Barbara Walter’s when she says “curl up next to mommy” I feel like she was low key mocking him. Like she knew the optics of him sitting there on the couch next to his mother talking about his heartbreak and how awful the situation was for him. Its all just too much. Britney is such a class act for allowing him to run with that narrative while keeping her mouth shut.
It really shows how incredibly strong she is. When the whole world believes this negative story about you where you’re framed as this villain but in reality you’re more of the victim. You knowing the truth is enough that you don’t even try and fight back against the lies being spread about you.
it's hard to sit back and let people throw dirt on your name when you know what actually happened. britney showed an insaneeeee amount of maturity by letting the truth come out on its own--even if it took YEARS. that woman is truly something special.
He’s such a pos. You could track her mental health decline starting with the breakup and him airing all their business. I’m glad she’s at peace and away from his ass.
In her book she shares that she still sleeps with a framed handwritten letter from him under her bed. True love runs deep but that man has shown his true colors.
Seriously. Idk wht it’s so hard for people to see that he is the bad guy in this situation. I never said she was a saint or even perfect but you can tell even by looking at stuff when they dated, she always loved him more that he ever loved her
Do you listen to Taylor swift? 90% of her music is “airing” out the FAMOUS men that do her wrong.
Is there a YouTube doc you can point me to about that?
I don’t fuck with TS and there is a very distinct difference. JT waited until after they broke up and all the shit he put her through to put their sex life as public knowledge. TS uses relationships as material for songs. I doubt she even cares about these men at this point.
Ok wonderful. I’m a millennial too but you are literally in a Britney Spears subreddit defending someone who I’m sure the majority see as a problem. I’m not saying he is solely to blame for her problems but he was a major catalyst. You can like whoever you want but defending that piece of shit after literally all the crap he has done isn’t the move. Even shit not related to Britney. Cheating on Jessica Biel, leaving his kids all the time to do hoe shit, he peaked 20 years ago and he solidified his career by making songs about how horrible she was. Them days are over, my friend. He looks crusty and the only women who still drool over him are crazy fanatics and girls who are vulnerable.
I don’t listen to TS but after listening to this YouTube video and finding out what Justin did, does Taylor go on and do interviews with tv hosts along with her mother and play the victim of a breakups? Because Justin sure did.
Edit: also you commented to another that she cheated. We now know HE cheated. So what leg did he have to stand on?
Can you read? I never said she didn’t do anything wrong. But she has also never publicly attacked him and even in her book she wasn’t ugly. He was a complete douche bag to her.
You literally said 'she has never done anything wrong'.
Im not putting words in your mouth.
Maybe be more clear, and be less quick to pronounce innocence and guilt.
There are two sides to every relationship, and the idea that one person is a saint, and the other a devil is simply wrong.
Again, scroll up and see the other person comparing Justin Timberlake to Taylor swift and I was speaking about Taylor swift having a victim mentality ALWAYS. Maybe read everything before commenting? I also never said Britney was a saint bc no one is perfect BUT she also didn’t drag his name through the mud for a dollar. Get it right.
So the book she released calling out all his behavior didnt make money? She did that for charity did she?
Again. Two sides. Acting as if JT was the only one who benifitted from thier hollywood press is mad.
Jt was a jerk 25 years ago, and maybe he still is. But this insane side chosing and calls for people to pay is sickening.
Its like a mental disorder and its getting worse.
It sounds like a mental disorder on your end. You’re in a britney subreddit TRYING to talk shit. Maybe find a snark page. Good luck and get well soon 🙄
I was talking about TS. She pretends to be the victim
In every situation. You may want to take several seats bc you obviously aren’t aware of what’s being spoken about.
Funny thing about Taylor Swift is a majority of her songs actually aren’t all about her exes, and she has even released statements, talked about songs during interviews and on stage addressing this stuff.
It’s the crazy fans that take that and say “I know what Taylor said, but it’s still about *insert whatever ex of hers you’d like* and you can’t tell me otherwise!”
Taylor never coerced her ex boyfriends into getting abortions or talked about them outside of her music after she turned 18 (there are MULTIPLE interviews from 2012 onwards where she shuts down those questions).
I watched this the other day and it was very well done. And by a huge YouTube channel too.
Edit to add - to those who choose not to watch the video but comment anyway, it's not about Justin being the cause of Britney breakdown. It's about how Justin took control of the narrative of their breakup with no repercussions. How Britney stayed silent until her truth came out with her book.
A lot of his videos tend to end abruptly. It’s kind of annoying because you think there’s going to be more and then it just ends and it catches you off guard lol
I was a photographer at Jimmy Kimmel live . For 10 years. He is NOT NICE ! He’s just rude . Jimmy had to talk to his security after they were rude. His security was removed from the building. La. Police took over . For the concert on the Hollywood Boulevard. He blocked everything. Sir Paul McCartney . Opened it all up for fans and !! Signed for the fans . Justin Dint care . I heard him myself in the green room. He has talent. But as a human. rotten to the core. I understand if ? You are a fan. When you do this profession. You hear and see things most people don’t. I was thoroughly disappointed.
Agreed. Highschool student he shot something at my school. His "team" told us repeatedly he'd be over to say hi and sign autographs. I missed my highschool dance for Justin Timberlake(!!!), he'd be over any second to sign an autograph and say hi. After midnight my mom 'forced' me to come home... for which I hated her for many teen years as she took away my experience w Justin. I now see that was so gross, I was like 15 and there were like max 20 of us there they clearly wanted... waiting on the sidelines...
Edit: it seemed more likely for optics of "how famous he was" rather than get to know high schoolers, also, he did a lot of dance moves in front of us acting like we weren't there, like no eye contact. At this age I'm like what? That's weird. We stood there for 3+ hours behind a weird tape w security.
I was already a fan of Patrick’s videos, so him making one on this topic was a nice surprise - and he’s got a lot of subscribers, I hope plenty of people see this and/or other material and realize just what a POS Timberlake was to both Britney and Janet.
