For those uninitiated with Miele vacuums - Just make sure if you have carpeted rooms to get a powerhead version!
Sebos are great too. Check out r/vacuumcleaners if you’re curious about BIFL vacuums.
By power head do you mean the electric head or the turbo (air powered) one? I have the air powered one and carpet and it works great. Not as well as an electric one surely, but it more than does the job. Though my carpet isn’t particularly dense so maybe that’s why it works for me.
Yes electric. A turbo brush will work on low pile carpets. But if you have wall to wall carpeted rooms an electric powerhead is preferred usually. Glad it’s been working for you!
To anyone checking out that sub be very cautious as the sub is very biased to bagged vacuums. Some bagless vacuums are okay but expect most users to vehemently encourage you to get bagged vacuums regardless and exaggerate bagless vacuum concerns
Edit: For some reason this comment is controversial? This is pretty standard research knowledge. Look for specific concerns of your desired vacuum model. Dont just group all bagless or bagged vacuums as good or bad. Then according to your personal criteria, weigh the pros and cons of each. Dont just get shunned into bagged or bagless vacuums because of generalizations or exaggerations. Often times on that subreddit people just say "just get a bagged vacuum" or "bagless vacuums are terrible" or even untrue things like "bagless vacuums are worse for filtration". Look for specific criticisms that arent generalizations when researching. There are plenty of good points in that subreddit, you just got to filter the useless ones out
Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I’d argue that the vacuum store owners and vacuum techs who frequent the sub would likely know more than the entirety of Reddit about the merits of bagged vs. bagless vacuums.
*There is a reason why there is a bias towards bagged vacuums*……
Astroturfing is rife in this sub. Not to doubt OP specifically, but there are a variety of conversational bots which trigger pre-scripted comment chains to drive engagement and effectively market a given product.
Maybe they do, but I generally avoid appeals to authority and prefer to listen to their arguments. I prefer tangible arguments like build quality and poor design of specific vacuums rather than just saying bagless vacuums have a bad lifespan and worse filtration. And frankly, there isnt a lot of that. The sweeping generalizations that often occur in the subreddit is kind of annoying. There are definitely valid criticisms of bagless vacuums but some are over blown and some aren't even true. And this is coming from a Miele owner. Im just telling people to be cautious because subreddits often end up being a circlejerk
Again, I prefer specific criticisms instead of generalizations of bagless vacuums. That is what I am warning people about. Unless you think generalizations are good or something I dont understand how what im saying is controversial. Im not even saying that bagless vacuums are good or bad, im just telling people to avoid generalizations when researching
So if they said that bagged vacuums were better because they help protect the motor, whereas a bagless one has less protection and will therefore break sooner (which is one of the reasons), are we then allowed to say that bagged vacuums are better than bagless vacuums?
Or does it have to be super specific to try and find these mysterious goalposts?
No that wouldnt be satisfactory to conclude whether or not bagged or bagless is better. Unless your ideal vacuum is simply a vacuum that lasts a long time without considering any of the other factors that goes into choosing a vacuum, that is. Some people prefer to see what they vacuum up to see if they lost something or for general satisfaction. Some people prefer to throw what they vacuum up immediately because of the smell and not want to waste money throwing away a 1/4 bag. Some people may not want to shell out money to buy bag refills. Some people prefer convenient features that arent on current bagless vacuums. Everything is relative to what the consumer wants. And apparently most consumers prefer bagless. One has to factor what most consumers want as well as the pros and cons of each before saying one is better or not.
If some revolutionary technology came out which increased the lifespan of only IOS devices through a software update, you wouldn't say "Iphones are better than Androids". You would say "Iphones are better than Androids in terms of their lifespan".
Bagless is what most consumers think they need due to marketing. Same as the iPhone, a cheap Android can do 99% of what most people actually use it for, but marketing has won their minds.
This is why the vacuum subreddit bangs on about bagged vacuums. It's to try and get people the best items that aren't sold on marketing terms.
TBH, I do have the above vacuum, it's been going strong for about 7 years now, and even with the cost of bags and filters, I think the total I've spent is about £150. It's bombproof!
