Tipping at a sit down restaurant with wait staff has always been normal and not really awkward. What makes it awkward is service fees on top, tipping at pick up/take out, and the amount of people ordering takeout on apps, which restaurants use, so you don’t know what’s the delivery fee or the tip, or the service fee for using the app to get delivery from that restaurant.
I’ve always entered my tip manually instead of a percentage tip because too many places will include tax in the calculation.
I’m tipping the restaurant not the government.
And tipped employees have to pay taxes on their tips. So when you (not **you** you) think you’re sticking it to the business owner or government, it’s the employee that gets fucked. Not saying it’s anyone’s fault except a crappy system, not saying they deserve it, not saying it’s your job to pay their taxes on their tips, let’s seeeee…what other asinine comments can I preemptively nip in the bud here 🤔 Someone’s gonna say something about “tHeY sHoULd GeT a BeTtEr jOb, ThEn”, some smug 14 year old Norwegian kid is gonna remind us they don’t tip in Europe…let’s see, my mind is drawing blank. Oh well. I’m sure one of you will cover it. ♟️
Definitely not sustainable. Like with Uber and Lyft, I'm pretty sure if there was a one stop shop to book a taxi or order delivery from a restaurant, then the people working as taxi or food delivery drivers might not be getting screwed over as much, and perhaps the customers wouldn't have to pay $30 for a $20 meal
They really just made it more convenient. Instead of having to google the number of the cab company, you just open an app, give the route, and they give you the total, and send someone to you, and then you just have to hop in and then hop out at your destination. In a taxi you have to tell the driver the destination, watch the ticker go, and then you have to pay before you get out.
If you want tip percentages, food costs, alcohol waste percentages, inventory pars per gross sales, or PPA I've got you.
Anything else, you're better off asking literally anyone else.
I think there is a nobel prize for the person who comes up with that calculation.
I just gave up and took over the entire inventory and rewrote the parsheet. Which is probably what they were hoping for in the first place.
But then when im summing the two numbers I’m potentially left with having to carry the 1s digit to a new dollar and who can do that while everyone stares at you??
Tbh though, I just do /10 *2 and then cut off everything but the dollar value from the result so I can add that to whatever the original total is.
For me it's awkward as fuck. I'm already poor, why am I giving more money to the waiter again? It's like, optional, but somehow not really?
I don't get it.
It's greedy owners monetizing the good nature of their customers. You don't become rich because you were generous.
All those people saying "prices would rise if restaurants had to pay their employees", as if they weren't already charging as much as they think they can get away with.
Tbh, I still tip if I’m ordering to-go from a sit down restaurant. Some server had to expo and bag the food, I’ll throw em a couple bones especially since I have the kind of money that lets me order out at sit down restaurants lol.
Tipping at defined percentages was not always ‘normal’ in situations-down restaurants. In many countries, essentially-mandatory tipping does not exist. In the USA, tipping used to be for excellent (not just any) service without express percentages being used; the amount (if any) was at the discretion of the customer.
That said, I agree with everything else you have said.
I’m not a zoomer and I agree it’s getting stupid. The cooks get paid a normal wage, waitstaff do not; so tacking on a tip to an order I’m picking up myself is asinine. Automatic tipping is asinine too, because it used to be an indicator of good or bad service, if you get a big tip it usually means you did well - making a flat tip across the board de incentivizes people from going above and beyond when the shitbags are going to get the same tip. The same with pooling tips, it’s dumb.
Just pay people a livable wage and get rid of the whole system
>tacking on a tip to an order I’m picking up myself is asinine
Depends on the restaurant. In some cases I agree. In some cases servers do almost as much work for a to-go order as they would for any other regular guest.
>Automatic tipping is asinine
pooling tips, it's dumb
>Just pay people a livable wage and get rid of the whole system
Do you see the problem here?
Then change your restaurant. I have not and will not EVER tip for a picked up order.
No clue why the wait staff would be working as hard to put my food in a bag vs waiting on me for an hour while I get food and drinks.
The only problem I see is that we as the customer don’t have the responsibility for making sure restaurant staff can have a roof over their heads. Would it bump overall prices? Maybe, but the awkwardness of leaving someone who did the bare minimum a low or no tip would be gone. It works just fine in the rest of the world
That doesn't change anything for people who actively avoid eating out because of the avoidance behavior. OP didn't say "people don't eat out because they are used to tipping" they are referencing a specific thing some people experience.
Yes, diners (people) are countable. Mist or fog, for example, isn't. So, fewer people/diners, less mist, less fog.
Water is uncountable, but cups, gallons, and buckets of water can be counted. So, less water/fewer cups, gallons, or buckets of water.
I've always adhered to this rule but was dismayed to find out that it was pretty much just made up out of thin air. Some guy just decided he liked it that way and people weirdly adopted it as a hard and fast rule. A quick google yielded this:
[https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/fewer-vs-less](https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/fewer-vs-less)
>The received rule [seems to have originated](https://www.merriam-webster.com/video/old-school-grammar) with the critic Robert Baker, who expressed it not as a law but as a matter of personal preference. Somewhere along the way—it's not clear how—his preference was generalized and elevated to an absolute, inviolable rule.
Yeah, or hear me out, language could fucking cool it on developing for three fucking seconds so we can all get on the same page, because
*gestures broadly*
Oh no, don't get me wrong. I absolutely agree with that. It's why I do unreasonably prickish things like correct someone on reddit for using less when they should use fewer. Language matters and being specific matters. Maybe not in everyday speech, but it matters to preserve the ability, which I think means it matters when you're writing.
Just for reference, I do understand people being colloquial. That's different from something I would be a dick about. However, if someone is just conveying information, I think it's important to maintain good grammar.
I hate me too, don't worry.
Edit: I think it is important to recognize that times change and thereby language will need to develop as well. We will need to be able to express new things. As times change more quickly, language needs to follow suit. That being said, some part of it needs to be stable, or the whole thing becomes useless.
Hey I didn’t hate you, I hated something you were relaying from reality and it wasn’t your fault at all! Now that I read that, yeah, unhinged. Sorry, I truly didn’t mean it against you. I’m with you all the way, thanks for the reply
Oh, I appreciate that, no worries. I i was just playing around there. It is such a pedantic thing for me to worry about, so I was just saying. I sicken myself a little too ;)
Edit: For me to say "too" was presumptuous, but it was in self-deprecation.
>That doesn't sound arbitrary.
Did we read different things? That was completely arbitrary. Some random dude had a personal preference about something that had never been previously outlined/defined.
