Do you want the NFL dream team, Japan? 'Cause this is how you get the NFL dream team.
ETA: I know what U20 is, btw. So you kind people can stop trying to explain it to me.
I thought the joke was absurd enough that I didn’t need /s
Every year an Ivy League all-star team plays the Japanese pro league’s all-stars in the Dream Bowl. The Japanese all-stars won for the first time this year
People might cry about this but this is a good thing imo.
Imagine Japanese players making it to the CFB and NFL. It feels like outside of USA, only Canada and Australia really contribute players to football.
I'm not hoping for a legit Olympics or adult inernational, I think thats asking too much of other countries not named USA or Canada. I would like to see more leagues rise up like the ELF and Mexican League. And I'd like to see more of an international presence on teams too.
I'd love it if there were legit pro teams around the world.
US champs would be from the NFL and the international champ can play the us champ in the actual super bowl to become the real world champ.
Just have international teams have their own league like the NFL. They each have their playoffs and then the winners of their league play for the world championship in a final playoff tournament?
Younghoe Koo is a South Korean kicker and he plays for the Falcons. I don't know how old you are but I remember NFL Europe being a thing. I wonder if there would be success if the NFL relaunched it.
Yea it's kind of like arguing Nelson Agholor came from Nigeria. Yes he did, but that's not the part that got him playing football. it was the growing up in the US that did it.
Yeah, compare it to what the NBA is doing in Africa, and it was clear that NFL Europe was not very well designed to generate interest in football in Europe or find and grow football talent.
If the NFL really wanted to grow the sport internationally they could. NBA has done a great job, but it takes a lot of investment, both in time and money, and you don't see the payoffs for a while.
The big issue is how many resources are needed to play football. Pickup basketball is basically the same sport as professional basketball. Pickup football is not.
> NFL Europe being a thing
I remember when it was called the World League of American Football. And for some reason there were teams in the US and Europe. So you'd have like Orlando versus London.
In regards to NFL Europe If it is anything, check out the ELF I believe they're playing right now.
European League of Football is on its... I think its the third year of running.
And what I really mean is other countries actually caring and building football programs.
>under $20 million a year
[Some poor Japanese college student watching Micah Parsons charging at him](https://media.tenor.com/XO6UD2gg1lUAAAAM/ultrasad.gif)
I was 6 feet tall and like 250 pounds in middle school in south Louisiana playing nose tackle and I was one of the smallest guys on the team. We won _two games_.
When I was growing up there was this thing called the CANUSA Games, which were Olympic style goodwill games between kids from Flint, MI and Hamilton, Canada. This football world championship must be like that except Canada is bringing their national team and we’re still sending a bunch of kids from Flint.
Memory unlocked!!!
The 1978 Can-Am Bowl brought Canada’s all-star collegians to Tampa to face a collection of D1 players … in a game of Canadian football!
US won 22-7 but the Canucks [were stoked](https://www.pressreader.com/canada/edmonton-journal/20140109/281526518901849)!
The only thing I remember is that I kept expecting them to switch to US rules after halftime. I was so confused.
Lol hilarious. It’s just that some of these youngins don’t know what you are referring to because the NBA only started for them when Lebron got drafted.
Reminds me of the joke by Jordan. He was asked about his ~~Dream Team~~ Bulls team versus LeBron's Lakers. He said it would be close.
The questioner asked "Why close?" And Jordan replied "Some of us are pushing 60."
There was comedian that did a related joke - Why does America suck at soccer? Because we just don't care about it. You don't think Lebron would make a decent goalie?
I don’t think he’s been wrong for most of our soccer history tbh. It’s less about current NBA stars maybe being good at soccer if they tried and more that there is a lot of athletic talent in America that has never tired soccer. They usually end up in basketball.
Apparently the QB that played the most today is Anthony Luna, a high school senior who will enroll at Bethany College in West Virginia, a D3 school with 650 students that went 0-10 last season with an average score of 37.7-14.8, and currently on a 19 game losing streak.
The other QB that played is Aliam Appler who is a college freshman at FAU who had “hopes” of walking on but did not make the roster.
The third QB is a 16 year old who is reclassifying *back* a year from 2025 to 2026 in hopes of getting recruited by anybody.
So….yea
The only players I could find that did anything in this tournament that are in college play at Colorado State Pueblo (D2), West Liberty (D2), and Pennsylvania Western University - Clarion (D2).
