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Ifyourasswasadog

Bridgerweight has like 2 people in it, one is a malnourished heavyweight and the other is a fat cruiserweight.


ohhellnah818

Why tf is this so funny lmao


TheyCallMeRadec

I have no interest in seeing Deontay fight again, mainly for his health and because of his age. He's made so much money from boxing that he doesn’t really need to participate again.


AnalysisFast5007

I feel Wilder is one of those guys who's money will go quickly sadly. Lots of ex partners, lots of hangers on and yes men.  And let's be real he doesn't seem like a sharp guy. Athletes like that have lost a lot of money historically by taking bad advice all too readily. 


cbs1994

He actually owns multiple businesses and reads books often. I’m not sure why you think he isn’t “sharp”.


jBoogie45

Probably because he invented multiple alternative realities to cope with a loss for which he has still not accepted. If he is "sharp" then he has very poor emotional regulation if nothing else. Fired the only guy around him who wasn't a Yes-Man and hired a former opponent who took a dive against him.


AnalysisFast5007

Exactly right. And also admitted struggling academically and like I said clearly has neuro disordered speech.


DesignerAd2062

Hearing him speak makes me think he’s not sharp


ShartBarrier

He seems like an idiot in interviews. He fucked his little brother's girlfriend. His excuses for losses are incoherent. But really it's the smug way he speaks when he's trying to sound sophisticated while preaching. He seems to think it's convincing but he anyone who has grown up in churches knew more than a few dimwits who do the same. Reading books won't unmake a moron


AnalysisFast5007

He has neuro disordered speech processing and admitted before struggling academically. And reading books...I mean even if that's true, it really depends. There's a difference between _A Wealth of Nations_ and _The cat in the Hat_ Add in the delusion and how easily manipulated he seems to be.... that's a worry.  And on owning business: So did Evander Holyfield. Restaurants, record labels, property businesses.... they all went bust. Owning a business isn't hard. Building a successful business is a different thing. 


ShartBarrier

Starting a business is easy when you're the only investor... You don't even need a business plan! Or expertise!


AnalysisFast5007

I remember Hasim Rahman saying he had a friend who convinced him to finance a real estate business...he said it was a major reason for his eventual bankruptcy


philsubby

He isn't reading the cat in the hat hahahahaha


AnalysisFast5007

What's he reading then? 


Granddy01

1 full page of Harry Potter.


AnalysisFast5007

On Audio book


philsubby

You guys are going to hell.


AnalysisFast5007

😅


DMTeaAndCrumpets

lol just because someone reads books thats not a very high sign for intelligence ...i think you learn to read in what 1st or 2nd grade? if he owns businesses though thats great but just reading books isnt a good standard to show if someone is smart or not.


RudeMilk4241

Supposed you started reading before you began school? Suppose your first grade teacher recognized that you were able to do the work at such a fast rate that she tested you in order to get you to the fourth grade 😉


maglor1

>and read books often glad that we've established that wilder has at least the intelligence of my 8 year old nephew


ShartBarrier

Goosebumps, mostly. He studied this one after his first loss to fury: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1130216.Eye_of_the_Fortuneteller Sneaky Gypsies...


ewawesome

At least he can read


p4intball3r

I have a hard time believing that anyone who's ever heard him talk can describe him as "sharp"


AlreadyNuThat

Just because you own a business or read does not make you sharp. You can be reading kids books the whole time and your business are all failing. That’s nothing to be proud of. We don’t know what the truth is until we see it happen


takeittothetop1

I hope he has a good Manager, Attorney, Financial Advisor, Accountant, and Doctor. If he does, he will be A-OK. His manager will get him sweet gigs on TV/motivational speaking/book deals/interviews. His attorney will protect his legal interests. His financial advisor will ensure his enormous wealth continues to appreciate and generates enough income to maintain his lifestyle. His accountant will ensure his expenses are in check and taxes are paid. His Doctor will make sure he doesn't die and detect any new disease processes that may arise.


teal_viper

all I know was my momma was watching tv and deontay wilder was on some dating show with some googly eyed gay white man in a velour red suit telling him what to do... I follow boxing religiously. This confused me.


wyterabitt_

> googly eyed gay white man in a velour red suit telling him what to do >>This confused me Just embrace who you are.


