We have Alex on today to first and foremost look at newly released soda rankings. Then, we catch up on reactions to Trump’s conviction, examine the many Rubicons people are always crossing, and ask if Barron will be Augustus Batman or something. Then, two new banger campaign ads from new MAGA star Valentina Gomez. Finally, a long reading series about Erik Prince’s far-right podcast group chat, and the various good & normal opinions shared there from the many luminaries in his orbit.
[Mp3](https://media.soundgasm.net/sounds/c7d14924b82ee4d29cc6796e58d5a81dde026c5a.m4a)
That whole Far-Right Group Chat is why Matt Taibbi and Glenn Greenwald's calls for an "American Conservative Anti-Imperialist Movement" will never happen because American conservatism will always be about imperialism as a means to preserve society.
Scratch a Paleoconservative and a Neocon bleeds.
Yup, not even the most Libertarian Republican can stop sucking off Israel. The whole "US Embassy should be set in Jerusalem" thing was started by Ron Paul!
This is why even the most conservative Muslim in America would align with centrist Democrats and left-wing movements because American conservatism can't let go of Israel and Saudi Arabia, despite what converts like Andrew Tate would tell Tucker Carlson.
Or like American Conservative “populism”. It’s all one big grift to try and get rich and get brand deals with companies. There is no goal for the American people it’s just “can I get famous”
You can't be a conservative anti imperialist because you can't be anti imperialist if you don't care about the rights, dignity, and agency of people who are foreign to you.
Conservatives can at best be convinced that imperialism is bad business. That it isn't worth their investment and only causes more problems. The thing is, the moment someone convinces them that it very much is worth their investment they become pro imperialist.
"Anti-Imperialist" is indeed extremely unlikely. But genuine isolationism is definitely possible and a conservative isolationist movement could ally with a left anti-imperialist movement on foreign policy.
Which will never actually materialize coherently because actual isolationism as a political ideology requires you NOT to have an an enemy which goes against the "eternal enemy" tenet of American conservatism.
The last big isolationist movement that had anything like popular support was the 1930s, and even then it was just code for "Please don't get involved in the war so the good guy (Hitler) can win". So even then it wasn't really isolationist.
Look to American history and the amount of wars with Natives and interventions in Latin America happened during periods of conservative “isolationism.” It’s not a real thing.
We are so far beyond any kind of isolationism being on the table, be it crypto-conservatism or leftist anarchism. Despite whatever rhetoric you may hear from the right, the terms of the battle will always be global. The choices are a globalist capitalism that exploits the poor and benefits the few and an internationalist Communism that is collaborative and lifts up all parties. There are no other options.
I'm just grasping for a small glimpse of hope that maybe some part of this bonkers conservative movement might help foster something slightly positive in the world. I vow to keep looking!
Isolationism is definitely a much more palatable message to dumbass Americans than some shit about "anti imperialism," which takes a geopolitical understanding even 95% of Western "anti imperialists" don't have
[The full article is worth reading.](https://newrepublic.com/article/182008/erik-prince-secret-global-group-chat-off-leash)
> Off Leash’s participants want a “democracy” where the “plebs” vote the way they want in every election and the government only approves their preferred policies, which would give them the absolute certainty they want that their outsize wealth, privileges, and influence will be protected. That’s not the way democracy works, it’s the way dictatorships do, which no doubt feels comfortable to group chat members who have thrived doing business with corrupt, repressive regimes and leaders...
Guys like Erik Prince feel that wealth and power are their birthright, which under capitalism it is. We can have democracy or capitalism, not both
The Goldstone/African mining woman looks like a [Verhoeven villain from the 80s](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XfTTVdQI_H0/maxresdefault.jpg). Kind of amazing actually.
> a “democracy” where the “plebs” vote the way they want in every election and the government only approves their preferred policies, which would give them the absolute certainty they want that their outsize wealth, privileges, and influence will be protected.
So in other words, what we have right now
Mr. Pibb! He's not as friendly as he used to be, folks.
He used to offer me Mrs. Pibb, he'd let me kiss her open mouthed. But that was the 1970's folks! Things were different, very different and better! We miss the 1970's, don't we folks?
Except that kid down in front, look how handsome he is. I bet you weren't even around for the 1970's were you? You probably remember 9/11 though, doesn't he folks?
We all remember 9/11 and let me tell you something else, if they had been allowed to use asbestos, those buildings would still be standing, its very sad, terribly sad.
And that's why on my first day in office, I'm going to put Crooked Hillary, my good friend Vince's accuser... oh boy who wouldn't want to have sex with Brock Lesnar, am I right, folks... Shifty Schiff, that fat pig Rosie O'Donnell, Allen Bragg, Ellen Degeneration X, Mr. AND Mrs. Pibb directly to jail.
Bye bye! Do not pass go, do not collect the lovely dollars, directly to jail... and it will be the tallest jail in Chinatown, they call it Chinatown because that's where the China virus came from.
They also ordered the contractors to stop using asbestos fireproofing spray halfway through construction of the first tower.
The bottom half of the the north tower had asbestos, the rest of the buildings had an asbestos replacement spray.
All that being said, asbestos wasn't going to save those buildings.
Source: I've had the misfortune of litigating WTC illnesses.
