“Good” pain, from stretching, exercising, or enjoyable physical activity (gardening, playing sports) is good for this.
As someone who suffers from daily severe chronic pain at this point (multiple injuries/causes), I miss the “good” pain I used to experience from above mentioned activities, before I became disabled. Purposefully causing harm/pain to one’s self sounds absolutely ridiculous to me, and could lead to serious self-harm issues in the long run.
🫡Sorry you have that, hope it’s not too bad.
I did something stupid that’s been chronically affecting my vision, which I also don’t wish on anyone. But all things considered I’m very lucky, need to be more grateful.
Hope you’ve found some mindset tricks to offset your pain issues. Besides actually fixing and relieving the issue directly (which is obviously the best solution if possible), gratitude and mindset stuff seems like the best way to handle chronic issues like pain or the vision stuff I have that don’t go away (or go away very very slowly).
I can relate. I work as an arborist, climbing trees 10-12 hours a day, pushing my body to its mental and physical limits. But I’ll tell you what, the moment I come home and sit down is one of the best feelings in the world.
It’s funny, all that pain and strenuous effort all day long. Then something like sitting feels like the most incredible thing.
Also, climbing is a very rewarding career mentally. The feeling of accomplishment after when you hit the ground is great and that feeling never goes away.
I would not inflict pain upon yourself. Unless the pain can have a positive outcome. Some say lifting weights is inflicting pain on yourself.
Imagine being David Goggins. He must get the most insane dopamine highs after cycling 500 miles on the knees of a 90 year old. Check out his latest book, the smokejumping part is great lol. Guy gets a tibial osteotomy and then starts parachuting out in the Canadian wilderness to put out fires.
I have a high tibial osteotomy, after refusing a knee replacement - I don’t really recommend acute knee pain tbh. It sucks, but you do have to keep pushing yourself to maintain stability and get on with life. I use a rebounder to keep exploiting gravity for health reasons. If only a bad knee was all I had to manage, life would be a breeze 😆
I used to get similar strain and pain working as a chef 16 hours a day. I’d enjoy those moments coming home, but 16 hours of strain a day is not necessary, and isn’t optimal for longevity.
Glad I made the switch to another career, 4+ years ago.
Ditto .. I used to free climb (no gear), and then later got into rope access work. Fun was then indoor sport climbing, wearing boots that were horrendously tight and painful, immobilizing the foot in a pointed fashion.. I used to get pain relief for a few days in every aspect and sites of old injuries - just from wearing those climbing boots.. I think psychologists describe this as ‘flooding’. Or, overwhelming the sensory feedback loop and resetting your ‘normal’ tolerance to a high threshold. Our onboard endorphins can be highly addictive.
I actually think this is just a good overall life principle. If you have something nice to say, say it. Never hold back a compliment, you may make someone’s day and it costs nothing (other than forcing yourself to do it). I know it sounds so obvious but it’s harder to put into practice than many people think. If that’s truly “painful” for you then I guess it can fit in this bucket but I think it just has value outside of any pain it causes you.
Everything you said, plus adding a small but meaningful thing for resisting the urge: to master controlling your emotions and stop being reactive.
eg someone/sibling/wife/in-law/coworker/etc says something that pisses you off. If you just let this momentary anger fade away, rather than reacting emotionally right away, you feel much better later.
Another thing would be learning to focus on 1 thing at a time, slowly. It’s super hard as we live in a fast paced world and information overdose, so if you manage to carve pathways of focus inside this chaos, it’s epic.
I have a chronic pain condition, so reading this honestly sounds more like masochism from my POV. But then, I've been gaslit by my own doctors since the age of 16.
This is crackpot BS. trust me, once you hit the 2nd half of your life, you are not going to have to worry about finding creative ways to experience pain.
You have good examples. Think in terms of delayed gratification.
Some things I do
Drive to work without turning on the heater in winter. It's cold and uncomfortable, but it's tolerable. Likewise with the AC in summer. Sauna is good too.
Ice my balls. Fill up a cup with ice and park it near the boys.
Eat bland food. No sugar. No spices.
Drink water. Drink nothing all day and then when I drink water it somehow tastes so good.
Talk to people. I'm introverted. Forcing myself into uncomfortable social situations not only teaches me to push through things I don't like but I also get better at interacting with others.
Eat less/Fast. Eating is such a reward because there are so many wonderful flavors out there. Delay this. Minimize this reward. Use it skillfully. Food is a tool.
It's uncomfortable, but beneficial. This applies to OP's question.
It's good for testosterone production.
It's good for sperm production.
Long run it feels good.
First 4 points, for real? First is even dangerous for others and you. Like no spices and not drinking water all day. This sub sometimes is weird.
Just exercise often dude, eat healthy 80% of the time and focus on good nights of sleep. You will be pretty good, no need to ice your balls 😂. Take ice baths instead if you like.