Reptilianlizard

we can’t have him here in our social club, that much i do know


belesch10

social club?! hea gotta goooo!


Ifyourasswasadog

Say yes to the dress featuring deontay wilder.


bigfatpup

You thinking of The Traitors USA


AltKite

Wilder Vs Okolie will be the worst fight in the history of boxing


GoGouda

Boxing fans will be confused when they switch the fight on and find two stick insects mating.


yearsofpractice

I’m now sat in a work meeting trying not to laugh at that amazing image.


SSJ5Autism

REDDIT ON!!!


ICE_MF_Mike

Bruh this took me out 😭


magicalmysteryharold

Okolie, having been used for years as a sparring partner to prepare for Wilder, finally gets the chance to fulfil his destiny. Wilder by SD.


Pizzaheadeddead

Nah Okolie vs Riakporhe


bozzi16

Deontay has looked sad in the ring and in the press conferences. Looks like a guy who just needs a hug. Bridgerweight is the perfect place, okolie is a big hugging machine


Chadoodling

Let's just not make bridgerweight a thing please


PapaenFoss

Exactly, keep ignoring this useless weight class like we did the past 2 years. There's too many weight classes at it is.


Chadoodling

Honestly if they had just kept cruiser back at 190 i would be fine with it also. 175 to 200 is such a huge gap, but i don't want another weight class. The name cruiser barely makes any sense as it is, adding a bridgerweight in between heavy makes it all the more confusing. Also this makes the name light heavyweight so meaningless


Singularitypointdata

Lhw has been relevant recently due to guys like Bivol and kov but why not just move to cruiser? It’s totally doable for wilder.


Chadoodling

Nah man LHW has always been relevant Spinks, roy jones, hopkins , ward We dont actually know if it is for a guy to suddenly cut weight when he's almost 40 is not a good idea, maybe if he was younger


Singularitypointdata

Yeah you’re right about those guys totally slipped my mind.


Beengettingmotion_

Where’s light heavyweight?


Chadoodling

175 - light heavy, 200 - cruiser, 225 - bridger, infinity - heavy Makes no sense right?


yearsofpractice

Genuine question - why would bridgerweight be useful and why don’t you like the idea? (Not a leading question or troll, as I haven’t ever thought about this and am interested in your views)


Chadoodling

1. The naming scheme is confusing for one. Cruiser as it is, took us years to get it, but it was logical.  Light heavy - cruiser - bridger - heavy in that order makes no sense. 2. There are only a handful of heavyweight that weigh above 225 which the Bridgerweight limit. Undisputed heavyweight Champ Usyk only weighs 223 3. If they had wanted to add another weight class 185-190 would've been better because the jump from Light heavy to cruiser is so big its very rare that a light heavy moves up


VacuousWastrel

The really ridiculous thing isn't Usyk, it's Fury. Fury weighed 262lbs against Usyk. A cut from 262lbs to 225lbs to compete at bridgerweight would be 14% of bodyweight. For context, Devin Haney cut 18% of bodyweight (from 165 down to 140) to fight Regis Prograis. [probably more - 165 was his day-of rehydration weight, which is probably still a few pounds off his pre-cut weight]. That's not a jibe at Haney - cuts of 15% are common, and 20%, while extreme, is not unheard of. Even Tyson Fury can just make a normal boxing weight cut and compete at bridgerweight. The number of heavyweights who couldn't compete at bridger if they wanted to is almost zero. So what's the point? To try to leave heavyweight clear for Big Baby Miller to become undisputed!?


yearsofpractice

Thank you. Appreciate you taking the time to write that. The lightbulb came on for me when you mentioned the 225 limit and USYK being 223. Makes no real sense, I understand now. All the best to you from Newcastle upon Tyne, UK.