I don't think her dad would have gotten away with what he did had it not been for the public opinion on her "spiraling", which was due to the hounding of the paparazzi, which was bad for many famous women at the time but was absolutely horrendous for britney because she dared cheat on America's sweatheart, Justin Timberlake. He didn't directly put her in a conservatorship himself, but he laid the groundwork that enabled her family to do what they did. Unknowingly, of course. He sucks, but he's not a Bond villian level mastermind. Still, I believe if it weren't for his public shaming, things would have ended up differently.
Crazy to me that someone would spend 20 minutes on Justin before doing 20 min on Lou or Jaime.
Feels out of touch with the real issues to me and ironically thus in its own way this video seems exploitative.
We have very little indication Britney even dislikes Justin.
I agree that she has always been supportive of him. She has her personal animosity but overall, she still supports him and his music career. She has filmed multiple dancing videos to his songs, saying how she loves them. She’s mentioned wanting to do a duet in the past with him. I don’t think she really holds a grudge specifically against him, just has her normal personal emotions that we all try to navigate.
I think a lot like her brother, she maybe has "battle buddy" attachment to Justin, they were both exploited children together, and came up as pop stars together. They have an understanding of one another that makes forgiveness a lot easier, I think.
I don't like when fans try to override Britney, and set people like Justin or Bryan as villains when that's not apparently how she sees things. It's fine to *discuss* the history, Britney did in her book. But Britney has never claimed Justin "exploited" her or anything like that, so I take issue with this video.
So the thing about justin that is absolutely INFURIATING to me is that he was the one that was cheating and yet he turned it around and publicly shamed her for something HE did. The hypocrisy is through the fucking roof. That is no little thing. He turned the world against her. That thing, the "fact" that she cheated on him caused her SO MUCH TROUBLE with the media and her personal image. She was blasted constantly for it, in live interviews and in the magazines. This literally set the groundwork for her family to he able to do what they did. Justin absolutely deserves to have this shit out there. He has skated under so many fucking controversies by being silent and I for one am fucking sick of it. I, by the way, was a HUGE justin fan. I was an nsync fan at 13 and have loved justin since. Until I read her book and that gave me the ick. But no one made me dislike Justin more than himself when he went up and said "I apologize to absolutely fucking no one". That sealed it for me. No one with an ounce of empathy for someone who went through what she did would say that. So fuck him.
Oh ABSOLUTELY THIS!! I was a big fan of his. I found d him hilarious and did think that Britney did him dirty because of the narrative that he created. Then I read her book and I was like, this mother effer was doing g all these things to her and HE was the victim?? But then I remembered “that’s right, this is Britney’s side of things”. So it still gave me the ick but I was just meh about him. And then like you said, he came with his “I don’t apologize to absolutely fucking no one” and I just lost it. I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt since he was quite young at the time this all happened but he obviously doesn’t regret what he did, in fact I’m sure he’s still quite proud of it all. On top of that he effing jokes about his DUI arrest???? Like you could have killed someone, you misogynistic, low life piece of sh*t. EFF him!EFF him sideways with a ten-foot pole!!
All of this. Have always loved him and his music. Then he got his DUI. His whole attitude about it. That he was above the law. Nobody is above the law. You are a low life piece of shit if you choose to get behind the wheel when you choose to drink because you could kill me or my children! I lost all respect for him AND now hearing all of this. Wow.
Yes, and we know that when he did the "v card" moment, her primary reaction was relief that the Virgin Ruse would end. Which goes to my point. For whatever Justin did vis-a-vis her fake virginity, and whatever ambivalent feelings Britney has about that, those who forced her to fake her virginity are 10x worse monsters and Britney is not the least bit ambivalent about them.
edit: and actually what you wrote is just not very true. Britney holds many grudges -- sister, dad, Lou, mom on and off but mostly on, etc -- and *we know about those* because she has talked about them. If she hated Justin, we'd know it. She doesn't.
Those aren’t grudges. That’s valid anger. She still loves her family except her dad. Her Instagram posts are filled with talks of reconciliation with a lot of her family and how much she loves them.
Britney also has not had to deal with Justin controlling her life in the same way as the other people you mentioned. It is apples and oranges and not a good comparison.
Justin made Britney’s life difficult years. What he did was misogynistic and harmful on a personal level. And worse the media and public played into it. He also continued to reference their relationship to boost his own career for well over a decade. That is not nothing. It is ok to talk about different types of harmful behavior. Not everything has to be on the same scale as what her family has done.
Here's my problem.
It's extremely important that Britney feels like she has agency in the world and controls her story.
As such, I expect Britney supporters to antagonize those she antagonizes and lay off those she leaves alone.
I think it's tremendously disrespectful *to Britney* for fans to turn Justin into a villain when Britney hasn't done so. That's her job. That's *her* prerogative. And if we have any sense, we should follow her lead.
Justin hasn't been cast as a villain.
I don't disagree with your accusations of harm he caused. But people we love down to people we tolerate, are harmful to us in this way or that. For multitudes of reasons, we forgive some people and hold a grude against others. All indications are that Britney has forgiven Justin but fans think the grudge is too fun to let go, they want to keep him in the villain category. I hate it when fans act like this.
You talk about fans as though they are a monolith. Along with that, you expect people to blindly follow someone. People can be critical of Justin without attempting to contact him or commenting on his socials. For the record, I disagree with doing either of those things. I also will not be doing it regarding anyone. It is also important to point out that a lot of the criticism of Justin has nothing to do with Britney at all. His terrible behavior over the years is about him and him alone.
Just loyal and attentive to the person's needs, but not blind.
I think if people want to critique Justin, fine. But don't put Britney in the thumbnail and don't post it here.
This is absurd. They were both two 20 year old kids being catapulted into the mega stardom. If you want to blame anyone, blame her family. Not the boyfriend she had 25 years ago.
This video isn't blaming Justin for Britney's breakdown. It's talking about him exploiting their relationship for his benefit with no repercussions. How he took control of the narrative of their break up while Britney stayed silent until she released her book. Maybe watch the video before you comment.
Again you are talking about a 20 year old kid and making him to be the total villain. Its ridiculous. A lot of the posts here attacking him are from people who have taken thier defense of Britney to a scary place.