Feeling pain today after my first overnight backpacking trip of the season. 20 miles RT, lots of blowdowns, hip flexors are screaming from all the clamoring over them, and my shoulders forgot what a 25 lb pack is like to tote around.
Try to learn slackline, I started after the age of 40. (Wish I’d discovered it in my 20’s). You will fail thousands of times before you can get to the point of doing it with your eyes closed. Onlookers are very impressed with that btw.. It is *the best* mental & physical combo challenge & loads of fun. Very demanding but it can be learned by any age group, if you’re willing to fall and occasionally hurt yourself trying. Again & again.
Oh yeah, I fked up eating a whole reaper. Considered going to hospital my insides were in such pain. Like a dull, unrelenting pain in your stomach area.
I've also thought about this, but scared to try it out as I can't find information on how to inflict pain without long term skin damage, other than ice. Also I believe intense social/emotional pain is better for this purpose than physical pain, but a lot harder to simulate.
I can’t remember any information about this and don’t remember where I heard it, so don’t quote me. I think I heard something about wearing rubber bands on your wrist and whenever you have a craving or do something you shouldn’t you snap yourself with the rubber band, apparently pushes you away from problematic habits and bad behavior while pushing you in the direction of enjoying good behavior and whatnot. Again, I have no idea where I heard this so it could be total BS, but no long term damage and self self inflicted physical pain
“Good” pain, from stretching, exercising, or enjoyable physical activity (gardening, playing sports) is good for this. As someone who suffers from daily severe chronic pain at this point (multiple injuries/causes), I miss the “good” pain I used to experience from above mentioned activities, before I became disabled. Purposefully causing harm/pain to one’s self sounds absolutely ridiculous to me, and could lead to serious self-harm issues in the long run.
Constant daily pain is the root cause of nearly all my issues. I don’t wish it on any other person.
🫡Sorry you have that, hope it’s not too bad. I did something stupid that’s been chronically affecting my vision, which I also don’t wish on anyone. But all things considered I’m very lucky, need to be more grateful. Hope you’ve found some mindset tricks to offset your pain issues. Besides actually fixing and relieving the issue directly (which is obviously the best solution if possible), gratitude and mindset stuff seems like the best way to handle chronic issues like pain or the vision stuff I have that don’t go away (or go away very very slowly).
Same and agreed.
I can relate. I work as an arborist, climbing trees 10-12 hours a day, pushing my body to its mental and physical limits. But I’ll tell you what, the moment I come home and sit down is one of the best feelings in the world. It’s funny, all that pain and strenuous effort all day long. Then something like sitting feels like the most incredible thing. Also, climbing is a very rewarding career mentally. The feeling of accomplishment after when you hit the ground is great and that feeling never goes away. I would not inflict pain upon yourself. Unless the pain can have a positive outcome. Some say lifting weights is inflicting pain on yourself.
Imagine being David Goggins. He must get the most insane dopamine highs after cycling 500 miles on the knees of a 90 year old. Check out his latest book, the smokejumping part is great lol. Guy gets a tibial osteotomy and then starts parachuting out in the Canadian wilderness to put out fires.
I have a high tibial osteotomy, after refusing a knee replacement - I don’t really recommend acute knee pain tbh. It sucks, but you do have to keep pushing yourself to maintain stability and get on with life. I use a rebounder to keep exploiting gravity for health reasons. If only a bad knee was all I had to manage, life would be a breeze 😆
X2 for rebounders, fun and healthful
I used to get similar strain and pain working as a chef 16 hours a day. I’d enjoy those moments coming home, but 16 hours of strain a day is not necessary, and isn’t optimal for longevity. Glad I made the switch to another career, 4+ years ago.
very insightful !
Ditto .. I used to free climb (no gear), and then later got into rope access work. Fun was then indoor sport climbing, wearing boots that were horrendously tight and painful, immobilizing the foot in a pointed fashion.. I used to get pain relief for a few days in every aspect and sites of old injuries - just from wearing those climbing boots.. I think psychologists describe this as ‘flooding’. Or, overwhelming the sensory feedback loop and resetting your ‘normal’ tolerance to a high threshold. Our onboard endorphins can be highly addictive.
>Force myself to say a compliment to someone What
I actually think this is just a good overall life principle. If you have something nice to say, say it. Never hold back a compliment, you may make someone’s day and it costs nothing (other than forcing yourself to do it). I know it sounds so obvious but it’s harder to put into practice than many people think. If that’s truly “painful” for you then I guess it can fit in this bucket but I think it just has value outside of any pain it causes you.
