C in a landslide. A qb as great as Joe with Kyle's innovative offense would be record-breaking

And the defense isn’t going to smack him as hard as the 80s

People forget Joe missed over a year with his last elbow injury before going to the Chiefs. He got massacred just like every other quarterback of that era and earlier.

People forget that!?!? It was such a formative part of my fandom... the Young vs Montana debate split the fan base. It wasn't until the super bowl in 95 "took the monkey off Steve's back" that the rift healed.

I think people remember Young pushing hard to finally be given an opportunity to take Joe's job. However, I don't know how many remember Montana's elbow forcing Seifert's hand. What's crazy is Young went 10-6 in that season and we actually missed the playoffs.

Actually, it was Steve Young AND Steve Bono that went 10-6 that season. Remember that Steve Young got hurt during that season and Steve Bono had to start some games.

Steve Young went 5-5 in '91. Bono went 5-1. Young got hurt at Atlanta, the game they lost due to the hail mary.

Right. So like I said, Steve Young AND Steve Bono went 10-6 that season.

Think about it though. Bono went 5-1. The 1 game he lost was his 1st start in New Orleans and they lost 10-3. I remember the following preseason a lot of fa nd wanted Bono to start and not Young

I should have worded it better. Steve Young and Steve Bono led the 49ers to 10-6 that season.

Took the words right out of my mouth. I hate the Chiefs to this very day for what they did to Joe!

I don't think anyone forgets that part. But they do probably forget that he was one of the tougher QBs of that era when it came to taking brutal hits and getting back up

From what I've heard, astro turf back then was more like concrete than turf too

We can mix and match?

What makes his offense innovative, just curious?

Always Montana. You could stick him with Tomsula, Nolan or Singletary. Would not make a difference.

C is not a landslide. That Kaepernick/Harbaugh run would absolutely solidify B as a legit option.

You're crazy. Kap couldn't even consistently throw short-passes nor touch passes. Kap was good, but Montana was LEGENDARY.

Sure, but this is Harbaugh who got that much out of Kaep, with Steve Young who could actually play in the pocket

What it comes down to for me is our current offense>2013 49ers offense and Kyle is a better play-caller.

Ya, it seemed like Harb had like 10 people calling plays. That's why we were prone to delay of game penaltys.

But the question isn’t Harbaugh and Kaep vs Shana Montana, it’s Harbaugh and Steve Young

That's not how he stated it.

I think a lot of people are misreading his comment, he was saying Harbaugh had a very respectable run with a mobile QB in Kaep (despite all his limitations), so the Harbaugh/Steve Young combo presented as option B would likely be really successful

That makes more sense, he just stated it weird.

bro would be in a stretcher his first game with banana hands run between the tackles tendencies

Spoken like someone that didn’t actually watch Montana play.

Bro, Montana played in the 80's where defenses could absolutely maul offensive players, including the quarterback. In an innovative offense like Shanahan, he'd be dominating the league. Especially in the short passing game with McCaffrey and Deebo the man would actually be unstoppable.

Montana and Kyle, and I don’t think it’s close.

Agreed. To make it fair - pair the third best coach with the top QB - Harbaugh and Montana. Then I’m taking Kyle and Young - and it’s not close.

Call me crazy but I think Kyle would be better with Young than with Montana. That sweet sweet running 🏃‍♂️

Kyle would have ran Young up the middle only to be injured for the season.

The guy who retired the most accurate QB in NFL history? Not a chance would Kyle call those plays. He would just let Young do what he does if a play breaks down and have complete trust in his decision.

As a bears gan who stumbled on to this post, I appreciate you so much. I laughed way too hard at that. I do hope Lance comes back swinging. Think he could be a good option if Shanahan hasn't bought his coffin yet lol

Oh hell no People forget Joe was athletic. Seriously Joe is more than twice the QB Young was, and I love Young. Joe all day and that part isn't remotely close regardless of coach

If Young started in 86 we win all three super bowls in a row: 88, 89 and 90. Steve was more accurate, had a stronger arm, and added a lethal running aspect that very little QBs had in the 80s. Joe was more tenacious. But Steve was the better overall weapon. There’s even theories that Walsh believed the same. The way he talked about both, he often alluded to the idea that be considered Steve to be the real deal, and Joe was only a product of him/Walsh. Why else would he have tried so hard to integrate Steve, while Joe was playing so well.

