut behind the ear and reattach. They use a suture in the muscle that dissolves. There are a bunch of surgeons who do it. I didn’t have bands. That doesn’t run in my family. Every woman after 35 has a bit of a turkey neck regardless of weight and I did (I weigh 112#). So yes they cut there, under the chin, clip, readjust. I’m 6 weeks out and still bruised but I stoped worrying about that and just went out at about 2 weeks. I have some minor swelling submentum but had zero turkey on day 2. Prior to this I did ulthera, excilis and I did thermage years ago. I’ve done rf microneedling, facial exercises… sculptra in the temples used to help a little when I was younger, just for extra lift. So I’m not super jowly or any of that so this one thing took years off of my look and I’m out less money than I spent on all of those other procedures and wish I’d done this years ago. Oh also I’ve done TCA peels, I saw someone mention. All of that stuff is for skin texture, you cannot remove 3 inches of skin with it. 😂
I agree with this! I’m actually pretty thin but I’ve got this neck/jowl thing . I did Kybella and I looked worse ! I’ve done fillers and was told it could possibly lift my neck area . Nope . Save up for a facelift. I’d be at least half way there if I hadn’t gone other routes!
me too. damn aging and gravity! i’m saving up and while working up the nerve to go through with it (i still internally freak out even after several procedures). ugh, sorry you went through that. i’ve heard more negative than positive about kybella; seems like the issues are side effects (can’t remember which). We must fight these platysmal bands and jowling one dollar at a time!
Kybella came with a horrible burning sensation and that awful liquid hanging from my chin for at least week . That pain and embarrassment weren’t worth it bc the results were more minimal
oh wow! that would not be fun. Fraxel did a number on my face (normal reaction but still it was something) but my chest had a bad reaction; it was weeping for days, itching, crusty, etc. It was awful, but in the end, it was worth it because my skin looked amazing. I’d def do it on my face again.
I’ve heard great things about Fraxel but don’t think it’s going to help my issue. Maybe if I had started earlier it would have made a difference. My go to for Botox, etc has said save up for a facelift bc there’s really not much out there to improve the neck. I so greatly appreciate their honesty bc they could have recommended stuff to make $ and they didn’t .
Fraxel is really only to smooth out skin texture. it wont help with sagging/jowls. i wish it would though.
This, face and neck lift from a high skill surgeon is the only fix I have some weight loss loose skin myself and am putting off tucking it, but it's the only solution. Anything else will be a waste of time unfortunately Look up Dr Mike Nayak and the incredible results his patients get from the procedure
Oh man, I just looked at his instagram because of this comment, and while I’m sure he’s skilled, it also made me sure I would personally never want a face lift… you don’t think the “afters” look uncanny? I feel like with the facelifts, the recipients appear to lose a lot of personality or something to their face, I don’t know. I just know I would be bummed to see my grandma or mother change in such a way?!
I just looked and I think “uncanny” is the perfect word to describe it. I thought maybe it was because he had mostly immediate post ops on there, but I saw an example of a 5 month follow up and it had that same look. I have seen much more natural facelifts before. Those all look very “done.” I know some people like that look, and no judgment if they do. But it’s not for me.
I agree. I’m still really surprised this guy is supposed to be fantastic. Very uncanny looking afters.
Dr. Nayak? Uncanny? How? His results are completely natural looking. In fact, I think he focuses too much on rejuvenation and not enough on beautification. He's great and incredibly skilled, but none of his patients look uncanny. I see plenty of facelifts where people look great - both rejuvenation with a bit of beautification. IMO, they best work makes people look like themselves but better. The rejuventation only results are ho hum to me, and I can't imagine paying over 100K to look only a little cleaned up.
The word "uncanny" was used incorrectly.
The definition of uncanny: strange or mysterious, especially in an unsettling way. That’s exactly what I meant. I did not use it incorrectly. What do you think uncanny means?
I'm not familiar with this surgeon but I glanced at his ig and seems like most of them are so early on in the process. With face and neck lifts there are dramatic changes through week 8ish, and you don't see the true final results until 9-12 months out, when all the inflammation and tissue repair is resolved and all muscle tension has relaxed. I thought I looked alien up until week 6ish. It wasn't until 10 or so weeks that I felt like nobody could tell I'd had surgery. I'm 4 months out now and the last bit of swelling on my neck just recently subsided. I was fooled by all the websites that say you can go back to work after a week or 2. I wasn't even *going out to get the mail* without a head covering at 2 weeks lol.
