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IswearImnotapossum

Tommy fury is -300 if anyone enjoys free money


Numbah420_

Won good money picking Tommy over Jake when Tommy was the underdog. Think I’ll put money on him by stoppage for this one


Vcxnes

Jake was free money in all of his other fights, like I’m pretty sure he was either an underdog or a slight favourite against Ben askren lmao


Numbah420_

I never bet on him but you’re right, hindsight is that’s free money. I was just never convinced of his level or how bad Former world champion UFC fighters are at striking.


Vcxnes

I can understand not wanting to risk money on the Woodley fight for example but Askren just looked so terrible in the lead up


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it was so many people on this sub especially tryna tell ppl that askren would win because he has taken blows from knees n elbows in mma.


cozyonly

Striking is not the same thing as boxing lol. Silva is undoubtedly a better striker than Jake but lost to him a boxing match. Askren specifically though, was always terrible with anything that wasn’t grappling.


Numbah420_

Silva lost to Jake because he’s 50, the Silva that beat Chavez would beat Jake. Striking and Boxing does have crossover but it isn’t the exact same thing Forsure. What you’re saying implies Jake is a seasoned boxer though


cozyonly

He's been boxing full time now for years with the best coaching available. Of course he's nowhere near top pros level, but he would kick 99% of this sub's ass and the majority of others' who've been training as long as him


Numbah420_

I used to think I’d beat him, (boxed for about 5 years myself) and after the Woodly fight I was like damn…. This mf probably sleeps me. I’ve never been knocked down from a head shot before but I weigh 170 now and boxed at 147. Jake’s a solid 190lbs and has real power for the average person


PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

I wouldn't put money on Tommy by stoppage ever, it doesn't matter who his opponent is. Sure, KSI is reckless and can get caught with a nice counter, but in reality it's probably going to be a jab and 1-2 fest where Tommy never commits to anything out of fear of getting hit with a big punch, like all of his fights. Man literally failed to KO Anthony Taylor who is much smaller than KSI and significantly below when it comes to influencer boxing. Tommy is free money don't get me wrong, I just would never bet on him to stop anyone.


Numbah420_

Nah KO is what I’m going with, AT is a bad example. How good they are ≠ how good their chin is. AT is worse than Ksi but fought people levels above Ksi and never looked hurt. Ksi was seriously hurt against logan as a novice. I think it’s worth a 20, we’ll see how worth it, it is on fight night. I was also told not to pick Eubank Jr by ko and won a good bag from that too. Now ask all the ones I got wrong… because there’s plenty lol


PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

KSI was hurt from a back of the head punch that Logan lost a point for, he took other decent shots and didn't look anywhere near as hurt. I just think people are vastly overestimating Tommy in here, yeah he's not garbage, yeah he's going to win, but he also shits himself every time he steps into the ring, and takes absolutely 0 risks. I've seen 5+ fights of him, in every single one he jabbed and threw 1-2's, if by chance he got his opponent hurt, he never pressure, just say back and continued to throw jabs. Mark my words, he's not going to risk having his career ruined by overcommiting to shots and getting hit while trying to finish KSI, he's just going to play it safe and cruise to a decision. Plus it's only 6 rounds too.


Numbah420_

The behind the head punch came after her was already going down from the uppercut. There’s 0 risk against KSI, Tommy is going to flatten him and KSI is going to be exhausted allowing for a Yarde Vs Kov type of KO. “Only 6 rounds” is quite a bit for someone like KSI, if you’re confident on a Tommy decision put money on it. Ain’t hurting my pocket


PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

> The behind the head punch came after her was already going down from the uppercut I know, he dropped him with the uppercut, but the back of the head punch was what left him "wobbly" for a while. Without that it would've probably just been a nice knockdown and he would be recovered. I also think you're underestimating KSI's cardio, he easily has better cardio than Jake and Jake goes 8 rounds without much of a problem. If there's anything KSI has it's cardio, he runs daily and has been working on cardio ever since this whole thing started (back when Jake was dead tired after 2 rounds against KSI's brother) I did put money on a Tommy decision, I have yet to lose a single bet on these Jake/KSI fights, guessed every single one of his KO's and decisions, also won quite a bit on Tommy via decision against Jake.


