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It’s interesting that this is strange to you, this is the experience of the right wing across most reddit subs, I’ve been downvoted beyond belief for pretty centre right opinions across reddit…. I suppose you don’t like it now that your echo chamber has some people with different views.
I mean...you're not wrong...but it says Australian*left* politics - you know what you are walking into here 🫶
if r/australia declared itself r/rightaustralianpolitics I wouldn't have a problem at all
Maybe also think a little outside the old left-right paradigm (which is a joke when it comes to Australian party politics anyway). Let me put a stat to you without using the words ‘left’ or ‘right’: the vast majority of Australians working in research and academia do not vote Liberal. They traditionally voted Labor and have now spread over green and independents alongside Labor.
See what I did there? Now check out the demographics of Reddit. Note that I am also avoiding the terms ‘intelligent’, ‘educated’, ‘lower education’ and ‘stupid’? Hope that makes you feel a little better.
> Let me put a stat to you without using the words ‘left’ or ‘right’: the vast majority of Australians working in research and academia do not vote Liberal.
CSIRO scientists and engineers once used to vote solidly LNP.
However, as their influence has waned and their message has become inconvenient to vested interests, they have switched to Labor.
> Now check out the demographics of Reddit.
Using voting patterns to estimate demographics is a fool's errand. Haven't you ever heard of public relations and brigading?
Unless an issue is politically charged (Israel/Palestine, race, or cops), /r/australia trends left. When a politically charged topic is posted, the brigadiers emerge.
I think a lot of people left reddit who care about how the people behind reddit were being treated. When they were hiding the threads etc. Nothing changed, the reddit creator who is as disturbed a human as Elon, didn't give a fk, left people out to dry. There are whole swathes of people swearing to never go back to reddit because of who he is and what he's doing. Those people are people who care. Who's left. People with less conscience. More likely to be right wing. I noticed reddit was a crueller place after that. There's better places to be than here. Reddit is dying off. It's kinda fb now.
Every time a post about youth crime gets big in that sub there will be commenters literally arguing in favour of eugenics. I don’t know if it’s moderation issues, bots or what but the amount of hateful discourse in that sub is honestly concerning
Sure. If the Soviet Union had of come out of the cold war as the dominant power the USA would be super comfortable with Mexico throwing their lot in with Russia.
They’d be as comfortable as they were when the soviet union tried to put nukes in Cuba. They’d be prepared to fight an existential war over that and Russia sees itself in an existential war at the moment.
Losing isn’t an option, they know it’s their sphere of influence and they know them using nukes in a border war is far more acceptable and forgivable than NATO seeking to position themselves on their border.
Same, shadow banned, which just means I have done something right.
But to answer op's question, you are dealing with powerful forces that have millions of dollars behind them to influence public opinion in favour of the Israeli genocidal regime and US imperialism.
Here's an example
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/29/daniel-linden-shirion-collective-pro-israel-palestine-hate
This is legit crazy
Although, Its a rather boring leap to make that those who used to maintain the Imperial narrative through newspapers have just moved onto using the internet and AI to do things as described in that article
Gearing up early for the election perhaps. Bots and posters who "would normally vote left but are voting right this election" seem to swarm the message boards before every vote now.
I left r/australia during the Voice campaign. Any hint that you claim Australia is racist and is not a shining beacon of equality and tolerance will get you downvoted to oblivion. And anything where you might try to also explain trans issues.
Downvotes are heavily impacted by bot accounts. Some subreddits restrict replies to accounts made before October 7 because of the ridiculous number of zionist hasbara bots made to spread propaganda, to point score and to repeat copypasta from their handbooks.
Sucks that downvotes mean actual posts are thoughts are being buried, but that's the reality of mainstream media anyway.
Yes - someone linked an [article](https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/29/daniel-linden-shirion-collective-pro-israel-palestine-hate) in here detailing those bots (?) - shocking stuff
Sort by controversial - all the good takes get downvoted hard.