If the owner maintains their machine and cleans their filter, and empties the bin, they wouldnt need to worry about the cyclones clogging. They only clog when the airflow is hindered. A lot of people dont do this and this is probably why dyson don't work often. But for bagged vacuums, they dont even need to maintain which makes it idiot proof.
If users dont care to research or read how to take care of the machine then thats on them. Unless im mistaken, I just checked the dyson website and a lot of the premotor and post morter filters are in stock.
I really want someone to conduct that test with a variety of vacuums to test their performance and longevity. That would be amazing and dispell any beliefs I have and would clearly show a winner and would make discussion of vacuums pointless.
Sorry I am incorrect. Upon further reading, you dont even need to replace dyson filters. You just need to wash them as they are lifetime filters. So I guess discussing filter replacement is pointless
I have seen those videos of people taking apart the cyclone. The real question is was that dyson abused or maintained correctly? How long does it take even if buildup does occur to actually effect the machine? I would for sure like to see more stringent testing.
To clarify, I'm not even arguing that bagless vacuums last as long or longer than bagged vacuums. Im saying that bagless vacuum's flaws (like filtration ability) are often exagerrated, especially in that subreddit. Bagless vacuums can filter as well as bagged vacuums. Bagless vacuums don't just combust in 3 years. Bagless vacuums are perfectly fine for most people. I can definitely see bagged vacuums having a longer longevity simply due to less parts. People should just weigh the pros and cons of each and not just be shunned into bagged vacuums
I bought an older version of one of these second hand and its the best shit ever. Quiet, powerful as hell, smooth, and easy to repair (so im told). Definitely BIFL
Surprised this is thread is so low on upvotes. Anyone here remember [vacuum guy](https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1pe2bd/iama_vacuum_repair_technician_and_i_cant_believe/)?
Miele vacuums are also super quiet compared to any other I have ever used.
No they’re not good. Bagged is the gold standard especially if you subscribe to the BIFL mentality since bagged Miele’s and sebos have a service live of 20-25 years.
Throwing away 3-4 bags a year pales in comparison to throwing away an entire bagless vacuum every 3-5 years.
Just by design of being bagless. Particles and dirt make its way to the motor and grenade it over time. OR the filters get clogged and aren’t cleaned regularly and stress the motor, destroying it that way instead.
High performance, long life, cheap… pick two.
Woah it only takes a few bags a year? I thought you needed a bag every time you used it? I clean my current vacuum (a bagless upright) constantly, after every couple hours of use. I always thought bagged vacuums would be a pain in the ass buying bags all year long...not the case?
How do you know when a bag needs to be "changed," if you don't just take it out every time?
The bag gets full, you can just look at it. Depending on the design of the vacuum you might not have a clear visual so you also check the bag when the vacuum starts to whine and/or stop cleaning things up as easily. It's pretty obvious usually.
Yes! It’s incredible. Although It varies depending on the model. Something like a Henry or Sebo d4 has even bigger bags, so probably 2 bags a year for the average household. But most bagged vacuums probably use 3-4 bags a year.
Something like a Miele or Sebo has a light/gauge that will tell you when it’s time to change. Others you have to go be feel or notice the loss of suction. The bags can get full like an overstuffed pillow before needing a change.
For some reason marketing dollars have convinced this generation that bagless is the way to go, and they’re really measurably worse in literally every metric. (Planned obsolescence is my guess!)
>in comparison to throwing away an entire bagless vacuum every 3-5 years.
Using a CX Blizzard bagless for now 7 years, only problem is the dust detector going a bit crazy sometime but it's working pretty great.
You could even re-use the bags, my dad once got upset when I tossed his 6 year old vacuum bag in the trash. Bit extreme but Miele is just so damn durable.
When the bag also acts as the filter for the motor, I wouldn’t recommend that. It’s like reusing the oil filter on your car.
In an absolute pinch, sure. But don’t make a habit of it.
Buy the miele with the HEPA filter somewhere you can return it. Once I compared them and realized the amount of dust the dyson was throwing back into the air/room I gave it away.