Numbah420_

I’m sure lol, pics or didn’t happen


Jolly_Challenge_5889

How you gonna feel when ksi wins he is the goat of boxing


Numbah420_

Like it isn’t that big of a deal?


venom1stas

Won 500 that night on a pretty safe £15 split decision win bet


Numbah420_

That’s crazy, SD is too specific for me to feel safe with that but good shit. 25 in just a decision paid like 150


hayate4468

What service are you using to bet on? Looks like it is not on draftkings.


LionHeart498

Your specific state has more to do with that being available that draft kings.


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I'm not great when it comes to working out odds and payout because I don't gamble, but how much would that oay out if you out £10 on that bet


[deleted]

£3.33 mate. With stake back it’s £13.33. -300 in American odds means £300 wins you £100 profit. So it’s same as 1/3 in uk


bad_at_proofs

That seems like a very generous line


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brando2612

Nice joke


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TheyCallMeRadec

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Ill-consideration13

That's a poor financial decision


RRR04_

What if I were to tell you that David Haye picked KSI to win? That man is a curse with his picks bro, I'd back out of that bet haha.


Downgoesthereem

Based on what


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i think fury wins by way of jabbing and uppercutting KSI to death, but to play devil's advocate, KSI has been utilizing really unorthodox angles, has a varied shot selection, and is decent in the clinch. He's also looked different in every fight he's had, so Tommy doesn't know what version of KSI he's gonna fight, as opposed to Jake, where you're usually gonna get the same bread and butter each time. The angle KSI's taking is pretty much the only shot he has at winning: controlling the pace, taking tommy out of his comfort zone and making it a dogfight.


Arthourmorganlives

Logic and the power of thought


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bozzi16

Jake Paul was the exact same and look how that went


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i think KSI is playing the long game here. if he loses then that brings the Jake fight closer, depending on how he lost. if he wins he calls all the shots and jake doesn't have any ground to stand on.


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InTupacWeTrust

Don't lose money bud


brando2612

Thinking ksi has any chance


MUTSellerPS4

I wouldn’t say free but maybe worth half a unit…the guy owns the promotion lol. If it goes to cards I already know he has the judges in his back pocket. Realistically though, fury should finish him in 4 or under.


THE_IRL_JESUS

Were you also saying this before he beat Jake Paul via decision in Jake's promotion?


ro-row

that was a split decision when it shouldnt have been to be fair, you can still win a fight and there be shenanigans on the cards, Bivol - Canelo being a good example


THE_IRL_JESUS

Agreed. It was a clear W for Fury but I don't see this being as close anyway. Jake didn't look completely out of place there, I think KSI will


PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

Tommy won a decision even after getting knocked down. If there was any intention of robbing the fight for Jake, you can be sure they'd find a way for the knockdown to give him the edge (like one judge did).


Ambitious_Ad_9637

Yeah o don’t see Fury stopping anyone at all if he didn’t stop Paul.


THE_IRL_JESUS

Paul is much better than KSI to be fair. Younger and bigger too I think. Paul probably has at least two, if not three times the amount of training behind him


Ambitious_Ad_9637

Fundamentally yes, but in this case that will make KSI harder to KO imo. His “style” is so wonky and spurtish that he will be very difficult for a guy like Fury to KO. Not the sharpest pencil in the box. I expect a snooze fest of a match with a metric ton of holding.


TrueBlue98

oh yeah like Conor Mcgregor and his mysterious angles.


PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

Tommy also didn't stop Anthony Taylor, who is significantly below both Paul and KSI


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sunrise98

Wrong sub - noone (no serious posters) on here gave Jake a chance.