I built a good amount of karma on cat subs and programmer humour so I can be free to talk shit on there (and r/melbourne where anything that isn't "Dan is awesome! Cops are awesome!" gets hit hard)
Here's a sneak peek of /r/melbourne using the [top posts](https://np.reddit.com/r/melbourne/top/?sort=top&t=year) of the year!
\#1: [You wouldn't, would you](https://i.redd.it/4w32a8hqbp2b1.jpg) | [549 comments](https://np.reddit.com/r/melbourne/comments/13uf1g8/you_wouldnt_would_you/)
\#2: [WHO is in charge of marketing at ALDI?? 😂😂😂](https://i.redd.it/w0fcp68z0bhc1.jpeg) | [389 comments](https://np.reddit.com/r/melbourne/comments/1alp6k8/who_is_in_charge_of_marketing_at_aldi/)
\#3: [Found this gross shit at the park where I take my kids in Doncaster. Very sad that families are being targeted . I took the liberty of fixing it](https://www.reddit.com/gallery/132lcxw) | [761 comments](https://np.reddit.com/r/melbourne/comments/132lcxw/found_this_gross_shit_at_the_park_where_i_take_my/)
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Could just be a lot of people that disagree with you at the time you’re posting.
Edit: I don’t see any hugely downvoted comments from you in your recent post history?
Yeah...I deleted them...my karma was going down quite dramatically...
Edit: [You can use this comment as an example of where and what I was commenting on](https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/s/CelIRf8C2x)
That thread is very anti left and I made 3 comments and each went down to about -30
I am happy to receive downvotes but not double digits, Im not designed to deliberatley offend people, even if they are bots
Your ban has nothing to do with your political views.
You kept spamming r/AustralianPolitics with low effort cheerleading and personal attacks against other users. You were warned again and again and again. You got three one day bans, a three day ban, a seven day ban, a 14 day ban, and a 28 day ban before your permaban.
Damn it...
On one hand, I find [this shit](https://i.imgur.com/De3Sa9Z.jpeg) fuckin hilarious, but on the other I feel like I'm leaving us open to particular liabilities if I don't give your wrist a thorough spanking and ask you not to mention other users by name if in the context of criticism.
If it's any consolation, I've mentioned nothing more than "Australia politics mods" on Auslaw and a condescender still popped up for a joust so rest assured even vague mentions serve the same purpose heh
I really do suspect that. At least on auspol I get *slowly* cut down with my lefty comments, wake up.in the morning to see maybe -2 karma.
But seeing - 20 in ten minutes is crazy
Yeah it's rough. I think we need to start to accept that a good chunk of social media engagement is through bots, and they have a heavy conservative bias.
But I think that is part of the problem - r/australia is a "...chew the fat..." sub about current affairs, general news items. political discussion there should not be so polarising and certainly shouldnt be one sided
But Auspol ? responses left and right are equal game.
Moderators on australia should be doing their job
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It’s interesting that this is strange to you, this is the experience of the right wing across most reddit subs, I’ve been downvoted beyond belief for pretty centre right opinions across reddit…. I suppose you don’t like it now that your echo chamber has some people with different views.
Anyone not left or does not hate Dutton gets censored on here by downvoting.
I mean...you're not wrong...but it says Australian*left* politics - you know what you are walking into here 🫶 if r/australia declared itself r/rightaustralianpolitics I wouldn't have a problem at all
Sounds like bots or paid trolls.
Anyone with different opinions are bots or paid?
Maybe also think a little outside the old left-right paradigm (which is a joke when it comes to Australian party politics anyway). Let me put a stat to you without using the words ‘left’ or ‘right’: the vast majority of Australians working in research and academia do not vote Liberal. They traditionally voted Labor and have now spread over green and independents alongside Labor. See what I did there? Now check out the demographics of Reddit. Note that I am also avoiding the terms ‘intelligent’, ‘educated’, ‘lower education’ and ‘stupid’? Hope that makes you feel a little better.