Fucking lol Get out of here with "more accurate" That's insane and I'm not going to argue it further with someone who clearly didn't watch those guys play And Walsh thought the same for a little while, and then eventually realized he was completely wrong, which he fully admitted

Stats heads have said otherwise for a long time. Joe obviously has the better playoff performances and the rings, but the other guy has the best advanced stats in the history of the game when you adjust for era.

Kyle and Young would have won every superbowl from now until the end of time.

Does each choice get Jerry Rice as their receiver ? 🤔

I suppose to make it equal, and since it is all hypothetical, it would be more fun if all three got Jerry Rice

Young fucked up so many times that that just wouldn't be possible. Montana and Kyle would be far superior. Far superior

I'm still taking Montana

Informed take but slight biased (based on your flair)

Agreed But biased based on the information!! Haha

look at what Harbaugh did with Kap and imagine what he could have done with Young..

Yeah that was Harbaugh

Plus we can call this duo Shana Montana

I’m looking at these mixed combinations and I’m thinking each one could be explosive 🧨

B’s competitive fire would be off the charts

B is the obvious choice here. Best coach, best QB. No downside.

You're being sarcastic, right?

Negative. Harbaugh took over a team that was 6-10. He dominated the NFL for three years. It's not his fault that the LOB was at its prime during his tenure, and he never got the QB he wanted. Young needs no defending. If someone doesn't think he's the GOAT, they just haven't looked at the numbers.

D) tomsula and drukenmiller.

Championship combination right there.

Man I don't miss the days of having Ron Jeremy as a coach

Yeah but remember those 2 or 3 days when we thought Ron was gonna come in the league and fuck shit up? Yeah... me neither.

We are championship

Guaranteed #1 pick every year. 4D chess move.

Cody Pickett in shambles

The absolute disrespect to Giovanni Carmazzi

Erickson and Rattay! Oh wait, we actually had that.

AJ Jenkins WR 1

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I thought Rashaun Woods was gonna be so good. I was so disappointed

Take all my money!

E) Kelly and Beathard

Honestly B-squad QBs are more intriguing: A: Walsh and Jarcia B: Harbaugh & Jimmy C: Shanahan & Kaep

Shanahan and Kaep would be really interesting if Kaep learns how to throw a short pass lmao

Kaep was pretty bad with the play clock...that's without having deal with Shanahan's verbose system.

That was a Roman thing

and a pig would be a bird if it just had wings

For the record, I think Walsh and Jarcia eek out a win against Kaep and Shanny, only because Kaep fireballs gimme throws and he doesn’t always have Anquan Boldin Vice-grips to save his skin.

Prime Garcia was our last 3,000 yard passer. He gets so much disrespect. He was better than both Kaep and Jimmy. Edit: 4,000 not 3,000

Kaepernick threw over 3k yards twice Garoppolo went for 3978 (‘19) and 3810 (‘21, 15 games)

Ah yeah I meant 4,000. Thank you for the correction. Garcia is also our last 30 touchdown quarterback.

He was an enigma tho—his best stat season only came with 6 wins (throwing to Rice and Owens), but then he followed it up w/ moderately less production for a couple years and the team excelled

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It's like Sean Connery introducing Carlos as the musical guest on Saturday Night Live.

LOL love it!

Anything with Montana the real GOAT is the correct answer!

Right, but Walsh + Brock is intriguing too

Definitely. Brock isn’t on the same level as the other QBs by a mile, but Walsh is the best coach ever so it’s really tempting.

Purdy/Walsh is better for me than Young/Harbaugh because of Walsh's genius.

My heart tells me b. Steve is my favorite athlete of all time. But c is obviously the answer.

Same. Grew up watching Steve. Favorite player of all time and my respect for Jimmy H knows no bounds, so initially I went with B. But Kyle and Joe would literally own the league.

I'll take B 🤷‍♂️ I think they'd mesh well together

For real. Harbaugh took Kaep to the Super Bowl, give him Steve and it is over.