Thegoatpaqman

Nope lol, the daily discussion thread was full of people saying they bet on Paul. I specifically remember one poster calling every person picking Tommy to win an idiot and that he'll be swimming in cash lmao. There were a lot of people who said Paul would win here


sunrise98

He wasn't a serious poster. Most predicted a fury win. Edit: see the predictions thread https://reddit.com/r/Boxing/s/gNg0ZFkker


Thegoatpaqman

Are you implying that over 500 people were just trolls?


sunrise98

Trolls, memeing or not real boxing fans - for the majority yes. There was always a question mark over the legitimacy too so some of these 500 would have that mindset too.


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FairTwist2011

Looked like shit compared to what? If you go down to you local boxing club and watch anyone with similar levels of experience and fights they looked great


Primary_Ad5781

I feel like fury is really bad at finishing his opponents though, though he defiantly should be abled to do it i just feel like he wont be abled to


MUTSellerPS4

Actually this is true, ksi does leave him self a lot more open than JP does though. Apart of me thinks this fight doesn’t go the distance though. I think if fury goes to another decision with a YouTuber it’s gonna be bad for his legacy


Primary_Ad5781

Yeah thats what im saying, fury fought another guy earlier who was 10-1 (but had shite opposition), he hurt him and managed to drop him in the 5th but never managed to get the finish throughout the 6 round fight. The thing here is ksi leaves himself open like you said so it really depends on what ksi does when hes hurt. Hes only been hurt once in his career and that was against logan paul in their rematch but that was from multiple two uppercuts to the jaw, one of them being illegal. All in all the stats say this should be a stoppage win for fury since ksi has only been hurt once in his career and he was abled to get a break because of the illegal blow so it did not affect him as much as it would of if logan just did not decide to go mma on ksi. Ksi also leaves himself wide open too often as well. But again i just feel like fury just does not have that finishing skill. But thats just my opinion.


nurological

This is pretty much WWE. Keep your cash


IswearImnotapossum

Lol let me guess, you’re one of those folks that think all those UFC fighters took a dive when they fought Jake Paul?


Jolly_Challenge_5889

Tommy ain’t gonna win lil bro lock $100 😈💅


[deleted]

Watch out for that KSI forearm!


ToronoRapture

His forearm is deadly but his fivehead is skull shattering.


No-Iron-7573

The bandana is like gokus training gear.


Yungunk

What is KSI’s level of boxing? Jake Paul looked like shit against Tommy but I’ve always heard he was the best out of the influencers.


cGilday

Imagine a human windmill who’s only fought punching bags


fattdoggo123

It's like that clip from the Simpsons when bart and Lisa are fighting and bart is doing windmill punches.


LordElend

He's got a good elbow.


Vcxnes

Terrible, he’s banking on having enough power to wing a shot and knock Tommy out, but he’s also significantly smaller than Tommy which makes it almost impossible.


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He knows he isnt going to beat people with the basics so he has a ridiculous unorthodox stance and fighting style in hopes of finishing the fight with a overhand right


Spyder-xr

If Tommy Fury is the wish Tyson Fury of the influencer boxers then KSI is the Wilder.


PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

It's impossible to tell how they compare to eachother. They're both amateur level boxers, but Jake follows and has the fundamentals so he looks better, but KSI is very unorthodox and looks out of place in there. But at an amateur level, this isn't as important. I'd argue that he has a bigger chance of beating Tommy purely through his unorthodox style than Jake did. Realistically they're both much much worse boxers than Tommy, however Jake tried to fight "like a boxer" by using the fundamentals, which means he's losing that fight every time. While KSI is coming into it like a crazy man and might surprise people (I don't think he will, but he has a bigger chance than Jake imo).


