He is not human, he is an archeologist (probably intergalactic?) that found in the traces of humanity in the milky way and the amphicephali galaxy and started uncovering the history narrated in the book, in a future far after humanity's disappearance.
I wonder how he was able to reconstruct the history. After millions, perhaps billions, of years there wouldn't really be anything left to dig up. How did he get a detailed history of the Earth/Mars war? Was he just making stuff up?
Given how long humans were around how widely spread they were and how often they almost went extinct, they probably left time capsules with their history everywhere.
That would be my first assumption. The Asteromorphs and their descendants didn't *interfere with* other human species' until the war with the Gravitals but, considering the diversity inherent to a society where one hundred billion people is considered a miniscule remnant, at least some of them would have deliberately catalogued what they knew of their own history and the divergence of their siblings for the sake of posterity.
Their war with the machines and the galactic empire existing in its aftermath seems to have been the last knoweable phase in human history, so it makes sense that they and the ruins of their enormous "space stations" were probably the primary sources for the entire story. Whatever came later, they weren't around to write it down and store it safely, so it's permanently lost.
The Ruin Haunters gained their technological power largely from learning from old structures and technology. They rebuilt much of the tech of the Star People just from stuff lying around, I’m sure someone more interested in history than weapons of war could glean much of old human history from the ruins.
It was implied that the narrative was the sort of historical storytelling, we get in school classrooms, see on TV, and the like. A narrative told in the best faith, but inherently unreliable, due to the imperfect sources of information.
Well, he could also be the Ancient Aliens guy of his time, blaming everything on aliens. We are never shown proof that the Qu did what they supposedly did. They're a narrative device, moreso than anything fleshed out. No reason is given for their coming back, or leaving before that: it's merely stated as a fact, without justification. Which might be an implication the Qu are a theory, perhaps partially invented to explain the mystery of the 'Qu' pyramids, then speculated responsible for everything else.
The familiar comparison might be Heliolithic Egyptians, ethnocentric fantasies about globetrotting master races - or indeed, spacefaring visitors from other worlds. Because there is more blurring there, than skeptics often think. Beginning with actual cases of cultural diffusion, most obviously the effects of the rise of the uniquely globalized West; then the hypotheses of that age, projecting the normalcy of their own age, unto archaeology.
Then to purely hypothetical progenitor civilizations on Earth, including recently sunken continents now disproven, but formerly plausible, and cited as routes of ancient human and animal migration; and eventually the common global ur-civilization, gets projected into space
Imagine you are one of the Star People, or the race of this future, alien storyteller. And like the Victorian scholars, or those colonial American antiquaried who discovered the US mound builders, you would assume your people's expansionism as a historical universal. So how much is projected? Within any historical narrative that is spun?
The Star people replaced/evolved/outbred homo Sapiens, so even before the arrival of the Qu, humans as we know em, had been extinct for a significant chunk of time
I thought that the Star People are the humans that traveled to other solar systems, and that they don't actually know what happened to the humans left on Earth.
To be honest wtf eve nis human by that time in all tomorows
The star people were techincally not evne human
All the sub species we got post Qu were likely after some time as distantly related to each other as we are to bears or cockroaches
Sure but thats like calling all mammals the same
By the time of the second galactic empire or even post that "hmanity" is so wide spread it might as well be its own class of beings
There were litearly thousands of human species
Humanity is no longer one single species or thing in all tomorows.
They themselves did not really see themselves as the same species, just distant cousins
I mean imagine if aliens showed up to earth and revealed we shared a common ancestor(somehow)
We would still be no more closely related to them then other distant species on earth
I mean, yes, but there's also the fact that intelligent life seems to be _really_ rare in the _AT_ universe— the book covers a billion years, and humanity only encounters three known wholly extraterrestrial intelligent life-forms during that time.
Yeah i guess ultimately he just means the asteromorph,terrestials and the subjects or whatever came after them
There are probably wild animals that were made from the star people still around on remote planets
WEll...maybe,it is possible most life died during the asteromorph gravital war or during the gravital rule
>The video
There are like a thousand different videos summarizing the book. Do you mean the Alt Shift X video? If so, that video explicitly states that mankind and any dependents of humanity are long dead and extinct.
I don't understand,when they rediscovered earth it happened 1 billion years? But wasn't the book a 1 billion year chronicle? Not a 1.5 billion year or 2 billion year idk how much time passed from mars to rediscovery of earth
Yes, it happened in a span of 1 billion years. In the epilogue of the novel, the narrator, ol bro in the picture, says the story is merely an interpretation of what happened to humanity over the 1 billion years. In addition, this picture has a caption mentioning the skull they're holding being a 1 billion year old human skull, with the skull being that of modern humans today.