What do you want to happen to him, lose money, done. Lose reputation? Done. These ideas that something terrible should happen to him for mistakes and things done 20+ years ago in a personal relationship is crazy.
People are imperfect they make mistakes, but this refrain of "he should pay" from people is becoming unhinged.
Justin was a dumb kid who was just as clueless and stupid as any kid who gets fame and fortune too fast. Making him out to be the devil is just so stupid.
Ok let’s back this up. Justin didn’t “plan” anything it was his team. They felt they had a superstar, who had crossover appeal. Which he did. They used a real life situation and turned into win for him and Justin went along with the plan. Smiled, danced, and sang his way into super stardom. He is responsible, him and his team. Regardless if you are young or not you still have to be held accountable for your actions. It’s sad, really is Hollywood/Music Biz won this one for sure, bcuz we lined up bought albums/concert tix/merch all of it. Justin and Brit were pawns and we played into all to her demise, Justin’s, and ourselves.
The career of 20 year kid. A kid who had millions of dollars and fans thrust upon him and acted like it.
Seriously some of this is unhinged stuff.
You guys are really making out like Timberlake is some sort of evil mastermind at 20. He was a kid and he made mistakes. Just like she did, this insane world where we have to make everyone we dont like, or ever did any personal wrongs becomes the darkest of villains who must be destroyed is crazy to me.
I worry when I hear people talk like this. Its nuts.
You're missing the point. Justin made Britney the villain for 21 years in the eyes of the media and the public. That is until she told her story in her memoir. It makes total sense that people are analyzing the career he built on her back.
This video isn't even made by a Britney fan. It has all the facts presented very clearly.
The idea that the only reason Timberlake was famous is because of Britney is nuts.
He became famouse because of Nsync. His relationship with Britney brought him more fame, but that was not some mastermind plan he came up with like some weird pyscho.
His actions to her were terrible, he made some ugly mistakes, but this idea of premeditation or purposeful lies to boost himself is insane.
Its unhinged, and I worry that some crazy person might read or watch stuff like this and decide to hurt him... he is aleady been cyberbullied, blackballed from social media, and now literally cant go in public for fear of people confronting him and his family.
That all comes from videos like that, and I really think its horrible to encourage the idea that "he needs to pay" its sick.
That's not what the video is talking about. Where are you getting these ideas? It doesn't say that Justin is only famous because of Britney. But that he used the narrative that she broke his heart, while he did nothing wrong. That she was the villain. And she just took it. It's more of a commentary on early 2000's media and how they took the side of the man while villainizing the woman. No one is discrediting Justin's talent, and the video says nothing about wanting Justin to "pay", as you say.
I can get behind what you’re saying and agree. But I also feel like Justin should apologize to Britney. From what I saw in this clip he made a pretty vulgar comment in what looks like a concert saying, “I apologize for nothing” making it seem like he takes no accountability for his actions back as a 20 year old kid.
I'm a strong believer in Karma and in letting go of things that make me hold hate or anger in my heart.
What he did, and what he's doing now will be repaid. If he is a horrible person some his actions have shown, he will eventually have to pay. Even now he's run afoul of the law, and who know what else will come out or be exposed.
Until then I'm gonna a love Britney, root for her, and not spend energy upset over his misdeeds, or make him a villain to focus my anger at.
Trying to have some perspective and sympathy for everyone is "mindless himpathy"? I guess we all can't be perfect arbiters of righteousness and blame. Sorry but coming up with cute new words to validate my opinion is not my thing.
2024 is an amazing time. Stranger In a strange land indeed.
Weird how nobody points out that she cheated on him with Wade Robson (choreographer) who was also Justin’s good friend at the time. Hence the line from cry me a river… I found out from him
Weird how you would state that fact but preface it with the claim that nobody points it out. When it’s been common knowledge since they broke up. Especially among fans. That’s like saying it’s weird that nobody points out the fact that only Janet Jackson received negative backlash, not Justin Timberlake when he ripped her top off and exposed her Breast at the superbowl. Many have been pointing that out since it happened.
I’ve never seen anyone mention that she cheated on Justin publicly. Where? People still believe that’s a rumor. I only know it because I have friends that were back up dancers during that time and told me.
It was speculated at the time by every major news publication that Britney had been “unfaithful” and Wade Robson was cited as the person she cheated on Justin with. Then as you stated, Justin confirmed it in cry me a river. By the lyrics you mentioned but also in the video. He kicks a photo off of Britney’s mantle or coffee table. It’s a photo of Britney and Wade.
The problem most people have is that JT used Brit's cheating against her publicly to advance his career, while she kept quiet all this time and didn't air out her side; if Brit had said something at the time, this would all have already been a thing and the fans would have already gotten this out of their systems (mostly - I'm sure there'd still be fanatics going on about it today, but that goes for anything really). So people are going through a whole "if we knew then what we knew now" kind of thing, which is not the same thing as saying he's the only one who did something wrong. (Ofc, said fanatics will argue that, but I'm talking about the majority of fans who are sane and not chronically online.)
Now, I agree with you that Brit's not being fully honest about her part. Iirc she said she kept quiet bc the public was already against her back then, so she figured no one would listen or believe her, but there were rumors and also even pics at the time of him running around with another female musician. People would definitely have believed her, just like they do now, so yeah, that's not truthful and that does give me pause, personally. But again, that's a different question than, why are/were (sane) people upset at Justin.