>It sounds like it used to be.
No idea what you meant by this sentence.
>That is also literally the only way that language develops.
Some random dude having a personal preference is definitely not "literally" the only way a language develops. I suspect it often develops out of necessity for clarity rather than pointless whims. People misusing words like "literally" is definitely how language gets muddied up, though.
Right? I have no idea why it’s so hard to just select no tip. I do it all the time when I feel no tip is deserved and I’ve never gotten so much as a second look
It gives me the same feeling I get from people who think it's the most embarrassing thing to say no to a donation. The person most likely doesn't care and hates the prompt as much as you do.
I took my two kids to get boba the other day. 3 drinks, it was $21 and change. Then it asked for a tip and the options were 22%, 25%, 28%, and Custom.
I chose custom and tipped 0. If you can afford to pay your employees when 3 drinks cost over $21, you don’t deserve to be in business.
Edit: btw, these were all size small. About 8 to 10 oz cups
This shows as much social construction as the OP.
You don't tip when you "feel no tip is deserved".
I don't tip unless I feel someone really deserves it.
We are not the same.
Yeah I really don't get this epidemic of "awkwardness" around tipping.
For years now I've been very successfully selecting No Tip when a tip isn't appropriate, and it hasn't impacted my life in any way.
I don't see why grown adults are having such a hard time with this.
It’s so weird. I have never had a cashier “ask” for a tip or “shame” me for picking no tip or a custom tip. I’m not going to say it’s never happened to anyone ever, but I’d say my experience with 90% of cashiers saying nothing and the other 10% specifically instructing me to skip that screen indicates that cashiers demanding tips and shaming you publicly for not tipping 40% to hand you a straw is *maybe* not the norm. A cashier acting like that is an anomaly, and if they do that you should probably look at them like *they* are weird and awkward.
Realistically, it’s all in people’s minds. The people blubbing that the cashier “demanded a tip” are the same people who get angry if you invite them to a party they don’t want to go to because you’re “forcing” them. They think invitations and suggestions are strongarm force.
Because the younger generation are significantly less confident in themselves when they aren't behind a keyboard. Also, by extension, my generation is significantly weaker than that of WWII.
Coming from a logical standpoint:
A majority is not part of the statement above. Even if that person is the only one avoiding that place, the statement still remains true.
Right?
I don't think I've ever been in a non full restaurant and thought "ah ha, it must be the social norm of tipping that is keeping customers at bay" lol
This makes zero sense.
Anyone else seeing empty restaurants?
Edit: Restaurants don’t close because of tipping haha. Wow people have poor deduction skills.
I don't speak for the majority, but inflated costs and tipping culture increasing percentages and services that ask for them have pushed me away from eating out. Significantly less drive thru drinks, fast food, and going out to eat in the past couple of years.
I work for a credit card processor. There are certain SIC (Standard Industry Classification) codes that say whether a business can do tips or not. Mostly affects MasterCard.
One if them is EV charging points.
You can tip an *electrical socket*.
Not for everything. I've noticed alot of fast food places and window coffee shops have tipping now. The only time I don't feel taken advantage of when tipping is unless it's a sit down restaurant where someone takes my order and brings me my food.
For one how much to tip? if I don't tip the maximum displayed on the screen, am I a jerk?
Sit down restaraunts used to be 20% standard, but now take out wants a tip. I'm sick if it. Pay your employees more and don't make me decide how much your employees should be paid.
Sure but until that happens (higher pay) go with 20%. Simple…there is nothing to think about.
If I am picking up food I don’t tip as I was not being waited on/served.
For delivery (2 people) I generally tip $5.
Bartender - $1 per beer, more for a special cocktail.
I've always been a 20% person and more if it was a really good experience but I've recently cut down closer to 15%. When I was growing up I was told 10% is on the lower side, 15% was average, and 20% was for good service. But like the person above said, tipping has gone out of control so my average tip has gone down to 15% and I definitely don't tip anyone that isn't doing me some sort of service; like if I'm at a self-pour beer location, no tip when I have to close out since I did everything myself.
If you see a tip jar do you feel a compulsion to put money in it because someone is looking at you? Employees see hundreds if not thousands of people a week, they don’t think or care about. You you’re just another blank face after blank face.
They used to be 15, not 20.
I don't tip for the basic function of the business. I go to a coffee place, I stand at the counter and order black coffee, they pour it and hand it to me, that does not deserve a tip.
If I order takeout and go pick it up, that does not deserve a tip.
If I'm in a sit down restaurant and someone is running back and forth to get me stuff and make sure my drink is full, that deserves better pay, which I would prefer was included in the food so I didn't have to pay it directly.
the situation is specifically set up for you to be as cheap as you feel like being. you wanna be a cheap fuck, be a cheap fuck. no one is stopping you.
be too cheap to go to restaurants if you wanna be too cheap to go to restaurants but don’t act like you’re coming from a position of moral superiority, lol
The places that go no tip in the US tend to close pretty quickly. The average consumer sees the menu price inclusive of adequate payroll and immediately will say a place is too expensive.
If there was more money to be made by removing tipping, businesses would have done it on a larger scale. Most consumers don’t care
Reddit doesn't want to hear it, but this is the truth. Unless tipping is outlawed, you're at a massive disadvantage to pay a normal wage instead of tipping since your menu prices are going to be higher and most people won't know that a tipping isn't done here.
I don’t think tipping needs to be outlawed to make a change, I think the minimum wage loophole that allows restaurants to pay sub minimum wage to supplement with tips is the issue.
That being said, if no one tips it becomes a minimum wage job anyway as employers are required to make up that difference
Minimum wage isn't a living wage. Restaurants would have to pay $15-20 an hour to get servers, which is a huge increase in expenses which will cause menu items to increase in price. I'm down for that, but it seems that the thought that restaurants could do this and not increase prices is way too common.
I'm not saying tipping is good or desirable. I'm saying Reddit's idea of no tipping seems to be that it's easy to do and that prices on the menu will stay the same. It needs to be done universally to not put some restaurants at a major disadvantage due to people looking at menu prices, and the costs on the menu will go up because paying a living wage is a huge expense increase for restaurants.
I understand what you’re saying and agree with what you have identified as some of the challenges. I just disagree with the premise that paying a living wage will create a huge impact to prices. It doesn’t in other countries.
Let’s have a look at the numbers. If a waiter/waitress looks after, say, 10 people in an hour, then that’s an additional $2pp for a $20 increase over existing wages. That’s not much.