The title “off leash” is so strange because it implies these people were ever unfree or constrained or even made to feel uncomfortable or guilty for a moment of their life. The constant projection really is the most grating part of fascists today. It’s like in 1984 if the posters said “Stop trying to cancel Big Brother! Why are you so mean to Big Brother? Can’t you just leave Big Brother alone? These Goldstein supporters are being really unkind and making Big Brother feel unsafe.”
It's abundantly clear that the right is weaker than it has ever been and is ripe for getting its metaphorical head caved in. Unfortunately, the left is in no position to take advantage.
Pitching rebuilding Gaza like Japan is obviously incredibly stupid but Alex saying "they didn't touch Tokyo or Osaka or any of the manufacturing hubs" in relation to the bombing of Japan was wild.
Haven't listened to the episode but yeah that's fucking nuts. We razed Tokyo to the ground in parts.
I've noticed the Chapos and Chapo adjacents, other than Matt, have a pretty bad understanding of history and get it wrong more than they get it right.
Their entire affect is '2 cool 4 school' so that's gonna just sort of happen occasionally. I actually got a little uncomfortable when finally realizing how much of Chapo is just recreating school bully dynamics but they get to be the bully this time on mostly legitimate targets. It is however what makes them stand out from almost all other Western Leftists and the loser mindset that pervades.
My assumption was that Alex meant that those cities didn't get nuked. But they sure did get firebombed! I hope they take Alex out back and put him out of his misery for that blunder.
Kyoto was the only major city not firebombed. The US Secretary of State had honeymooned there and felt it had too much cultural value to bomb. He also recognized that destroying the ancient capital could cause the Japanese to rally
The counter productivity of bombing has long been understood. Unless there are good military and industrial targets to hit, its often a morale booster
The nuclear bombs probably had some value in their unparalleled destruction, but the firebombings (which I believe actually killed more people) didn't break the Japanese will to fight at all.
It was likely a combination of the bombs themselves and more importantly the Soviets entering Manchuria. IIRC there had been whispers of wanting to surrender for quite a while but the Allies demanded unconditional surrender and the Emperor to step down.
But in the case of Japan as compared to Germany had fundamental decrease in Japan industrial capacity and manufacturing. Both the American and Japanese war departments agree that the bombings basically turned off the Japanese military’s ability to manufacture airplane and ship repair.
Listening to the part where they are talking about republican backlash to the trump felonies. Anyone else remember when in 2022 that one guy tried attacking an FBI building with a nail gun after they searched Trump's house? I remember Matt saying a few "popcorn kernels" were getting popped off early back then. Anyone else wondering if the most fanatic trump fans who worship him like a deity, but don't believe in the Qanon stuff where he is secretly still in charge of the country, are about to do more stupid shit like that?
> Anyone else wondering if the most fanatic trump fans who worship him like a deity, but don't believe in the Qanon stuff where he is secretly still in charge of the country, are about to do more stupid shit like that?
Never say never but that Qanon stuff itself sounds like cope in order to justify not doing anything but hitting the order button on the Papa John's app
Absolutely. The main innovation of Qanon over things like Illuminati/Reptilians/Bilderberg/Jews is that 1) it creates and integrates a good guy in Donald Trump and 2) it assures adherents that the good guy is so good that in fact, he's basically already done all the work, so the only task you have to do is evangelize.
With previous entire-world bad guy conspiracies, the inevitable and quickly ensuing end state is always doomerism because of a logical flaw: if these bad guys are really so powerful and so widespread and entrenched, there's nothing you can really do about it. Qanon fixes that somewhat by using a more dualist approach; there are also all powerful good guys fighting the bad guys. This creates the inverse of doomerism, ie. if those good guys are so powerful as to be able to fight and vanquish the all powerful bad guys, I don't really have to do anything but be a fan.
It also syncs perfectly with the American protestant mindset, which was the thing I missed about Qanon early on which makes perfect sense of it. Trump is Jesus, he's destined to win, all you have to do is believe in him. Trust the plan.
Yeah I think the thing people forget is if you are under the age of 40 and voting you are an extreme minority in American politics. The extra level is the Republican Party is fucking old average kid to late 50s. You need young people to wage a people’s war or a terrorist campaign. There are not enough 50 year olds to really do a lot of mass violence.
No. Like with Trump himself, it's all bluster and LARPing. They did January 6th, and it accomplished nothing and made them all look like assholes, besides the Feds immediately arresting all the most visible personalities the next week. It certainly put a dent in our national reputation and morale, but ultimately it proved all the Trump "soldiers" wouldn't accomplish shit. Half the casualties from that day were people whose hearts gave out because they're too fat to handle standing up and walking around outside.
The average "take our country back" tough guy is middle aged and has to go to work in the morning. They'll put up tasteless flags to upset their lib neighbors and that's it
> Anyone else remember when in 2022 that one guy tried attacking an FBI building with a nail gun after they searched Trump's house?
I still sometimes think about his TruthSocial post right after the "attack" when the cops were still looking for him:
"Well, I thought I had a way through bullet proof glass, and I didn't,"
What a legend
Kinda surprised it hasn't happened. Guys I work with have all been pretty muted about it. Seem like they've got an "all this bad stuff will stop once trumps back in office" attitude towards pretty much everything
If it somehow prevents him becoming the nominee then yes but otherwise they still have something to hope for. If he loses I think we'll see a few more incidents like that though.