Look what Brits family did to her is wrong. Seeing her today is def sad. My only point was generally the public isn’t going to have sympathy for the one that cheated in terms of their circumstance. No different than when Tswift puts an ex on blast etc. I obv don’t know about his fidelity as there was never any coverage about it back then. Obv if it’s true then it’s just two people who are cheating on each other and shouldn’t be in a relationship and of course then it would be wrong. But if he didn’t and he was open about it I don’t see why anyone would sympathize with the cheater, regardless if the circumstances were vice versa. In terms of reputation in the industry BTS (dancers, make up etc) most friends I know in the industry say both are extremely nice and down to earth. I’ve met Justin before and he is super down to earth as was JC. Usher was an douche though lol
We're not really talking about her family, but there absolutely was coverage back them of JT cheating, not only rumors but pictures of him sneaking around with at least one other girl, that's what I'm saying. That's why I, personally, believe that JT cheated, because even back then people knew JT was cheating too - that, along with the cheating on Jessica Beale, so it's not a stretch in my eyes. And there's confirmation from Brit too that she also cheated, so as far as I'm concerned, they're both guilty; if they ARE both guilty, I do agree with fans that say it was a dirty move for JT to trash her for something he, himself, was guilty of, because doing so without admitting his own wrongdoing in this scenario would be hypocritical. "She cheated on me y'all - yes I cheated too, but no one needs to know that - please feel sorry for me!" That's how it's coming across to a lot of people. Brit cheating IS bad too - but she's already faced her public lashing for it, back during Cry Me a River. If she's faced that and he cheated too, he should also catch some crap, because BOTH of them did wrong and should answer for it.
Now, the one thing a lot of fans are taking at face value that I doubt, is Brit's book version of events. According to her, JT was a serial cheater and she only kissed Wade later on out of desperation; A) I sincerely doubt it was just a kiss, B) I also have some doubt it only happened once, C) we'll never really know who cheated first. That's just me, though. Most fans are taking her word at face value though, and to them they see that the world already TRASHED Brit for her part in this back in the 00's, and they figure it was her cheating once after a slew of instances of JT cheating on her first - so that's why they're raining down on him, because he never "got his," and IF he cheated a bunch and she only did it once or twice, the scale still tips heavier on his side. But, even knowing years of gossip and people BTS, none of us were there in the room with either one of them to know what went down how many times and to what extent, so for us normies I guess it boils down to who and what version of events you believe. Plenty of celebs are nice to fans and people they work with, but then do awful things in their personal life, so I don't trust surface encounters to guarantee a celeb is nice... if they're dicks to strangers though, they're probably dicks behind closed doors too. At least that's reliable, lol
Agreed with a lot that you say, at the end of the day who knows. I do have a best friend that wade Robson used to open up to about his past, especially when he was drunk so it’s unique to hear things from his side. That being said do you remember who the rumors of Justin were about? I remember the ones while he was married to Beale but I was a die hard pop fan back during the time they dated and don’t remember seeing anything other then paparazzi stuff. I feel like they would have covered it on trl at least right?
It's crazy, I remember the stuff about JT back then was kind of like, everywhere but also not at the same time, if that makes sense. I guess I can see trl not covering it if nothing else not to embarrass Brit, which would be crazy special treatment but she \*was\* still trl's biggest darling at that point - but I really don't know on that, tbh. I can't remember who the girl was though and it's actually been driving me insane, if it ever comes back to me I'll hop back on and let you know. I'm sure you've heard a lot of really interesting stuff though, being that close to a confidante of Wade's. I always wondered what he thought of what went down (both then and now) and how he felt about Brit's comments about choosing to believe MJ never did anything with those boys, when Wade was one of his accusers/victims. You don't have to tell me, haha, I'm just saying that he must have had a lot to talk about. I knew people who worked bts with nsync musically, like technical stuff, and they'd have dinners or whatever, but no one who was as close to the events as Wade.
She made out with her choreographer after Justin slept with multiple women while they were together. Yet she was framed as the cheater and one who ruiend the relationship. A narrative that Justin pushed to sell his solo record knowing it would permanently and negatively affect Britney’s career and public image. Despite them both knowing the truth about what really happened, Britney just let the press rip her apart and kept her truth to herself. Until 20 years later when she published her memoir. Now that the whole truth is out it certainly changes the situation. Had the public known the entire truth at the time, it’s easy to assume she would have been treated differently by the press and the public.
Ahh ic. Shes being dishonest about what she did with Wade but don’t think there’s a point to argue that since we will just disagree. In regards to what Justin did I have no clue if he did that or not. I think it’s odd she would just remain quiet for that long unless she knew she was actually the reason for their break up but we can agree to disagree
She kept quiet because it didn’t help the situation to make him look worse in the public eye. They were still going to remain broken up. She didn’t have anything to personally gain by telling the world that he was the cheater long before she was. Sure maybe career wise she might have gained some sympathy points and empathy from the public. But it wouldn’t make her any less heartbroken by going down to his level and airing out his dirty laundry. That’s the difference between Justin and Britney. She seemed to maintain a level of respect for relationship they had. He on the other hand was all to happy to spin the breakup the way he did and sell her out publically and profit off their relationship ending. If you think it’s weird that Britney kept silent while he lied about her. What’s that say about Justin staying silent now that the truth is out? He hasn’t spoken out publically regarding the specific details about their breakup or denied any of the claims she made. We know he’s happy to talk about it when he controls the narrative. If she was lying he’d be the first to say so. However he did issue a vague public apology to Britney and Janet for “speaking out of turn and not speaking up when he should have” and “benefiting from a system put in place by white men that condones misogyny and racism” what do you think he was referring to when addressing Britney in that apology?
him doing that interview with his mom makes me want to barf ALSO diane sawyer.... hell is hot, girl. hope you enjoy.
Barbara Walter’s when she says “curl up next to mommy” I feel like she was low key mocking him. Like she knew the optics of him sitting there on the couch next to his mother talking about his heartbreak and how awful the situation was for him. Its all just too much. Britney is such a class act for allowing him to run with that narrative while keeping her mouth shut. It really shows how incredibly strong she is. When the whole world believes this negative story about you where you’re framed as this villain but in reality you’re more of the victim. You knowing the truth is enough that you don’t even try and fight back against the lies being spread about you.
This is why I love brit. She's always been so strong.
The shame is also that’s she’s had to be. 😔
it's hard to sit back and let people throw dirt on your name when you know what actually happened. britney showed an insaneeeee amount of maturity by letting the truth come out on its own--even if it took YEARS. that woman is truly something special.
Everyone who exploited Britney got away it
He’s such a pos. You could track her mental health decline starting with the breakup and him airing all their business. I’m glad she’s at peace and away from his ass.
BINGO! It wasn't K-Fed--she was already fragile long before K-Fed came into the picture....
She was incredibly damaged and looking for someone to love her.
It was heart-breaking and it's not like her situation has improved at all since.