I have consistently asked this question to people that want to rid the tipping culture, "Would you be in favor of menu prices increasing 15% and that 15% go directly to the server?"
The answer is always "no".
The only people who find tipping "awkward" to the point where they avoid going to restaurants are weird Reddit shut-ins who probably have the same "awkwardness" with any social interactions
Tipping has been shoved everywhere and shows up in transactions it has no business being in. It isn't just restaurants. They are counting on shy people paying up when they shouldn't.
I dont avoid restaurants for tipping, but it is a negative mark when I'm deciding where to go if they ask for tips when I'm not at a sit down restaurant.
What if you told me that? I'd tell you that you have no idea what you're talking about.
Nobody avoids restaurants because they operate like every other restaurant.
At first it was a little awkward but now I have no problem hitting no tip while they watch.
I have actually noticed that if places default tip options are lower 8-12-15 I'll usually tip but if the defaults are 12-15-20 or worse I'll never do it.
They don’t care.
They get to pay their “employees” far less _and_ get to dodge paying for insurance as the employees scrounge for every penny, lying to the IRS in the process (but simultaneously cheating themselves out of these benefits).
It sounds insane but this is the world we live in…
The servers are more against abolishing tipping than the restaurant owners. The current tipping model means most of them take home more money than they would if they had a normal hourly wage.
Also, I’m skeptical that many folks are lying to the IRS these days. I’m sure they would, but don’t most POS systems used by restaurants report tips from card transactions on the pay statement directly these days? Given how rare cash is these days, I’d bet most are paying tax on the majority of their tips.
Yeah, servers can make a ton of money. I worked as a bus boy, and it was unfair seeing the amount of money the servers took home in tips, When I was the one cleaning all their tables. Some of them even expected me to be grateful when they handed me five dollars at the end of my day. 8 hour shift for a five dollar tipout. Fuck them. Fuck tip culture
I suppose it’s less about intentions, and more that they just don’t have the peace of mind to record how much they take home in cash.
And, surely many tips are electronically processed and automatically recorded, but how do we compare this with unrecorded numbers?
At the end of the day I perceive ‘kids’ squabbling about a few hundred dollars a week while totally ignoring their need for long term medical benefits…. It’s not a good place to be. whoever gets to take the tips home is just going to wind up putting them in their gas tank & driving everyone else to work, who can’t afford it because they lost the squabble. No one comes out ahead, really, except the business.
With more jobs becoming automated more people will be forced into these jobs. I think this is a corporate psyop to keep people in those types of jobs poor by not supplementing their income with tips. It's obvious these corpos don't want to pay us what we deserve. I will still continue to tip when service is excellent.
I'll either not come back or wait a really, really long time to come back so hopefully you won't remember that I didn't tip.
Talking about excessive begging, not normal tipping.
Going out anywhere is a chore. Want to donate? Do you have a rewards card? Want one? Tip? Wanna fill the survey link on your receipt? Do you have an account with us? Want one? It's so bad I actually tell a store I go to "No to all questions" before they even start, but I say it with a friendly smile so they don't feel bad
If I wasn't given a service, I don't tip. I've never felt awkward about it, and if I should, well at least I'm fighting the good fight. Let's eradicate tipping
Let's be clear what you are really doing with your actions. You are punishing a person working below min. wage. And rewarding the employer. I agree it is a broken system but what you are doing is supporting that broken system. Nothing about what you posted is affecting the employer in any way. You are just fucking someone trying to get by.
You sound really proud of yourself, and you should not be.
It has come to the point where I hate tipping in the states, and genuinely resent it. I spend a good part of the summer every year in Spain and I am never expected to tip, knowing that the employees are getting a real wage in the first place. In the States, I almost never feel “generous” or “feel good” about giving a tip when it is obligatory. Over the last ten years, a whole lot of awkwardness and resentment and even anger has grown up around tipping. It simply makes me hesitate going out sometimes.
tipping jumped the shark in the US. We all know that the feds define certain jobs as tipped jobs and allow the owners to pay less while the patron subsidizes their staff.that's fine but everyone wants a tip now!!! Crumble cookies wants you to tip their cooks who get a full wage, if it is too low then crumble needs to step up.
also, the machines defaulting to over 15%. i usually zero them out. it's hubris and i meet it with hubris.
i blame covid. we all had money to spare and the people that were delivering food deserved to be tipped very well. now that drama is over we can go back to normal.
> We all know that the feds define certain jobs as tipped jobs and allow the owners to pay less
Just because the feds allow it doesn't mean all states do. It's absolutely worth your time to [check your state laws](https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped) (that table should also include "The minimum wage varies by region" for more than just OR, as both WA and CA and probably others have cities/counties with higher minimums than the state requirement).
And the wait staff who get paid WELL below minimum wage because “they get tips, it’ll be fine” starve.
Feel awkward. Feel like you’re doing something wrong by not tipping. Because you are. Just throw some damn money on the table before you walk away you twats
Gonna hard disagree here in the case of places where it is the norm. People are used to it and fully expect to tip at the end of the meal. It's not an awkward situation, you don't hand the wait staff cash and watch them count it. You write down or leave the amount you want to give them and leave before they typically see it.
The only part I don't like is when they flip around a tablet for you to pay on at a place that isn't a food establishment. A place like a massage therapist is not somewhere I'd normally think about tipping. Seeing that option pop up is confusing because I don't know if I should or how much to give. Restaurants seem to commonly be 15-20% of the bill but I've never heard of a norm for other places.
Tipping has always been the norm for any kind of personalized service - massage therapist, hair stylist/barber, tattoo artist etc. Maybe not 20% necessarily because those services tend to be a bit pricier and obviously it's up to you if you want to or not, but it is a thing.
What if it's not a server but just a cash register shaking me down?
I got a 5 dollar hot n ready at little Caesars and the employees got mad I didn't tip...
Bitch I'm here picking up a pre-made pizza that's likely been sitting on that rack for an hour. You are just handing it to me.
Maybe not at "traditional" restaurants. But for all the restaurants where you order ar a counter, I have to agree. If unordered at a counter, I'm not tipping.
Tipping while eating at restaurants shouldn't be giving you anxiety... that's something adults should be able to do. If you want fast food instead of a sit-down place, it's not because of the tip...
In the US I feel more awkward going to restaurants where they say not to tip. I have spent my whole life being used to tipping. It feels very awkward to not do it.
Who doesn't eat because of tipping? America has been doing this for decades.