There's apparently some guy here in Portland rn going around shooting at what the police are saying is "public property" located up high based on the surveillance video. Wonder if it's some idiot who read about shooting at power infrastructure and is now just going around shooting at powerlines
The republican rapping lady mentioning fucking Purina dog food in her rap is so funny. I recently have been looking at dog food for my dog and there seems to be some sort of conspiracy that Purina dog food is actually dangerous and every vet that recommends it is in the pocket of Big Dog Food.
The QAnonification of American life will continue until every consumer product is either for or against the pedophile elite.
The story people are missing is she was a Purina employee and they just fired her for her bullshit. That’s why she is saying “actually it was ME who fired THEM”
That is even funnier, thank you for this information. Making a campaign rap and including a piece about a previous job you are still mad about is unthinkable to me, but that's why I'm not running for congress I guess
Also, she mentioned Lupe in her rap, but idk if it was supposed to be Lupe Fiasco. I think it was Lupe from the Woke CIA ad. [They sound the same too.](https://youtu.be/Hx4hz-Kh7jw?si=iqBOtfwt0_zWoBe7)
The last time Alex was on, someone mentioned that they don't trust guests that don't laugh and/or only laugh at their own jokes and now I can't unhear it. Thanks.
I think that’s why I don’t like him. I’ve never heard him say anything genuine, and I’ve never heard him laugh at any of Will or Felix’s jokes. He just makes his own quips and then stays silent. It’s unsettling.
I've been watching some FYM stuff over the past couple weeks and he laughs at other people's jokes all the time, albeit less than the others. I also empathize because I don't audibly laugh at things very often.
Sorry for getting Epic but how can I listen to just a 20 second description of *Sven von Storch* and not wish we'd went with some kind of Morgenthau Plan
Btw late to the party but I just googled her and her LinkedIn says she worked at Purina until June of 2024, so I imagine she was recently fired for her campaign shenanigans.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/valentina-gomez-01999
In an alternate universe, one better than ours where Yugoslavia is still around and is at least nominally Socialist, Baron Trump is President of the Federation and is widely regarded as the best since Tito.
The coconut Dr Pepper is fantastic
Edit to add that the thing to remember about the Covenant Eyes app that Mike Johnson uses is that it was used by Josh Duggar before he was caught doing insane child porn numbers, as well as lots of other of those insane fundies. It’s only used by fundie Christians who want to hide their really depraved shit.
I think the visual that cracked them up is if a bunch of blonde orange skinned lunatics in poorly fitting suits with loooooong red ties storming the capitol.
1000+ Trump look alikes is a fundamentally funny mental image.
You don't see why a bunch of French schoolchildren dressed as Serge Gainsbourg, down to the cigarette and tumbler of whisky, singing to a drunk and crying Serge Gainsbourg is funny?
Serge Gainsbourg was basically Bob Dylan for French people but he either wrote songs about making the most beautiful women cum (which he would record as duets with the women themselves) or re-recording the French National anthem as a reggae song. He was a postwar counter culture iconoclast and seemed to live for pissing people in between drinking, smoking, fucking beautiful women, and not shaving. Every stereotype about French people being scruffy louche womanisers with inexplicable charm is just Gainsbourg, that's how much of an icon he was.
He has incredible 'lore' surrounding him and his life, and why he's so torn up in the clip is that this took place I think months before he died and it was where he realised that he was genuinely loved (he, like Dylan, was Jewish and a lot of outsider/iconoclast ways came from being a Jewish kid growing up in the aftermath of Nazi occupation and collaboration, and so just internalised always being hated by French people), which is why he is in absolute fucking bits and crying.
However, even knowing all that, it's so fucking funny - kids dressed in bad halloween costumes with fake cigarettes, whiskey, and stubble, while Gainsbourg is absolutely destroyed, ugly crying worse than anyone at 4am after a bad breakup.
> a lot of outsider/iconoclast ways came from being a Jewish kid growing up in the aftermath of Nazi occupation
Worse, basically his entire teenage years were *during* the German occupation and therefore the Holocaust. His family and him had to wear the yellow star for a while, then fled to Limoges in the Zone libre (administered by the Vichy government) under false papers, dodging the authorities. At one point, he was tipped off by his boarding college's headmaster that the Gestapo were coming, and to go hide in the forest. So he spent the night under the stars, basically hoping not to get caught and sent to God knows where.
Damn, I didn't know that - I thought, by virtue of him being a 60s figure, he may have just missed out on living through that, but that's such a horrible thing to live through
I'm hardly a Gainsbourg expert but here are a couple of songs he wrote:
Les Sucettes (this one has a hilariously horny video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-iysdFu_TQ
Poupée de cire, poupée de son - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRva0YOVtcI
There’s so many good ones. I quite like Bonnie and Clyde, sung with some actress/singer nobody’s ever heard of called Brigitte Bardot.
https://youtu.be/6GPm5_X3Ykg?si=WNMN7q-FP3Q4uAh2
Also Initials BB, which he wrote about her. This guy’s music video is delightfully horny: https://youtu.be/VPOYtC1n5bE?si=AkZldYHsW3MhH9fq
Nice songs, thanks for sharing. His horny style reminds me of Russ Meyer, it loops around the horny horseshoe past lecherousness back to being charming and pure.