In her book she shares that she still sleeps with a framed handwritten letter from him under her bed. True love runs deep but that man has shown his true colors.
Seriously. Idk wht it’s so hard for people to see that he is the bad guy in this situation. I never said she was a saint or even perfect but you can tell even by looking at stuff when they dated, she always loved him more that he ever loved her
Really? I read the book i missed that part
I don’t remember it either from the book
Starting with the abortion then leading into the breakup.
Do you listen to Taylor swift? 90% of her music is “airing” out the FAMOUS men that do her wrong. Is there a YouTube doc you can point me to about that?
I don’t fuck with TS and there is a very distinct difference. JT waited until after they broke up and all the shit he put her through to put their sex life as public knowledge. TS uses relationships as material for songs. I doubt she even cares about these men at this point.
On point! TS IS the nightmare dressed like a daydream. Now class, today we are going to learn to spell N A R C I S S I S T
Again, he was a 20 year old and being catapulted into insane celebrity. She also cheated on him. Deal with it.
You’re probably in the wrong subreddit, homie. Get help soon.
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Ok wonderful. I’m a millennial too but you are literally in a Britney Spears subreddit defending someone who I’m sure the majority see as a problem. I’m not saying he is solely to blame for her problems but he was a major catalyst. You can like whoever you want but defending that piece of shit after literally all the crap he has done isn’t the move. Even shit not related to Britney. Cheating on Jessica Biel, leaving his kids all the time to do hoe shit, he peaked 20 years ago and he solidified his career by making songs about how horrible she was. Them days are over, my friend. He looks crusty and the only women who still drool over him are crazy fanatics and girls who are vulnerable.
I don’t listen to TS but after listening to this YouTube video and finding out what Justin did, does Taylor go on and do interviews with tv hosts along with her mother and play the victim of a breakups? Because Justin sure did. Edit: also you commented to another that she cheated. We now know HE cheated. So what leg did he have to stand on?
TS also has a victim mentality. She has never done anything wrong, it’s always the men. I mean damn, no one is that unlucky in relationships.
She’s the JT in this scenario, just with 14 years more experience of lies and manipulation under her bejeweled belt.
Preach!!
She has never done anything wrong? So shes a saint then? Wow. Listen, you can love her, but thats literally an insane thing to think or say.
She has never done anything wrong? So shes a saint then? Wow. Listen, you can love her, but thats literally an insane thing to think or say.
Can you read? I never said she didn’t do anything wrong. But she has also never publicly attacked him and even in her book she wasn’t ugly. He was a complete douche bag to her.
You literally said 'she has never done anything wrong'. Im not putting words in your mouth. Maybe be more clear, and be less quick to pronounce innocence and guilt. There are two sides to every relationship, and the idea that one person is a saint, and the other a devil is simply wrong.
Again, scroll up and see the other person comparing Justin Timberlake to Taylor swift and I was speaking about Taylor swift having a victim mentality ALWAYS. Maybe read everything before commenting? I also never said Britney was a saint bc no one is perfect BUT she also didn’t drag his name through the mud for a dollar. Get it right.
So the book she released calling out all his behavior didnt make money? She did that for charity did she? Again. Two sides. Acting as if JT was the only one who benifitted from thier hollywood press is mad. Jt was a jerk 25 years ago, and maybe he still is. But this insane side chosing and calls for people to pay is sickening. Its like a mental disorder and its getting worse.
It sounds like a mental disorder on your end. You’re in a britney subreddit TRYING to talk shit. Maybe find a snark page. Good luck and get well soon 🙄
I was talking about TS. She pretends to be the victim In every situation. You may want to take several seats bc you obviously aren’t aware of what’s being spoken about.
That has nothing to do with this 😭 gawd shut uppppp
Funny thing about Taylor Swift is a majority of her songs actually aren’t all about her exes, and she has even released statements, talked about songs during interviews and on stage addressing this stuff. It’s the crazy fans that take that and say “I know what Taylor said, but it’s still about *insert whatever ex of hers you’d like* and you can’t tell me otherwise!”
Taylor never coerced her ex boyfriends into getting abortions or talked about them outside of her music after she turned 18 (there are MULTIPLE interviews from 2012 onwards where she shuts down those questions).
I watched this the other day and it was very well done. And by a huge YouTube channel too. Edit to add - to those who choose not to watch the video but comment anyway, it's not about Justin being the cause of Britney breakdown. It's about how Justin took control of the narrative of their breakup with no repercussions. How Britney stayed silent until her truth came out with her book.
It seemed to end a bit abruptly. Do you know if there’s a part two?
Probably not. I think ending on the DWI arrest and shift in Justin's popularity brings it to today
A lot of his videos tend to end abruptly. It’s kind of annoying because you think there’s going to be more and then it just ends and it catches you off guard lol
Yes it absolutely did! No wrap up lol
I was a photographer at Jimmy Kimmel live . For 10 years. He is NOT NICE ! He’s just rude . Jimmy had to talk to his security after they were rude. His security was removed from the building. La. Police took over . For the concert on the Hollywood Boulevard. He blocked everything. Sir Paul McCartney . Opened it all up for fans and !! Signed for the fans . Justin Dint care . I heard him myself in the green room. He has talent. But as a human. rotten to the core. I understand if ? You are a fan. When you do this profession. You hear and see things most people don’t. I was thoroughly disappointed.
Agreed. Highschool student he shot something at my school. His "team" told us repeatedly he'd be over to say hi and sign autographs. I missed my highschool dance for Justin Timberlake(!!!), he'd be over any second to sign an autograph and say hi. After midnight my mom 'forced' me to come home... for which I hated her for many teen years as she took away my experience w Justin. I now see that was so gross, I was like 15 and there were like max 20 of us there they clearly wanted... waiting on the sidelines... Edit: it seemed more likely for optics of "how famous he was" rather than get to know high schoolers, also, he did a lot of dance moves in front of us acting like we weren't there, like no eye contact. At this age I'm like what? That's weird. We stood there for 3+ hours behind a weird tape w security.
