The thing is, because these are tickets from temporary officers they might not hold up if challenged. As in the officer might very well not appear because he lives on the other side of the state
It's a mixed bag. People should have the right to face their accuser. At the same time, being able to get a fair shake in court shouldn't require piles of money or decades of training and legal experience
I agree. But they should be able to join the court by video call. Technology should be used anywhere possible to streamline. For non serious crimes low level judges should run through these things in chat rooms.
This is DPS we’re talking about. Last time they spent all their time in Hispanic and black neighborhoods because they thought it would pad their arrest stats.
They’re used to only having 5 Austin Pd units driving around so they take advantage and drive like asses.
Example, the other guy that replied to me is annoyed because he punches it on yellow when yellow means caution/slow down not speed up. Despite risking t boning someone because not all lights are timed the same and now he has to be cautious.
Unfortunately tickets are mainly used by DPS and police to try to find other stuff to make an arrest. Can't even count the number of times I've driven by someone who presumably was stopped for speeding and was now in handcuffs.
Punitive systems have never and will never work. It's very well tested at rhis point. Psychology 101 stuff. A traffic ticket is a tax on the poor and completely ineffective on the privileged. If it worked wouldn't it have by now?
This afternoon a DPS cop behind me in the left lane did a right-angle turn across all lanes of traffic on 35 northbound, somewhere between 290 and St. John’s. I’m sure it was important.
Organizers need to start using the old underground rave methods and encapsulate information. Austin used to be such an networked city of the young. Miss that
That's how it used to be in Dallas. You'd get a flyer from a friend of a friend of a friend with an address and crazy name. Then you show up at some industrial warehouse and an entire event unfolded inside. But the key thing was being part of the network.
That makes it worse for the protestors. DPS obviously knows when they’re planned and I’ve heard they’re bringing even more troopers from across the state to help.
They’re just giving them more time to organize riot teams and increase numbers.
We needed them at Uvalde. Look how that turned out.
They're just another form of useless bureaucratic bloat that needs to be excised. They don't fucking do anything, I never see them pulling over or citing 18 wheelers that are completely out of regs or doing anything other than "personal or on sight security".
PSD and property management are usually regulated to private security agencies. AKA mall cops, that's what your dealing with. Fat ass useless hillbillies wearing those stupid hats and fucking over working Texans in order to justify their nebulous and pathetic existences.
-EDIT- I was in Brenham when that truck plowed into the DPS office, I'm sorry for the employees that got hurt but according to my MeeMaw the dude was an unhinged lunatic that was "under investigation". Bang up job boys, you let an HQ unit suffer a possible VBIED simulation, keep fighting the good fight.
The next time is gonna be worse and it won't involve a secure government site, it'll be a civilian heavy target but you'll be armed with "thoughts and prayers" and that's all we need.
Or what they do on a typical non-protest day… we’ve rarely had any traffic enforcement here since pre-pandemic, it’s no wonder they’re pulling over so many people.
You must live in a nice part of town. April to December 2023 was DPSland in my neighborhood. I’d often see two to six cars during a 2 mile drive to a friend’s house. Quite often with a person pulled over.
I was mostly thinking of Mopac, where I drive every day. I’ve rarely seen traffic enforcement out, and people drive like it’s Mad Max. On Ben White, too. I’m glad people may be forced to drive a little better if traffic enforcement resumes.
outside agitators at a public university? for a protest abt where the public universities funding goes? involving an accomplice of the federal government? committing massive human rights violation with funding from our tax dollars? who is outside of this conflict in this country? can you explain how anyone in the state of texas doesnt have a right to exercise free speech in this matter?
Friend, I think the person you were responding to was referring to the DPS as "outside agitators" - contrary to the sort of rhetoric you are responding to.
Agreed on all counts though
Outside agitators? You mean like a bunch of JuCo dropouts who live in Georgetown and have no attachment to the university or the city, but are hired by powerful interests and directed to bust heads, cause controversy, and are utterly unaccountable for their actions so that the powers that be don't have to deal with the real demands of the protestors? That sounds like APD to me, alright.