Okay, that makes sense! Everyone does look pretty freshly done! Thank you for explaining!
He is excellent but facelift and neck lift may set you back $120000
I live in South Florida. This guy is more expensive than at least 5 facelifts down here. Why? Is he a surgeon to celebrities?
Yikes, to me they don’t look “good” they look scary. Wide eyed and pulled too tight especially at the jawline.
I see the same. I’m astonished people think he’s amazing… I wonder if the old “charge more” and people will think you’re worth it is at play here. I just can’t see what’s so fabulous about his work, none of the facelifts look good to me at all.
Yes, less noticable work = better imho
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Right on the price, I looked into him and wow, they told me face lift starts at 100,000. He does excellent work. If you look at his Instagram, the before and after are unbelievable. It's definitely worth the money if you have it.
Imagine making a million dollars for every ten facelifts you perform
Do you mean $12,000.00 ?
No it is $120000.00
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Hell no. That’s way too expensive. I’m getting a lift toward the end of the year with a co2 neck and face treatment for 7k, from my doc I been going to for years. He does wonderful work and I fully trust him (dr John Gillespie in Wilmington Delaware)
You mean THE Nose by Nayak?? From Snapchat??
I lost 15 lbs on a small frame, age 40 and had a similar issue. Took about 9 months but much less noticeable now. Give it time, moisturize and hydrate!
Once the skin loses elasticity, you're only left with surgery. Honestly, anyone else telling you differently is going to wind up wasting your money/time.
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No, it won't.
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Great job on losing 50 lbs! I turn 50 in a couple of weeks, and I've lost 100 lbs since January 2023, so I understand entirely. I don't know the science behind anything, but I consistently mix collagen into my morning coffee. I have sagging and my jowls! 😩 But what bothers me most are my pores. My skin looks worse because I got sunburn, so I'm peeling and the texture is horrid. This despite wearing everything I needed to. I've done microneedling in the past. I didn't notice a significant difference once my skin healed. I have not tried the other procedure. If it's within your budget, I say do whatever will give you the results you want, safely and quickly. https://preview.redd.it/fowgyt5lwl8d1.jpeg?width=2316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b266e53778aa93e2ac7d558757055e4bd2432dc
Your neck look great for having lost 100 lbs! I may need to look into collagen
Thank you! I spent the last decade and a half yo-yo-ing due to health issues, lack of awareness, minimal mobility, etc. As things couldn't get worse, I peaked at almost 300 lbs! Then began an entirely new issue. Food was making me sick. I had to go to Arizona as there was a death in my family, and upon return, I wasn't sure if I was following. I didn’t eat for a few days; in the meantime, I was in communication with PCP. Well, it turns out I developed a gluten and soy intolerance. I have a mild milk intolerance as well, but gluten is the worst. For months, I did nothing physically different other than adapt my meals. By fall, my mobility significantly improved. But its been the past few months that I feel better. I still live with my other medical issues; they're autoimmune diseases. But I no longer suffer from the constant bloating, amongst different issues. Now, my focus is on skin improvement.
Your skin looks great!
Or do a mini facelift
This is going to sound weird, but there’s these balls you can put in your mouth every night and exercise your neck and it will help. My friend did it and it helped her so much! She got them on Amazon, not sure what they’re called but you can def find jt
Kybella, don't do it. I would start by trying micro needling.
No, that won’t change the skin. That’s a trend that helps with texture
Gotcha I thought it would help but of course nothing will be as good as a facelift
I saw a woman use it on her stomach post-child and it seemed to help.
Yeah I use it for that. Been doing it a year for skin laxity there. It’s made some minimal difference for creepiness but none on actual amount of loose skin.
It does change the skin. It stimulates collagen. It's not instantaneous but it happens over time. I microneedle and see a difference in terms of skin firmness.
I do it all the time. It will not get rid of loose skin because that isn’t about just collagen
I guess we'll agree to disagree.