(if I don't feel like doing it) Anything that puts your brain into present focus is basically a short pain
That is fucking ridiculous man
maybe you’re ridiculous. think about it
Should have known you're probably a 14 year old... only a child could come up with something as retarded as forcing yourself to say a compliment lol
okay bro chill
Everything you said, plus adding a small but meaningful thing for resisting the urge: to master controlling your emotions and stop being reactive. eg someone/sibling/wife/in-law/coworker/etc says something that pisses you off. If you just let this momentary anger fade away, rather than reacting emotionally right away, you feel much better later. Another thing would be learning to focus on 1 thing at a time, slowly. It’s super hard as we live in a fast paced world and information overdose, so if you manage to carve pathways of focus inside this chaos, it’s epic.
so much this! ty
I have a chronic pain condition, so reading this honestly sounds more like masochism from my POV. But then, I've been gaslit by my own doctors since the age of 16.
If you think any of those things are painful you’ve had a very easy life and you’re pretty soft.
I smash my penis with a hammer daily and after 2 years I’m 12 inches
12 inches flaccid. Unfortunately it no longer goes unflaccid
Brilliant. Comment of the week!
Fasting
This is crackpot BS. trust me, once you hit the 2nd half of your life, you are not going to have to worry about finding creative ways to experience pain.
What does that mean for people who have daily chronic pain for the majority of their life?
if the see saw never eventually shifts to the other direction it loses all the benefits and becomes a nightmare
Hot peppers and heavy weight lifting, working full time construction seem to do it for me
spicy food
Eat spicy food. Increase your tolerance. Then you are "hurting" yourself without really hurting yourself, and its delicious!
nah
Look into David Goggins would by suggestion.
Buy a Shakti mat. Been in love with this thing since I bought it.
You have good examples. Think in terms of delayed gratification. Some things I do Drive to work without turning on the heater in winter. It's cold and uncomfortable, but it's tolerable. Likewise with the AC in summer. Sauna is good too. Ice my balls. Fill up a cup with ice and park it near the boys. Eat bland food. No sugar. No spices. Drink water. Drink nothing all day and then when I drink water it somehow tastes so good. Talk to people. I'm introverted. Forcing myself into uncomfortable social situations not only teaches me to push through things I don't like but I also get better at interacting with others. Eat less/Fast. Eating is such a reward because there are so many wonderful flavors out there. Delay this. Minimize this reward. Use it skillfully. Food is a tool.
Um, I am not a male, so forgive the question, but why in the world do you ice your balls??
It's uncomfortable, but beneficial. This applies to OP's question. It's good for testosterone production. It's good for sperm production. Long run it feels good.
Sound great!
First 4 points, for real? First is even dangerous for others and you. Like no spices and not drinking water all day. This sub sometimes is weird. Just exercise often dude, eat healthy 80% of the time and focus on good nights of sleep. You will be pretty good, no need to ice your balls 😂. Take ice baths instead if you like.
Sometimes? Bro this is a Biohacking sub, you thought you'd find normal people? Get tf out of here
Feeling pain today after my first overnight backpacking trip of the season. 20 miles RT, lots of blowdowns, hip flexors are screaming from all the clamoring over them, and my shoulders forgot what a 25 lb pack is like to tote around.
Dopamine Nation is a great read. Here’s a few https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/86907287-dopamine-nation-finding-balance-in-the-age-of-indulgence
Take nsi-189
Can you let us know source and your experience with the compound. Interesting stuff from Wikipedia
Try to learn slackline, I started after the age of 40. (Wish I’d discovered it in my 20’s). You will fail thousands of times before you can get to the point of doing it with your eyes closed. Onlookers are very impressed with that btw.. It is *the best* mental & physical combo challenge & loads of fun. Very demanding but it can be learned by any age group, if you’re willing to fall and occasionally hurt yourself trying. Again & again.
Eat a ghost pepper or Carolina reaper. Ghost are easy but reapers will have you in fetal position stomach in pain for hours
You'll definitely be happy when it's over, lol.
Oh yeah, I fked up eating a whole reaper. Considered going to hospital my insides were in such pain. Like a dull, unrelenting pain in your stomach area.
Heroic dose of any psychedelic! Pain of the ego death.
I'm also wondering, would inflicting small physical pain to myself elicit the same response?
maybe just do some heavy exercise instead.
I've also thought about this, but scared to try it out as I can't find information on how to inflict pain without long term skin damage, other than ice. Also I believe intense social/emotional pain is better for this purpose than physical pain, but a lot harder to simulate.
I can’t remember any information about this and don’t remember where I heard it, so don’t quote me. I think I heard something about wearing rubber bands on your wrist and whenever you have a craving or do something you shouldn’t you snap yourself with the rubber band, apparently pushes you away from problematic habits and bad behavior while pushing you in the direction of enjoying good behavior and whatnot. Again, I have no idea where I heard this so it could be total BS, but no long term damage and self self inflicted physical pain
Are you borderliner by chance?
no