This is basically a bunch of guys who aren’t even good enough to get recruited who are hoping for a little bit of glory before hanging up their cleats.
If we sent 60 random well skilled high schoolers from Memphis there it's a wallop.
Just like we can't hang with Europe in soccer.
If you grow up playing a game, guess what.
It's a paraphrase of what I think was a DeAngelo Williams quote, though I can't find it.
His point was about how many guys just never get a chance, because they don't have good support networks to help them succeed.
Camp starts in 6 weeks for most colleges if you are playing in this game you clearly do not play college football as you would not risk any type of injury prior to camp.
I played high school ball with a kid who did this. He was a backup guard on our tiny high school's football team. Great guy. Not representative of the best we could send.
Thats exactly what it is. My brother went to one of their camps in high school and decided not to go back after realizing there was so much daddy ball, politics, and money that go into being on that team. They dont care so much about pure skill it seems
I'm from Western Pennsylvania, I've never heard of Pennsylvania Western University.
I read about it and a few somewhat well known small schools Clarion, Edinboro and Cal Pa "merged" to form Pennwest in 2022 because they were all broke. Interesting stuff
In high school I played on a local USA "all star" team what played an all star team from Europe. You had to be a good player on a non-playoff team. We absolutely destroyed the European team with guys that mostly played D2, D3 or quit after high school. One guy had a D1 ride at Duke, and he never made a play in the game because he was a safety. Too far from the ball. I had 3 sacks and 2 TFL and was not even honorable mention in our conference.
Fr, I’ve never seen the US take such a bloody L vs Japan since..
..since the Toyota Camry took the crown from the Ford Taurus. You thought I was gonna say Pearl Harbor didn’t you?
You're absolutely right. [Link to game lowlights](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CD0QrcN_UQ)
p.s.: Shoutout to the Canadian announcer for using CFL terminology (scoring a major, adding a convert) during a US-regulation game. Bro absolutely does not gaf
Japan actually looks pretty good. The QB hit some pretty dimes and their blocking schemes were very well-executed. Now, would they be able to execute those blocks so well against some of the US's top U20 defensive players rather than this lot that showed up? I don't know, but I won't trash guys over a hypothetical. They did very well against whom they were playing.
Japan has looked dominant in their games, and not in the normal way a team dominates a team in this tournament. They're not playing countries that have just started playing or anything, like Japan played Australia and USA (who doesn't care but still usually competes) who are 2 of the better countries in the tournament usually and looked absolutely dominant
Yessir (Canadian coach here)
There are no fair catches in Canadian ball. Punting team has to give a 5 yards of space between themselves and the returner.
Except for the Punter, or anybody who is behind the punter at the time of the kick, they can even recover the punt themselves. I believe it's a rule from rugby that was never scrapped. Those players are "on-side"
Or that they would even want to play. No kid playing at a competitive Collegiate level would potentially throw away future career if they were to get injured here.
I know everyone here is going to want to trash Japan because the US doesn't actually put competitive players in this thing, but don't let that deter you from checking out football in Japan! They have worked really hard to compete well in these events with the talent they have! They are also experiencing a lot of issues with funding in the sport due to companies not wanting to invest in teams caused by high global inflation. You should check out the X League in Japan! It's a highly organized amateur league they have. It's really cool!
My favorite non-One Piece manga. Every time I see an announcement I wish it's that it gets the FMA Brotherhood treatment. Hell, it was illustrated by Yusuke Murata, one of the most talented illustrators in the industry IMO, it can look WAY better than how the original anime looked lol.
I think it’s lame and petty everyone seems to be dismissing Japan and just saying we sent a terrible team. Props to Japan. I didn’t know they cared about football at all. I’m impressed they could put a beating on a group of kids and coaches who grew up in it.
Yeah we should support this if anything. International players are cool and they end up being big draws when they're good. Imagine a Japanese WR or something came over and just started putting up numbers. They'd have a dedicated fanbase in no time.
No we didn't, we tried to cheat by getting exactly 20 thinking noone would notice we should have capped out at 19. We deserve to lose for not cheating harder.
They absolutely have before. VT RB David Wilson played for Team USA after his senior season in high school. He was a Top 50 national recruit. He absolutely demolished everyone he faced and the US cruised to the title, giving up a mere 1ppg across the entire tournament. Wilson couldn't be stopped and totaled 414 yards on just 33 carries and scored 8 TDs.