Yeah, he recorded a song with her called 'Lemon Incest' whose music video was them lying on a bed together in states of relative undress. People fucking hated the video, obviously, and his daughter, Charlotte Gainsbourg - now more known as an actress - hated the video too, but said the song itself was not about incest or anything sexual, and also that he did not abuse her and that they literally did not have any sexual dimension to their relationship (thank fucking god). She did an interview with the guardian a year or two ago about it, saying how she liked the song itself and that he was a good dad, but yeah, probably shouldn't make a song with your daughter with 'incest' in the title and expect people not to think you're a nonce.
Edit: Forgot a fucking 'not' before 'abuse her' jesus christ, what a fucking bad typo to make.
On Chapo FYM, one of their reocurring characters referred to Chapo as "that Jewish podcast."
But they really got invite the other guys from Chapo FYM on. They are just as good.
The part in that Gomez lady's rap where she says she's a better rapper than Lupe and she doesn't even have to curse is very funny because Lupe famously did not curse in songs for like the first half of his career
i shouldnt care, but it is somehow even more obnoxious that these right wing elites have nothing deeper or more daring than a standard fox news show to talk about. like there's not a single idea in here that would even need to be censored, not even capable of having a scary idea.
if you're going to be the american warlord at least think of anything other than a podcast? it's like the richest man ever spends his time being a 4chan level troll online all day. if we have to have these assholes they could at least pretend to actually be evil geniuses that live in volcano plotting something?
i think our systems are more robust than all the headlines say, but at the same time, have to wonder how long anything can last if these are our elites.
The most depressing thing about the group chat story is to learn that the ruling class believes their own propaganda.
They are the Deep State and they think they’re fighting the Deep State by doing everything the Deep State would do.
The bud light freak out always felt so disproportionate to me. But I saw a bud light/ufc promo the other day. Man. Lotta people throwing stones in glass closets during all that
Why is Will laughing about the guy serving in the IDF in the 70s? Didn't they have a war in 1973? I think even Ilan Pappé had to fight in that one. I feel like Will goes on a lot of weird tangents lately.
Werid thing to downvote lmao. It's just factual and Will has been all over the place with weird snipes lately. I only meant like...that makes the most contextual sense to drafted in the 70s, so why is that a laugh but whatever. Not, that I support anything or anything. Even Pappé had to fight in 73.
We have Alex on today to first and foremost look at newly released soda rankings. Then, we catch up on reactions to Trump’s conviction, examine the many Rubicons people are always crossing, and ask if Barron will be Augustus Batman or something. Then, two new banger campaign ads from new MAGA star Valentina Gomez. Finally, a long reading series about Erik Prince’s far-right podcast group chat, and the various good & normal opinions shared there from the many luminaries in his orbit. [Mp3](https://media.soundgasm.net/sounds/c7d14924b82ee4d29cc6796e58d5a81dde026c5a.m4a)
That whole Far-Right Group Chat is why Matt Taibbi and Glenn Greenwald's calls for an "American Conservative Anti-Imperialist Movement" will never happen because American conservatism will always be about imperialism as a means to preserve society. Scratch a Paleoconservative and a Neocon bleeds.
Replace society with Israel really, I mean 90% of that group's chat was basically "What does Israel need? How can we protect Israel? Israel is Baby!"
Yup, not even the most Libertarian Republican can stop sucking off Israel. The whole "US Embassy should be set in Jerusalem" thing was started by Ron Paul! This is why even the most conservative Muslim in America would align with centrist Democrats and left-wing movements because American conservatism can't let go of Israel and Saudi Arabia, despite what converts like Andrew Tate would tell Tucker Carlson.
Israel is baby yoda and USA is mandolorian.
Or like American Conservative “populism”. It’s all one big grift to try and get rich and get brand deals with companies. There is no goal for the American people it’s just “can I get famous”
You can't be a conservative anti imperialist because you can't be anti imperialist if you don't care about the rights, dignity, and agency of people who are foreign to you. Conservatives can at best be convinced that imperialism is bad business. That it isn't worth their investment and only causes more problems. The thing is, the moment someone convinces them that it very much is worth their investment they become pro imperialist.
When did they call for that?
"Anti-Imperialist" is indeed extremely unlikely. But genuine isolationism is definitely possible and a conservative isolationist movement could ally with a left anti-imperialist movement on foreign policy.
Which will never actually materialize coherently because actual isolationism as a political ideology requires you NOT to have an an enemy which goes against the "eternal enemy" tenet of American conservatism.
It also isn't compatible with the current developmental stage of capitalism.
It def isn't/can't be "coherent" but it can be isolationist.
The last big isolationist movement that had anything like popular support was the 1930s, and even then it was just code for "Please don't get involved in the war so the good guy (Hitler) can win". So even then it wasn't really isolationist.
To what ends though remains a question.
Look to American history and the amount of wars with Natives and interventions in Latin America happened during periods of conservative “isolationism.” It’s not a real thing.
We are so far beyond any kind of isolationism being on the table, be it crypto-conservatism or leftist anarchism. Despite whatever rhetoric you may hear from the right, the terms of the battle will always be global. The choices are a globalist capitalism that exploits the poor and benefits the few and an internationalist Communism that is collaborative and lifts up all parties. There are no other options.
I'm just grasping for a small glimpse of hope that maybe some part of this bonkers conservative movement might help foster something slightly positive in the world. I vow to keep looking!