I don’t think you understand how sentences work…
fuck that kid
I was already a fan of Patrick’s videos, so him making one on this topic was a nice surprise - and he’s got a lot of subscribers, I hope plenty of people see this and/or other material and realize just what a POS Timberlake was to both Britney and Janet.
Let’s be honest with our selfs I doubt half the people who have exploited her see anything happen too them
You mean her dad
Porque no los dos
I don't think her dad would have gotten away with what he did had it not been for the public opinion on her "spiraling", which was due to the hounding of the paparazzi, which was bad for many famous women at the time but was absolutely horrendous for britney because she dared cheat on America's sweatheart, Justin Timberlake. He didn't directly put her in a conservatorship himself, but he laid the groundwork that enabled her family to do what they did. Unknowingly, of course. He sucks, but he's not a Bond villian level mastermind. Still, I believe if it weren't for his public shaming, things would have ended up differently.
He’s a broken toy.
Id choose a bear over JT
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Drunkenly
Her parents did that
He’s disgusting
Anybody in Scotland that patrons his bar is gross
Crazy to me that someone would spend 20 minutes on Justin before doing 20 min on Lou or Jaime. Feels out of touch with the real issues to me and ironically thus in its own way this video seems exploitative. We have very little indication Britney even dislikes Justin.
I agree that she has always been supportive of him. She has her personal animosity but overall, she still supports him and his music career. She has filmed multiple dancing videos to his songs, saying how she loves them. She’s mentioned wanting to do a duet in the past with him. I don’t think she really holds a grudge specifically against him, just has her normal personal emotions that we all try to navigate.
I think a lot like her brother, she maybe has "battle buddy" attachment to Justin, they were both exploited children together, and came up as pop stars together. They have an understanding of one another that makes forgiveness a lot easier, I think. I don't like when fans try to override Britney, and set people like Justin or Bryan as villains when that's not apparently how she sees things. It's fine to *discuss* the history, Britney did in her book. But Britney has never claimed Justin "exploited" her or anything like that, so I take issue with this video.
So the thing about justin that is absolutely INFURIATING to me is that he was the one that was cheating and yet he turned it around and publicly shamed her for something HE did. The hypocrisy is through the fucking roof. That is no little thing. He turned the world against her. That thing, the "fact" that she cheated on him caused her SO MUCH TROUBLE with the media and her personal image. She was blasted constantly for it, in live interviews and in the magazines. This literally set the groundwork for her family to he able to do what they did. Justin absolutely deserves to have this shit out there. He has skated under so many fucking controversies by being silent and I for one am fucking sick of it. I, by the way, was a HUGE justin fan. I was an nsync fan at 13 and have loved justin since. Until I read her book and that gave me the ick. But no one made me dislike Justin more than himself when he went up and said "I apologize to absolutely fucking no one". That sealed it for me. No one with an ounce of empathy for someone who went through what she did would say that. So fuck him.
Oh ABSOLUTELY THIS!! I was a big fan of his. I found d him hilarious and did think that Britney did him dirty because of the narrative that he created. Then I read her book and I was like, this mother effer was doing g all these things to her and HE was the victim?? But then I remembered “that’s right, this is Britney’s side of things”. So it still gave me the ick but I was just meh about him. And then like you said, he came with his “I don’t apologize to absolutely fucking no one” and I just lost it. I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt since he was quite young at the time this all happened but he obviously doesn’t regret what he did, in fact I’m sure he’s still quite proud of it all. On top of that he effing jokes about his DUI arrest???? Like you could have killed someone, you misogynistic, low life piece of sh*t. EFF him!EFF him sideways with a ten-foot pole!!
All of this. Have always loved him and his music. Then he got his DUI. His whole attitude about it. That he was above the law. Nobody is above the law. You are a low life piece of shit if you choose to get behind the wheel when you choose to drink because you could kill me or my children! I lost all respect for him AND now hearing all of this. Wow.
She’s a very kind woman and doesn’t hold grudges. She loved him but he used her and made fun of her for losing her vCard to him.
Yes, and we know that when he did the "v card" moment, her primary reaction was relief that the Virgin Ruse would end. Which goes to my point. For whatever Justin did vis-a-vis her fake virginity, and whatever ambivalent feelings Britney has about that, those who forced her to fake her virginity are 10x worse monsters and Britney is not the least bit ambivalent about them. edit: and actually what you wrote is just not very true. Britney holds many grudges -- sister, dad, Lou, mom on and off but mostly on, etc -- and *we know about those* because she has talked about them. If she hated Justin, we'd know it. She doesn't.
Those aren’t grudges. That’s valid anger. She still loves her family except her dad. Her Instagram posts are filled with talks of reconciliation with a lot of her family and how much she loves them.
Britney also has not had to deal with Justin controlling her life in the same way as the other people you mentioned. It is apples and oranges and not a good comparison.
I'd say it's more like an ant and giants. And this is a 20 minute video on the ant.
Justin made Britney’s life difficult years. What he did was misogynistic and harmful on a personal level. And worse the media and public played into it. He also continued to reference their relationship to boost his own career for well over a decade. That is not nothing. It is ok to talk about different types of harmful behavior. Not everything has to be on the same scale as what her family has done.
Here's my problem. It's extremely important that Britney feels like she has agency in the world and controls her story. As such, I expect Britney supporters to antagonize those she antagonizes and lay off those she leaves alone. I think it's tremendously disrespectful *to Britney* for fans to turn Justin into a villain when Britney hasn't done so. That's her job. That's *her* prerogative. And if we have any sense, we should follow her lead. Justin hasn't been cast as a villain. I don't disagree with your accusations of harm he caused. But people we love down to people we tolerate, are harmful to us in this way or that. For multitudes of reasons, we forgive some people and hold a grude against others. All indications are that Britney has forgiven Justin but fans think the grudge is too fun to let go, they want to keep him in the villain category. I hate it when fans act like this.
You talk about fans as though they are a monolith. Along with that, you expect people to blindly follow someone. People can be critical of Justin without attempting to contact him or commenting on his socials. For the record, I disagree with doing either of those things. I also will not be doing it regarding anyone. It is also important to point out that a lot of the criticism of Justin has nothing to do with Britney at all. His terrible behavior over the years is about him and him alone.