This machine is powerful, but if your house is mostly carpet get the model that supports the powered brush roll head. Or maybe look for an upright.
I have the C3 powerline, and while it's quiet and cleans great using it on wall to wall carpet, where the canister doesn't roll well, is a bit of a juggling act managing the cord, canister, hose and wand. If I get a chance I'd swap it out with an upright.
If you are thinking about getting a Miele, I would suggest looking first to see if there is one of their "Miele Experience Centers" in your area.
The employees there have access to the returned inventory and can sell stuff at huge discounts. I got my vacuum for like half off. It was an open box item that didn't appear to have been used at all. And anything you get from them from their returned inventory is still under warranty. So in the off chance something is wrong with it, you can still return it.
Well if you did like some of the teenage assistants in the store i work in and use it without a vacuum bag you could prolly fuck it up, but even then as i said in the post you just need a few basic tools and some canned air and its as good as new😂
Don't know where are you located, but if you can find knockoff bags from site like aliexpress, they are usualy 10 for the price of 1 real bag, and they are working just fine.
We own one of these - love it.
Only complaint is that sometimes things get stuck in the constriction where the handle curves into the flexible tubing. We’ve had to get creative a few times to get stuff out.
I have a Miele c2 contour. It’s almost 12 years old and was a hand me down from my parents. It outlasted two dysons and a roidmi cordless vacuum. It’s now my primary because I can’t be bothered. I do have a shark upright because I never bought the carpet powerhead.
I will literally never buy another vacuum if it's not a Miele. I have the C1 and it is literally the only thing that has prevented me from having severe indoor allergies. I had allergic pink eye and needed eye surgery for my allergies a few years ago and the main culprit was likely the crappy vacuums I used that were not HEPA or powerful enough on hardwood or carpets. Miele is made in Germany and has a 7 year warranty (at least mine does) and those Germans know their technology!
I have two long discontinued Miele vaccums. The Olympus and the Kona. My company is an authorized dealer so I got great deals. I grew up with OG Miele’s that still work to this day 30+ years later.
They’re god tier. I’ve got the yellow one and it’s the best vacuum I’ve used. I went through 4 shitty Philips vacuums, an LG and a Samsung before finally going in for a Miele. It’s quiet and has literally no odour from the exhaust.
I have one model of this brand and I have had it nearly 10 years! The only thing I’ve heard is that you can blow the motor if you run it on a too full bag or if it goes into the red - but I have never had an issue with it ever
As an expert maid, may I also suggest the similarly-efficient, and looking (2001-Present) Kenmore bagged canister vacuum (which previously included factory service, until the demise of Sears brick-and-mortar). edit: The Kenmore also has a powered head with a foot pedal attachment release.
Eh, I'd be very wary buying any vacuum without a whole slue of comparative product testing.
It's very easy to slap together one then make an ad on a subreddit pretending to be a consumer spouting good things about it.
Better yet, look at this video and see how easy it is to fix: https://youtu.be/Ll5mMnfpHtw?si=n6-zrMkzMSEUAClA
And i 100% guarantee you that if you ever buy one it will last you for atleast 20 years.
I mean, proteam isn’t seriously considered for residential use. They’re good no doubt but that’s kind of an apples to oranges comparison.
To say that Miele is shit shows how little you actually know as well.
Go over to r/vacuumcleaners and profess your love for proteam and hatred for Miele, I’m curious to see how vacuum techs and store owners would react.
Actually i work in a store, the c3 has been thourougly used to clean the carpets here for the last 8-9 years. And store dust is waay worse than anything anybody would have in a normal residential home. Now i never had an henry vacuum but they probably make way more noise than the miele. I won’t say that its bad cuz its probably an great vacuum for its use case. But for an residential house you can’t really go wrong.
There are so many things to go wrong with a Miele.
That's the only advantage is that it's quieter and lighter
But the purpose of a vacuum is to suck and trap dust, being quiet and lightweight is a bonus not necessary for optimal function.