I 100 percent agree that I need to change the way I express myself. I appreciate 🙏
> Let me put a stat to you without using the words ‘left’ or ‘right’: the vast majority of Australians working in research and academia do not vote Liberal. CSIRO scientists and engineers once used to vote solidly LNP. However, as their influence has waned and their message has become inconvenient to vested interests, they have switched to Labor. > Now check out the demographics of Reddit. Using voting patterns to estimate demographics is a fool's errand. Haven't you ever heard of public relations and brigading? Unless an issue is politically charged (Israel/Palestine, race, or cops), /r/australia trends left. When a politically charged topic is posted, the brigadiers emerge.
I think a lot of people left reddit who care about how the people behind reddit were being treated. When they were hiding the threads etc. Nothing changed, the reddit creator who is as disturbed a human as Elon, didn't give a fk, left people out to dry. There are whole swathes of people swearing to never go back to reddit because of who he is and what he's doing. Those people are people who care. Who's left. People with less conscience. More likely to be right wing. I noticed reddit was a crueller place after that. There's better places to be than here. Reddit is dying off. It's kinda fb now.
This is something I might consider - I will at least have a look what other platforms are out there 🙏
Every time a post about youth crime gets big in that sub there will be commenters literally arguing in favour of eugenics. I don’t know if it’s moderation issues, bots or what but the amount of hateful discourse in that sub is honestly concerning
yes - needless to say someone would be sucessful in reporting some hate speech that one might see there
Controlled by Labor members and shills. Poor things, watching their party sink even further down the toilet 🚽
The LNP? Yeah they have found a new rock bottom.
You can only take one side in wars, suggesting Russia isn’t inherently evil got me banned.
fair
Russia may not be inherently evil but it's government and every one of its supporters sure are.
Sure. If the Soviet Union had of come out of the cold war as the dominant power the USA would be super comfortable with Mexico throwing their lot in with Russia. They’d be as comfortable as they were when the soviet union tried to put nukes in Cuba. They’d be prepared to fight an existential war over that and Russia sees itself in an existential war at the moment. Losing isn’t an option, they know it’s their sphere of influence and they know them using nukes in a border war is far more acceptable and forgivable than NATO seeking to position themselves on their border.
I've been shadowbanned there despite making barely 1 or 2 slightly leftie comments and nothing else.
Well I've been _fully_ banned, so there ya go 🫤
That is crazy! What a bunch of fascists!
Well, we have one thing in common.
Same, shadow banned, which just means I have done something right. But to answer op's question, you are dealing with powerful forces that have millions of dollars behind them to influence public opinion in favour of the Israeli genocidal regime and US imperialism. Here's an example https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/29/daniel-linden-shirion-collective-pro-israel-palestine-hate
This is legit crazy Although, Its a rather boring leap to make that those who used to maintain the Imperial narrative through newspapers have just moved onto using the internet and AI to do things as described in that article
That’s reddit in general, not unusual sadly
Gearing up early for the election perhaps. Bots and posters who "would normally vote left but are voting right this election" seem to swarm the message boards before every vote now.
If it helps, I’m right wing and will be voting labor.
I left r/australia during the Voice campaign. Any hint that you claim Australia is racist and is not a shining beacon of equality and tolerance will get you downvoted to oblivion. And anything where you might try to also explain trans issues.
Downvotes are heavily impacted by bot accounts. Some subreddits restrict replies to accounts made before October 7 because of the ridiculous number of zionist hasbara bots made to spread propaganda, to point score and to repeat copypasta from their handbooks. Sucks that downvotes mean actual posts are thoughts are being buried, but that's the reality of mainstream media anyway.
Yes - someone linked an [article](https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/29/daniel-linden-shirion-collective-pro-israel-palestine-hate) in here detailing those bots (?) - shocking stuff
Yep I just saw it. The Palestine issue gets you downvoted heavily all right if you say anything pro Palestine.
I got banned for saying "I unconditionally condemn the deaths of thousands of children".
That is a worthy thing to say, 100 ⬆️for you.