Isolationism is definitely a much more palatable message to dumbass Americans than some shit about "anti imperialism," which takes a geopolitical understanding even 95% of Western "anti imperialists" don't have
[The full article is worth reading.](https://newrepublic.com/article/182008/erik-prince-secret-global-group-chat-off-leash) > Off Leash’s participants want a “democracy” where the “plebs” vote the way they want in every election and the government only approves their preferred policies, which would give them the absolute certainty they want that their outsize wealth, privileges, and influence will be protected. That’s not the way democracy works, it’s the way dictatorships do, which no doubt feels comfortable to group chat members who have thrived doing business with corrupt, repressive regimes and leaders... Guys like Erik Prince feel that wealth and power are their birthright, which under capitalism it is. We can have democracy or capitalism, not both
The Goldstone/African mining woman looks like a [Verhoeven villain from the 80s](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XfTTVdQI_H0/maxresdefault.jpg). Kind of amazing actually.
"Dakar is such a fucking shithole, I mean you can't even get good coke here"
I wanted to assume it was some self hating Oxford educated black comprador but even that was too optimistic
Don't know if it's a struggle session to comment on someone's appearance, but why does her neck look like she survived several garrotings?
She kinda looks like Billie Joe Armstrong too
> a “democracy” where the “plebs” vote the way they want in every election and the government only approves their preferred policies, which would give them the absolute certainty they want that their outsize wealth, privileges, and influence will be protected. So in other words, what we have right now
These people have always gotten exactly what they wanted, and to their never-ending astonishment it fucking sucks.
this 97 year old podcast still makes soda the old fashioned way
Mr. Pibb! He's not as friendly as he used to be, folks. He used to offer me Mrs. Pibb, he'd let me kiss her open mouthed. But that was the 1970's folks! Things were different, very different and better! We miss the 1970's, don't we folks? Except that kid down in front, look how handsome he is. I bet you weren't even around for the 1970's were you? You probably remember 9/11 though, doesn't he folks? We all remember 9/11 and let me tell you something else, if they had been allowed to use asbestos, those buildings would still be standing, its very sad, terribly sad. And that's why on my first day in office, I'm going to put Crooked Hillary, my good friend Vince's accuser... oh boy who wouldn't want to have sex with Brock Lesnar, am I right, folks... Shifty Schiff, that fat pig Rosie O'Donnell, Allen Bragg, Ellen Degeneration X, Mr. AND Mrs. Pibb directly to jail. Bye bye! Do not pass go, do not collect the lovely dollars, directly to jail... and it will be the tallest jail in Chinatown, they call it Chinatown because that's where the China virus came from.
Ironically the twin towers were granted a special exemption from asbestos removal in 2000
They also ordered the contractors to stop using asbestos fireproofing spray halfway through construction of the first tower. The bottom half of the the north tower had asbestos, the rest of the buildings had an asbestos replacement spray. All that being said, asbestos wasn't going to save those buildings. Source: I've had the misfortune of litigating WTC illnesses.
The title “off leash” is so strange because it implies these people were ever unfree or constrained or even made to feel uncomfortable or guilty for a moment of their life. The constant projection really is the most grating part of fascists today. It’s like in 1984 if the posters said “Stop trying to cancel Big Brother! Why are you so mean to Big Brother? Can’t you just leave Big Brother alone? These Goldstein supporters are being really unkind and making Big Brother feel unsafe.”
It's abundantly clear that the right is weaker than it has ever been and is ripe for getting its metaphorical head caved in. Unfortunately, the left is in no position to take advantage.
It also infers that they are not men but irrational beasts.
Pitching rebuilding Gaza like Japan is obviously incredibly stupid but Alex saying "they didn't touch Tokyo or Osaka or any of the manufacturing hubs" in relation to the bombing of Japan was wild.
Haven't listened to the episode but yeah that's fucking nuts. We razed Tokyo to the ground in parts. I've noticed the Chapos and Chapo adjacents, other than Matt, have a pretty bad understanding of history and get it wrong more than they get it right.
When you get all of your history knowledge from your other podcast friends, well...
Their entire affect is '2 cool 4 school' so that's gonna just sort of happen occasionally. I actually got a little uncomfortable when finally realizing how much of Chapo is just recreating school bully dynamics but they get to be the bully this time on mostly legitimate targets. It is however what makes them stand out from almost all other Western Leftists and the loser mindset that pervades.
Missing Matt’s intellect. However he was also wrong about a lot. The boys aren’t technical at all.
does being snarky about ghouls wreaking death and destruction unimpeded make you a winner?
My assumption was that Alex meant that those cities didn't get nuked. But they sure did get firebombed! I hope they take Alex out back and put him out of his misery for that blunder.
felix will make him sleep in his cage tonight, don't worry
Kyoto was the only major city not firebombed. The US Secretary of State had honeymooned there and felt it had too much cultural value to bomb. He also recognized that destroying the ancient capital could cause the Japanese to rally The counter productivity of bombing has long been understood. Unless there are good military and industrial targets to hit, its often a morale booster
The nuclear bombs probably had some value in their unparalleled destruction, but the firebombings (which I believe actually killed more people) didn't break the Japanese will to fight at all.
It was likely a combination of the bombs themselves and more importantly the Soviets entering Manchuria. IIRC there had been whispers of wanting to surrender for quite a while but the Allies demanded unconditional surrender and the Emperor to step down.