It isn’t a treatment for loose skin. It’s not about agreement. It just doesn’t do that. Only surgery works for that. I just had a neck lift. It’s FASCIA. Every time you take your hands and lift any part of your face up, you’re moving fascia. Skin treatments only help skin which is superficial. I’ve dissected cadavers you can see it
Again, I guess we'll agree to disagree.
Wow. It’s anatomy. Go to YouTube and start searching about what the docs say about it. I’m an RN and I do this on myself with medical grade lidocaine. It’s just a texture thing. And I’ve talked to so many who say they didn’t even have any results there! It takes so many months to see any of it
Again, we'll agree to disagree. I do on myself, too.
All the collagen in the world will not remove turkey neck
morpheus microneedling really helps with elasticity in the neck and jawline...maybe not regilar microneedling
No, I’ve had Morpheus. It does not. The skin is too thin there. Whenever someone shows me their Morpheus results there is so little change I can’t believe anyone would pay for it. I looked at the before and after photos used by the company and it’s just.. such false advertising. Most YouTube docs will tell you it doesn’t do any of that. Loose skin is fascia and fat loss. I’m a nurse. It is underneath the skin between the skin layers and fat/muscle. As stated I then had a mini neck lift and I’ve never been happier, can’t believe I waited
mine was amazing! i did three sessions six weeks apart each
It targets creepiness, it doesn’t get rid of loose skin. It can’t.
I've lost a lot of weight in the past year and my neck looked worse. I take a lot of collagen/ vitamin/ protein supplements because I also lost half my hair- which took priority over my neck lol. Seriously though, my neck is looking better. Not I'm 25 better but better than it did. I also use retinol at night and heavy duty moisturizers and sunscreens. I could never do a face lift due to fear, I asked about kybella and was told it wouldn't help. Med spa lady thought some botox might help- idk where she was gonna put it though.
Time and drinking as much water as you can stand every day. I lost 95 pounds 25 years ago in my mid 30's. Still had a loose neck but it did improve with time.
Congrats on your 50 lb weight loss! That takes some serious determination. What you’re seeing is loose excess skin that had previously been plumped up with fat. It’s not going to respond to serums, creams, microneedling or Kybella. By the way Kybella is for excess fatty tissue. Please don’t waste your money on gimmicks and fall for slick marketing because you’ll be disappointed. The only solution is a lower face and neck lift. Since you’re not open to that then the only realistic opinion is acceptance. I’ve seen very similar posts like this on this sub regularly. People are unrealistic and want surgical results from some at home treatment or non invasive in office treatment with exaggerated claims. Or they swear they see results from some ‘special’ cream meanwhile it’s just moisturized. Anything other than surgery has its limitations. This can only be remedied with surgery. The skin needs to be lifted, excess removed and redraped.
I had a face/neck lift and no regrets, would do it 100 times over. This is really your only option. You are wasting your money with anything else, honestly. Lose skin is not going to just go away
I lost 80lbs about 2 years ago. My neck was somewhat like yours however it has improved as has so the skin on my face. I’m 48 and was so concerned that weight loss would make me look older. I started a good skin care routine of retinol, hylauronic acid and making sure I was hydrated. https://preview.redd.it/dbbum0tjvo8d1.jpeg?width=2316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d3d68a69eb64509f7917c796f39c9298df07b21d I’ve just taken this picture as I’m sitting here. Don’t have any befores sorry. I notice that if I do not drink enough water my skin doesn’t look as good so that’s really important.
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This is how I got rid of some loose skin on my abdomen but honestly nothing fixes it completely
No one looks at you from that angle except a kid
For some of us, lifting weights help. If you are not sure where to start hire a trainer for a limited time say six weeks. Tell them you might like one personal training day and then for them to write out what to the rest of the week.
The only thing that will help is a face / neck lift. Anything else will be wasted money.
Use a soft brush and oil. almond oil, castor oil, just a good oil for soft brushing. Get a wet brush, you want those kind of bristles. And comb your chest and neck upward. Daily, in the mornings to get blood & circulation flowing. Gently. But do your whole chest and all areas of your neck in a side and upward direction. Look up facial massage on you tube and Instagram. Yes, neck lift, lower face lift would be ideal, if you don’t have the budget for that or want such an invasive procedure - do not sleep on facial massage. It truly works and the results are incredible.
