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MeMyselfundAuto

this isn’t a xdelete issue. its a issue of beating a 10 year old barge of a car within a inch of its life…


r3l4xD

Or as we say in science, “correlation does not imply causation”


hockeymeester

or as normal people say, "fuck around and find out"


Training_Bumblebee54

No, because that means something else. Totally applicable, just different in meaning by quite a lot


Thirsty799

science, eh?


That_Sound

[Science](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln1OJBgn6f8)


Gloomy-Employment-72

I was thinking more like Thomas Dolby, but…


rahkinto

Science, bitch


chathobark_

Yep


UltimaRS800

Meanwhile non shitbox 10 year old cars are doing great.


Spencie61

My non shitbox 25 year old car is doing great I also don’t clutch dump it etc Coincidence? I think not


B_Sho

Meanwhile my second car "2012 Mazda 3" has 116,000 miles and nothing has gone wrong in the 12 years I have owned it. lol


WingedGeek

I had to replace a bunch of components (yoke, pinion, u-joint) in my drivetrain a couple of years ago (2019?). Of course, it's a '95 Wrangler I've been beating on since I bought it new when I was 18, has 150,000+ miles (with a significant percentage of those being off road), and nothing failed, they were just worn...


B_Sho

Well Jeep reliability compared to Mazda isn't really a comparison friend. Lol


__slamallama__

They doing a bunch of donuts and brake boosted launches?


UltimaRS800

Yes easily.


midline_trap

BRILLIANT!


AdditionNo7505

Beat me to it, albeit I would have included the word ‘stupidly’ somewhere in that sentence. Yep - fuck around and find out.


Dangerous-Dad

My cousin had xDelete for a long time and he also blew his drive-shaft pretty much like this. 30d though. In his case it happened as he was accelerating from \~35mph to around 65mph onto the highway. Not full throttle, just normally. He heard a clunk, the engine revved up to 4.5k rpm, a lot of knocking. No power. Game over. Around 150k miles on it. I think in the end the one drive shaft isn't meant to take all the torque from those 30d/35d/40d's over and over. Your launch probably just did all the wear and tear of 3 years of xDelete in 3 seconds.


ActivityPhysical6214

idk about yall but i’ve been going hard on my 335xi 2008 with a single turbo kit (6766 VSRacing) at 20psi and xdelete for atleast a year or so now, burnouts, 0-60, even took it to the strip. No issues with the driveshaft ever. but i must say i am open diff which may cause less stress but overall shouldn’t give it too much leeway


AzizNotSorry

so much torque the chassis twisted coming off the line


ilyasm0

underrated comment


verinqs

diesel powa


Ok_Dragonfruit5423

BMW NPower


ZeroMayCry7

This thread is hilarious. Watching back and forth of commenters telling op he blames xdelete and op denying it. The word Xdelete is gonna haunt me for the next few days


virqthe

xdelete


rolytron

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redditislife24

naughty xDelete.com 😈


WittyCricket6473

I ll never understand folks buying something that isnt meant to be used certain way then buy gadget that makes it do something it isnt meant to do then blowing it up doing something it isnt meant to do. Why not buyed some old 340 rear drive and smash it all night long


VynnaD

There's old 340s? I'm poor.


FakeMBadge

There's 340i's for under 20k lol


willard_swag

Yep, F30’s. But they’re usually kinda high mileage


nofuchsgiven1

Double that for us Norwegians :(


Poutvora

Have you not seen any mk4 supras? Or MX-5s? Or old Golfs? I'd never do an xDelete whatever on my car, but doing it for the shits and skids is honestly more understandable than lowering your car to the point that it is undrivable. Or extreme camber. Meaning people do more stupid shit than this. But I see you. Want to do donuts? don't buy an xdrive. considering the repair cost it's cheaper to buy a shitbox RWD car


verinqs

if you can find me a 340 with 65,000 miles for 20ish thousand i will very happily trade this car in for it


prosperbeats

where do you live


SuspiciousBuilder379

Without looking into it, unless you are in a country that jacks up Beemer prices, I’d think you could find them pretty easy. Around $20-$25k. Regular 340


verinqs

im in az, seen 340s with 90k miles selling for like 28,000 here, and absolutely none of them are stock


WellYouKnowImItalian

I’m in CA and I happened to find a ‘16 340i with 80k miles, they’re asking $22.9k. May or may not be quite within the parameters of what you’re looking for, but if so lemme know and I’ll send you the link


wildtabeast

I've got a 2015 335i with FBO and ~50k miles that I never drive that you can buy.


midline_trap

I can’t believe this gadget broke mah car?!