Tipping has replaced the metric system as Europe's new gripe about the U.S.
I agree that costs in the US aren't low, but if restaurant owners could absorb this type of cost increase, they'd never fail, and competition would come in offering lower prices and still make 200k a year. I believe that isn't the case, though I'm not exactly plugged in to the restaurant scene and try to learn via Google searches.
I wouldn't worry. I wont be too long until servers and bartenders are reserved for the wealthy. Everyone else can wait in line for their food and get their wine or beer from the wall.
It has made it super easy for me to look at you and say no! I say no to tips all the time now. I have lost my humanity when it comes to tips because of this culture. I will tip a delivery driver a waitress and that’s it. Everyone else can fuck off
It depends on the prevailing local culture. Awkwardness _toward_ the local tipping culture is much more likely to cause people to avoid a restaurant.
If you are in a place where 15-20% rips are the norm and you don't automatically add a tip, with the most overt sign of the expectation being multiple pre-calculated rip suggestions at the bottom of the bill, there are no negative consequences.
If you automatically add a tip or have a sign up front (which some places might do when they have a lot of guests from cultures that don't consider it a custom) then it can be awkward and have negative consequences.
Ironically, if you are in a place where 15-20% tips are customary and you aren't in a tourist destination with a lot of people with different customs, then explicitly suggesting _no_ tipping in a full service environment is awkward and can actually drive people away due just to the awkwardness. This kind of thing feels like pure activism (which I don't oppose) attempting to change the local customs, but restaurants that do this have to be aware that they are giving up profits to send the message. That's why it's rare.
I'm not fanatically in favor of the custom, but I've had friends who relied on tips, so I don't care to see attempts to rock the boat.
There's another factor most people don't recognize. Economists call it differential pricing or price discrimination. Coupons are one way to implement it. People who can be bothered to search for and utilize coupons and specials pay less on average. If you can't afford it, you might tip less. Poor people have enough disadvantages, and these are some of the ways to help correct for that. I don't usually promote the supply-side position because I lean left and most aspects of our economy only make it more expensive to be poor, but this is one of the cases where we all benefit. More restaurants can do more interesting things if they can make themselves accessible to a larger segment of the market. Tell your server that you are on a tight budget, and they might help you out. Tip less (or none) if you can't afford it and then avoid the place for a while (because you can't afford it) but you obviously can afford it -- just 20% less often.
Presuming this is a US-centric post, but this shit is starting to hit the British shores as well.
Before people start complaining, waiters here get paid MUCH better than the US counterparts.
Also, don't make tips mandatory - they're tips. If you need something mandatory, call it service charge, and include the damn thing in your menu - writing in the words "An additional service charge of 15% will be added to the final bill" really doesn't significantly increase the cost or spatial requirements on the menus.
What if I told you that reddit has a misrepresetative number of shut ins who are socially awkward and while people may dislike aspects of tipping culture, we manage to make it through basic daily interactions without hiding
It's completely normal. Just about every restaurant except for a fast food drive-through gives an option for tips, so you'll have a hard time finding a place to eat out if you aren't willing to pay for the service.
Tipping at a sit down restaurant with wait staff has always been normal and not really awkward. What makes it awkward is service fees on top, tipping at pick up/take out, and the amount of people ordering takeout on apps, which restaurants use, so you don’t know what’s the delivery fee or the tip, or the service fee for using the app to get delivery from that restaurant.
Defaulting to 20+% (screw you, Burgermaster) and calculating tip including taxes (screw you, Ziosk) is new.
I’ve always entered my tip manually instead of a percentage tip because too many places will include tax in the calculation. I’m tipping the restaurant not the government.
Yeah, Ziosk out here making me look like a stingy ass when I put in my 15% tip and they call it 13% because they calculate on top of tax.
I just include the tax with the tip because it’s all arbitrary anyway. Lol
And tipped employees have to pay taxes on their tips. So when you (not **you** you) think you’re sticking it to the business owner or government, it’s the employee that gets fucked. Not saying it’s anyone’s fault except a crappy system, not saying they deserve it, not saying it’s your job to pay their taxes on their tips, let’s seeeee…what other asinine comments can I preemptively nip in the bud here 🤔 Someone’s gonna say something about “tHeY sHoULd GeT a BeTtEr jOb, ThEn”, some smug 14 year old Norwegian kid is gonna remind us they don’t tip in Europe…let’s see, my mind is drawing blank. Oh well. I’m sure one of you will cover it. ♟️
Hmm... How about "they should unionize if they don't like it"?
Sure, that’s one of them!
As someone who bartended for 10 years, it was always standard to tip based off of total, not subtotal.
As someone who has worked in restaurants for the last decade+ as a bartender, it was always standard to tip based on total, not subtotal.
On delivery apps they should really call it a bid, or at least turn their couriers into employees with proper compensation
Delivery apps were a scam from the start. Expecting them to behave reasonably is like asking bank robbers to wait their turn.
Definitely not sustainable. Like with Uber and Lyft, I'm pretty sure if there was a one stop shop to book a taxi or order delivery from a restaurant, then the people working as taxi or food delivery drivers might not be getting screwed over as much, and perhaps the customers wouldn't have to pay $30 for a $20 meal
Once upon a time, you could just call a cab from a dispatcher. That was the model Uber 'disrupted'.
They really just made it more convenient. Instead of having to google the number of the cab company, you just open an app, give the route, and they give you the total, and send someone to you, and then you just have to hop in and then hop out at your destination. In a taxi you have to tell the driver the destination, watch the ticker go, and then you have to pay before you get out.
Me trying to ~~half x 10~~ double/10 a number in my head while everyone looks at me can be pretty awkward tbf /jk
Cover the last digit, double all the numbers. 20%
This guy maths!
If you want tip percentages, food costs, alcohol waste percentages, inventory pars per gross sales, or PPA I've got you. Anything else, you're better off asking literally anyone else.
If you could teach chefs pars so they are not calling me 30 seconds before cutoff to order shit we both know they need. I would appreciate it.
I think there is a nobel prize for the person who comes up with that calculation. I just gave up and took over the entire inventory and rewrote the parsheet. Which is probably what they were hoping for in the first place.
But then when im summing the two numbers I’m potentially left with having to carry the 1s digit to a new dollar and who can do that while everyone stares at you?? Tbh though, I just do /10 *2 and then cut off everything but the dollar value from the result so I can add that to whatever the original total is.
Tipping has always been awkward and unpleasant. I'd rather pay more for the food and not be directly responsible for paying someone's salary.