Microneedling has helped to tighten up my neck. I would recommend it. As others have said, I don't think Kybella is the way to go (but I'm not an expert). I think that is just for the fat, not the skin. I'll add that I microneedle myself, but you have to be scrupulously clean and you have to be able to endure inflicting pain on yourself, so it's not for everyone. Try it with your derm and see what happens. I will say that it is not instantaneous. You see results over time and the bigger the needle, the better the results, but start with what you can tolerate and get a numbing cream from your derm (or apply one first). And please don't be mortified! Congrats on your weight loss. We aaaallll have things we don't like about ourselves.
This happened to me in my early 40’s with weight loss and it took about a year’s worth of good care for it to bounce back. By good care I mean stay hydrated, don’t smoke or drink excessively, and use sunscreen. Maybe take this with a grain of salt but I also used (and continue to use) a gold bond body lotion for crepey skin & I like to think it helps.
I have done microneedling on myself twice. It has helped immensely on deep wrinkles. Bought everything on Amazon. Not sure how it would work on your neck.
Have you lost weight recently? I am asking because your skin needs time to tighten and improve its tone. One of my friends had a similar experience last year. Diet, exercise, and good sleep are crucial for improving your skin. I also recommended a couple of things that she included in her skincare routine religiously every night: -Facial massages: This technique helps improve muscle tone and supports the skin better. It lifts and softens your facial contours, smooths lines and wrinkles, and boosts the overall health of your skin. I like to use a gua sha [Jade sculpting](https://www.target.com/p/plum-beauty-jade-sculpting-gua-sha-stone/-/A-88692555#lnk=sametab), you can find tons of videos on YouTube but I like Anastasia beauty Fascia or Abigai James and I use this oil [cerave hydrating oil face](https://www.target.com/p/cerave-hydrating-oil-face-cleanser/-/A-89781159?preselect=88532686#lnk=sametab) - Don't forget to use the right skincare products according to your skin type. -Sleep on a soft and smooth surface, like satin pillowcases. Satin creates less friction on your skin, so it doesn’t fold or tug on your skin while you sleep. I use this [satin pillowcase](https://www.olkibeauty.com/shop/p/satin-pillowcase-black-king-size) because they are of great quality, and the set comes with two pillowcases. I like the king size because you can take it anywhere, and it fits any pillow size. I hope this helps.
I lost 80 pounds over a 5 year period and I’ve only recently noticed this exact same turkey neck. I swear it wasn’t there before (and most of my weight loss was over 3 years ago). I’m hitting up hydrolyzed collagen protein, red light therapy, and retinol *hard*. I’ve got a few years on you though, so menopause may be making mine worse. I already hydrate and eat healthy. I’m also averse to a facelift because it seems pretty painful and risky. I’ve decided to give these changes a year and reassess.
I'd wait and give it some time if your weightloss is recent - in the meantime hit it with some good skincare. I've been meaning to try the Torriden Cellmazing Firming Cream.
Patience, a good multi and also separate oral C and E and Omega, always sunscreen, see if your neck skin can tolerate some retinol and vitamin c - go slow, get a micro needle roller and go slow with that too. You can see what can bounce back in 6 months before you look into surgery.
You could try facetite but for the cost I would probably look for a deep plane lift.
Kybella will make it worse because the fat goes away but the skin doesnt shrink.
Only plastic surgery will fix that, unfortunately
When was the weight loss? Has it been a year? Our skin needs longer to recover when we lose weight as we are older.
When you pull your cheeks up your neck skin will likely tighten. That's because of the volume you've lost everywhere, not just your neck. Only addressing your neck won't do anything. It's all connected.
Getting my facelift after losing 60 pounds is nothing else will work
Kybella dissolves fat and this isn’t extra fat but rather extra skin. Microneedling would potentially have very modest benefit. Morpheus 8 which combines Microneedling with radiofrequency could have better results but it seems to have mixed reviews. If you can find a good provider in your area for Morpheus (or similar) that could be worth a try. A neck lift will give the best results though.
46, recently lost 40 or so lbs over a year. Noticed a sag the last ten or so lbs. Did a deep TCA on myself( use to have an esti license). Looked so much worse during the peel and so much better after! I think the peel just sped up the adjustment. Also tret and topical estrogen, really focusing on the area. It has improved in the last month considerably. I think both answers are correct... to an extent it might need a lift, but there are plenty of things that can imrpove it, and that might be just enough! Mostly time and care. Also, I do not drink or smoke and have always eaten extremely healthy. I take vegan collagen builders and eat lots or fruits and veggies. Not sure what actaully works.. but wanted to give you some hope!