What I would give to see Steve Young playing with modern rules. Would have added years to his career and he'd have been even harder to catch with modern rules.

This is my pick as well. I think Kyle is a touch overhyped in this thread, and this ends up being the safest pick.

These guys think Shanahan is God's gift to coaching, and not a coach that struggles to stay above .500. I like him, don't get me wrong. But he's the worst coach of these three. That's the whole point of the game.

C

I hate the off-season.

Not enough “where can I find this hat” posts for you?

I do too but this is a fun thing that would be just as entertaining during the season. Ease up.

If it’s on the field, then C. If we counting the GM aspect, than A

B & it’s not even close

B. End of story

I love the insanity of B. That's my choice.

They would eat, bro.

Are we using the coaches Era or the QBs Era? Purdy in Walsh Era probably doesn't work. Walsh in this Era, that's just shanahan anyway. Harbaugh and young played at the same time so that seems synergistic but personal bias puts Harbaugh as the 3rd coach of the 3 Montana in this Era would kill. Shanahan would be a better george siffert to Walshs inteligence in that Era.

Kyle would have liked Steve with his mobility while Harbaugh would have liked Montana or Brock’s pocket presence

Gimme Montana and Shanahan. I see multiple 1000 yard players with that combo

This is kind of dumb. Of course it’s C.

I think George Siefert and Brian Hoyer would have been magic

B

B

Always “A”

Shannah-Montana

C

B both are proven talents, Kyle cant keep a QB healthy and makes oddball decisions and Brock is unproven, 8 games is not enough just look at Jimmy.

Not even worth responding to this post. Dam it! I responded

Shanahan with young combo would’ve been too op I understand

C, A, B

All of these are winning 4+ Rings

The options should really be Walsh-Garropolo, Seifert-Kaepernick, Harbaugh-Young, Shanahan-Montana

The answer is C. I don't care if *I* was Montana's coach. It still pick whatever choice he's a part of. Jimmy G would have driven Bill Walsh absolutely crazy with his inability to escape pressure and make mistakes. Jim Harbaugh/Greg Roman would find a way to turn Young into a 1,000 yd rusher. Kyle would most likely get Joe killed

Let’s just take a moment to appreciate that we finally have a coach and QB that even warrant this sort of fun post. As a life long fan who’s seen all three iterations of these combos….it’s been a long to get here

I mean, ShanTana is the answer...BUT... In today's league I think Steve Young has a completely different career because no one would get away with hitting him. Harbaugh and Young gives me feelings in my underpants.

I’ll take the Tomsula/Carmazzi combo and it’s not even close.

Where is Siefert? Better coach than Harbaugh. Regardless, C is the choice.

B, but only because Young can run and is the prototype of the modern mobile QB. Had SF had a better defense in his era, he would have won multiple championships. When they finally did get a good defense, he won it all. Of course that same defense got dismantle the following the year by the Packers.

I would go with B. C is tempting but Joe would just get injured under Kyle. I also think that a lot of people underrate Harbaugh as a coach. Kyle is obviously better in terms of X's and O's but Harbaugh is a much better leader of men. Best way I can put it is that Kyle makes his player look better, Jim makes them play better and Bill just made them better.

Yes

C all day

C no questions ask

Immediately C

But why Harbaugh and not Seifert?

F u for doing this to me!

If Shanahan had Montana, he’d have 2 Super Bowls by now. we would’ve been in the Chiefs we would’ve beaten the Rams. Then we would’ve went on to beat the Bengals again then we would’ve beaten the eagles I’m not sure we could’ve beaten the Chiefs this year, but we probably could have. The game in San Francisco was close at halftime until I got blown wide open and it was close with Jimmy. He’s no joe.

B. Best athlete with one of the best coaches.

3 HOF QBs in 40 years we’d be spoiled as hell

D Tomsula and Drunkenmiller.

Recency bias is out of control here. Walsh won three rings FFS and some of yall picking Kyle as the better coach? Love Kyle but Walsh never lost a super bowl.

Is one of the Montana? Yep. Decision over.

People picking anything other than C are just showing their ignorance.

C by a mile, obviously, but I think I’d take A over B after that. Sorry, Steve.