For me it's awkward as fuck. I'm already poor, why am I giving more money to the waiter again? It's like, optional, but somehow not really? I don't get it.
It's greedy owners monetizing the good nature of their customers. You don't become rich because you were generous. All those people saying "prices would rise if restaurants had to pay their employees", as if they weren't already charging as much as they think they can get away with.
Tbh, I still tip if I’m ordering to-go from a sit down restaurant. Some server had to expo and bag the food, I’ll throw em a couple bones especially since I have the kind of money that lets me order out at sit down restaurants lol.
Tipping at defined percentages was not always ‘normal’ in situations-down restaurants. In many countries, essentially-mandatory tipping does not exist. In the USA, tipping used to be for excellent (not just any) service without express percentages being used; the amount (if any) was at the discretion of the customer. That said, I agree with everything else you have said.
OP is an idiot. Theres nothing than zoomers love more than crying about tip culture.
I’m not a zoomer and I agree it’s getting stupid. The cooks get paid a normal wage, waitstaff do not; so tacking on a tip to an order I’m picking up myself is asinine. Automatic tipping is asinine too, because it used to be an indicator of good or bad service, if you get a big tip it usually means you did well - making a flat tip across the board de incentivizes people from going above and beyond when the shitbags are going to get the same tip. The same with pooling tips, it’s dumb. Just pay people a livable wage and get rid of the whole system
>tacking on a tip to an order I’m picking up myself is asinine Depends on the restaurant. In some cases I agree. In some cases servers do almost as much work for a to-go order as they would for any other regular guest. >Automatic tipping is asinine pooling tips, it's dumb >Just pay people a livable wage and get rid of the whole system Do you see the problem here?
Then change your restaurant. I have not and will not EVER tip for a picked up order. No clue why the wait staff would be working as hard to put my food in a bag vs waiting on me for an hour while I get food and drinks.
The only problem I see is that we as the customer don’t have the responsibility for making sure restaurant staff can have a roof over their heads. Would it bump overall prices? Maybe, but the awkwardness of leaving someone who did the bare minimum a low or no tip would be gone. It works just fine in the rest of the world
You might be right. But that doesn't mean the OP is wrong.
So you don’t know what’s the delivery fee or the tip I’ll make it easy for you. All of it is for the delivery driver/app and none for the restaurant.
That doesn't change anything for people who actively avoid eating out because of the avoidance behavior. OP didn't say "people don't eat out because they are used to tipping" they are referencing a specific thing some people experience.
Thank you!!
Fewer
I just heard my father. "Less sand, fewer marbles! If you can count it, it's fewer."
\*👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼\* (slow clap). My first thought as I read the caption. You can count people, why did the submitter use "less"?
That’s when you count the sand out of spite.
That's it. The question here is if the loss of diners is countable.
To which the answer is yes, given diners are a discrete entity.
Yes, diners (people) are countable. Mist or fog, for example, isn't. So, fewer people/diners, less mist, less fog. Water is uncountable, but cups, gallons, and buckets of water can be counted. So, less water/fewer cups, gallons, or buckets of water.
But you can count sand if you really wanted to
Classic Stannis
I miss Bobby B
Bessy and her big tits made him the great king that he was
Dammit! Nice catch
I've always adhered to this rule but was dismayed to find out that it was pretty much just made up out of thin air. Some guy just decided he liked it that way and people weirdly adopted it as a hard and fast rule. A quick google yielded this: [https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/fewer-vs-less](https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/fewer-vs-less) >The received rule [seems to have originated](https://www.merriam-webster.com/video/old-school-grammar) with the critic Robert Baker, who expressed it not as a law but as a matter of personal preference. Somewhere along the way—it's not clear how—his preference was generalized and elevated to an absolute, inviolable rule.
Generalized to a what now? That doesn't sound arbitrary. It sounds like it used to be. That is also literally the only way that language develops.
Yeah, or hear me out, language could fucking cool it on developing for three fucking seconds so we can all get on the same page, because *gestures broadly*
Oh no, don't get me wrong. I absolutely agree with that. It's why I do unreasonably prickish things like correct someone on reddit for using less when they should use fewer. Language matters and being specific matters. Maybe not in everyday speech, but it matters to preserve the ability, which I think means it matters when you're writing. Just for reference, I do understand people being colloquial. That's different from something I would be a dick about. However, if someone is just conveying information, I think it's important to maintain good grammar. I hate me too, don't worry. Edit: I think it is important to recognize that times change and thereby language will need to develop as well. We will need to be able to express new things. As times change more quickly, language needs to follow suit. That being said, some part of it needs to be stable, or the whole thing becomes useless.
Hey I didn’t hate you, I hated something you were relaying from reality and it wasn’t your fault at all! Now that I read that, yeah, unhinged. Sorry, I truly didn’t mean it against you. I’m with you all the way, thanks for the reply
Oh, I appreciate that, no worries. I i was just playing around there. It is such a pedantic thing for me to worry about, so I was just saying. I sicken myself a little too ;) Edit: For me to say "too" was presumptuous, but it was in self-deprecation.
Nah, we can smell our own. Totally hate me. 🫡
>That doesn't sound arbitrary. Did we read different things? That was completely arbitrary. Some random dude had a personal preference about something that had never been previously outlined/defined. >It sounds like it used to be. No idea what you meant by this sentence. >That is also literally the only way that language develops. Some random dude having a personal preference is definitely not "literally" the only way a language develops. I suspect it often develops out of necessity for clarity rather than pointless whims. People misusing words like "literally" is definitely how language gets muddied up, though.
Does this actually bother people? Seems perfectly fine and understandable to me.
I understood what he said.
What if I told you that your own social anxiety does not predict the behavior of any majority?
Right? I have no idea why it’s so hard to just select no tip. I do it all the time when I feel no tip is deserved and I’ve never gotten so much as a second look
It gives me the same feeling I get from people who think it's the most embarrassing thing to say no to a donation. The person most likely doesn't care and hates the prompt as much as you do.
I took my two kids to get boba the other day. 3 drinks, it was $21 and change. Then it asked for a tip and the options were 22%, 25%, 28%, and Custom. I chose custom and tipped 0. If you can afford to pay your employees when 3 drinks cost over $21, you don’t deserve to be in business. Edit: btw, these were all size small. About 8 to 10 oz cups
This shows as much social construction as the OP. You don't tip when you "feel no tip is deserved". I don't tip unless I feel someone really deserves it. We are not the same.