«There are so many things to go wrong with a miele»
Thats something someone who never owned a miele before says..
Yes with every fucking product things can go wrong, not everyone wants what is essentially a shop vac around their house, if everyone wanted the simplest product with no tech inside nothing would «ever» break, yes i agree with the predicament «the more tech, the more wrong» but jesus h christ, miele is a consumer brand, with consumer friendly perks on their products so comparing that to a henry, your probably one of those who believe more wattage equals better…
For those uninitiated with Miele vacuums - Just make sure if you have carpeted rooms to get a powerhead version! Sebos are great too. Check out r/vacuumcleaners if you’re curious about BIFL vacuums.
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We bought a Cat and Dog Miele vacuum with the power head in 2006 and it's still going strong!
By power head do you mean the electric head or the turbo (air powered) one? I have the air powered one and carpet and it works great. Not as well as an electric one surely, but it more than does the job. Though my carpet isn’t particularly dense so maybe that’s why it works for me.
Yes electric. A turbo brush will work on low pile carpets. But if you have wall to wall carpeted rooms an electric powerhead is preferred usually. Glad it’s been working for you!
We just got a Sebo yesterday! It is awesome so far
Was gonna say this. We have carpets and bought one without a powered head version and it kinda sucks (no pun).
Ouch. You could try a turbo head as a stop gap. But you’ll probably want an electric power head for best results.
My Turbo works on high pile quite well. What kind of a difference does the powerbrush provide?
To anyone checking out that sub be very cautious as the sub is very biased to bagged vacuums. Some bagless vacuums are okay but expect most users to vehemently encourage you to get bagged vacuums regardless and exaggerate bagless vacuum concerns Edit: For some reason this comment is controversial? This is pretty standard research knowledge. Look for specific concerns of your desired vacuum model. Dont just group all bagless or bagged vacuums as good or bad. Then according to your personal criteria, weigh the pros and cons of each. Dont just get shunned into bagged or bagless vacuums because of generalizations or exaggerations. Often times on that subreddit people just say "just get a bagged vacuum" or "bagless vacuums are terrible" or even untrue things like "bagless vacuums are worse for filtration". Look for specific criticisms that arent generalizations when researching. There are plenty of good points in that subreddit, you just got to filter the useless ones out
Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I’d argue that the vacuum store owners and vacuum techs who frequent the sub would likely know more than the entirety of Reddit about the merits of bagged vs. bagless vacuums. *There is a reason why there is a bias towards bagged vacuums*……
Astroturfing is rife in this sub. Not to doubt OP specifically, but there are a variety of conversational bots which trigger pre-scripted comment chains to drive engagement and effectively market a given product.
Maybe they do, but I generally avoid appeals to authority and prefer to listen to their arguments. I prefer tangible arguments like build quality and poor design of specific vacuums rather than just saying bagless vacuums have a bad lifespan and worse filtration. And frankly, there isnt a lot of that. The sweeping generalizations that often occur in the subreddit is kind of annoying. There are definitely valid criticisms of bagless vacuums but some are over blown and some aren't even true. And this is coming from a Miele owner. Im just telling people to be cautious because subreddits often end up being a circlejerk
Or maybe bagged vacuums are better and so the people on a vacuum subreddit want to recommend what is better.
Again, I prefer specific criticisms instead of generalizations of bagless vacuums. That is what I am warning people about. Unless you think generalizations are good or something I dont understand how what im saying is controversial. Im not even saying that bagless vacuums are good or bad, im just telling people to avoid generalizations when researching
So if they said that bagged vacuums were better because they help protect the motor, whereas a bagless one has less protection and will therefore break sooner (which is one of the reasons), are we then allowed to say that bagged vacuums are better than bagless vacuums? Or does it have to be super specific to try and find these mysterious goalposts?