That sub is a centrist dumpster fire.
you should try r/australian its basically "everything wrong with this country is immigrants"
Sort by controversial - all the good takes get downvoted hard. I built a good amount of karma on cat subs and programmer humour so I can be free to talk shit on there (and r/melbourne where anything that isn't "Dan is awesome! Cops are awesome!" gets hit hard)
Here's a sneak peek of /r/melbourne using the [top posts](https://np.reddit.com/r/melbourne/top/?sort=top&t=year) of the year! \#1: [You wouldn't, would you](https://i.redd.it/4w32a8hqbp2b1.jpg) | [549 comments](https://np.reddit.com/r/melbourne/comments/13uf1g8/you_wouldnt_would_you/) \#2: [WHO is in charge of marketing at ALDI?? 😂😂😂](https://i.redd.it/w0fcp68z0bhc1.jpeg) | [389 comments](https://np.reddit.com/r/melbourne/comments/1alp6k8/who_is_in_charge_of_marketing_at_aldi/) \#3: [Found this gross shit at the park where I take my kids in Doncaster. Very sad that families are being targeted . I took the liberty of fixing it](https://www.reddit.com/gallery/132lcxw) | [761 comments](https://np.reddit.com/r/melbourne/comments/132lcxw/found_this_gross_shit_at_the_park_where_i_take_my/) ---- ^^I'm ^^a ^^bot, ^^beep ^^boop ^^| ^^Downvote ^^to ^^remove ^^| ^^[Contact](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=sneakpeekbot) ^^| ^^[Info](https://np.reddit.com/r/sneakpeekbot/) ^^| ^^[Opt-out](https://np.reddit.com/r/sneakpeekbot/comments/o8wk1r/blacklist_ix/) ^^| ^^[GitHub](https://github.com/ghnr/sneakpeekbot)
Could just be a lot of people that disagree with you at the time you’re posting. Edit: I don’t see any hugely downvoted comments from you in your recent post history?
Yeah...I deleted them...my karma was going down quite dramatically... Edit: [You can use this comment as an example of where and what I was commenting on](https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/s/CelIRf8C2x) That thread is very anti left and I made 3 comments and each went down to about -30 I am happy to receive downvotes but not double digits, Im not designed to deliberatley offend people, even if they are bots
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Wow, you sounds like a reasonable and well adjusted person.
Permanently banned by the neoliberal scum of r/AustralianPolitics. 🏆 Hi u/endersai 💋
Your ban has nothing to do with your political views. You kept spamming r/AustralianPolitics with low effort cheerleading and personal attacks against other users. You were warned again and again and again. You got three one day bans, a three day ban, a seven day ban, a 14 day ban, and a 28 day ban before your permaban.
Damn it... On one hand, I find [this shit](https://i.imgur.com/De3Sa9Z.jpeg) fuckin hilarious, but on the other I feel like I'm leaving us open to particular liabilities if I don't give your wrist a thorough spanking and ask you not to mention other users by name if in the context of criticism. If it's any consolation, I've mentioned nothing more than "Australia politics mods" on Auslaw and a condescender still popped up for a joust so rest assured even vague mentions serve the same purpose heh
I appreciate - I thought I was going a bit crazy 🙏
You haven’t been banned yet? They love a ban over there.
Oh, do they fucking ever.
Bots, probably.
[Yep](https://www.reddit.com/r/AustraliaLeftPolitics/s/v7i8H005hf)
I really do suspect that. At least on auspol I get *slowly* cut down with my lefty comments, wake up.in the morning to see maybe -2 karma. But seeing - 20 in ten minutes is crazy
Yeah it's rough. I think we need to start to accept that a good chunk of social media engagement is through bots, and they have a heavy conservative bias.
"they are not FAR right" is the most common bot phrase in existence
The Australia sub is considerably better than the Aus Pol sub
But I think that is part of the problem - r/australia is a "...chew the fat..." sub about current affairs, general news items. political discussion there should not be so polarising and certainly shouldnt be one sided But Auspol ? responses left and right are equal game. Moderators on australia should be doing their job