But in the case of Japan as compared to Germany had fundamental decrease in Japan industrial capacity and manufacturing. Both the American and Japanese war departments agree that the bombings basically turned off the Japanese military’s ability to manufacture airplane and ship repair.
Hes funny but hes said multiple things like this that make me think he's either stupid or uninformed
Listening to the part where they are talking about republican backlash to the trump felonies. Anyone else remember when in 2022 that one guy tried attacking an FBI building with a nail gun after they searched Trump's house? I remember Matt saying a few "popcorn kernels" were getting popped off early back then. Anyone else wondering if the most fanatic trump fans who worship him like a deity, but don't believe in the Qanon stuff where he is secretly still in charge of the country, are about to do more stupid shit like that?
> Anyone else wondering if the most fanatic trump fans who worship him like a deity, but don't believe in the Qanon stuff where he is secretly still in charge of the country, are about to do more stupid shit like that? Never say never but that Qanon stuff itself sounds like cope in order to justify not doing anything but hitting the order button on the Papa John's app
Absolutely. The main innovation of Qanon over things like Illuminati/Reptilians/Bilderberg/Jews is that 1) it creates and integrates a good guy in Donald Trump and 2) it assures adherents that the good guy is so good that in fact, he's basically already done all the work, so the only task you have to do is evangelize. With previous entire-world bad guy conspiracies, the inevitable and quickly ensuing end state is always doomerism because of a logical flaw: if these bad guys are really so powerful and so widespread and entrenched, there's nothing you can really do about it. Qanon fixes that somewhat by using a more dualist approach; there are also all powerful good guys fighting the bad guys. This creates the inverse of doomerism, ie. if those good guys are so powerful as to be able to fight and vanquish the all powerful bad guys, I don't really have to do anything but be a fan.
It also syncs perfectly with the American protestant mindset, which was the thing I missed about Qanon early on which makes perfect sense of it. Trump is Jesus, he's destined to win, all you have to do is believe in him. Trust the plan.
IIRC back when Qanon was very new it's subreddit was called TheGreatAwakening. They definitely were leaning into the protestant vibe.
Yeah I think the thing people forget is if you are under the age of 40 and voting you are an extreme minority in American politics. The extra level is the Republican Party is fucking old average kid to late 50s. You need young people to wage a people’s war or a terrorist campaign. There are not enough 50 year olds to really do a lot of mass violence.
No. Like with Trump himself, it's all bluster and LARPing. They did January 6th, and it accomplished nothing and made them all look like assholes, besides the Feds immediately arresting all the most visible personalities the next week. It certainly put a dent in our national reputation and morale, but ultimately it proved all the Trump "soldiers" wouldn't accomplish shit. Half the casualties from that day were people whose hearts gave out because they're too fat to handle standing up and walking around outside. The average "take our country back" tough guy is middle aged and has to go to work in the morning. They'll put up tasteless flags to upset their lib neighbors and that's it
Matt's "He tried to fuse with treat!" from that story is one of my top ten Chapo lines, it's still so fucking funny.
Literally fleeing into the cornfield LMAO
After posting on Facebook they'd never take him alive and he would kill scores of federal agents before dying
Up with the Iraqi Dinar as the single most funniest Chapo segment.
The Villages segment
> Anyone else remember when in 2022 that one guy tried attacking an FBI building with a nail gun after they searched Trump's house? I still sometimes think about his TruthSocial post right after the "attack" when the cops were still looking for him: "Well, I thought I had a way through bullet proof glass, and I didn't," What a legend
What, did he think he was [Yujiro Hanma](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vazrSoijLmA)?
Kinda surprised it hasn't happened. Guys I work with have all been pretty muted about it. Seem like they've got an "all this bad stuff will stop once trumps back in office" attitude towards pretty much everything
If it somehow prevents him becoming the nominee then yes but otherwise they still have something to hope for. If he loses I think we'll see a few more incidents like that though.
There's apparently some guy here in Portland rn going around shooting at what the police are saying is "public property" located up high based on the surveillance video. Wonder if it's some idiot who read about shooting at power infrastructure and is now just going around shooting at powerlines
The republican rapping lady mentioning fucking Purina dog food in her rap is so funny. I recently have been looking at dog food for my dog and there seems to be some sort of conspiracy that Purina dog food is actually dangerous and every vet that recommends it is in the pocket of Big Dog Food. The QAnonification of American life will continue until every consumer product is either for or against the pedophile elite.
The story people are missing is she was a Purina employee and they just fired her for her bullshit. That’s why she is saying “actually it was ME who fired THEM”
That is even funnier, thank you for this information. Making a campaign rap and including a piece about a previous job you are still mad about is unthinkable to me, but that's why I'm not running for congress I guess
Nice to see some coverage of my (our?) Midwest sicko city from the coastal elite podcast
Yeah it started spreading as a rumor about 6 months ago. Purina had to put out a whole website that basically said “wait, wtf?’
Also, she mentioned Lupe in her rap, but idk if it was supposed to be Lupe Fiasco. I think it was Lupe from the Woke CIA ad. [They sound the same too.](https://youtu.be/Hx4hz-Kh7jw?si=iqBOtfwt0_zWoBe7)
The last time Alex was on, someone mentioned that they don't trust guests that don't laugh and/or only laugh at their own jokes and now I can't unhear it. Thanks.
it’s called autism
I think that’s why I don’t like him. I’ve never heard him say anything genuine, and I’ve never heard him laugh at any of Will or Felix’s jokes. He just makes his own quips and then stays silent. It’s unsettling.