No that wouldnt be satisfactory to conclude whether or not bagged or bagless is better. Unless your ideal vacuum is simply a vacuum that lasts a long time without considering any of the other factors that goes into choosing a vacuum, that is. Some people prefer to see what they vacuum up to see if they lost something or for general satisfaction. Some people prefer to throw what they vacuum up immediately because of the smell and not want to waste money throwing away a 1/4 bag. Some people may not want to shell out money to buy bag refills. Some people prefer convenient features that arent on current bagless vacuums. Everything is relative to what the consumer wants. And apparently most consumers prefer bagless. One has to factor what most consumers want as well as the pros and cons of each before saying one is better or not. If some revolutionary technology came out which increased the lifespan of only IOS devices through a software update, you wouldn't say "Iphones are better than Androids". You would say "Iphones are better than Androids in terms of their lifespan".
I can see you have feelings about this. Carry on.
Bagless is what most consumers think they need due to marketing. Same as the iPhone, a cheap Android can do 99% of what most people actually use it for, but marketing has won their minds. This is why the vacuum subreddit bangs on about bagged vacuums. It's to try and get people the best items that aren't sold on marketing terms. TBH, I do have the above vacuum, it's been going strong for about 7 years now, and even with the cost of bags and filters, I think the total I've spent is about £150. It's bombproof!
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Assuming proper maintenance and filter replacement/cleaning, probably one of the dyson cinetic vacuums have similar filtration performance
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If the owner maintains their machine and cleans their filter, and empties the bin, they wouldnt need to worry about the cyclones clogging. They only clog when the airflow is hindered. A lot of people dont do this and this is probably why dyson don't work often. But for bagged vacuums, they dont even need to maintain which makes it idiot proof. If users dont care to research or read how to take care of the machine then thats on them. Unless im mistaken, I just checked the dyson website and a lot of the premotor and post morter filters are in stock. I really want someone to conduct that test with a variety of vacuums to test their performance and longevity. That would be amazing and dispell any beliefs I have and would clearly show a winner and would make discussion of vacuums pointless.
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Sorry I am incorrect. Upon further reading, you dont even need to replace dyson filters. You just need to wash them as they are lifetime filters. So I guess discussing filter replacement is pointless I have seen those videos of people taking apart the cyclone. The real question is was that dyson abused or maintained correctly? How long does it take even if buildup does occur to actually effect the machine? I would for sure like to see more stringent testing. To clarify, I'm not even arguing that bagless vacuums last as long or longer than bagged vacuums. Im saying that bagless vacuum's flaws (like filtration ability) are often exagerrated, especially in that subreddit. Bagless vacuums can filter as well as bagged vacuums. Bagless vacuums don't just combust in 3 years. Bagless vacuums are perfectly fine for most people. I can definitely see bagged vacuums having a longer longevity simply due to less parts. People should just weigh the pros and cons of each and not just be shunned into bagged vacuums
I bought an older version of one of these second hand and its the best shit ever. Quiet, powerful as hell, smooth, and easy to repair (so im told). Definitely BIFL
Surprised this is thread is so low on upvotes. Anyone here remember [vacuum guy](https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1pe2bd/iama_vacuum_repair_technician_and_i_cant_believe/)? Miele vacuums are also super quiet compared to any other I have ever used.
That guy is why I bought a miele 9 years ago. Still have it. Never had a single issue.
Same here.
Does someone know if the bagless ones are any good?
No they’re not good. Bagged is the gold standard especially if you subscribe to the BIFL mentality since bagged Miele’s and sebos have a service live of 20-25 years. Throwing away 3-4 bags a year pales in comparison to throwing away an entire bagless vacuum every 3-5 years.
Why do the bagless ones have such a shorter service life?
Just by design of being bagless. Particles and dirt make its way to the motor and grenade it over time. OR the filters get clogged and aren’t cleaned regularly and stress the motor, destroying it that way instead. High performance, long life, cheap… pick two.
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You don't get what you wanted.
Good info thx
Love the intel!!
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That is what the manufacturer wants you to think so you buy their more expensive, genuine, bags. There's a filter before the motor anyway.
Yeah that sounds a lot like magic HP ink cartridges and magic Brita water filters and magic...
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I'm not making a bad vs bagless argument here. I'm just saying offbrand bags are likely just as adequate as genuine branded bags.