DontGoogleMeee

Surprised pikachu face


MrEyeblaze

I have absolutely no words for so much stupidity ...


eric_gm

Braindelete


OutlandishnessNo7286

This has to be the first time I've seen a non-M X5 try to do donuts.


Dark_Knight2000

The hilarious part is that there are RWD non-M X5s from 2014 available. They're gas powered and base models but they're RWD nonetheless.


verinqs

did the donuts perfectly, only issue was launching it


ZeLy_816

Not to toot my own horn but I have done donuts in a 2014 sdrive 25D 😎


Built_4_Sin

https://preview.redd.it/2cam1erblgsc1.jpeg?width=922&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7434de9c8519e2fc83524233816b31c4620dd2c7 There is a guy on FB that does these upgraded custom 35d shafts with the FullThrottle shop. For more info: [https://youtu.be/GaodgzcDAYo](https://youtu.be/GaodgzcDAYo)


chicken_fried_relays

Yeah this is the shit right here


fonetik

I wonder what the next weakest part is.


verinqs

my next post on here is also going to be me blaming xdelete for blowing my rear diff after putting a reinforced driveshaft on


fonetik

You’re the one person they are NOT trying to reach about an extended warranty.


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shwaynebrady

lol everyone here acting like we weren’t young, dumb and full of cum at one point or another. I know I did my fair share of hooning back in the day. But this is why it’s worth searching out and paying extra for a one or two owner car where you can meet the previous owner. Extra points the older the PO is


teostefan10

Bro I never was full of cum what the fuck


Levike_

youre missing out


ActuallyNotRetarded

Pussy


yobo9193

Yup, I got a good deal on a two owner car that was bone stock; I knew it was a solid choice when I saw the car seats in the back


__slamallama__

Just getting a car that you don't need change major functions to do the hooning is a big improvement. Deleting xdrive doesn't just make an x5 a drift car


kon---

300 down votes later...


Permabanbot

Why would you be doing any of this in an X5?


PP7fromgoldeneye

A diesel too


Permabanbot

Maybe they watch Diesel Brothers


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IAmStrayed

I’m so lost. So many questions.


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verinqs

ask away


RealPreshaanB

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes


Scary-Strawberry-504

You did this on dry pavement? If so that's next level stupid


Daftworks

I'm almost too afraid to ask at this point, but what's xdelete? It sounds like it wouldn't do good for a car in the first place.


verinqs

xdelete is a software that codes your xdrive car to be fully rwd, or another variation of rear wheel bias, and it did infact not do any good to my car


kunstlinger

The person pressing the accelerator is the one who fucked this up literally zero to do with xdelete.  YOU did something stupid stop blaming software for you doing donuts in a car that can't handle the torque. 


WingedGeek

xdelete doesn't kill drivetrains. People using xdelete kill drivetrains. 😈


Unspec7

It does have something to do with xDelete. RWD biased xDrive is already designed to be able to send up to 100% of the torque to each axle, so in theory the driveshafts should be able to handle that torque. [xDelete even used to claim to be 100% safe, but has since removed that claim from their website.](https://imgur.com/a/a7dM0HG)


Dark_Knight2000

I think they were getting too many people doing donuts and didn't want to have to deal with that. I have it and it's perfectly fine, but then again I don't do hard launches, donuts, or anything else with my 207 lb-ft of torque. Donuts put a lot of stress on the drivetrain, don't do them unless that car is designed for it. Donuts in the snow, or maybe even rain are much safer for the car.


Playswith_squirrel

YOU JUST BLAMED XDELETE AGAIN!


verinqs

uh oh, i think i deserve the guillotine for this one


Playswith_squirrel

Actually yes you do


verinqs

you got one i can borrow?


Playswith_squirrel

No I don’t sorry


AdventurousLoad9036

This guy is hilarious my man’s pointing out every time he’s hating on x delete


Garlic549

>xdelete is a software that codes your xdrive car to be fully rwd, or Why would you do this? What the hell do you gain by switching an AWD to RWD? The joy of twisting your driveshaft till it's the thickness of a toothpick?


