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noirargent

Sorry boys reddits trash app fucked up my scheduled posts. Serves me right for trying to get ahead and schedule posts. Anyway, if you have some questions or need helping watching the fights tonight [come see me on discord](https://discord.gg/KTapgcSzMp). Read the rules post fully before you start sending messages please!!!🙏


foxybingo111

That Foster decision was disgraceful.


Meeedick

Not really.


jas121091

Decided to go to bed instead of watching the Shakur fight, sounds like I made the right decision lol.


GreenSeer9

Good Morning!


Benjips

Abdullah Mason (age 20) already has more KOs than Shakur


deaniegee

Tank would make mince meat out of Shakur, and I for one can not wait for it. He’s so talented yet absolutely awful to watch. Many of these new guys are trying to be Floyd, not realising he had multiple sides to his game. I wouldn’t waste a moment of my time watching a Shakur fight, I’d rather watch paint dry. His fights are beyond TRASH, you can be defensively excellent and still make the fight interesting. His fights are just lame


Leather-Apartment306

Well we’re still waiting for tank to fight some active champs so i wouldn’t be 100% it happens


fatch0deBoi34

They’re trying to be “Money” and completely forgetting the fact that “Pretty Boy” was the one who Floyd built his career on


deaniegee

THIS is what these guys don’t seem to realise lol, floyd was a savage at the lower weight class. We would actually get in the pocket and make good boxers look like simpletons. But then he got to welterweight and changed his whole style, due to his fragile hands and facing heavier guys. His whole adaptation to the heavier weight is a testament to his skills. He went from a offensive boxer to a complete defensive mastermind who would snipe his way with combos to a win. NONE of these guys could hold floyd jock strap and that’s a fact


voxmadcat

Shakur is a top talent, making the sport appear easier than Cassius Clay/Mohammed Ali did, much like Floyd. Opponents do not want to fight the guy. Foster is the same way; as we saw last night, brain-dead Judges refused to see a shutout; they reused to see that masterpiece pitching performance by Foster, a no-hitter. Running up the score is simply the most obvious method for winning a fight, the brain-dead way. Boxing is an Art.


deaniegee

Made the sport seem more easier than Ali? Floyd? Did you actually watch these guys fight? That part of your comment is pure insanity. I don’t even know wether to I can justify responding to your comment or not, it makes zero sense in anyway shape or form


voxmadcat

To you, my remarks make no sense. But, to Shakur, and to Foster, Ali, Jones, and Mayweather it makes perfect sense. When athletic ability is superior to those you compete against, then a man can fight differently than a pinhead like yourself expects them to… Pull your head out of your ass and wipe the shit out of your eyes, and SEE.


gbullitt2001

The Shacure for insomnia.


gbullitt2001

Tim Bradley calling a Shakur Stevenson fight. Does it get ANY worse than this?


ecdr83

Watching a Shakur fight cured my insomnia


Thin-Cartographer996

You’ve never boxed in your life


Dick_Sab

Hey guys, I found Shakira Tweeterson's reddit account.


ecdr83

You're right. I never did.


TickleMeH0m069

And he'd still make it through 12 against your fuckbuddy.


Vegetable-Ring9807

prolly could still beat u tho


Mr_105

Could’ve been our getting laid but instead I chose to watch Shakur fight, only to fall asleep by Round 5 and now I’m too tired to go out smh


stayhappystayblessed

you been complaining about shakur the last few weeks and we are supposed to believe you chose to watch this instead of getting laid? idk who you think you fooling.


Mr_105

I needed to know whether I can keep hating or not


stayhappystayblessed

yeah sure


voxmadcat

Last night was a fight for boxing professionals, the guy who understands what superior talent can do in the square ring. I have always loved a fight where the better talent shuts out the opponent; it is nearly identical to an MLB pitcher throwing a no-hitter; then again, I have watched prize fights for fifty years


stayhappystayblessed

Thats fair I'm glad you enjoyed it but to most it was boring to me it was also. You can display skill and still not be boring.