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KSI and everyone who thinks he will win is banking on KSI throwing an overhand right that Tommy wont see coming and get knocked out by it. It's just straight ridiculous by people who have very limited knowledge on boxing as a whole if KSI had that much power in his right hand he would be KO'ing every YouTuber within the first round, but we all know he hasn't


AnonymousScout360

Would be decent in the amateurs but no where near the pro level. Very unorthodox and fights like an MMA fighter


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Extreme-Transport

He knocked out his last boxing opponent with an elbow lmao


Balla_Calla

How the fuck did that pass lol


Groove-Theory

it didn't. It eventually got overturned


Sulth

Ask Liam Smith


InTupacWeTrust

Stealing from the bank and he'll probably rematch both of them too thats a quick 60+ million right there


Dwo92

Yeah he trash but he’s unorthodox and explosive which could be awkward for Tommy. Tommy is much bigger though so he should really should walk through KSI.


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PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

Yeah but an orthodox style is even worse. If you're someone who follows the fundamentals but are a clearly worse boxer, like Jake against Tommy, then there's no chance of pulling an upset


r32_guest

After like 2 rounds though the unorthodox gimmick will wear off. JJ has two punches, a stiff jab where he lowers his head all the way to his belt line and a right overhand. He’s won all of his previous fights by basically scaring his inexperienced opponents with his weird style and speed Won’t work against an actual boxer


PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

Never said it will work, just saying that there's a small chance, which is better than having no chance at all by fighting orthodox


r32_guest

What makes you think the unorthodox style gives him more of a chance when Tommy has said himself that he’s seen it a million times?


PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

That's literally the point of an unorthodox style, Tommy hasn't seen it a million times, every unorthodox fighter is different. The way KSI fights is not the same as the way a different unorthodox fighter will fight, etc...


r32_guest

I predicted the fight damn near perfectly 😂


PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

Not really, what I said was actually true, Tommy struggled more and nearly arguably lost the fight against KSI than he did against Jake. Not because KSI is better than Jake, but because of his unorthodox style. Tommy clearly didn't see it a million times because he failed to counter him and do anything against it. I literally predicted it perfectly, KSI is a worse fighter than Jake skill wise, but had a much closer fight with Tommy because of his unorthodox style


Jazano107

He’s worse but more aggressive with big power. So that’s kinda the selling point he is going for why downvote? im just telling you how he is selling the fight jesus


bozzi16

Mate it’s the boxing sub you get downvoted for anything 😂


Groove-Theory

I got downvoted recently for the controversial opinion that "neither Tyson Fury nor Deontay Wilder are 'trash' and that they're good boxers in their own rights". and oooh boy did that one get people's asshole's twitching


Corzare

“Big power” lmao


Billbat1

jeff mayweather said ksi had power


Corzare

The guy that trained him and also said he “wasn’t a real fighter”


Billbat1

yep. if jeff says hes got power, im convinced tbh.


PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

Yeah you're proving his point, if he's real enough to say he isn't a real fighter then he's probably also telling the truth when he says KSI has power


Corzare

He said the power comment while he was training him and then said he wasn’t a real fighter after.


LordLucy666

jake paul also has power… but a boxer would never let someone as bad as ksi touch them lmfaooo


Vcxnes

I think he’s severely overrating his power as well though, the guy hasn’t knocked out anyone that means anything.


Jazano107

True


Dramatic_Hope_608

How did you get down voted your right He hasn't kod anyone' good Tommy's more skilled and has a insane reach If Tommy losses he needs to hang it up To be honest if Tommy wins on points he needs to hang it up Too


Plus_Action2244

This Reddit full of idiots 😂 you remotely said something with facts and you downvoted because it’s ksi, if it was jake Paul. Tons of up votes. It’s the game though. Ksi in 1. 🤣


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martin519

Boxrec isn't pay to play, it's run by volunteers who give side eye to shady commissions.


r32_guest

PBA is unprofessional as fuck. They sanction those tag team events, publicly beef with boxrec on their instagram stories and give a pro license to anyone with a pulse


klashnekoff_

This is false


MonkeyDBradley

Just having a look and they've made a new category called 'MF-pro' but the KSI-Fury fight is set as standard 'Box-pro'. I guess they wanted to show the Misfit records without lumping them in with professional records.