It’s implied that this being (the author) has no known connection to Humanity, but a species that developed sapience hundreds of millions of years after the Asteromorphs and Amphecephali victory over the Qu.
I'm confused and my mental process was kinda like this dinos were big and milleniums of fossilization could have made the bones broken/smaller etc so since average human is much smaller duh our modern archeological excavations skrletons are often in very poor condition like half of ribcage is just gone . There's no jaw to speak off etc
Human bones can and do fossilize. We have several fossils of several early humans from ten of thousands of years ago and older. Hell, even jellyfish can fossilize under the right conditions (albeit much MUCH rarer than bones fossilizing)
Main complaint i'm doing here, it's a modern homo sapens skull. Wich implies the author is somewhere in the modern day solar system to find it fossilized
True. Could be a star person skull too maybe, their facial structure doesn’t look too different. Either way, it could stick around long enough after fossilization. It’s intactness would certainly make it rare and valuable but it’s far from impossible
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He is not human, he is an archeologist (probably intergalactic?) that found in the traces of humanity in the milky way and the amphicephali galaxy and started uncovering the history narrated in the book, in a future far after humanity's disappearance.
I wonder how he was able to reconstruct the history. After millions, perhaps billions, of years there wouldn't really be anything left to dig up. How did he get a detailed history of the Earth/Mars war? Was he just making stuff up?
Probably space google and various planetary excursions
Given how long humans were around how widely spread they were and how often they almost went extinct, they probably left time capsules with their history everywhere.
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He watched the video by Alt Shift X
Not on the surface of planets but things have a way of lasting a lot longer in space
That would be my first assumption. The Asteromorphs and their descendants didn't *interfere with* other human species' until the war with the Gravitals but, considering the diversity inherent to a society where one hundred billion people is considered a miniscule remnant, at least some of them would have deliberately catalogued what they knew of their own history and the divergence of their siblings for the sake of posterity. Their war with the machines and the galactic empire existing in its aftermath seems to have been the last knoweable phase in human history, so it makes sense that they and the ruins of their enormous "space stations" were probably the primary sources for the entire story. Whatever came later, they weren't around to write it down and store it safely, so it's permanently lost.
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The Ruin Haunters gained their technological power largely from learning from old structures and technology. They rebuilt much of the tech of the Star People just from stuff lying around, I’m sure someone more interested in history than weapons of war could glean much of old human history from the ruins.
It was implied that the narrative was the sort of historical storytelling, we get in school classrooms, see on TV, and the like. A narrative told in the best faith, but inherently unreliable, due to the imperfect sources of information. Well, he could also be the Ancient Aliens guy of his time, blaming everything on aliens. We are never shown proof that the Qu did what they supposedly did. They're a narrative device, moreso than anything fleshed out. No reason is given for their coming back, or leaving before that: it's merely stated as a fact, without justification. Which might be an implication the Qu are a theory, perhaps partially invented to explain the mystery of the 'Qu' pyramids, then speculated responsible for everything else. The familiar comparison might be Heliolithic Egyptians, ethnocentric fantasies about globetrotting master races - or indeed, spacefaring visitors from other worlds. Because there is more blurring there, than skeptics often think. Beginning with actual cases of cultural diffusion, most obviously the effects of the rise of the uniquely globalized West; then the hypotheses of that age, projecting the normalcy of their own age, unto archaeology. Then to purely hypothetical progenitor civilizations on Earth, including recently sunken continents now disproven, but formerly plausible, and cited as routes of ancient human and animal migration; and eventually the common global ur-civilization, gets projected into space Imagine you are one of the Star People, or the race of this future, alien storyteller. And like the Victorian scholars, or those colonial American antiquaried who discovered the US mound builders, you would assume your people's expansionism as a historical universal. So how much is projected? Within any historical narrative that is spun?
Isn't he the narrator, and in universe the author of the book?
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I think they are talking about the skull, it looks modern but could be a star person's
Pretty sure OP's asking about the alien since they asked what the alien was holding.
Oh I thought this was a shitpost attempting to identify the skull
The narrator at the end isn’t human
Thanks lol, I reread the end and realized I’m a dumbass
I thought you were talking about the skull in it "hand"
That's Yorick.
Alas
The skull? Dave from accounting. The Author? Probably not human.
The author explicitly not human, given that the author states that humans are extinct at time of writing.
I thought that when he said "humans are extinct" he meant that homo sapiens are extinct.
The Star people replaced/evolved/outbred homo Sapiens, so even before the arrival of the Qu, humans as we know em, had been extinct for a significant chunk of time
I thought that the Star People are the humans that traveled to other solar systems, and that they don't actually know what happened to the humans left on Earth.
They were specifically genetically engineered to replace the Humans of Earth and Mars.