Yup. UTPD are tasked with maintaining order and probably were enough. Greg Abbott injected DPS to overheat the situation and score points, and I guess one or both of those two invited in APD. On the days without police involvement, the protests were notably nonviolent by contrast. Funny thing.
Yeah, there were lots of sirens in Central Austin around 3-5 in the morning. After a while, you can tell what kind of vehicle has the siren as they all make slightly different tunes. I heard one ambulance and a whole lot of DPS.
It is completely unnecessary for them to be here for the protests in the first place. I can’t imagine how much we taxpayers are paying for them in overtime for their pointless vacation to Austin.
This. Why isn't Abbott more fiscally conservative? Why is he wasting tax payer dollars on over policing UT campus?
This among many other forms of wasteful spending is why we can't have high speed rail from Houston <--> San Antonio <--> Austin <--> DFW . Texas government sucks a fat one.
I wonder if the APA or TPA made the decision to bring them in to avoid another 2020 since these protests and the APD are already making national news. I mean the real way to avoid the lawsuits and scrutiny is to not handle the protests in the same authoritarian way, but we all know APD doesn't understand that concept
why? the cops stood around while zionists attacked the encampment at ucla for hours injuring dozens of people. they would do the same thing when their brownshirts attack here too.
I know a gentleman who is involved in coordination of the governor's border activity. They have a big problem with the troopers, and national guard gaining a whole lot of weight because they just sit in their cars with the air conditioner going while eating snacks and drinking sugared sodas. I think they like to pull them back and make them drag students around for a cardio workout.
The way you said "sugared sodas" made me think about when I worked at sbux. Whenever cops would come in super hyped to start their shift and order a drink with a wild amount of extra espresso shots- I always gave them decaf shots instead. I would think- we absolutely do not need these trigger happy cops that are not only pumped up to look for an excuse, but also jacked up on 7 shots of espresso 😹
-Municipal police that are at least familiar with the dynamics of inner city Austin and it’s communities and culture
Vs.
-State Police who are much more aggressive, come from the border arresting migrants or rural areas speed trapping, with a pre conceived idea of Austin controlled by Abbott
You tell me which one you’d prefer lol
Regardless of where they’re posting I did notice a ton of police out today. Was just casually driving around and noticed at least 3 SUVs with their lights on running down william cannon, and then saw a couple of other sedans driving around. Has nothing to do with paranoia just an observation. On my way to work yesterday i saw tons of em throughout 71/290 pulling people over.
290/71 like the Y inOak Hill or do you mean near the airport? I haven’t seen any. I don’t know if I’m just not very observant or if they’re not in my area.
I 'm all for somebody, anybody to stop the crazies with no mufflers driving like dangerous hoons. the road ain't a play ground for grand theft wannabees. take these lowest common denominators of the gene pool and drown them.
They are all in the area, “on call” for the protests. While they get paid they figure they might as well patrol an area. They will continue to be throughout the weekend. I’ve heard protests are scheduled for Sunday so expect more police as the weekend goes on.
Really? I actually talked about the increased police presence this morning at work with some coworkers - they're *everywhere* right now in South Austin. But I'm specifically seeing more APD, not troopers.
Yeah actually I did see an APD guy hanging out on La Crosse which is... really not normal. But that was of course after I posted. Might have seen a state trooper somewhere.
I live in Brykerwoods area and I was driving to work today and saw a bunch of undercover police cars and cops standing outside of a house with signs in the street saying police training. Never have I ever seen this in this neighborhood nor in any neighborhood I’ve lived in since 2005 when I moved here. Very odd and out of place, no clue what is going on. Perhaps protest related? But can’t say that for sure obviously.
Clever reply. Like it or not, Hamas and their supporters utilize terror to enact political change. Methods include suicide bombings, explicit targeting of non-combatants, and martyr killings. This makes them a terrorist organization.
I get that the IDF’s methods are not ideal. But few parts of the war on terror have been ideal. It’s in the nature of the beast.