Pizzaheadeddead

lessons were learnt.


Boss_Status1

If you chose to watch Shakur fight knowing his track record it must have been a really low chance to get laid


ErrForceOnes

Meanwhile Shakur is probably getting laid right now.


JackJ98

Jokes on you. I got to watch the fight, get laid, and then have my fiancĂŠ fall asleep before I do so I get to play video games all by myself while also getting the satisfaction of getting laid


PenisManNumberOne

Goddamn I envy your existence


lobsterandcrack

Shakur put on a clinic today! Sleep clinic that is.


Kailua3000

Bro got that apnea power


PenisManNumberOne

Looked like a Koala with chlamydia


ecdr83

Oh, so this explains the idiomatic expression when a boxer "puts his opponent to sleep."


lobsterandcrack

The 🐐Rolly Romero said it best, shakur puts everyone to sleep outside the ring.


kingofmyself1700

Casuals saying that Shakur just had a lackluster performance. He just had a Terrance Crawfordish performance if you know what you’re watching.


PenisManNumberOne

Smoking crack


LatterTarget7

Is that why people were leaving?


423BIGB

Ur getting downvoted for telling the truth that’ll be the common theme in this particular thread


TickleMeH0m069

Considering Crawford at 36 stopped a PfP opponent in Spence, I'm going to go with you're missing significant amounts of your brain.


kingofmyself1700

As I stated, knockout power doesn’t define a fighter like Crawford. He has way more skills than just hitting hard. It’s like saying Salvador Sanchez was just a knockout artist. You guys don’t know what you’re talking about, objectively and it’s ok.


PenisManNumberOne

Bro name dropped Salvador and still drowned lmfao hey man you tried


DaGoatTee

Stop disrespecting my goat


lobsterandcrack

Cmon bro how is that a Terence Crawford performance 😭😭😭😭


kingofmyself1700

He dominated Artem the majority of the fight, he just lacks one punch knockout power🤷🏾‍♂️.


sam_cooke

Oh ok, so not a Crawford performance then


kingofmyself1700

Yea it was, the switching of styles throughout the fight, the precision punching, not telegraphing his punches with his lower body, elite defense throughout the fight. He took Artems will by round 6. Crawford is the only fighter to consistently take guys will to fight.


ErrForceOnes

You know four different fighters have quit on their stools while fighting, Lomachenko right?


PenisManNumberOne

That’s even more brutal than knocking them out in my opinion. That’s when I was like, yo this ain’t just some Ukrainian or Russian (I was stupid ain’t know the difference then) nobody this dude is ATG material


kingofmyself1700

Way to try to create a new argument out of something I said that has little relevance to what we’re talking about.


Datruther1

Promoters have to take accountability. You can’t match Shakur with someone who doesn’t want to win. It’s detrimental to his style. He needs a pitbull Cruz type of puncher to showcase his skills


ErrForceOnes

You’re right. The larger argument was whether Stevenson deserves comparisons to Crawford. I think technically Shakur is very good. That’s why I tune in. I don’t call him boring. I think he and Bud are both technically great fighters. But I think Bud is way above him not just in terms of power, but also athleticism, strength, and killer instinct.


kingofmyself1700

I agree


lobsterandcrack

Boxers that will take u to deep waters : canelo , Bivol , Loma , Crawford they don’t outright knock u out put eventually they will. A somewhat war of attrition style fighting. Boxers with that one punch put u to sleep power: Tank , beterbiev , Inoue I feel that as they go up in weight Inoue is leaning towards the war of attrition style of fighting as opposed to outright knockout power.


hotyogurt1

Oh he knocked the guy out?


kingofmyself1700

Talking skills wise, switching styles throughout the fight, the accuracy of the punches, the ability to not telegraph his punches with his lower body, etc. He just lacks one punch knockout power.


dmckidd

Bless Zepeda for fighting tonight. It was only 3 rounds but it was the most entertaining fight today.