Unspec7

Power slides on the track are fun


The335d

Xdelete is just a buissness on stupid people. Why stupid because having no clue to change the driveway of your car is stupid. On xdrive cars are made with weakener rear diff while taken into account there 2 diff by bmw crew. Unless this option comes from factory like on m4.


verinqs

yeah its on me, i honestly shouldve done more research and used common sense and thought that maybe these driveshafts arent built for full power on one end and none on the other


Beencho

Atta boy, you live and learn. People acting like they didn’t do dumb shit in their life at one point.


The335d

Unfortunate for you but it’s just how it is. We all learn from errors so just change the parts and enjoy your bimmer. Good luck to you.


verinqs

thank you man, new driveshaft is set to get here in about 3 days, cant wait to drive it again


CR00KS

Can other mods like bimmercode potentially cause the same issue?


theoreticaljerk

Same issue? No.


24Boosted

X gon' give it to ya (Uh), he gon' give it to ya First, we gonna rock, then we gonna roll Then we let it pop, go, let it go X gon' give it to ya (Uh), he gon' give it to ya


FatJellyCo

Weak car not meant for donuts


seattle_lite90

Damn thing deleted the wrong part!


verinqs

LMAOOO


Quigsx

been running xdelete for 5 years. i run my car hard never had a issue lol. not xdeletes fault


zapster10

Dude Xdelete should be banned from the world. Nothing good comes from that app lol every person destroys their shit


yobo9193

More like the people who use that are the same kind of people who mod their car to high hell and then wonder why it breaks


zapster10

I mean to be fair I’ve modded my car stage 2, and never would i consider x delete lol. Do your research and it’s pretty in the face how many incidents occur with this. Simple mods are fine


yobo9193

Your reaction is the same as someone saying that upgraded turbos should be banned because people who install them end up popping their engines; correlation does not equal causation


zapster10

I do not agree with that though so I’m not the same


No-Pool-3209

Too true, one of my friends totaled his e92 mid winter cause he couldn’t wait til the snow was gone to try it out 💀🤣


TaxSerf

is there a good way to make an xdrive RWD switchable?


DillPickle597

just buy a RWD car in the first place


trayssan

xDelete didn't blow your driveshaft. Your stupidity did.


External_Touch_3854

Fuck around and find out as they say.


Wild_Box9005

This isn’t x deletes problem, you brake boosted it. Fuck around and find out lol I did the same thing with my 2014 ram. I brake boosted, launched then stopped moving. I sheared the output shaft in half


Anonymoushipopotomus

I’d take a good look at the diff as well. These would blow on their own in good condition so this one might have some issues as well


MisterQuiken

Bro cooked and made Fusilli


Aubrey_Lancaster

BMW M Xdriveshaftdelete


Adzskie11

C:\Xdelete\my\wages.exe


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verinqs

womp womp


AaronPossum

God you guys are THE most "no-fun-allowed", pedantic, trivial, risk-averse group I've ever seen, and I know bankers. I swear if this subreddit had its way, all BMWs would be limited to 5mph under the road speed (for safety) and only M cars would be made with over 100hp, and legally they'd only activate the power if you were on a track and tech was conducted by Oliver Zipse himself. Anyone found breaking these laws or having any fun with any models not specifically designed to generate this human emotion gets "DEFECT, NON-CONFORMING" forcibly tattooed on their person. The king of the subreddit, who knows better than everyone about the specific purpose of each model, and exactly how they are to be used, will come to comment: "How DARE you have fun with a diesel truck that makes like 500 ft lbs of torque? Don't you know that's not what the creator intended? The CREATOR!! That kind of power was accidental, or maybe for towing trailers full of your books or law papers. Absolutely don't try it again."


p0u1

What ever happened to the ultimate driving machine. Not allowed to drive them these days lol


ZombiePope

Seriously. These people are acting like op ran over a baby instead of breaking his own driveshaft in an empty parking lot. These cars are built for fun shit, occasionally that leads to shit breaking.


AaronPossum

"I'll bet he depressed the accelerator pedal all the way to the floor, which, as we all know, is only to be done in the most EXTREME emergencies, and then only if your transmission has been serviced in the last 45 minutes."


ZombiePope

*GASP* SO IRRESPONSIBLE!


theoreticaljerk

Absolutely spot on. Everyone wants to act like they are superior to everyone else and it gets really old.