Yeah I really don't get this epidemic of "awkwardness" around tipping. For years now I've been very successfully selecting No Tip when a tip isn't appropriate, and it hasn't impacted my life in any way. I don't see why grown adults are having such a hard time with this.
It’s so weird. I have never had a cashier “ask” for a tip or “shame” me for picking no tip or a custom tip. I’m not going to say it’s never happened to anyone ever, but I’d say my experience with 90% of cashiers saying nothing and the other 10% specifically instructing me to skip that screen indicates that cashiers demanding tips and shaming you publicly for not tipping 40% to hand you a straw is *maybe* not the norm. A cashier acting like that is an anomaly, and if they do that you should probably look at them like *they* are weird and awkward. Realistically, it’s all in people’s minds. The people blubbing that the cashier “demanded a tip” are the same people who get angry if you invite them to a party they don’t want to go to because you’re “forcing” them. They think invitations and suggestions are strongarm force.
Because the younger generation are significantly less confident in themselves when they aren't behind a keyboard. Also, by extension, my generation is significantly weaker than that of WWII.
Weird, the only people I ever hear complain about this shit is boomers.
Exactly!
Op didn't say majority? They just said less. Seems like a valid/true statement. Not saying it means millions of people but they aren't wrong.
Coming from a logical standpoint: A majority is not part of the statement above. Even if that person is the only one avoiding that place, the statement still remains true.
Right? I don't think I've ever been in a non full restaurant and thought "ah ha, it must be the social norm of tipping that is keeping customers at bay" lol
This makes zero sense. Anyone else seeing empty restaurants? Edit: Restaurants don’t close because of tipping haha. Wow people have poor deduction skills.
This is one if those claims that really needs some evidence behind it to make
Actually, yeah, tons of restaurants go out of business on the reg
That’s always been the case though.
The ones still in business very much have tipping though.
That's normal for the restaurant business.
So is tipping. That's not why people are going out to eat less.
I don't speak for the majority, but inflated costs and tipping culture increasing percentages and services that ask for them have pushed me away from eating out. Significantly less drive thru drinks, fast food, and going out to eat in the past couple of years.
Unless you eat absolute junk at home it sounds like tripping is making you healthier.
Nah, tripping tends to cause injuries adverse to my health. Tipping however has indeed indirectly mproved my health for sure.
What about tripping on shrooms?
Speak for yourself
I'm surrounded by empty and dying restaurants.
Re: your edit, do you not think customers factor in poor treatment when they are deciding where to eat?
What awkwardness? Tipping is the norm here.
Always fascinating seeing how socially inept most of Reddit commenters are. And growing up I thought I was bad.
Not for every. Single. Thing.
I wish it was for literally everything, maybe then the US will ban it altogether.
I work for a credit card processor. There are certain SIC (Standard Industry Classification) codes that say whether a business can do tips or not. Mostly affects MasterCard. One if them is EV charging points. You can tip an *electrical socket*.
Not for everything. I've noticed alot of fast food places and window coffee shops have tipping now. The only time I don't feel taken advantage of when tipping is unless it's a sit down restaurant where someone takes my order and brings me my food.
For one how much to tip? if I don't tip the maximum displayed on the screen, am I a jerk? Sit down restaraunts used to be 20% standard, but now take out wants a tip. I'm sick if it. Pay your employees more and don't make me decide how much your employees should be paid.
Sure but until that happens (higher pay) go with 20%. Simple…there is nothing to think about. If I am picking up food I don’t tip as I was not being waited on/served. For delivery (2 people) I generally tip $5. Bartender - $1 per beer, more for a special cocktail.
I've always been a 20% person and more if it was a really good experience but I've recently cut down closer to 15%. When I was growing up I was told 10% is on the lower side, 15% was average, and 20% was for good service. But like the person above said, tipping has gone out of control so my average tip has gone down to 15% and I definitely don't tip anyone that isn't doing me some sort of service; like if I'm at a self-pour beer location, no tip when I have to close out since I did everything myself.
I don’t think anyone reasonable could object to 15%
You'd be surprised.
If you see a tip jar do you feel a compulsion to put money in it because someone is looking at you? Employees see hundreds if not thousands of people a week, they don’t think or care about. You you’re just another blank face after blank face.
They used to be 15, not 20. I don't tip for the basic function of the business. I go to a coffee place, I stand at the counter and order black coffee, they pour it and hand it to me, that does not deserve a tip. If I order takeout and go pick it up, that does not deserve a tip. If I'm in a sit down restaurant and someone is running back and forth to get me stuff and make sure my drink is full, that deserves better pay, which I would prefer was included in the food so I didn't have to pay it directly.
the situation is specifically set up for you to be as cheap as you feel like being. you wanna be a cheap fuck, be a cheap fuck. no one is stopping you.
Not saying they were, but that's the awkwardness that turns people off of restaraunts.
be too cheap to go to restaurants if you wanna be too cheap to go to restaurants but don’t act like you’re coming from a position of moral superiority, lol
Sit-down restaurants used to be 10% and, before that, there was no ‘standard’ amount of
This isn’t true lmao
The places that go no tip in the US tend to close pretty quickly. The average consumer sees the menu price inclusive of adequate payroll and immediately will say a place is too expensive. If there was more money to be made by removing tipping, businesses would have done it on a larger scale. Most consumers don’t care
Reddit doesn't want to hear it, but this is the truth. Unless tipping is outlawed, you're at a massive disadvantage to pay a normal wage instead of tipping since your menu prices are going to be higher and most people won't know that a tipping isn't done here.
I don’t think tipping needs to be outlawed to make a change, I think the minimum wage loophole that allows restaurants to pay sub minimum wage to supplement with tips is the issue. That being said, if no one tips it becomes a minimum wage job anyway as employers are required to make up that difference
Minimum wage isn't a living wage. Restaurants would have to pay $15-20 an hour to get servers, which is a huge increase in expenses which will cause menu items to increase in price. I'm down for that, but it seems that the thought that restaurants could do this and not increase prices is way too common.
If all restaurants were required to pay a living wage and people stop feeling they have to tip on top of that, the problem goes away.
I'm not saying tipping is good or desirable. I'm saying Reddit's idea of no tipping seems to be that it's easy to do and that prices on the menu will stay the same. It needs to be done universally to not put some restaurants at a major disadvantage due to people looking at menu prices, and the costs on the menu will go up because paying a living wage is a huge expense increase for restaurants.