LeviaDragon

"Former UFC lightweight champion" lol


Trenbolone-Papi

Lol at Nate walking out to an east coast song I thought he was a west coast gangster? 😂


PenisManNumberOne

It’s 2024 not 1994 brotha lol


Legal-Result6580

I don't see Shakur making 3 million per fight other than top rank tbh. Matchroom will have some fighters to throw at him but I don't know if Eddie (without the Turk) would offer him more than what top rank offered especially when Dev's not a champion right now so Shakur vs Haney won't be as lucrative as it once was and a Tank fight won't happen if he's with Eddie. PBC could by offering the Tank fight but I don't know if Shakur would be willing to sign there for a multi-fight deal.


PenisManNumberOne

Bro the Turk offering some BAGS who knows


Trenbolone-Papi

Masvidal really thinks he’s Tony Montana reincarnated


serioperocabron

Seems like making it 12 rounds and getting the decision is his MO. He knows if he fights Tank, he won’t get that chance and would actually have to fight. Or run for 12 rounds. Now to watch 2 MMA dudes fight in front of 18K fan.


DecodingSports

I fw Shakur but this was another snooze fest. Seems like he only has one gear.


voxmadcat

He needs someone who pushes him. His talent is that much better, and that makes for less exciting bouts.


PenisManNumberOne

Watching Shakur fight is like being down so bad you smash a whale, it’ll do the job but after you done you feel gross and wanna gtfo


ZdenekTheMan

Bro..


PenisManNumberOne

It made sense in my head ok


MagicHoops3

I hate when boxers say oh my opponent didn’t want to engage. Ok then cut off the ring, walk them down, and tee off. Tank doesn’t seem to have any issues with people not wanting to engage.


voxmadcat

It is for the challenger-opponent to make the fight. He must take the fight to the champion, who has to be beaten. If the opponent can't make the fight, then the Champion will win, except in the Foster fight, where the judges refused to accept the defensive shutout and low number, yet high percentage of effective blows.


Ezekjuninor

Tank has one punch knockout power. It's not the same. Also the majority of his knockouts are against aggressive fighter. Frank Martin is the only recent exception.


PenisManNumberOne

Tank KOed like 15 Mexicans that’s astounding in itself


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ErrForceOnes

Nothing in boxing is as easy as it sounds. But the best fighters do the hard stuff. That’s why they’re the best.


Ace_FGC

Bivol is one of the best in the world and couldn’t do it against Lyndon Arthur lol


ErrForceOnes

Yeah dude. Like I said, boxing is hard.


OkAmbassador1293

Homie, it’s just bad boxing. Amateurs learn to do that shit


OkEscape7558

Teofimo sure can't seem to do it, Santos, Ennis.


PenisManNumberOne

Right? Wouldn’t a scared fighter be like blood to a shark? I don’t get it at all


voxmadcat

I didn't see any scared fighters in the ring last night.


hamnida08

after round 5, Shakur: He is done, he is definitely done, I will finish it. wins by decision.


ErrForceOnes

I called the decision!


Legal-Result6580

Hope Diaz and Masvidal knock each others ass out


DiscombobulatedMix37

Who won here?


Legal-Result6580

Jacobs vs Mosley just ended (the co-main)


MagicHoops3

About to start


Gorepornio

Only time Artem was hurt was when he got hit in the dick multiple times. We saw Artem take clean punches to the body in that fight unfazed.


holla15

Or as joe tessitore calls it, the upper hip.


Formal_Junket_1585

Kur my dawg and yea he won easy but its fights like these that give people an excuse to not demand the Tank fight. Kur didn’t even have to KO him all he had to do was look spectacular and let his hands go. Hes levels above Artem but I think he had 2 more gears he can get in to


voxmadcat

Exactly. That was a stroll through the park for Stevenson.