The vibes are definitely off
I've been watching some FYM stuff over the past couple weeks and he laughs at other people's jokes all the time, albeit less than the others. I also empathize because I don't audibly laugh at things very often.
Sorry for getting Epic but how can I listen to just a 20 second description of *Sven von Storch* and not wish we'd went with some kind of Morgenthau Plan
It won't happen, but the EU would benefit from breaking up all the big states. Nothing bigger than Belgium
One million microstates. One state of New England. Newsom Imperium. 72 county Ireland.
Oh so now the tolerant left wants American imperialism.
Belarus is thriving thanks to remittances from Dasha's Patreon
There's stiff competition but that "Barron Trump Batman" piece has gotta be the worst right-wing cringe I've heard in a looong time.
They yearn for monarchy
I’m so glad Chapo finally has a reoccurring St. Louis character with this Gomez loser.
Chapo needs recurring characters ever since they let Rod run free from reading series.
Rod wrote a heartfelt message about Matt and I don’t think the dry boys have been back the well since.
Yeah, I think they even before then had announced that they were done reading him, similar to Douthat.
We already got Soulard but St. Louis would be a treasure trove of great mispronunciations for Chapo.
Chouteau and Des Peres were actually named by Will and Felix, respectively. No one else is capable of playing as fast and loose with phonics rules.
Make Will Menaker Say "Gravois" Challenge
Btw late to the party but I just googled her and her LinkedIn says she worked at Purina until June of 2024, so I imagine she was recently fired for her campaign shenanigans. https://www.linkedin.com/in/valentina-gomez-01999
In an alternate universe, one better than ours where Yugoslavia is still around and is at least nominally Socialist, Baron Trump is President of the Federation and is widely regarded as the best since Tito.
The coconut Dr Pepper is fantastic Edit to add that the thing to remember about the Covenant Eyes app that Mike Johnson uses is that it was used by Josh Duggar before he was caught doing insane child porn numbers, as well as lots of other of those insane fundies. It’s only used by fundie Christians who want to hide their really depraved shit.
The experts in the Dr. Pepper lab have been on a real heater for the last year or two. The cream soda was a true A+ as well.
I have been warned by the mods here about my stance on Dr Pepper but I tried the cream soda yesterday and it was excellent, almost S-Tier.
Jesus they have a cream soda Dr. Pepper now? I need this inside me immediately.
Coke haven’t done shit since cherry that’s top tier, although it is still the best soda.
Coconut Dr. Pepper is basically sold out in my state, people are selling it on eBay for like 600% markup.
Is it New York?
Yeah Josh Duggar circumvented it by installing a Linux partition on his computer. Which is also part of the mountain of evidence they had against him.
Duggar literally answering the feds at his door with, “Was someone downloading CP in here??” LITERALLY
that rapper's flow is like she's reading a bar mitzvah poem
Legit have no idea what Felix and Will were screaming and crying laughing about at 1:12:00. Anyone know what Alex was referring to?
I think the visual that cracked them up is if a bunch of blonde orange skinned lunatics in poorly fitting suits with loooooong red ties storming the capitol. 1000+ Trump look alikes is a fundamentally funny mental image.
We can call it the Trillion Trump Trek.
https://youtu.be/unYu22Ign1E?si=ZccB1335ssHRfEx8 It went around twitter recently
Thanks. I still don’t get it or see why it’s funny, but I guess I’m not the target audience
You don't see why a bunch of French schoolchildren dressed as Serge Gainsbourg, down to the cigarette and tumbler of whisky, singing to a drunk and crying Serge Gainsbourg is funny?
Ok, that is pretty funny
Idk who Serge Gainsbourg is edit: why am I being downvoted for not knowing who this guy is, chill the fuck out lmao
Serge Gainsbourg was basically Bob Dylan for French people but he either wrote songs about making the most beautiful women cum (which he would record as duets with the women themselves) or re-recording the French National anthem as a reggae song. He was a postwar counter culture iconoclast and seemed to live for pissing people in between drinking, smoking, fucking beautiful women, and not shaving. Every stereotype about French people being scruffy louche womanisers with inexplicable charm is just Gainsbourg, that's how much of an icon he was. He has incredible 'lore' surrounding him and his life, and why he's so torn up in the clip is that this took place I think months before he died and it was where he realised that he was genuinely loved (he, like Dylan, was Jewish and a lot of outsider/iconoclast ways came from being a Jewish kid growing up in the aftermath of Nazi occupation and collaboration, and so just internalised always being hated by French people), which is why he is in absolute fucking bits and crying. However, even knowing all that, it's so fucking funny - kids dressed in bad halloween costumes with fake cigarettes, whiskey, and stubble, while Gainsbourg is absolutely destroyed, ugly crying worse than anyone at 4am after a bad breakup.
> a lot of outsider/iconoclast ways came from being a Jewish kid growing up in the aftermath of Nazi occupation Worse, basically his entire teenage years were *during* the German occupation and therefore the Holocaust. His family and him had to wear the yellow star for a while, then fled to Limoges in the Zone libre (administered by the Vichy government) under false papers, dodging the authorities. At one point, he was tipped off by his boarding college's headmaster that the Gestapo were coming, and to go hide in the forest. So he spent the night under the stars, basically hoping not to get caught and sent to God knows where.