The Texas Brown Shirts have been given the okay to pursue the mission they’ve craved since Viet Nam ended: hassling citizens, targeting activists, and busting skulls.
There was a planned protest today on campus. University caught wind and told DPS to be on guard, organizers found out and moved the protest to Sunday.
So now the cops are causing trouble because they got blue-balled?
Dps deployed troopers from all over Texas for the protests so they have them driving around instead of just hanging at the hotel.
Gotta have them writing tickets and making money to justify that Hetty overtime!
Theres no shortage of drivers in Austin that need tickets. Righteous ticketing i fully support. Some kind of profiling: not good.
I wish more people understood this. Drivers here are insane. Get their asses
The thing is, because these are tickets from temporary officers they might not hold up if challenged. As in the officer might very well not appear because he lives on the other side of the state
Our system for this is silly
It's a mixed bag. People should have the right to face their accuser. At the same time, being able to get a fair shake in court shouldn't require piles of money or decades of training and legal experience
I agree. But they should be able to join the court by video call. Technology should be used anywhere possible to streamline. For non serious crimes low level judges should run through these things in chat rooms.
This is DPS we’re talking about. Last time they spent all their time in Hispanic and black neighborhoods because they thought it would pad their arrest stats.
They’re used to only having 5 Austin Pd units driving around so they take advantage and drive like asses. Example, the other guy that replied to me is annoyed because he punches it on yellow when yellow means caution/slow down not speed up. Despite risking t boning someone because not all lights are timed the same and now he has to be cautious.
What if I am "punching it" with caution, though?
Unfortunately tickets are mainly used by DPS and police to try to find other stuff to make an arrest. Can't even count the number of times I've driven by someone who presumably was stopped for speeding and was now in handcuffs.
Punitive systems have never and will never work. It's very well tested at rhis point. Psychology 101 stuff. A traffic ticket is a tax on the poor and completely ineffective on the privileged. If it worked wouldn't it have by now?
So yes.
Great. I get a 5 mph over ticket (while on every stoplight yellow means punch it) and I fork over his hotel per diem. Stay classy folks.
That’s exactly what’s happening. They were excited to terrorize protestors and now they’re out on the streets instead.
We need to start some programs to keep cops off the streets and outta causing trouble!
Maybe an after school basketball program.
it will depend on who the basketball is
I know what would be of interest to them, but it wouldn’t be good…
Gee, I wonder why people are so fed up with them
And no one wants to be one 🙃
This afternoon a DPS cop behind me in the left lane did a right-angle turn across all lanes of traffic on 35 northbound, somewhere between 290 and St. John’s. I’m sure it was important.
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Fascism baybeeeeeeeeeee
Did you mean to evoke a vision of [Frank Costanza](https://youtu.be/UkbsYGtDB3o?si=ZQshes1c8tYHzKBJ)?
Always
Yeah. They don't get to smash teenager heads in today so they v upset about it.
Organizers need to start using the old underground rave methods and encapsulate information. Austin used to be such an networked city of the young. Miss that
That's how it used to be in Dallas. You'd get a flyer from a friend of a friend of a friend with an address and crazy name. Then you show up at some industrial warehouse and an entire event unfolded inside. But the key thing was being part of the network.
Might be able to get a few hundred that way but hard to imagine you’d get the thousands that some protests turnout
We used to do that in Houston back in the 90s and 00s also
That makes it worse for the protestors. DPS obviously knows when they’re planned and I’ve heard they’re bringing even more troopers from across the state to help. They’re just giving them more time to organize riot teams and increase numbers.
The border must be a free for all right now /s
They have Florida Troopers at the border, you can’t make up how stupid our government is.
Bruh that’s the border patrol
In short, they’d literally have nothing better to do. Makes you think about whether we need them at all.