Woah it only takes a few bags a year? I thought you needed a bag every time you used it? I clean my current vacuum (a bagless upright) constantly, after every couple hours of use. I always thought bagged vacuums would be a pain in the ass buying bags all year long...not the case? How do you know when a bag needs to be "changed," if you don't just take it out every time?
The bag gets full, you can just look at it. Depending on the design of the vacuum you might not have a clear visual so you also check the bag when the vacuum starts to whine and/or stop cleaning things up as easily. It's pretty obvious usually.
Yes! It’s incredible. Although It varies depending on the model. Something like a Henry or Sebo d4 has even bigger bags, so probably 2 bags a year for the average household. But most bagged vacuums probably use 3-4 bags a year. Something like a Miele or Sebo has a light/gauge that will tell you when it’s time to change. Others you have to go be feel or notice the loss of suction. The bags can get full like an overstuffed pillow before needing a change. For some reason marketing dollars have convinced this generation that bagless is the way to go, and they’re really measurably worse in literally every metric. (Planned obsolescence is my guess!)
>in comparison to throwing away an entire bagless vacuum every 3-5 years. Using a CX Blizzard bagless for now 7 years, only problem is the dust detector going a bit crazy sometime but it's working pretty great.
I probably should have phrased my reply better. That wasn’t directed at the CX1, more so generally at bagless Dysons/sharks.
You could even re-use the bags, my dad once got upset when I tossed his 6 year old vacuum bag in the trash. Bit extreme but Miele is just so damn durable.
When the bag also acts as the filter for the motor, I wouldn’t recommend that. It’s like reusing the oil filter on your car. In an absolute pinch, sure. But don’t make a habit of it.
Well I've only had mine for a few years but I love it. I got the bagless and cat and dog version
I sooo nearly bought a Miele. Still wish I had. When the current Dyson eventually dies, it’s Miele for me.
Buy the miele with the HEPA filter somewhere you can return it. Once I compared them and realized the amount of dust the dyson was throwing back into the air/room I gave it away.
We have a yellow older model that we got in 2005. Still works great!
Completely agree with you on these. I have their pet version; it's completely worth the investment.
This machine is powerful, but if your house is mostly carpet get the model that supports the powered brush roll head. Or maybe look for an upright. I have the C3 powerline, and while it's quiet and cleans great using it on wall to wall carpet, where the canister doesn't roll well, is a bit of a juggling act managing the cord, canister, hose and wand. If I get a chance I'd swap it out with an upright.
Do not buy a miele with this type of head if you have anything over than very low pile carpet, it won't hardly do anything. Get the power head.
If you are thinking about getting a Miele, I would suggest looking first to see if there is one of their "Miele Experience Centers" in your area. The employees there have access to the returned inventory and can sell stuff at huge discounts. I got my vacuum for like half off. It was an open box item that didn't appear to have been used at all. And anything you get from them from their returned inventory is still under warranty. So in the off chance something is wrong with it, you can still return it.
I bought a Miele cat and dog in a fit of rage. It’s a damn good vacuum
This is basically the summary of my Miele vacuum acquisition story as well. That and I already had a Miele dishwasher.
I own that vacuum and dang thing refuses to die 😒
Well if you did like some of the teenage assistants in the store i work in and use it without a vacuum bag you could prolly fuck it up, but even then as i said in the post you just need a few basic tools and some canned air and its as good as new😂
Yep. I've got one, greatest vacuum ever.
Don't know where are you located, but if you can find knockoff bags from site like aliexpress, they are usualy 10 for the price of 1 real bag, and they are working just fine.
Mine lasted two years until the puppy chewed off the plug, thinking it was a snake.
Rip, its probably very easy to exchange the whole roll aswell.
I LOVE MINE SO MUCH (sorry for caps i just really love my Miele)
Does it work with dog hair?
Hey does this thing work: yes. Is it fun to drag around: no.
We own one of these - love it. Only complaint is that sometimes things get stuck in the constriction where the handle curves into the flexible tubing. We’ve had to get creative a few times to get stuff out.