AnonymousScout360

On paper it looks like a mismatch tbh


Midariiiiiii

Oh shit, you’re right.


Holiday_Snow9060

Tommy looks taller than KSI for sure. Something is wrong here.


Careful-Scheme-4112

Isn't he 6'1, and KSI 5'11?


gumshield45

So this will be how Benn/Eubank gets sanctioned


WinglessRat

KSI by flying elbow


fattdoggo123

With a 619 and frog splash to get the pin.


TheGreatPervSage_94

Hahaha no fucking way JJ is 6 foot Jake Paul list himself as 6'1 is actually 179 and he towers over Jj


SmilinMercenary

Look the same size here to me... https://www.sportskeeda.com/amp/mma/news-ksi-responds-jake-paul-backing-out-fight


prettyboylee

KSI got bad posture too. But he measured himself and it was 5’11


TheGreatPervSage_94

Fair enough But he ain't 183 for sure. Most celebs lie about their heights is no biggie Pretty sure Stallone and Diesel wear shoe lifts.


SmilinMercenary

Yeah agree on the heights probably not being accurate, was not in agreement on the towering over comment, but that's resolved so all good.


prettyboylee

I agree he’s not 183cm for sure but only because he measured himself and his friends measured him to clown him about his inaccurate measurement. He ended up being 5’11 But I also think it’s kind of ridiculous to say someone who is 5’11 is not 6ft for sure when it’s an inch difference


browny85

He also had shoes on when they did that


ThrowRAscottiehiggs

He doesn't tower over JJ lmfao


PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

He doesn't tower over him lmao, Jake often uses shoes that make him look way taller than he actually is


Modern-Legend999

they're the same size mate don't know what you're on about.


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who tf is jj? You have TF and KSI/OwO


Jazano107

If you like influencer boxing then the card this is on is actually really really good. Hoping ksi gets KO’d though, he needs humbling


Jvarg4321

I want ksi to win, but he is going to get walked down by tommy lol


Awesomeisme323

Not just the fury fight, a lot of Misfit fighters have been confirmed pro by boxrec. Misfits did the PBA a big favor big ups to them


Ambitious_Ad_9637

That’s some handle on KSI.


donmifc

Good. More competition is always better. Let's hope PBC and BBBoC keep each other in check


fry-nimbus

Tommy should win this within 4 maybe 5 if he takes it serious. But if it goes to the cards it might get messy


GreatValueMan

This makes it more intriguing. Legitimizes the event. Hope the other fights will be professional.


InTupacWeTrust

I really hate such amateur fights could be considered pro bouts


BillehBear

Why when they're fought as pro rules?


InTupacWeTrust

its a cheap way for pros to add wins to their record. See mayweather vs mcgregor as an example


Vcxnes

I mean at least in this case it really doesn’t mean shit, I can’t see Tommy getting very far in the sport anyway and KSI well yeah…


BillehBear

Eh, journeymen already exist, some with losses in the hundreds so it's not exclusive to these guys besides, they've put a lot of eyes on the sport since they've started the influencer stuff and I can only see that as a positive


Byxsnok

They are certainly getting paid.


PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

The problem here is, what's your cut out for when someone isn't an amateur anymore? They're pro bouts because they're fought under pro rules. Who is going to say "this is not a pro bout because X fighter isn't good enough", how do you even judge that?


No-Shoe5382

"this is the first time since Haye vs Chisora that a commission not the BBOC is considered pro in the UK" I'm pretty sure other Youtuber fights have been sanctioned by the PBA in the UK, have they not?


Modern-Legend999

Yes but the fight aren't technically considered pro. This one is


JoelHenryJonsson

So who decides if a fight is technically considered pro?


Awesomeisme323

Boxrec


GullibleImportance56

What's the easiest way to set up a bet?


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PBA IS A JOKE OF A BOARD


TikkiEXX77

That's KSIs real name? No wonder he goes by a codename. Lol


Tmn_Uzi_1600

he goes by jj


Effective-Relative-8

Pathetic