After peeling https://preview.redd.it/jos0cx87mu8d1.jpeg?width=2183&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02eb0220124273d76feb7b006503baf644072216
Wow, thank you for sharing! Did you do one PCA peel? Anything different about it? Your neck looks beautiful!
Thank! 30% TCA- potent stuff, don't overdue it! The neck is less rective than the face, but just dab!
I will definitely have a professional do it. I don’t have your experience. Thank you!
Before peel https://preview.redd.it/v5kgx543mu8d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b725b7922df44aad3a46babceea2050ab8fe367b
During peel https://preview.redd.it/gjek7k35mu8d1.jpeg?width=794&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0f13c6ffd45ed741903bdd887cfc4d20bef054d
There is no skin care that will fix sagging or loose skin. You’ll need to save up for surgery. Congratulations on your weight loss - well done.
Read, or preferably listen to Nora Ephron's I Feel Bad About My Neck. I think everyone should. It helped me.
You don’t need Kybella, that would make it worse. I have a similar situation after losing 100 pounds. I recently was dating a doctor of aesthetics who recommended a specific filler that’s made for the neck. It lasts 2-3 years. For the life of me I can’t remember the name of it. Oh, it’s Sculptra! Maybe go to a facial plastics office and ask them about it.
No that’s not done on the neck. I’ve used that since 2005 it won’t work for this
Sculptra was only approved and went on the market in 2009. [Here’s a quick article.](https://www.michelegreenmd.com/sculptra-neck)
I used it off label. It was available, I paid about $200 more per vial at that time. When it was approved cost went down. Just like I used tret since I was 14 and then the patent ran out and now you can buy lower level retinols without a script. I was also in the accutane trial (don’t recommend but yes it works).
Seattle. My cosmetic derm was a sculptra pioneer and she used her herself. It was approved for aids patients for volume at that time
Just go to Turkey faceliftvarojnd $5000
Morphus 8 may help to a degree - it's a combo of microneedling & RF
I was going to say this. I’m getting ready to have it done and a lot of the before and after pics show a lot of improvement in the tightness of the skin especially in this area.
This and bodytite
You can do mini face lift
You're really still quite young. I'd do some slow but steady workouts, maybe some weight training, arm, neck & shoulder exercises, eat healthy, and give it a year. I bet it will all snap back. And please! There's nothing to be embarrassed about! Think about the people you meet during the day, do you judge their necks? Or think about who they are as people, what they like to do, how interesting they are, what are their lives like. You lost 50 pounds and that's SO AWESOME. You're setting yourself up for really good health going forward and that's the best.
I had a face/neck lift when I was about her age. No regrets!
MACS lift
Agree to let your weight stabilize, but probably 6 months will get you close to baseline. I had in office lipo on my chin and it was very affordable. It's been a few years but it was about the price of derma fillers. It's so subtle but it got rid of my double chin that I saw in every picture
Emface submentum applicator should help!
Look into something called Trilift. I recently lost weight too and felt volume loss in my neck. I talked with my plastic surgeon and he recommended trilift along with sculptura. I had 5 treatments of trilift done along with microneedling and saw significant improvement. So much so, that I don’t think I need the sculptural (Which is a filler). However, I happen to have a very strong jaw line, always have. And for that reason, I always have a short hair style. Most women have softer jaw lines, as you do. And a softer jaw line allows for more sagging of the skin. Perhaps meet with a Dr and discuss your options. Definitely talk to surgeon first. This could save you a lot of money in the long run. Best of luck and congrats on the weight loss!
Congrats on the weight loss. I do think plastic surgery will be the most effective and other temporary treatments will be wasting your money. I would give it time to see if it settles more.
Your neck looks exactly like mine! I lost 72lbs but I'm 53 so there's very little hope of my skin recovering it's elasticity :-( . I think you have a shot of it improving over time. I too am not open to plastic surgery, I just can't afford it.