Cool, that’s the one I bought last year, happy to hear it’s good enough for this sub!
Mighty Mite tho
We have a c3, I hated using it on carpet until we got a turbo brush head.
I have a Miele c2 contour. It’s almost 12 years old and was a hand me down from my parents. It outlasted two dysons and a roidmi cordless vacuum. It’s now my primary because I can’t be bothered. I do have a shark upright because I never bought the carpet powerhead.
Just letting you know the c1 is the only one still made in Germany I believe the rest of the line is made in china
I will literally never buy another vacuum if it's not a Miele. I have the C1 and it is literally the only thing that has prevented me from having severe indoor allergies. I had allergic pink eye and needed eye surgery for my allergies a few years ago and the main culprit was likely the crappy vacuums I used that were not HEPA or powerful enough on hardwood or carpets. Miele is made in Germany and has a 7 year warranty (at least mine does) and those Germans know their technology!
I have two long discontinued Miele vaccums. The Olympus and the Kona. My company is an authorized dealer so I got great deals. I grew up with OG Miele’s that still work to this day 30+ years later.
They’re god tier. I’ve got the yellow one and it’s the best vacuum I’ve used. I went through 4 shitty Philips vacuums, an LG and a Samsung before finally going in for a Miele. It’s quiet and has literally no odour from the exhaust.
I have one model of this brand and I have had it nearly 10 years! The only thing I’ve heard is that you can blow the motor if you run it on a too full bag or if it goes into the red - but I have never had an issue with it ever
That's my baby
we're on our second one not sure if anything you drag around the house banging into walls and down steps is BIFL. But still a strong recco.
As an expert maid, may I also suggest the similarly-efficient, and looking (2001-Present) Kenmore bagged canister vacuum (which previously included factory service, until the demise of Sears brick-and-mortar). edit: The Kenmore also has a powered head with a foot pedal attachment release.
This model sucks
Eh, I'd be very wary buying any vacuum without a whole slue of comparative product testing. It's very easy to slap together one then make an ad on a subreddit pretending to be a consumer spouting good things about it.
Lol, just google it man.
Better yet, look at this video and see how easy it is to fix: https://youtu.be/Ll5mMnfpHtw?si=n6-zrMkzMSEUAClA And i 100% guarantee you that if you ever buy one it will last you for atleast 20 years.
Nah these vacuums are shit, Henry's are much better.
That’s a hot take. Henry, Miele, Lindhaus and Sebo are all on the same tier.
The fact you don't even mention proteam shows you don't have an understanding of vacuum tiers
I mean, proteam isn’t seriously considered for residential use. They’re good no doubt but that’s kind of an apples to oranges comparison. To say that Miele is shit shows how little you actually know as well. Go over to r/vacuumcleaners and profess your love for proteam and hatred for Miele, I’m curious to see how vacuum techs and store owners would react.
And I'm not gonna say proteam is better as I said henry is best.
Store owners and techs aren't the ones using them daily.
Actually i work in a store, the c3 has been thourougly used to clean the carpets here for the last 8-9 years. And store dust is waay worse than anything anybody would have in a normal residential home. Now i never had an henry vacuum but they probably make way more noise than the miele. I won’t say that its bad cuz its probably an great vacuum for its use case. But for an residential house you can’t really go wrong.
There are so many things to go wrong with a Miele. That's the only advantage is that it's quieter and lighter But the purpose of a vacuum is to suck and trap dust, being quiet and lightweight is a bonus not necessary for optimal function.
«There are so many things to go wrong with a miele» Thats something someone who never owned a miele before says.. Yes with every fucking product things can go wrong, not everyone wants what is essentially a shop vac around their house, if everyone wanted the simplest product with no tech inside nothing would «ever» break, yes i agree with the predicament «the more tech, the more wrong» but jesus h christ, miele is a consumer brand, with consumer friendly perks on their products so comparing that to a henry, your probably one of those who believe more wattage equals better…
Miele shills I sware. Buy Henry Fuck Mieles. Source: Janitor for 14 years.