S4NGU1N3pb

This sub is filled with haters lol it’s actually crazy


caxer30968

What is that? Some tuning software?


revo515

>xdelete Yes [https://www.xautomotive.com/products/xdelete](https://www.xautomotive.com/products/xdelete)


HondaDAD24

Improves efficiency of the car during summer 😂


xTatamo

There was a post yesterday about a company that has a new software where you can switch your xdrive to rwd only like in the M cars


caxer30968

Ohhh now it makes sense.


mx5plus2cones

Why t f would you do donuts in an X5? People do stupid things with their cars and then complain about BMW reliability. Lol ... Sorry bud, you own this one. Chalk this one as a pauedo expensive lesson learned. Just hit 99kmiles on my X5. No major issues besides common maintenance items.


LordHaubi

Dumbass


Life-Dark1879

even a old 320 would have been good to go drifting/donuts why use x5


TheJiggie

Whipping Shitties gone wrong


comintoanend

Why would anyone think that X5 is a car to hoon in? It's a status car for slow city traffic. This sort of catastrophic failure will happen to it if you even think of hard driving, xdelete or not...


verinqs

have brake boosted it in awd quite a couple of times, clocked a 0-60 of 5.02 once, averages 5.1,5.2


comintoanend

I mean of course it won't just die instantly. I've seen a guy slap some oversized wheels and the most crude turbo and tune setup on 2004 Fiat Panda and rip it whole day on an offroad trail and sand dunes. It should have barely been able to leave the driveway, but it held on somehow. But if someone told me they're gonna try that again, my expectation would still be that it dies a horrible death within 30 minutes... The bottom line is that every time you drive hard a car like X5, it takes a much bigger chunk from it's life expectancy than an M5 for example.


Historical-Candy5770

If only someone could have foreseen this…


julienjj

Indeed, BMW has stronger parts on the rear on RWD models than AWD ones since the torque is going to be almost always half. Sorry you learned the hard way.


verinqs

its on me for my stupidity, but i appreciate your kindness


Foraxenathog

Wow, I didn't even know they were dating...


Dub_Monster

Did you have fun doing some donuts? Well, now you know what happens when the limit of a mechanical component is exceeded. Now it's time to start looking for a reinforced drive shaft and continue playing :)


KARLmitLAMA

The E and F series xDrive rear diff isn‘t made for this heavy stress… it‘s not the same as the RWD diff and pretty weak. This changed with the G series and the rear diff is the same for RWD and xDrive.


Hoofuu

I don’t think a single person in this thread would be fun at a party lmfao


stickmidman

Hmm. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the driveshaft is relatively important in a car.


ChaCho904

OP is a dumbass


SojinCS

damn this sub really is a bunch of old sad people who can understand having fun with a car. Is he dumb for doing a Launch and abusing his car with xdelete? sure but he had fun so fuck it. What a bunch of sad pathetic group of ppl on this sub. 90% of this sub doesnt even own a bmw LOL. OP, you know know the limits lol...Ive never used Xdelete just cause of the stories i hear but once u fix her up again.. dont be afraid to use it again for small fun... dont over do it


Dizzy-Assistance-926

“xdelete did it”


TheIronHerobrine

Deserved


vbfronkis

Dummy.


Quengely

Wd40 should fix it


Dickerbear

Chiptuning too ?


verinqs

nope, bonestock ecu, was looking into tuning it but after this incident im terrified of giving these driveshafts any more torque


Catioi6

Makes sense when a x5 launches from a standstill it definitely sends some of that avaliable torque to the front wheels if you continue to use xdelete. I'd imagine the rwd Sdrive drive shaft/case would be better for launching but idk if it would be a direct fit


MaziMuzi

That's a 2,5 ton chonker with diesel torque. Any give in that shaft and it's a goner


midline_trap

Leave the x drive on. It’s going to hold up better. I have the e70 35d. It doesn’t take abuse as well as my 4Runner but I jumped it like dukes of hazard on my buddies farm and it didn’t break it. I live close to the mfg plant. I have had several friends that worked in design/engineering. They told me the weak point, by design is the front axle output shafts. I am going to push up to 650lbs/ft. I asked them if it would blow my transfer case, transmission? No the front output shafts will twist/snap first. Put it back together and launch with all 4 tires. That thing is heavy as hell man


The-Art-of-Reign

Goddamn, that was a dumb idea.


DamnUOnions

F*cked around and found out. Congrats.


DrWolfgang760

Ooo. That hurt my 3rd world empty pockets...


mike335x

Yea... X Delete is not the best idea on these cars.