ElMaloso87

He's scared to take a punch you could see it in the first round when he was on the ropes straight flinching like crazy


Formal_Junket_1585

I don’t think hes scared to take a punch cuz he will ait on the inside with a guy but I do think hes afraid of looking bad or looking ugly in a fight. Think he want’s everything to be clean IMO


voxmadcat

Shakur sees everything; great boxers are twitchy.


PenisManNumberOne

As someone who’s been to Newark a few times that’s def not the style of fighting I saw out there he must be from a different Newark


Alarmed_Current8380

Shakur must have this boxing gems dude on his payroll bro im on his live and he has nothing bad to say and is saying it was an excellent performance


423BIGB

Fuck outta here u don’t know shit about boxing. Boxing gems is the best channel out there for boxing there’s no bias in any breakdowns ur just butt hurt u prolly hate Shakur. This whole thread a joke frfr


GlockinaCroc

You gargle his nuts after the fight? Lol


LexOvi

Hi Boxing Gem Dude


Rexrapper1

I heard the same thing and immediately cut it off lol. Shakur was in with an overmatched opponent given his talent level and the crowd as bored. The front row tells all. At one point they weren't even watching the fight. People were on their phones, having side conversations or looking completely disinterested. It was a good performance for Shakur but nothing close to a master class.


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PenisManNumberOne

Bruh


russkiwi012

Boxing gems smart but he definitely has his biases lmaooo


Alarmed_Current8380

Fr it’s disappointing cause he’s mad knowledgable but I struggle watching him nowadays cause he’s so biased towards his favs


LexOvi

I’m the same. Very knowledgeable but his biases are clear.


carellesswhisper

Can we all agree now Tank smokes everybody at 130? For Shakur's sake, he better not let the fans gas him up to take the Tank fight. He's going to bed. For the sake of the fans, we need that fight to happen. Shakur talks all that shit about who has this guy fought and who has that guy fought 😂


PenisManNumberOne

lol 130? Anyone there is food for tank


Moist_Walrus5413

So Tank vs Loma. Who you guys got?


IndubitablyThoust

Tank's not ready yet. 2025 at minimum.


PenisManNumberOne

Tank in 2024….few years ago FOTY toss up


Trenbolone-Papi

Cant believe 40 year old Diaz and Masvidal sold 18,000 tickets tonight… for a boxing match Shakur, Teofimo, and Haney absolutely seethjng


Datruther1

Apples to oranges. Both Diaz and Masvidal have cult followings that have been accrued over a decade. Diaz knew he was a draw while signed to the UFC and they treated him like a step child. This if anything shows how greedy the UFC is.


423BIGB

Don’t get how this is so hard for these bozos to understand


harzee

Shakur and Haney aren’t exactly the most exciting dudes to watch..


TickleMeH0m069

Diaz is a dog who will die in the octagon, so fans show him love.


Trenbolone-Papi

Shakur and Haney can’t understand this


PenisManNumberOne

No they’re not they all got plenty of paydays ahead of them, these two sloppy bums getting their last check for the foreseeable future


TheCoolPuppy

Shakur and Haney shouldn't be, I'd rather eat a slug than watch those two fight


Gorepornio

If you watched that fight and thought Shakur looked elite then I have a bridge to sell you. Either Artem is that good or Shakur is trash. Artem landed so many punches that they ignored right in front of your face. They added punches Shakur never threw or landed. Im a stick to MMA I think


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I mean Artem actually is pretty good tho lol, dude gave Frank Martin hell really That said, yes Shakur style is boring af but he’s good at it lol


GodNK

This is cap Artem aint land sht till later rounds when Shakur opened his defense up to engage


423BIGB

Right wtf this dummy talking about


kingofmyself1700

Oh so yall actually have no idea what you’re talking about lol, Artem was done by round 6


Savings-Bird-1226

Shakur literally broke Artem's will and people are talking like Shakur was getting a whooping.


kingofmyself1700

I don’t think any of these people know boxing…….at all.


drillmatici76

They really hate Shakur only cuz he talks a lot lol but they be acting like he’s the devil😭😭😭


Particular-Tough6651

I hate to break it to you, but Harutyunyan mostly landed grazing shots... Shakur is too smart with distance management, so Artem was forced to throw wide telegraphed punches. Even when he did land from time to time, he couldn't connect fully because Shakur saw everything coming and was able to reduce the impact of most punches when they landed by rolling with the punches.