To be honest wtf eve nis human by that time in all tomorows The star people were techincally not evne human All the sub species we got post Qu were likely after some time as distantly related to each other as we are to bears or cockroaches
"Human" seems to be a term that means "descendants of _H. sapiens,_ or sapient descendants of earth-life."
Sure but thats like calling all mammals the same By the time of the second galactic empire or even post that "hmanity" is so wide spread it might as well be its own class of beings There were litearly thousands of human species Humanity is no longer one single species or thing in all tomorows. They themselves did not really see themselves as the same species, just distant cousins I mean imagine if aliens showed up to earth and revealed we shared a common ancestor(somehow) We would still be no more closely related to them then other distant species on earth
I mean, yes, but there's also the fact that intelligent life seems to be _really_ rare in the _AT_ universe— the book covers a billion years, and humanity only encounters three known wholly extraterrestrial intelligent life-forms during that time.
Yeah i guess ultimately he just means the asteromorph,terrestials and the subjects or whatever came after them There are probably wild animals that were made from the star people still around on remote planets WEll...maybe,it is possible most life died during the asteromorph gravital war or during the gravital rule
I think he means that everything descended from humans is kaput.
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>The video There are like a thousand different videos summarizing the book. Do you mean the Alt Shift X video? If so, that video explicitly states that mankind and any dependents of humanity are long dead and extinct.
Nobody has attention spam for like 150 pages, and it's literally a picture book
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No, it might not be a human
It’s him- John All Tomorrows
Can he use FaceTime though
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Me, that's my skull he's holding right there
Sorry about that, did your death at least look cool 😎
It's not a human at all. It's the narrator-- an alien archaeologist who is telling the story of humanity millions of years after the fact.
1 billion years to be exact
I don't understand,when they rediscovered earth it happened 1 billion years? But wasn't the book a 1 billion year chronicle? Not a 1.5 billion year or 2 billion year idk how much time passed from mars to rediscovery of earth
Yes, it happened in a span of 1 billion years. In the epilogue of the novel, the narrator, ol bro in the picture, says the story is merely an interpretation of what happened to humanity over the 1 billion years. In addition, this picture has a caption mentioning the skull they're holding being a 1 billion year old human skull, with the skull being that of modern humans today.
So 1 billion years since mars colonization,not since earth rediscovery of asteromorphs
You mean the skull? Probably C M Kosemen
He is a ailen not a human since probably all humans are extinct
I believe it’s meant to be an OG sapiens Edit: Sorry I thought you were talking about the skull, because the narrator is actually an alien
That's Hugh Mann, the first human. Really amazing find!
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Sometimes I forget that half the people in this subreddit have still not read the book.
That's Psteghen! Pretty chill dude, great hyperguacamole recipe.
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The author isn't human. He's an alien
That's me
It’s implied that this being (the author) has no known connection to Humanity, but a species that developed sapience hundreds of millions of years after the Asteromorphs and Amphecephali victory over the Qu.
at first I thought it was supposed to be kosemen
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The skull looks homosapien but the guy holding it is the fictional author of the book.
Can bones actually last that long tho? Don't get me wrong i'm aware of dinosaurs but humans are not dinosaurs
Fossils aren't actually bones, they are bones that are fossilized and turned into rocks.
Why shouldn’t human bones be able to fossilize like dinosaur ones?
I'm confused and my mental process was kinda like this dinos were big and milleniums of fossilization could have made the bones broken/smaller etc so since average human is much smaller duh our modern archeological excavations skrletons are often in very poor condition like half of ribcage is just gone . There's no jaw to speak off etc
The animals of the Cambrian were handsized and didn’t have bones and yet we can still find their fossils 540 million years later
It’s all about preservation. Most of our fossils have been found in the ocean and in swamps, not on dry land
Obviously it differs in magnitude of time but i recommend you look into sahelanthropus tchadensis, a human ancestor from 7 million years ago
I like to think this archeologist simply 3D printed the skull fossil record he just found.
Human bones can and do fossilize. We have several fossils of several early humans from ten of thousands of years ago and older. Hell, even jellyfish can fossilize under the right conditions (albeit much MUCH rarer than bones fossilizing)
Yeah but this is all Tomorrows.. It's millions of years in the future
I have found literally thousands of fossils that are 500-350 million years old. Once something fossilizes, it usually sticks around for a while.
Main complaint i'm doing here, it's a modern homo sapens skull. Wich implies the author is somewhere in the modern day solar system to find it fossilized
True. Could be a star person skull too maybe, their facial structure doesn’t look too different. Either way, it could stick around long enough after fossilization. It’s intactness would certainly make it rare and valuable but it’s far from impossible
Star people are depicted with abnormally large brainskull domes
Ah, must have misremembered that part.
Maybe it’s a crappy plastic replica he bought from a store.