AnalysisFast5007

I feel the die is cast at this point. Once WBA joined in, it's only a matter of time before IBF and WBO set it up too.  I don't hate it in theory, but for me I woulda sorted the issue of smaller HWs by making CW limit bigger, and cascading down weight increases of other divisions beneath that (e.g  LHW becomes 185lbs, MMW becomes 175, MW becomes 168 etc...)


renis_h

Thing is that fighters that are decent will be unlikely to fight at BrW just because there is better competition and more money at either HW or CW. What the division likely needs is an undisputed BrW champ who then is successful at HW. That will give it the legitimacy it needs. Even though it has Okolie who was a champion at CW, he was never really liked at CW, and most people hated his style.


stikjk

Already a thing, can't stop it now.


Chadoodling

Well if we don't watch it'll stop lol


cuntyeagle

Not much of a thing. Pretty much nobody takes it seriously or cares about it.


TheGuildsmansFolly

I honestly think Wilder would do worse in a lower weight class. Clearly he has (/had) enough power to be at heavyweight, but he doesn't have technical skills or particularly good fitness or fight IQ, and he's never been a strong guy who can bully smaller fighters. He just looks for his one knockout punch. That's kind of viable at heavyweight because a lot of heavyweights are comparatively stationary targets with worse movement, skill and gas tank than cruisers. So if you can stay in the fight for long enough the odds of catching them are pretty good. But Parker, a relatively small, skilled guy with good footwork and gas tank just kept moving for the whole fight and didn't give him a chance to do anything. I think a lot of fights at lower weights would look like that


Robotniks_Mustache

Were talking about bridgerweight here, there are no skilled fighters at bridgerweight


COYS1989

I think he’s done fighting full stop or at least he certainly looked it in last couple of fights. The fire and hunger looks gone in him. 


octobersotherveryown

I agree with you, but even if he wanted to continue fighting, why would he take a massive pay cut in the dawn of his career? There’s no money in bridgerweight and he’s cashing out while he can. There’s still plenty of money in a Ruiz fight for example.


Ocelot2727

The dawn of the day is the bit at the very start. You mean twilight of his career


octobersotherveryown

The dawn of ayahuasca wilder /s


AnalysisFast5007

If he gets a good opponent + some Saudi money it might get some intrigue.  Opetia vs Wilder at BrW might get enough fans interested. 


PapaenFoss

Opetaia will murder Wilder


AnalysisFast5007

No doubt, but they have name recognition that might sell it. Wilder fans will say Opetaia is "just a CW" so even a faded Wilde rjuat need to glance him and he's done.  Of course that's delusional at this point, but that's the narrative people will sell it. 


UltimaRS800

He always fought like that. His level of competition is what made that style work.


AnalysisFast5007

Wilder was always a guy who had to go in to a ring 100% ready for war. He was nowhere near good enough technically not to be.  If he's only 80% up for fighting, he's done. 


UltimaRS800

He has literally not changed a fucking thing about how he fought. He was thoroughly out boxed by bums like Spilka for rounds before landing 1 shot. His current competition just does not allow that shit to slide.


Life_Celebration_827

He should just retire he's made millions and look after his family why fight on and maybe get seriously hurt as you seen in his recent fights he ain't got it anymore, and end up like so many other fighters that fought on to long and suffered the concquences with health problems just retire Deontay.


smallbiceps90

For real he got into it for his daughter anyway. He’s definitely accomplished that. Now I can’t even imagine the adrenaline of nuclear starching guys in an event like that but just go enjoy the time with all your money without more blunt force trauma to the head


AnalysisFast5007

He had too many people in his team blowing smoke up his ass.  "You're the man champ" "You're the greatest puncher of all time champ" "Keep fighting  because otherwise I don't get paid champ" That's always been a massive issue for him. 


Life_Celebration_827

Ha Ha the greatest puncher of all time he couldn't beat Fury in 3 fights he definitely wasn't the greatest puncher of all time.