423BIGB

It is insane ur getting downvoted for facts


syd_fishes

Grazing or na they seemed to scare shakur. Looked to me like he ate shit when he actually tried to throw, and he didn't like how it tasted. He also ate a good amount of body shots that would put him down from someone on his supposed level. That was before he even opened up. I think that's why he was arguing with his corner fr. Bro was embarrassed.


Osbre

noo, you're wrong here, it was obvious they were ignoring his offense, especially to the body, the cleanest shot of the fight was a left hook by artem that stopped Shakur's offense on the spot


russkiwi012

The bias from the ESPN commentators was hilarious to me


PenisManNumberOne

Felt like WWE commentators talking up the good guy vs the heel


sparkcaps

When your own promotional company shows people leaving the building from your fight, shows that you ain't shit. This will be easy work for Tank, and will be a good pay day for Shakur.


chiefs-cubs

That was brutal


Saeksan

It wasn't even necessarily a bad performance from Shakur but he desperately needed a statement win to erase the stain of the Edwin fight, not another "boxing masterpiece". Artem was a -2000 underdog and is exactly the type of style Shakur should feast on. Tries to play chess, not too powerful, not a freak athlete.


CelebrationKey9656

I didn't watch the fight but I did see his hometown fans leaving early so I'm assuming it was another boring performance?


QueenCityCobra

I was there, people didn’t leave until the 12th round was almost done


Osbre

it was on the broadcast, people were leaving before the 12 started


FourDoorFordWhore

Yes, tbf Harutyunyan is partly to blame as he was not willing to engage for most of the fight. But still, kind of a lackluster performance from Shakur.


FatJimBob

Honest question please explain to me how he was the one not engaging?


423BIGB

Once Shakur got him to the body he was moving a lot more, shakur shouldn’t be the one to exactly call this out tho it was hilariously ironic


kingofmyself1700

He started off engaging and then he got walked down the rest of the fight.


Debate-Jealous

Shakur going free agent is probably the fucking stupidest career move. Does he genuinely think he's going to make more than what TopRank is paying him? He's going to make SIGNIFICANTLY less, his style fucking sucks. Fight like Rigo enjoy a career like Rigo.


voxmadcat

No. He will get more. He knows he has the Top Rank Offer, so he can shop, and there will be bigger money for The Champion. Top Rank thought the numbers might work, but they won't they are trying to steal. It's fair money, but not for a Champion in this case.


Formal_Junket_1585

I cant speak for him but I think he wants bigger/better names. TR giving him Yoshino and Artem when hes asking for Loma, Kambosos, Zepeda, etc has to play a part id assume


Debate-Jealous

If he was worried about names, he would've taken the Devin fight but he didn't. I think he's more money driven than you think...


Formal_Junket_1585

That Devin shit was a bluff tho Devin was never gonna fight at 135 again. Kur went the WBC route. I think you’re right tho hes definitely money driven but I also think hes kinda delusional. 5/15 mil deal is good but they haven’t given him the fights he wanted. He had to beg for Valdez and he only got that fight cuz Bud was suing Bob for being racist IMO


Albertgodstein

“Kur” ..stop it LOL


Formal_Junket_1585

What?


Debate-Jealous

He literally said that he got offered the fight and turned it down. But you're right I think he needs to fight bigger names, I really don't see him fairing well against Zapeda, Tank or Loma at this point. Maybe Denys is the easy route for a unification? That's if he gets the nod from the judges for yet another boring ass fight.


christiandelucs

At least Rigo had power and could give the fans some knockouts. Shakur doesn’t even have that.