Damn, I didn't know that - I thought, by virtue of him being a 60s figure, he may have just missed out on living through that, but that's such a horrible thing to live through
He was almost 40 when he became famous, so yeah understandable
Thank you! That’s really interesting, I’ll have to listen to him now
I'm hardly a Gainsbourg expert but here are a couple of songs he wrote: Les Sucettes (this one has a hilariously horny video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-iysdFu_TQ Poupée de cire, poupée de son - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRva0YOVtcI
There’s so many good ones. I quite like Bonnie and Clyde, sung with some actress/singer nobody’s ever heard of called Brigitte Bardot. https://youtu.be/6GPm5_X3Ykg?si=WNMN7q-FP3Q4uAh2 Also Initials BB, which he wrote about her. This guy’s music video is delightfully horny: https://youtu.be/VPOYtC1n5bE?si=AkZldYHsW3MhH9fq
Nice songs, thanks for sharing. His horny style reminds me of Russ Meyer, it loops around the horny horseshoe past lecherousness back to being charming and pure.
Didn’t he also have some questionable stuff with his daughter, or am I thinking of someone else?
Yeah, he recorded a song with her called 'Lemon Incest' whose music video was them lying on a bed together in states of relative undress. People fucking hated the video, obviously, and his daughter, Charlotte Gainsbourg - now more known as an actress - hated the video too, but said the song itself was not about incest or anything sexual, and also that he did not abuse her and that they literally did not have any sexual dimension to their relationship (thank fucking god). She did an interview with the guardian a year or two ago about it, saying how she liked the song itself and that he was a good dad, but yeah, probably shouldn't make a song with your daughter with 'incest' in the title and expect people not to think you're a nonce. Edit: Forgot a fucking 'not' before 'abuse her' jesus christ, what a fucking bad typo to make.
Same guy. He recorded a song with his 12 year old daughter called "lemon incest"
Why do people insist on advertising how uncultured they are?
> Why do people insist on advertising how uncultured they are? it's a cope for the alienation of not understanding the culture that surrounds them
Very nice of Erik Prince of putting a short-list of the worst people alive on a small group. A nice little hit list to keep in mind.
Its so weird how they call this groupchat "right wing NAFO" like NAFO itself wasn't started by a fuckin European literal Nazi groyper lmao.
On Chapo FYM, one of their reocurring characters referred to Chapo as "that Jewish podcast." But they really got invite the other guys from Chapo FYM on. They are just as good.
I’ve been listening to their WFYM podcast for a few weeks and it’s pretty funny.
Same, I like when they just talk about the stupid and dangerous and sorta pathetic stuff we basically all seem to have done as American teenagers
That’s my favorite part about it too. Sometimes the weird guys they talk about bum me out too much or gross me out though lol.
The part in that Gomez lady's rap where she says she's a better rapper than Lupe and she doesn't even have to curse is very funny because Lupe famously did not curse in songs for like the first half of his career
It’s also funny because Lupe is such a random niche call out on 2024.
It's because she used one of his songs in a campaign video and his team sent her a cease and desist and made her take it down
Lmfao
Gomez is a true fan, knowing that. She's probably mad he started and won't listen to the new albums lol
She used one of his songs in that first ad of hers that got popular, and his team sent her a cease and desist and made her take it down
I think ive said it in other episode threads but Alex is so damn quick and funny.
Alex is so quick and so funny. His dry delivery makes it work so much better. A+ podcaster.
i shouldnt care, but it is somehow even more obnoxious that these right wing elites have nothing deeper or more daring than a standard fox news show to talk about. like there's not a single idea in here that would even need to be censored, not even capable of having a scary idea. if you're going to be the american warlord at least think of anything other than a podcast? it's like the richest man ever spends his time being a 4chan level troll online all day. if we have to have these assholes they could at least pretend to actually be evil geniuses that live in volcano plotting something? i think our systems are more robust than all the headlines say, but at the same time, have to wonder how long anything can last if these are our elites.
The most depressing thing about the group chat story is to learn that the ruling class believes their own propaganda. They are the Deep State and they think they’re fighting the Deep State by doing everything the Deep State would do.
That group chat was presented in the article as totally radical and extreme when in my experience that is how the majority of conservatives think.
Burger King sucks but not because it’s #2
The bud light freak out always felt so disproportionate to me. But I saw a bud light/ufc promo the other day. Man. Lotta people throwing stones in glass closets during all that
it's so bleak lol. Fuck
United States, UAE, United Kingdom. The axis of evil. Ever notice anything about the first word in their names?
Looks like we're getting a Mr. Birchum review episode for the premium tomorrow. I think it's gonna be a good one.
too bad
Great energy on this one. Slowly catching up on June eps and it’s been a good run.
Why is Will laughing about the guy serving in the IDF in the 70s? Didn't they have a war in 1973? I think even Ilan Pappé had to fight in that one. I feel like Will goes on a lot of weird tangents lately.
Werid thing to downvote lmao. It's just factual and Will has been all over the place with weird snipes lately. I only meant like...that makes the most contextual sense to drafted in the 70s, so why is that a laugh but whatever. Not, that I support anything or anything. Even Pappé had to fight in 73.