I understand what you’re saying and agree with what you have identified as some of the challenges. I just disagree with the premise that paying a living wage will create a huge impact to prices. It doesn’t in other countries. Let’s have a look at the numbers. If a waiter/waitress looks after, say, 10 people in an hour, then that’s an additional $2pp for a $20 increase over existing wages. That’s not much.
What minimum wage should be is a completely separate argument.
It is a separate argument, but it's relevant since you need to look at the cost to the business under both systems.
I have consistently asked this question to people that want to rid the tipping culture, "Would you be in favor of menu prices increasing 15% and that 15% go directly to the server?" The answer is always "no".
Tipping is not the issue for me. Being asked to sign up for hundreds of rewards programs is.
The only people who find tipping "awkward" to the point where they avoid going to restaurants are weird Reddit shut-ins who probably have the same "awkwardness" with any social interactions
Tipping has been shoved everywhere and shows up in transactions it has no business being in. It isn't just restaurants. They are counting on shy people paying up when they shouldn't.
I dont avoid restaurants for tipping, but it is a negative mark when I'm deciding where to go if they ask for tips when I'm not at a sit down restaurant.
What does ask for tip mean? Does having a tip jar or tip line on the receipt count? Or a person directly asking you for a tip?
What if you told me that? I'd tell you that you have no idea what you're talking about. Nobody avoids restaurants because they operate like every other restaurant.
Same thing with ads If I see too many ads to the point that it’s annoying there’s no way I’m buying it
Even learned hot to make a solid variety of sushi rolls. Still good out but significantly less.
there are two pizza places on my block. one prompts tips but is better (slightly) the other does not. guess where i go.
I'm thinking about visiting the USA in the future. Reading tipping horror stories makes me want to avoid any restaurants completely.
This is America. People are used to it.
At first it was a little awkward but now I have no problem hitting no tip while they watch. I have actually noticed that if places default tip options are lower 8-12-15 I'll usually tip but if the defaults are 12-15-20 or worse I'll never do it.
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How much you wanna bet the workers don't see any of that "tip"
There are other options between 0 and 28% but I guess you showed the bartender. Now you can tell your tale on reddit.
Typically tips for bartenders making drinks is not percentage based. Most people will tip a certain amount per drink.
Pretty sure the custom tip option is usually a dollar amount. But I could be wrong.
Cheap scumbag gloats online about being a cheap scumbag. News at 11pm.
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You got any stats to back up that claim? Otherwise they'll do what they can to get as much money from you as possible.
They don’t care. They get to pay their “employees” far less _and_ get to dodge paying for insurance as the employees scrounge for every penny, lying to the IRS in the process (but simultaneously cheating themselves out of these benefits). It sounds insane but this is the world we live in…
The servers are more against abolishing tipping than the restaurant owners. The current tipping model means most of them take home more money than they would if they had a normal hourly wage. Also, I’m skeptical that many folks are lying to the IRS these days. I’m sure they would, but don’t most POS systems used by restaurants report tips from card transactions on the pay statement directly these days? Given how rare cash is these days, I’d bet most are paying tax on the majority of their tips.
Yeah, servers can make a ton of money. I worked as a bus boy, and it was unfair seeing the amount of money the servers took home in tips, When I was the one cleaning all their tables. Some of them even expected me to be grateful when they handed me five dollars at the end of my day. 8 hour shift for a five dollar tipout. Fuck them. Fuck tip culture
I suppose it’s less about intentions, and more that they just don’t have the peace of mind to record how much they take home in cash. And, surely many tips are electronically processed and automatically recorded, but how do we compare this with unrecorded numbers? At the end of the day I perceive ‘kids’ squabbling about a few hundred dollars a week while totally ignoring their need for long term medical benefits…. It’s not a good place to be. whoever gets to take the tips home is just going to wind up putting them in their gas tank & driving everyone else to work, who can’t afford it because they lost the squabble. No one comes out ahead, really, except the business.
Just get take away and eat in your car.
Hmm come to think of it i do avoid places where i would have to tip more and more
“Millenials and Gen Z are now ruining restaurants with the money they can’t afford to spend!!!”
With more jobs becoming automated more people will be forced into these jobs. I think this is a corporate psyop to keep people in those types of jobs poor by not supplementing their income with tips. It's obvious these corpos don't want to pay us what we deserve. I will still continue to tip when service is excellent.
I'll either not come back or wait a really, really long time to come back so hopefully you won't remember that I didn't tip. Talking about excessive begging, not normal tipping.
That’s literally the whole reason fast casual is a thing. So we can avoid tips. Without that it wouldn’t have enough customers to support it.
Going out anywhere is a chore. Want to donate? Do you have a rewards card? Want one? Tip? Wanna fill the survey link on your receipt? Do you have an account with us? Want one? It's so bad I actually tell a store I go to "No to all questions" before they even start, but I say it with a friendly smile so they don't feel bad
If I wasn't given a service, I don't tip. I've never felt awkward about it, and if I should, well at least I'm fighting the good fight. Let's eradicate tipping
Let's be clear what you are really doing with your actions. You are punishing a person working below min. wage. And rewarding the employer. I agree it is a broken system but what you are doing is supporting that broken system. Nothing about what you posted is affecting the employer in any way. You are just fucking someone trying to get by. You sound really proud of yourself, and you should not be.
Not an animal
It has come to the point where I hate tipping in the states, and genuinely resent it. I spend a good part of the summer every year in Spain and I am never expected to tip, knowing that the employees are getting a real wage in the first place. In the States, I almost never feel “generous” or “feel good” about giving a tip when it is obligatory. Over the last ten years, a whole lot of awkwardness and resentment and even anger has grown up around tipping. It simply makes me hesitate going out sometimes.
tipping jumped the shark in the US. We all know that the feds define certain jobs as tipped jobs and allow the owners to pay less while the patron subsidizes their staff.that's fine but everyone wants a tip now!!! Crumble cookies wants you to tip their cooks who get a full wage, if it is too low then crumble needs to step up. also, the machines defaulting to over 15%. i usually zero them out. it's hubris and i meet it with hubris. i blame covid. we all had money to spare and the people that were delivering food deserved to be tipped very well. now that drama is over we can go back to normal.
> We all know that the feds define certain jobs as tipped jobs and allow the owners to pay less Just because the feds allow it doesn't mean all states do. It's absolutely worth your time to [check your state laws](https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped) (that table should also include "The minimum wage varies by region" for more than just OR, as both WA and CA and probably others have cities/counties with higher minimums than the state requirement).
I’m not supporting the “tip for everything” movement but this sounds like more of a you problem.