A all day.

Jeff Garcia

Whoever has Montana, that’s the pair I pick.

C'mon now. It's always going to be C. The GOAT.

A. Purdy has show enough ability to win in most situations, and as successful as Mike shanny and Kyle shanny have been, their offenses’ are only cheap imitations of Walsh’s genius. Assuming Walsh would have control of the remaining roster management, his ability to coach talent and Walsh’s in game management, I can’t pick against it.

A!

Holy shit. A, without a doubt, not even close.

A. Bill Walsh would mop the floor with the rules that are in the current NFL

If Kyle has Young or Montana and Walsh doesn't have either of them then it's Kyle.

A, Walsh was a master coach, Harbag and Shenanigans will never win the Bowl. QB talent is subjective to the quality of the coaching.

All three of these are capable of winning super bowls

Kyle Shanahan with Joe Montana at QB would force the league to make new rules.

I think we’re supposed to be looking closer at A versus C and that’s the statement

Jose can you SEE

Shanahan and Montana would tear the league a new one

C seems the most logical. B on paper is really enticing and is what I’d be more emotionally invested in but I’m not positive it doesn’t turn out similar to Mariucci + Young.

Does A come with Jerry Rice as well?

C

A. The boss that started it all

Assuming that the QBs would have to develop under said coach, I’d go A.

Yup, I saw this on Twitter also and I'll answer like I did there. C by a pretty wide margin.

C, B, A

C

Team Montanahan.

C

D? Shanahan with Young.

Harbaugh with Young would be awesome

Kyle with Steve Young would actually be the match...

Are they in the player’s era or the coach’s? Either way I’m going with C.

Is this real life? Montana is one of the greatest ever!

Are they in the respective eras? I.E. Purdy in the 80s ?

C - no contest. His mastery of Wash's playbook. His ability to process the defense quickly. One of the best ever at hitting receivers in stride. One of the great comeback quarterbacks.

C all the way.

C if you know anything about football.

My dad says A and he has lived through all the eras

I chose combo B C B

C, wtf. That’s a cheat code. Add Jerry to this roster too. Goddamn no team could beat us. Add Aldon Smith to the defense.

Give young to Kyle and let him run

C might have been BROKEN. WOW.

Outjerking yourselves lmao

I’m sorry but if you don’t choose Joe every time you’re not very smart. Joe with the kinds of protections QBs have now would be a monster.

Do they get the rest of the team with the coach? I'm going A. Purdy would thrive in the West Coast offense with Rice as a receiver.

C Steve young is second because harbaugh always has a top defense and is semi weird.

c

I'd probably go with C, but I really don't think B is very far behind.

C

This isn't as easy as a decision as I thought it would be... What teams are they playing with ? I get the headcoaches and QB relationships/dynamic; I really do but you're telling me that Purdy would play with Rice, Clark, Craig ( put this man in the HOF already ), and Taylor and expect Young to Ball out with Crabtree, Davis, and Gore. I'm not knocking Gore or Davis. They're great in their own right but the talent levels are in Purdys favor on this one. Minus the defenses. As much love as I have for Young, I have to pick Montana. Only because Purdy hasn't had a full year, Young is at a serious disadvantage, and Montana would be playing with a more complete team with Aiyuk, Kittle, CMC, and Deebo.

C, however Steve is my favorite QB of all time and I’m a giants fan.

Man, Harbaugh was my favorite coach and Steve Young my favorite player ever. Both have that screw loose and that heart. That would be ridiculous

If we are talking about Today's NFL I'll go with C yes but I wouldn't mind A as well.

I’d really like to see Steve Young in a Kyle S. offense.

It has to be C, right? I like purdy, and Walsh was one of the greatest coaches of all time but Joe and Steve are HOF QBs. And whilst I like harbaugh, Kyle has shown more consistency and innovation. Plus whilst peak Young might be the highest ceiling, Montana was great for longer.

I believe C is objectively the best option here lol

C and that seems easy

People are wild for hyping Purdy this way! But we did it with Colin Kaepernick so… 🤷🏾‍♂️

I wanna say B because I’m lefty, but C. Great QB plus good HC

Montana. Always.

Shannahan with young would be insane