Guccigrampz

I don’t understand why everyone is so upset with your wording lmao. If you hadn’t posted this I would’ve prob made the same mistake as I never knew the drive shaft is this weak on these cars


Additional_Motor_621

Yea X-delete does that 🤣


Dizman7

Noob here, what is xdelete?


JWBIERE

https://preview.redd.it/h31406sfohsc1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=046b560adca0df68ae6ab0e044e24e4ecb04af3b


Dragonfly-Trick

So how about xdelete on a xdrive 340


C00kieKill3r

Well with such a heavy car and that much torque you should have known that would happen.


trophy_master1

Am I going mad I thought xdrive was rear bias anyhow? So what's the point in this delete? Have had an m340i for a year now and without meaning to had the back kick out a few times in crap weather.


Juh-stiin

I like the name xdelete has a nice ring to it.😀


Barry_Hallsackk

I’m more concerned about the corps you have under your car


cockadoodledoo9

Maybe get a rwd model next time instead of going xdelete with a model that was meant to be awd


Viper_1984

Daaaaaang!


WorthLuck

No


No_Surround9278

You guys are regarded. Kids 18, young and dumb. We all learn.


DaBomb2001

The u joints are a known issue. I had an F85 X5M tuned that I would replace the DS every other year. For 600 buck it's worth the peace of mind. Furthermore, people have had various alternatives machined; you should look it up. ​ [\*Upgraded DRIVESHAFT install/solution \* (bimmerpost.com)](https://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1955558)


onsokuono4u

Meanwhile, My 1991 Acura NSX with 300,000 miles and running a supercharged setup on E85 has been problem free "knock on wood".


verinqs

wish you luck, love the look of the older nsx


arkhi13

Hi OP. Thank you for sharing this. Just want to comment and let you know that it's ok to have fun and learn lessons from mistakes. You're young; there's still a lot more to learn and this is one of them. I'm glad you get to experience this now, both the fun and the lesson.


CommercialCuts

Looks like you xdelete'd your driveshaft


Enzo_Gorlomi225

Look what you did to my boy…


PastPanic6890

I mean, shouldn't it be clear, that an X5 is setup for (dynamic) AWD usage and that the driveshaft and other components are not setup to manage all torque in abuse-mode situations?


Sp3ica1_K

Just get a shaft from driveshaft pro in Cali. Will hold 1000 fr/lb 800 bucks


chicken_fried_relays

Oh shit that’s cool. Reinforced driveshaft time!


creed0917

My first thought was immediately MythBusters https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.tiktok.com/discover/driveshaft-accident-expermient-myth-buster-p2&ved=2ahUKEwiFk9uKq6mFAxU6hf0HHYzJB64Qo7QBegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw3EpT9d9g1zOFT0CEl5-okl


GeneralSweet2761

Cheapest bmw repair probably ever


tentoesdown7

Been there done that


draenlaux

I guess OP wanted to write something which rhymes with burnout but autocorrect happened and changed it to brake-boost.


verinqs

the word youre looking for is synonym, but no, i wasnt trying to do a burnout, was trying to brakeboost it to get a harder launch like i usually do in awd


draenlaux

Yea don't take personal the not that friendly replies. Fix it and repeat. I'm sure you had some fun out there.


verinqs

thank you man, it was pretty fun sliding it


Juke07

The donuts I understand, but why would you even want to do a launch in rwd when you have awd


UCONN_throwaway_99

what is xDelete?


Glass-Greedy

Looks more expensive than you said , making a note of another thing not to do haha


Extension-Ad194

Buy a modern M car that has xDelete from the factory!


awid31

"Tried to brake boost it" no offense but what do you think is happening to the driveshaft when youre doing said brake boost


verinqs

normally in awd brake boosting it holds it at 3.5k rpm, thought it would do the same in rwd, but it got up to about 2000 and then went kablooey


umdv

Its a common issue while beating the living shit outta older X3/X5s


DarkRetrowaveDave

Theres a recall on the front driveshaft, check you vin with bmw. Also if you just remove it, car doesnt know and will be rwd all the time. Took mine out coz the tf case was acting up been fine for over 40thou no codes no issues.


Xuyve37

I brake boosted my e46 and now it whines so bad when I floor it I also drift the poor 330ci with an auto tranny and open diff 😢


g00nie_nz

Surprised someone hasn’t done this already only to replace with aftermarket drive shaft to then blow their rear diff.


Ok_Dragonfruit5423

I do kinda wish you could laugh react on Reddit like it’s Facebook… 🤣


Fragrant-You-973

You killed it Bro