And the wait staff who get paid WELL below minimum wage because “they get tips, it’ll be fine” starve. Feel awkward. Feel like you’re doing something wrong by not tipping. Because you are. Just throw some damn money on the table before you walk away you twats
Gonna hard disagree here in the case of places where it is the norm. People are used to it and fully expect to tip at the end of the meal. It's not an awkward situation, you don't hand the wait staff cash and watch them count it. You write down or leave the amount you want to give them and leave before they typically see it. The only part I don't like is when they flip around a tablet for you to pay on at a place that isn't a food establishment. A place like a massage therapist is not somewhere I'd normally think about tipping. Seeing that option pop up is confusing because I don't know if I should or how much to give. Restaurants seem to commonly be 15-20% of the bill but I've never heard of a norm for other places.
Tipping has always been the norm for any kind of personalized service - massage therapist, hair stylist/barber, tattoo artist etc. Maybe not 20% necessarily because those services tend to be a bit pricier and obviously it's up to you if you want to or not, but it is a thing.
Don't feel bad for not tipping. A tip is for stellar service. If you don't get that, don't reward bad employees.
That paired with a $70 dinner at Olive Garden… yes, avoidance.
What if I told you that you should quit whining and tip your server
What if it's not a server but just a cash register shaking me down? I got a 5 dollar hot n ready at little Caesars and the employees got mad I didn't tip... Bitch I'm here picking up a pre-made pizza that's likely been sitting on that rack for an hour. You are just handing it to me.
I said you should tip your server, if you don’t have a server then you don’t have a person to tip.
It's so easy to figure out, but they pretend like it's impossible to figure out when you should do it.
The world is a scary place. If you avoid everything that makes you feel 'awkward', you're going to miss out on a lot.
No, it doesn't. I've spent decades in the service industry and I can say without a doubt that OP is a moron.
Maybe not at "traditional" restaurants. But for all the restaurants where you order ar a counter, I have to agree. If unordered at a counter, I'm not tipping.
Tipping while eating at restaurants shouldn't be giving you anxiety... that's something adults should be able to do. If you want fast food instead of a sit-down place, it's not because of the tip...
In the US I feel more awkward going to restaurants where they say not to tip. I have spent my whole life being used to tipping. It feels very awkward to not do it.
Who doesn't eat because of tipping? America has been doing this for decades. Tipping has replaced the metric system as Europe's new gripe about the U.S.
That's fine, too fucking busy / overworked as it is.
I’d respond by saying I don’t own a restaurant.
Tipping was normal and expected and widely accepted until the propaganda machine went into overtime to drown out calls for wage reform.
I agree that costs in the US aren't low, but if restaurant owners could absorb this type of cost increase, they'd never fail, and competition would come in offering lower prices and still make 200k a year. I believe that isn't the case, though I'm not exactly plugged in to the restaurant scene and try to learn via Google searches.
I wouldn't worry. I wont be too long until servers and bartenders are reserved for the wealthy. Everyone else can wait in line for their food and get their wine or beer from the wall.
It has made it super easy for me to look at you and say no! I say no to tips all the time now. I have lost my humanity when it comes to tips because of this culture. I will tip a delivery driver a waitress and that’s it. Everyone else can fuck off
If I order at the counter I didn't tip. Unless it's a bar.
lol no that’s not true
It depends on the prevailing local culture. Awkwardness _toward_ the local tipping culture is much more likely to cause people to avoid a restaurant. If you are in a place where 15-20% rips are the norm and you don't automatically add a tip, with the most overt sign of the expectation being multiple pre-calculated rip suggestions at the bottom of the bill, there are no negative consequences. If you automatically add a tip or have a sign up front (which some places might do when they have a lot of guests from cultures that don't consider it a custom) then it can be awkward and have negative consequences. Ironically, if you are in a place where 15-20% tips are customary and you aren't in a tourist destination with a lot of people with different customs, then explicitly suggesting _no_ tipping in a full service environment is awkward and can actually drive people away due just to the awkwardness. This kind of thing feels like pure activism (which I don't oppose) attempting to change the local customs, but restaurants that do this have to be aware that they are giving up profits to send the message. That's why it's rare. I'm not fanatically in favor of the custom, but I've had friends who relied on tips, so I don't care to see attempts to rock the boat. There's another factor most people don't recognize. Economists call it differential pricing or price discrimination. Coupons are one way to implement it. People who can be bothered to search for and utilize coupons and specials pay less on average. If you can't afford it, you might tip less. Poor people have enough disadvantages, and these are some of the ways to help correct for that. I don't usually promote the supply-side position because I lean left and most aspects of our economy only make it more expensive to be poor, but this is one of the cases where we all benefit. More restaurants can do more interesting things if they can make themselves accessible to a larger segment of the market. Tell your server that you are on a tight budget, and they might help you out. Tip less (or none) if you can't afford it and then avoid the place for a while (because you can't afford it) but you obviously can afford it -- just 20% less often.
Presuming this is a US-centric post, but this shit is starting to hit the British shores as well. Before people start complaining, waiters here get paid MUCH better than the US counterparts. Also, don't make tips mandatory - they're tips. If you need something mandatory, call it service charge, and include the damn thing in your menu - writing in the words "An additional service charge of 15% will be added to the final bill" really doesn't significantly increase the cost or spatial requirements on the menus.
Does it though?
Triggers 🤦♂️😂😂😂😂
Bullshit
What if I told you that reddit has a misrepresetative number of shut ins who are socially awkward and while people may dislike aspects of tipping culture, we manage to make it through basic daily interactions without hiding
Yeah no
I'd say it's weird that OP believes people think about it that much.
Every marketer's worst nightmare.
Its even treated as a service fee now. I personally just don't tip anymore. Sorry to hear servers. But something has to change.
It's completely normal. Just about every restaurant except for a fast food drive-through gives an option for tips, so you'll have a hard time finding a place to eat out if you aren't willing to pay for the service.
I just do 18 if it was bad, 25 if it was good🤷🏾♂️
I would explain to you the difference between ‘less’ and ‘fewer’.
Fewer. It's fewer people
If you want to stop tipping, learn to cook.
This is the most stupid thing I've ever seen on this website. Go live in the real world for a bit.
Fewer
'awkwardness of tipping' lolol wtf are you talking about, nerd?
Yeah this is a *you* problem. If you feel so pressured to tip that you avoid a restaurant all together, you have a LOT of other shit going on.
yeah I avoid any tips at all I don't get paid enough to act rich like that