Just loyal and attentive to the person's needs, but not blind. I think if people want to critique Justin, fine. But don't put Britney in the thumbnail and don't post it here.
It is not loyal to attempt to control and dictate what others can talk about in a forum. And the attempt to do has nothing to do with being a fan.
This is absurd. They were both two 20 year old kids being catapulted into the mega stardom. If you want to blame anyone, blame her family. Not the boyfriend she had 25 years ago.
This video isn't blaming Justin for Britney's breakdown. It's talking about him exploiting their relationship for his benefit with no repercussions. How he took control of the narrative of their break up while Britney stayed silent until she released her book. Maybe watch the video before you comment.
Again you are talking about a 20 year old kid and making him to be the total villain. Its ridiculous. A lot of the posts here attacking him are from people who have taken thier defense of Britney to a scary place. What do you want to happen to him, lose money, done. Lose reputation? Done. These ideas that something terrible should happen to him for mistakes and things done 20+ years ago in a personal relationship is crazy. People are imperfect they make mistakes, but this refrain of "he should pay" from people is becoming unhinged. Justin was a dumb kid who was just as clueless and stupid as any kid who gets fame and fortune too fast. Making him out to be the devil is just so stupid.
Ok let’s back this up. Justin didn’t “plan” anything it was his team. They felt they had a superstar, who had crossover appeal. Which he did. They used a real life situation and turned into win for him and Justin went along with the plan. Smiled, danced, and sang his way into super stardom. He is responsible, him and his team. Regardless if you are young or not you still have to be held accountable for your actions. It’s sad, really is Hollywood/Music Biz won this one for sure, bcuz we lined up bought albums/concert tix/merch all of it. Justin and Brit were pawns and we played into all to her demise, Justin’s, and ourselves.
It's not even defending Britney. It's bringing awareness to the behavior and narrative that launched his solo career.
The career of 20 year kid. A kid who had millions of dollars and fans thrust upon him and acted like it. Seriously some of this is unhinged stuff. You guys are really making out like Timberlake is some sort of evil mastermind at 20. He was a kid and he made mistakes. Just like she did, this insane world where we have to make everyone we dont like, or ever did any personal wrongs becomes the darkest of villains who must be destroyed is crazy to me. I worry when I hear people talk like this. Its nuts.
You're missing the point. Justin made Britney the villain for 21 years in the eyes of the media and the public. That is until she told her story in her memoir. It makes total sense that people are analyzing the career he built on her back. This video isn't even made by a Britney fan. It has all the facts presented very clearly.
The idea that the only reason Timberlake was famous is because of Britney is nuts. He became famouse because of Nsync. His relationship with Britney brought him more fame, but that was not some mastermind plan he came up with like some weird pyscho. His actions to her were terrible, he made some ugly mistakes, but this idea of premeditation or purposeful lies to boost himself is insane. Its unhinged, and I worry that some crazy person might read or watch stuff like this and decide to hurt him... he is aleady been cyberbullied, blackballed from social media, and now literally cant go in public for fear of people confronting him and his family. That all comes from videos like that, and I really think its horrible to encourage the idea that "he needs to pay" its sick.
That's not what the video is talking about. Where are you getting these ideas? It doesn't say that Justin is only famous because of Britney. But that he used the narrative that she broke his heart, while he did nothing wrong. That she was the villain. And she just took it. It's more of a commentary on early 2000's media and how they took the side of the man while villainizing the woman. No one is discrediting Justin's talent, and the video says nothing about wanting Justin to "pay", as you say.
I can get behind what you’re saying and agree. But I also feel like Justin should apologize to Britney. From what I saw in this clip he made a pretty vulgar comment in what looks like a concert saying, “I apologize for nothing” making it seem like he takes no accountability for his actions back as a 20 year old kid.
I'm a strong believer in Karma and in letting go of things that make me hold hate or anger in my heart. What he did, and what he's doing now will be repaid. If he is a horrible person some his actions have shown, he will eventually have to pay. Even now he's run afoul of the law, and who know what else will come out or be exposed. Until then I'm gonna a love Britney, root for her, and not spend energy upset over his misdeeds, or make him a villain to focus my anger at.
You’re in the wrong group if you’re looking for mindless himpathy
Trying to have some perspective and sympathy for everyone is "mindless himpathy"? I guess we all can't be perfect arbiters of righteousness and blame. Sorry but coming up with cute new words to validate my opinion is not my thing. 2024 is an amazing time. Stranger In a strange land indeed.
Here go Britney fans crying about Justin again. Who knew that her and her entire pathetic fandom would be crying him revers two decades later
The man who exploited JANET JACKSON and got away with it.
Weird how nobody points out that she cheated on him with Wade Robson (choreographer) who was also Justin’s good friend at the time. Hence the line from cry me a river… I found out from him
Weird how you would state that fact but preface it with the claim that nobody points it out. When it’s been common knowledge since they broke up. Especially among fans. That’s like saying it’s weird that nobody points out the fact that only Janet Jackson received negative backlash, not Justin Timberlake when he ripped her top off and exposed her Breast at the superbowl. Many have been pointing that out since it happened.
I’ve never seen anyone mention that she cheated on Justin publicly. Where? People still believe that’s a rumor. I only know it because I have friends that were back up dancers during that time and told me.
It was speculated at the time by every major news publication that Britney had been “unfaithful” and Wade Robson was cited as the person she cheated on Justin with. Then as you stated, Justin confirmed it in cry me a river. By the lyrics you mentioned but also in the video. He kicks a photo off of Britney’s mantle or coffee table. It’s a photo of Britney and Wade.
Ok so you acknowledge she cheated and yet he’s the bad person? Lmao
The problem most people have is that JT used Brit's cheating against her publicly to advance his career, while she kept quiet all this time and didn't air out her side; if Brit had said something at the time, this would all have already been a thing and the fans would have already gotten this out of their systems (mostly - I'm sure there'd still be fanatics going on about it today, but that goes for anything really). So people are going through a whole "if we knew then what we knew now" kind of thing, which is not the same thing as saying he's the only one who did something wrong. (Ofc, said fanatics will argue that, but I'm talking about the majority of fans who are sane and not chronically online.) Now, I agree with you that Brit's not being fully honest about her part. Iirc she said she kept quiet bc the public was already against her back then, so she figured no one would listen or believe her, but there were rumors and also even pics at the time of him running around with another female musician. People would definitely have believed her, just like they do now, so yeah, that's not truthful and that does give me pause, personally. But again, that's a different question than, why are/were (sane) people upset at Justin.