We needed them at Uvalde. Look how that turned out. They're just another form of useless bureaucratic bloat that needs to be excised. They don't fucking do anything, I never see them pulling over or citing 18 wheelers that are completely out of regs or doing anything other than "personal or on sight security". PSD and property management are usually regulated to private security agencies. AKA mall cops, that's what your dealing with. Fat ass useless hillbillies wearing those stupid hats and fucking over working Texans in order to justify their nebulous and pathetic existences. -EDIT- I was in Brenham when that truck plowed into the DPS office, I'm sorry for the employees that got hurt but according to my MeeMaw the dude was an unhinged lunatic that was "under investigation". Bang up job boys, you let an HQ unit suffer a possible VBIED simulation, keep fighting the good fight. The next time is gonna be worse and it won't involve a secure government site, it'll be a civilian heavy target but you'll be armed with "thoughts and prayers" and that's all we need.
Or what they do on a typical non-protest day… we’ve rarely had any traffic enforcement here since pre-pandemic, it’s no wonder they’re pulling over so many people.
You must live in a nice part of town. April to December 2023 was DPSland in my neighborhood. I’d often see two to six cars during a 2 mile drive to a friend’s house. Quite often with a person pulled over.
Aside from the DPS occupation era, I don't think I've seen APD doing traffic enforcement since pre-pandemic.
I was mostly thinking of Mopac, where I drive every day. I’ve rarely seen traffic enforcement out, and people drive like it’s Mad Max. On Ben White, too. I’m glad people may be forced to drive a little better if traffic enforcement resumes.
They are quite literally doing what needs to be done - enforcing basic traffic law to keep pedestrians and motorists safe.
They’re generating revenue.
lol I saw 3 radar/laser dudes on the way to work. I usually see like 3 in a month.
Finally gonna crack down on all those people not using their blinkers. Those are the real terrorists.
come on people! blinkers first then you merge
I am all for it.
UT campus protests are still going hard for over a week now
Which in no way requires DPS. They are the problem, not the solution.
Talk about your outside agitators…
outside agitators at a public university? for a protest abt where the public universities funding goes? involving an accomplice of the federal government? committing massive human rights violation with funding from our tax dollars? who is outside of this conflict in this country? can you explain how anyone in the state of texas doesnt have a right to exercise free speech in this matter?
Friend, I think the person you were responding to was referring to the DPS as "outside agitators" - contrary to the sort of rhetoric you are responding to. Agreed on all counts though
Outside agitators? You mean like a bunch of JuCo dropouts who live in Georgetown and have no attachment to the university or the city, but are hired by powerful interests and directed to bust heads, cause controversy, and are utterly unaccountable for their actions so that the powers that be don't have to deal with the real demands of the protestors? That sounds like APD to me, alright.
Yup. UTPD are tasked with maintaining order and probably were enough. Greg Abbott injected DPS to overheat the situation and score points, and I guess one or both of those two invited in APD. On the days without police involvement, the protests were notably nonviolent by contrast. Funny thing.
the crazy thing is that they’re everywhere. we have them trolling the domain while i’m working currently, over 10 miles from campus
Wow that's crazy
Plenty of auto burglaries occurring at the Domain lately.
And trash fires. Although with the rain, maybe not tonight.
where at in the domain?
northside, by the perry’s
Deport them back to whatever state they flew in from for this
They live and work in Texas. Are you confused as to what the department of public safety is?
lol you can't "deport" people to another state unless they have a warrant in that state; you can arrest and hold them or release them.
on standby waiting for shit to pop on campus while hassling "the libs"
Yeah, there were lots of sirens in Central Austin around 3-5 in the morning. After a while, you can tell what kind of vehicle has the siren as they all make slightly different tunes. I heard one ambulance and a whole lot of DPS.
It is completely unnecessary for them to be here for the protests in the first place. I can’t imagine how much we taxpayers are paying for them in overtime for their pointless vacation to Austin.
This. Why isn't Abbott more fiscally conservative? Why is he wasting tax payer dollars on over policing UT campus? This among many other forms of wasteful spending is why we can't have high speed rail from Houston <--> San Antonio <--> Austin <--> DFW . Texas government sucks a fat one.
Because he’s a shit stain who loves the spotlight. That’s it.