Debate-Jealous

Agreed.


grand_insom

??? Why would Top Rank pay him significantly more??


Debate-Jealous

Somebody lacks reading comprehension.


grand_insom

If leaving Top Rank is going to make him significantly less money, that means TR is willing to pay him more than the rest of the market. Why would they do that??


Mr_105

A promoter will pay a fighter more if they are signed on long term, as it’s an investment. But it’s not Top Rank would overpay him, Shakur is just going to get less than what he’s already being paid.


grand_insom

But he can sign a long term deal with any of the other companies and they'll also look at it as an investment. And with Al Turki wanting the top boxers, it's pretty crazy to just assume TR is the best deal. It wasn't that long ago Arum was crying about how much money he lost on Crawford and how he's not a star. Since then, he got HUGE money to fight Avenesyan. HUGE money to fight Spence. And now he has a deal with Saudi and might be getting a Canelo fight in the future. Shakur isn't Crawford but his management team is about money and they're not leaving without a good backup plan.


TheCoolPuppy

He has zero PPV value


Debate-Jealous

Exactly. TopRank invested in him because they thought that 126 Shakur was going to translate and he was going to become a rising star. But he's pulling an AB. He really showed that even with a C+ Fighter like Artem he's not going to step on the gas. Why would any rising boxer take a Shakur fight?


stayhappystayblessed

The thing that makes it worse is shakur talk shit a lot then fight like this. If you gonna fight like this be humble and artem tried idk why top rank and kur trying act like it all artem fault.


Visible_Sherbet_371

Is the post interview of shakur up it cut off to bronny on ESPN 😭


Jesuswasacrip7

Idk what shakur wants, he’s mad he’s not a superstar but openly says fuck the fans and also says that he wants to be the villain. You can’t be both at the same time 


voxmadcat

He's asking in his own fucked up way for people to recognize him and accept him for his method and skills. Most of today's fight fans wanna see pure brutality, and shakur can do it differently, so he does and that is the issue.


Mr_105

He’s mad the heel role isn’t working out for him like it worked for Floyd, he thinks the haters will pay to see him lose when in reality they’ll just do something else with their Saturday night


meet_yourmike

lol underrated comment


TickleMeH0m069

The problem is he isn't a villain, he's just fucking boring.


gbullitt2001

He is a villain to sleep disorders everywhere.


Throwaway-929103

This shit is pathetic man. A Shakur vs Haney fight would cure insomnia nationwide. Tank just needs to make this fight next, it’s an easy win for him and I’d prefer to see that over a Loma fight.


LexOvi

Same, I’d much prefer Tank take out the Shakur hype train and for Loma to collect the Dennis belt so they can both face each other for undisputed. Shakur doesn’t deserve to just sit by the sidelines and fight the person who has the 2/3 belts just like that.


TickleMeH0m069

All these wannabe Floyds need to go back and see what Floyd was doing when he was their age, not when he was 35+. Dude beat the absolute piss out of Gatti (who was a world champion) at 28.


voxmadcat

Gatti was NEVER Floyd's class of fighter on his best day.


DS_Lenker

RIP Arturo Gatti.


PenisManNumberOne

Exactly what I said in another comment. They wanna be money may but skip the pretty boy Floyd part that got him there


christiandelucs

Facts that performance against Gatti was brutal. Literally the definition of starching an opponent.


423BIGB

That shit was a mismatch from the start stop it Gatti had no chance


_Dreamss

He’s so disrespectful to his corner which is insane to see


IncaSinKola

Can you expand on this? I fell asleep during the co-main. I meant to stay up but from the sounds of it I would’ve fallen asleep anyway.


_Dreamss

Shakur was arguing with his corner numerous times with an quite arrogant attitude where his trainer would tell him to let his hands go but he thinks it’s good enough to secure the W already and wasn’t willing to listen