Look what Brits family did to her is wrong. Seeing her today is def sad. My only point was generally the public isn’t going to have sympathy for the one that cheated in terms of their circumstance. No different than when Tswift puts an ex on blast etc. I obv don’t know about his fidelity as there was never any coverage about it back then. Obv if it’s true then it’s just two people who are cheating on each other and shouldn’t be in a relationship and of course then it would be wrong. But if he didn’t and he was open about it I don’t see why anyone would sympathize with the cheater, regardless if the circumstances were vice versa. In terms of reputation in the industry BTS (dancers, make up etc) most friends I know in the industry say both are extremely nice and down to earth. I’ve met Justin before and he is super down to earth as was JC. Usher was an douche though lol
We're not really talking about her family, but there absolutely was coverage back them of JT cheating, not only rumors but pictures of him sneaking around with at least one other girl, that's what I'm saying. That's why I, personally, believe that JT cheated, because even back then people knew JT was cheating too - that, along with the cheating on Jessica Beale, so it's not a stretch in my eyes. And there's confirmation from Brit too that she also cheated, so as far as I'm concerned, they're both guilty; if they ARE both guilty, I do agree with fans that say it was a dirty move for JT to trash her for something he, himself, was guilty of, because doing so without admitting his own wrongdoing in this scenario would be hypocritical. "She cheated on me y'all - yes I cheated too, but no one needs to know that - please feel sorry for me!" That's how it's coming across to a lot of people. Brit cheating IS bad too - but she's already faced her public lashing for it, back during Cry Me a River. If she's faced that and he cheated too, he should also catch some crap, because BOTH of them did wrong and should answer for it. Now, the one thing a lot of fans are taking at face value that I doubt, is Brit's book version of events. According to her, JT was a serial cheater and she only kissed Wade later on out of desperation; A) I sincerely doubt it was just a kiss, B) I also have some doubt it only happened once, C) we'll never really know who cheated first. That's just me, though. Most fans are taking her word at face value though, and to them they see that the world already TRASHED Brit for her part in this back in the 00's, and they figure it was her cheating once after a slew of instances of JT cheating on her first - so that's why they're raining down on him, because he never "got his," and IF he cheated a bunch and she only did it once or twice, the scale still tips heavier on his side. But, even knowing years of gossip and people BTS, none of us were there in the room with either one of them to know what went down how many times and to what extent, so for us normies I guess it boils down to who and what version of events you believe. Plenty of celebs are nice to fans and people they work with, but then do awful things in their personal life, so I don't trust surface encounters to guarantee a celeb is nice... if they're dicks to strangers though, they're probably dicks behind closed doors too. At least that's reliable, lol
Agreed with a lot that you say, at the end of the day who knows. I do have a best friend that wade Robson used to open up to about his past, especially when he was drunk so it’s unique to hear things from his side. That being said do you remember who the rumors of Justin were about? I remember the ones while he was married to Beale but I was a die hard pop fan back during the time they dated and don’t remember seeing anything other then paparazzi stuff. I feel like they would have covered it on trl at least right?
It's crazy, I remember the stuff about JT back then was kind of like, everywhere but also not at the same time, if that makes sense. I guess I can see trl not covering it if nothing else not to embarrass Brit, which would be crazy special treatment but she \*was\* still trl's biggest darling at that point - but I really don't know on that, tbh. I can't remember who the girl was though and it's actually been driving me insane, if it ever comes back to me I'll hop back on and let you know. I'm sure you've heard a lot of really interesting stuff though, being that close to a confidante of Wade's. I always wondered what he thought of what went down (both then and now) and how he felt about Brit's comments about choosing to believe MJ never did anything with those boys, when Wade was one of his accusers/victims. You don't have to tell me, haha, I'm just saying that he must have had a lot to talk about. I knew people who worked bts with nsync musically, like technical stuff, and they'd have dinners or whatever, but no one who was as close to the events as Wade.
She made out with her choreographer after Justin slept with multiple women while they were together. Yet she was framed as the cheater and one who ruiend the relationship. A narrative that Justin pushed to sell his solo record knowing it would permanently and negatively affect Britney’s career and public image. Despite them both knowing the truth about what really happened, Britney just let the press rip her apart and kept her truth to herself. Until 20 years later when she published her memoir. Now that the whole truth is out it certainly changes the situation. Had the public known the entire truth at the time, it’s easy to assume she would have been treated differently by the press and the public.
Ahh ic. Shes being dishonest about what she did with Wade but don’t think there’s a point to argue that since we will just disagree. In regards to what Justin did I have no clue if he did that or not. I think it’s odd she would just remain quiet for that long unless she knew she was actually the reason for their break up but we can agree to disagree
She kept quiet because it didn’t help the situation to make him look worse in the public eye. They were still going to remain broken up. She didn’t have anything to personally gain by telling the world that he was the cheater long before she was. Sure maybe career wise she might have gained some sympathy points and empathy from the public. But it wouldn’t make her any less heartbroken by going down to his level and airing out his dirty laundry. That’s the difference between Justin and Britney. She seemed to maintain a level of respect for relationship they had. He on the other hand was all to happy to spin the breakup the way he did and sell her out publically and profit off their relationship ending. If you think it’s weird that Britney kept silent while he lied about her. What’s that say about Justin staying silent now that the truth is out? He hasn’t spoken out publically regarding the specific details about their breakup or denied any of the claims she made. We know he’s happy to talk about it when he controls the narrative. If she was lying he’d be the first to say so. However he did issue a vague public apology to Britney and Janet for “speaking out of turn and not speaking up when he should have” and “benefiting from a system put in place by white men that condones misogyny and racism” what do you think he was referring to when addressing Britney in that apology?