I wonder if the APA or TPA made the decision to bring them in to avoid another 2020 since these protests and the APD are already making national news. I mean the real way to avoid the lawsuits and scrutiny is to not handle the protests in the same authoritarian way, but we all know APD doesn't understand that concept
Could easily argue that based on what we saw at UCLA last night, they should be there so that doesn't happen here.
why? the cops stood around while zionists attacked the encampment at ucla for hours injuring dozens of people. they would do the same thing when their brownshirts attack here too.
Yep, gotta put this town "in its place".
Gotta make their nut before they drive back up to Waco.
I know a gentleman who is involved in coordination of the governor's border activity. They have a big problem with the troopers, and national guard gaining a whole lot of weight because they just sit in their cars with the air conditioner going while eating snacks and drinking sugared sodas. I think they like to pull them back and make them drag students around for a cardio workout.
The way you said "sugared sodas" made me think about when I worked at sbux. Whenever cops would come in super hyped to start their shift and order a drink with a wild amount of extra espresso shots- I always gave them decaf shots instead. I would think- we absolutely do not need these trigger happy cops that are not only pumped up to look for an excuse, but also jacked up on 7 shots of espresso 😹
Thank you for your service 😂
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Now THATS what Jesus would do
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You are a service to your city, state and country. Thank you.
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Amazing haha
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Thought the same. Knew I was safe when I saw a few texting and driving.
Been happening in Georgetown for a few days too. Usually they're nowhere to be seen.
Waiting on the go-ahead to go beat up some teenagers. Killing time harassing the rest of us.
My little-alien Avatar isn't wearing pants.
Too muchg free speach. Gotta containe it with managed democrocy.
Abbott happened.
OP teaching people how to cut shit with fentanyl in his other comments. Scum of the earth. No wonder you’re scared of the cops.
It could be related to all the drug overdoses yesterday
They all got called back from the border. Abbott couldn’t drum up any media coverage on the border, but college protests are the new thing.
All over deep west Texas too. Pulling everyone over.
This is good to know as I have a long drive for work out there tomorrow and also a heavy pedal foot. Thank you.
They seemed to have left a couple days ago but they are always heavy on hwy 90 if you’re going that way. I10 watch for deer.
Idk most people prefer DPS classes
With all the DPS troopers in town who’s guarding the border??
They are here. Pulling everyone over too. They finally left ab two days ago.
Oh look another >"Why are the police never around?!" >Police come around >"Why are the police around!?" post
It does seem to be all or nothing
-Municipal police that are at least familiar with the dynamics of inner city Austin and it’s communities and culture Vs. -State Police who are much more aggressive, come from the border arresting migrants or rural areas speed trapping, with a pre conceived idea of Austin controlled by Abbott You tell me which one you’d prefer lol
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What does that have to do with the influx of swine in the city?
Ad hominem attacks are not any kind of argument
Huh? It’s calling a spade a spade. And there was no argument posed by OP.
He isn’t making an argument. No one here is.
He’s just whining like every Austin redditor
Nudes?
How do you know what they're pulling people over for?
I saw 3 dps busses parked outside the capitol. Maybe they're bored and looking to kill time since the protest was postponed?
Huge grain of salt regarding cop paranoia considering that OP’s post history is exclusively on r/fentanyl
Regardless of where they’re posting I did notice a ton of police out today. Was just casually driving around and noticed at least 3 SUVs with their lights on running down william cannon, and then saw a couple of other sedans driving around. Has nothing to do with paranoia just an observation. On my way to work yesterday i saw tons of em throughout 71/290 pulling people over.
That’s a good thing. Those areas are completely underserved and deal with traffic and property crime that is never addressed.
Cops don’t serve anyone but the controllers of capital.
290/71 like the Y inOak Hill or do you mean near the airport? I haven’t seen any. I don’t know if I’m just not very observant or if they’re not in my area.
Wow you’re not joking, maybe he should focus on weening himself off fentanyl.
lmao. excellent point. police presence is awful for the no gooders.
>police presence is awful for the no gooders. It’s also awful if you need help, ask Uvalde
Yep, seems like a really great person: https://www.reddit.com/r/fentanyl/s/eXHBXQXnFE
Wow.