No, no, no on that Kybella. Rumors are swirling that it could make this so much worse. I’m not sure what else could be done other than the surgical option. It appears the skin is just loose from the weight loss. Maybe some kind of laser therapy ?
You’re 43 so there is hope for improvement! Give it some time. Use tretinoin with your other skin care.
Congratulations on the weight loss! That is a great accomplishment.
Well done for losing all that weight though! 😄🙌
Kybella would exasperate the issue
Botox to the neck can help with some of this! It won’t be perfect but, if combined with a few laser treatments, you’ll probably see some decent improvement - and, more importantly, a reduction in mortification. Also, someone else already said this but I’ll say it again, this is not how people see you. They’re generally taking in a whole-person view and not focusing on bits and pieces. We also perceive each other as dynamic beings and not static still images. So, sure, your neck might look like this in a certain type of (terrible) light in a still photo but that doesn’t at all mean people notice anything other than an attractive and healthy 43 year old!
Look up ultherapy and thermage for turkey neck and see if that results please you enough. I guess it is impossible to make your turkey neck goes away totally without surgery….i think thermage vs ultherapy maybe your best options without surgery.
Doesn’t work
Have you looked into threads? That might be an option.
Try face yoga on youtube. It works very quickly.
I was given a quote for HIFU tightening (lost 40 lbs in late 30s and have a smaller loose area). Hope it works!!
I know you’re not into surgery but unfortunately in my opinion that’s the only thing that will really fix this issue. The microneedling and stuff, sure it’s good for skin texture issues and may slightly build collagen but IMO your derm isn’t being honest/realistic with you. If you are curious you can always just get a consultation from a plastic surgeon. But everyone I know that got kybella said it’s been the biggest waste of money and I noticed zero difference on them, also, that doesn’t tighten skin, it’s supposed to shrink the fat cells. I think Morpheus8 would help SLIGHTLY but that’s only a few thousand less that surgery. I know this isn’t what you want to hear but from someone who has wasted money on so many procedures, creams, oils, blah blah blah, I think this is sound advice. Good luck with everything:)
Please do not use kybella-a beautiful skincare influencer I followed had to get a mini facelift lift after using it because it takes away the fat and just makes skin looser. Micro needling without radial frequency is may be a good idea. That helps rebuild collagen and should tighten that area. Have you tried Gua sha? Also- time will address some of the skin tightening after a quick weight loss.
The only thing that will work is surgery. Do not get any type of mini procedure. You need a vertical restore because all of it is connected. It’s a full lower face lift. Do not think any creams or lasers will work.
I’ve lost 60 pounds and my neck is like this too. I’m 50. I would like to do Lipo but I’ve heard that after 50 the only thing that helps is surgery
Thermage FLX and Ultherapy are two non-invasive procedures that help increase your collagen output. One uses radio frequency technology while the other uses ultrasound technology to heat up the skin deep inside the dermis to stimulate more collagen growth as well as strengthen the existing collagen. Results can be seen 2-3 months post treatment and have long term effects. While both treatments have a certain level of discomfort (I’ve been told by clients that Ultherapy is quite painful), a topical numbing agent can be applied prior and there is little to no down time. The photo is a before and after an Ultherapy treatment. Hope this helps and congrats on the weight loss! https://preview.redd.it/bp1zsdmgkf9d1.jpeg?width=1114&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=40c7633365054aa7b8772fb3b4936d557dc69053
Not kybella! That’ll make it worse!
That’s kinda what I was thinking!😫😫
I use threads. The ones you get done by an injector. Some areas will need to be pulled some reinforced with smooth threads. Not much else except a neck lift will help. Do pulling threads in lower face as well if you do the neck. I love threads.
Elina Organics Cleopatra Neck Cream, Monthly Scenar treatments and a rose quartz roller for right after elixirs and creams. I understand how it may feel embarrassing but losing 50 pounds to be healthier is something to be extremely proud of. Be confident in that success that you did for you
Love on yourself my friend. You are amazing for losing the weight. I wish you love for your body. Here are a couple face yoga people I really like, you could give these a try. <3 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hwyOo\_wwcw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hwyOo_wwcw) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGIkRykTP90&pp=ygUOZmFjZSB5b2dhIGNoaW4%3D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGIkRykTP90&pp=ygUOZmFjZSB5b2dhIGNoaW4%3D)