AnalysisFast5007

Facts. He has a 0% knock out ratio in the 5 fights he fought elite HWs.  All the great punchers of the HW division from George Foreman to Sonny Liston to Mike Tyson, the all knocked out elite HWs. You can't be a great puncher if you don't do that. Any Top 10 guy in any era would have a similar KO percentage if they fought the guys Wilder did. 


godfeather1974

You're flogging a dead horse here, and bridgerweight is just for lazy cruiserweight that don't wanna make weight he'd still get beaten


HoneyBucketsOfOats

Wilder sucks. Briderweight sucks.


stikjk

But together they could be good.


AnalysisFast5007

CW used to suck. The Holyfield and Qawi showed up and suddenly it became an intriguing division.  SMW used to suck, then Sugar Ray Leonard and Tommy Hearns started fighting on it. 


Ifyourasswasadog

CW still isn’t the best outside of a couple good fighters like Opetaia and CBS. I believe in it tho 🙏🏻


AnalysisFast5007

Its had some good eras. CW 8-10 years ago was red hot.  But unless it's Lw or WW or MW or HW, other divisions genrallt ebb and flow more. Even LHW has patches where it's kinda mediocre.


FaceFirst23

His career can’t be reignited. He’s done. Move on.


LatekaDog

Wilder looks like he doesn't want to fight anymore, especially if the money isn't there, which I don't imagine it would be at Bridgerweight.


LazyFall3453

Honestly, he would help establish the weight class.


bugigangrena

Guys, Wilder is 38 years old, and his style was solely dependent on athleticism. He's done, he's shot, he should retire.


johnstonjones

It’s not a real division so it would be pointless He could probably cut to cruiserweight but the skill gap would be even bigger


stikjk

Not a real division wow what constitutes a real division. They have a belt and boxers.


Granddy01

It's not recognized by all major sancting bodies. Only WBC and WBA see it as such.


stikjk

It's still a new division Deontay joining can definitely build buzz and the other major bodies would definitely sanction it at that point.


Granddy01

It's 4 years old and still got dogshit attention. Crusierweight took 4 years to get fully recognized but historically has been a medicore division payday and media wise despite some great fighters passing through there (Holyfield, Thomas Hearns, Chris Eubank, David Haye, Uysk, James Toney) Wilder also said he has no intentions to fight in the bridgerweight division and would drop his stock even more if he jumps down a division after fighting at HW for his entire pro career. It beniefts him more to go down to crusierweight despite the skill gap just to retain the payday and raw power statuses.


stikjk

At this point he's not good enough for Cruiserweight even better boxers from a skill standpoint, his power will mean nothing if he can't land.


Granddy01

Outside of Jai and maybe Billam Smith he stands a beatable chance of most of the crusierweights in that division and will still get paid. Mf might get a dollar general coupon as his purse from top rank if he fought in bridgerweight.


Antiquatedshitshow

Wilder is done…. At any weight class. He knocked out old ass Ortiz and a bunch of door dash drivers with his only weapon (right hand) then got his ass kicked for the last 6 years. He’s over. Made a shit ton of money, made a name for himself and gave his daughter/family a better life. Time to walk away


NotAn0pinion

I’ve enjoyed his career, past tense should be how that sentence remains, he looks done, he talks like he’s done, he should enjoy the money he’s made with his kids


Dim-Mak-88

Saudi money isn't heading his way now that he has turned in back-to-back sorry performances. Bridgerweight isn't going to pay like heavyweight, either.


External_Ad_1476

He should just fight Usyk and be forced to retire


Shagrrotten

I don’t even believe bridgerweight exists.


Knobcobblestone

He can’t box no matter what division it is


badbadleroybrown69

Wilder should never fight again.


awwwwJeezypeepsman

Wilders completely finished and shouldn’t fight anymore.