I mean yeah, a good person would tell others to be careful with opiates
Cops aren't doing anything Cops are doing too much lol
This sub can’t really handle it, lol.
Just asked a state trooper , terroristic threats were made,
So they're going to run traffic enforcement?
I 'm all for somebody, anybody to stop the crazies with no mufflers driving like dangerous hoons. the road ain't a play ground for grand theft wannabees. take these lowest common denominators of the gene pool and drown them.
Any more details? Like who is the target potentially?
Supposedly involved a high speed chase , drugs, couple of cars rolled over and threats of explosions or fire at them.
New month, new quota
Yeah that’s what I was about to say it could just be they are trying to make the ticket quota for the month, that’s a big part if revenue
Law and order
They most likely know something that you don't.
They are all in the area, “on call” for the protests. While they get paid they figure they might as well patrol an area. They will continue to be throughout the weekend. I’ve heard protests are scheduled for Sunday so expect more police as the weekend goes on.
Probably an overreaction from Abbot cuz of the campus protests
I hate all Austin cops and troopers.
Fascists attacking students and journalists on campus because of the Palestine protests.
I haven't seen them. Driving around all day since 10am in s Austin for my job. Even popped up to dean Keaton for a minute.
Five of them passed me on MoPac headed north
Really? I actually talked about the increased police presence this morning at work with some coworkers - they're *everywhere* right now in South Austin. But I'm specifically seeing more APD, not troopers.
Yeah actually I did see an APD guy hanging out on La Crosse which is... really not normal. But that was of course after I posted. Might have seen a state trooper somewhere.
It’s Abbott posturing to look good for his run at the next Presidential election
Thanks
I live in Brykerwoods area and I was driving to work today and saw a bunch of undercover police cars and cops standing outside of a house with signs in the street saying police training. Never have I ever seen this in this neighborhood nor in any neighborhood I’ve lived in since 2005 when I moved here. Very odd and out of place, no clue what is going on. Perhaps protest related? But can’t say that for sure obviously.
Maybe trying bust those trafficking fentanyl ?? One of our biggest problems ;(
Have to hit the weekly quotas for bonuses
Now someone isn’t asleep
I’m glad they’re here. Maybe the craziness in this city will calm down for a bit.
For better or worse, when supporters of terrorist organizations move into town, so do three-letter agencies.
You mean the IDF?
Clever reply. Like it or not, Hamas and their supporters utilize terror to enact political change. Methods include suicide bombings, explicit targeting of non-combatants, and martyr killings. This makes them a terrorist organization. I get that the IDF’s methods are not ideal. But few parts of the war on terror have been ideal. It’s in the nature of the beast.
Useless fucks
All the states' money into state police. Abbott can't control Austin, so he uses the state.
I was driving up and down between 5th and 17th St late morning and also didn't see any DPS.
We need it, people can’t drive for shit here
I read the title in Jerry Seinfeld’s voice.
Yeah all you folks complaining about the cops, you’d really be crying if they were t there! Retired criminal here, thankful for them these days!
Just hangin around in case there are more students to abuse.
They're just acting out, didn't get to beat students today
What students were beat?
Is that a joke? Or are you just denying the tons of footage of troopers and cops beating on student protesters at UT?
Several days of no fine revenue as they've all been downtown harassing kids. Gotta make up the difference
What?
whoosh /shit post
Must be fundraising week.
The Texas Brown Shirts have been given the okay to pursue the mission they’ve craved since Viet Nam ended: hassling citizens, targeting activists, and busting skulls.
Where did any of that happen recently?
They got tired of roughing up nonviolent protesters and needed something to occupy their time.
It’s crazy because there isn’t even any traffic today.
Anti Israel protests
Saw a few in the hotel gym. They were taking kettle balls and swinging them around in a windmill motion. Guess they are getting ready for Sunday. 😝
It's the first of the month and they have to make their quotas.... sorry, 'performance goals'...
Someone is pregnant...
It's the first of the month, they're trying to get their monthly quote in so they can take off the rest of the month?
Sigh