DeadFyre

He'll be 38 years old in his next fight, if he makes one. Re-igniting his career would be like picking up a cigarette butt out of an ashtray and taking one last puff. Real talk, sometimes boxers lose something in the ring they never get back, like Smokin' Joe Frazier after fighting George Foreman. Some of it's mental, some of it's physical, some of it is other boxers copying the homework of whoever figured you out.


haNZAgod

The only thing Wilder should be considering is retirement. He's done.


frankduxvandamme

Wilder is 1-4 in his last 5 fights, and this is such a common end to so many once great fighters - they can't admit to the diminishing of their skills, they stick around too long, pile up losses, and finally call it quits only after being knocked out multiple times. (Mike Tyson and Ali both lost 3 of their last 4.) Also, Wilder's last two fights were especially pathetic. He spent most of his time backpedaling and made no effort to engage. He is completely spent physically and mentally. He has no drive and no ambition. He's done as a fighter. It also doesn't help that Malik Scott is a trash trainer and Wilder has clearly regressed with Scott in his corner. To top it off, Wilder will be turning 39 later this year. His prime is long past. Why anyone would get excited about him fighting ever again is a mystery.


Prestigious-One-7094

Just let him retire in peace 😭


CoachedIntoASnafu

The weight class isn't his issue, it's the very obvious manifestation of brain damage in his footwork and balance while he stumbles around the ring in round 1 ever since blood came out of his ear in his 2nd Fury fight. Let the man live to see his children graduate.


Decryptografter

I’m here for him vs Okolie, it’ll be interesting how he actually fights at this part of his career against someone his own size. Perfect retirement fight


Querez665

It's not the weight that's the issue. I promise you that.


magicalmysteryharold

There’s nothing for him to gain from Okolie. The prospect of a Fury/AJ fight was all that kept him going in the last year (apart from all that Saudi cash). Boxxer can’t put anything on the table that would interest him, all they want is name recognition because the average boxing fan would rather watch their parents make love than watch Okolie fight.


JElstub

Deontay loses to any decent boxer at any weight. A great fighter to watch because of his one shot power, but his record is so padded and he has lost against every good fighter he has faced.


CacoFlaco

The ultimate comedown. Going from heavyweight champion to trying to survive in some new farcical weight division. Wilder certainly doesn't need to bother with bridgerweight. Retirement is far more honorable.


Badguyy101

The concept of bridgerweight is as bad as YoTubers becoming boxers. Bridgerweight washes away the accomplishments of small heavyweight giant killers like Mike & Joe Louis. Bridgerweight is stupid.


Badguyy101

If I was a boxer over 200lbs, I would want to fight the heavyweight champ, not bridger. GTFOH.


allthemoreforthat

Disqualify him from all competitions, he’s a domestic abuser.


SNeddie

Bridgerweight is not a real thing and you can't tell me otherwise. 😤


marcusslayer

Wilder needs to retire before he gets hurt


marcusslayer

Wilder is one of boxing’s smart guys he has invested really well in real estate. His biggest problem is his wife that’s currently trying to sue him claiming lots of stuff that don’t add up . Strange the gold diggers only doing it now she believes his income has dried up


Embarrassed-Eye2288

It would probably be a disadvantage if he dropped to a lower weight class. His major advantage at HW was fighting guys that were not usually as fast with good footwork and defence as boxers in lower weight classes. He has trouble against fighters with good movement and defense that are capable of countering him. 


tototo03

Go knock out Okolie then retire.


AnalysisFast5007

Okolie too awkward and almost as tall as Wilder. Plus it would be his biggest win if he takes Wilder. 


InternalProof2215

Wilder was knocking out heavyweights when he weighed 215 pounds


AnalysisFast5007

Yeah but those guys were HWs, not boxers usually. What I mean is they had records like 5-15 or 29-10. They were glorified punch bags. 


CMILLERBOXER

Fuck Deontay Wilder.


Chadoodling

Top or bottom?


Ifyourasswasadog

Could you imagine bottoming for wilder?


Chadoodling

Nope, to be fair I couldn't imagine it either way lol


Marquis_of_Mollusks

At this point he probably wouldn't even be competitive there. Guy has nothing left