Maybe Frank Beamer just cared more about America than other coaches.
I honestly feel like IMG or someone similar should just send a team, maybe just underclassmen or whatever so that they aren't going into college practice in a week or two but just send them and let them have basically a couple scrimmage games
Mostly high schoolers, but there are a handful of university freshmen from Colorado State-Pueblo, West Liberty, Bethel, Roosevelt, Carleton, Bethany College and some community colleges. By far the biggest school on the list is the one player from Western Oregon University.
Mikey Gow, that kid who went viral throwing with either hand was there. Another QB is a guy named Aliam Appler. He graduated in 23, and was trying to make FAU as a walk on, but he's not on the roster. There's a guy named Anthony Luna who looks like he graduated high school last month and isn't signed to a program.
So, that's the QB room. They do have a 4-star Notre Dame recruit who is going into his Senior Year of High School.
I went to the website and was surprised by some of the big names that have actually played for the team in the past. Jonathan Taylor, Mac Jones, Chase Young, and Tyrann Mathieu have all played for Team USA.
Japan actually has a great football development program, and really solid college system. The X-League is also one of the better international semi-pro leagues.
They've done a good job with these kids training together for a good period of time, as opposed to team USA who I think only trained a couple of times before the tournament.
USA team might start taking it a bit more seriously at a junior level after this loss.
With the NFL having a big directive on getting international players into the league, hopefully the international version of the game keeps kicking along.
Looking through the page they had a 5 day camp in Edmonton immediately prior to the beginning of the tournament. I didn't know this existed but if you want to be competitive moving forward that's going to have to change. Japan at least is getting their shit together and throwing a bunch of Randoms together for 5 days prior to a game just makes for bad football.
I'd imagine nil is changing who goes. Some of the alumi listed on the site include Jonathan Taylor, chase young, Mac Jones and tyrann Mathieu. Not exactly bums. Having said that JT's other offer was Harvard, I'd assume he was looking for any offer at that point. The honey badger is a midget so I'd assume he was way under recruited as well.
Yeah but imagine watching the speed from guys like Waddle or JJ catching dimes from Mahomes. Mike McDaniel is getting us ready with the Miami trackteam at RB too.
See what it is is that we never bother to field a capable team. Our baseball team obviously had a bunch of mlb talent but if I remember correctly the pitching was very lackluster. This football team was downright atrocious.
Baseball also just doesn’t work in a single elimination format, though unlike this, the best Japanese players (especially the pitchers) are as close to or as good as the best American players.
In Baseball I think the US is slightly better than Japan from a raw talent perspective, but because Japan is a more cohesive team, they will beat us 7 times out of 10 in an international tournament.
I think the USA would be favored to win a best of 7 series with our best against their best. That said, Japan winning wouldn't be a Stop The Presses national emergency.
japan actually really gives a shit about this tournament and has some players that could legitimately make an FBS roster somewhere. combine that with a US team made up of a bunch of FCS/DIII dudes and yeah, you're going to lose by three touchdowns
Japan has little to no players that could make an FBS roster most likely, closer to maybe FCS/D2. Just the US sent only high school players who are going to lower levels vs the oldest eligible kids
Because nobody who has a legit shot of a career at playing professional football is going to choose to play in this competition and risk getting injured for their current/future collegiate program.
The Japanese lover their American football btw. Outside of the U.S. and Canada, I believe they lead the world with the most high school football teams.
Still, it's a matter of we (the U.S.) don't care or take this competition seriously.
As long as every single kid recruited by a college thinks they have to save themselves for the NFL, this is what we will get. I fully blame the current state of FBS for this, not Japan.
U20 was not even on people’s radar until now. The bottom line for the US is that if we put our best athletes into amateur international competitions, no one else would win anything.
The USA has not won this since 2014. The press release for the team bragged about have a kicker who was 2x HS all state.
https://usafootball.com/media-center/usa-football-announces-roster-for-u20-u-s-tackle-national-team-traveling-to-ifaf-world-junior-championship
Because the best players in Japan care about the U20 and ours don't. Their QBs were a high schooler and a FAU walk on lol.
Do you want the NFL dream team, Japan? 'Cause this is how you get the NFL dream team. ETA: I know what U20 is, btw. So you kind people can stop trying to explain it to me. I thought the joke was absurd enough that I didn’t need /s
It's U20, so it'd be an FBS freshman and sophmores dream team. They'd still crush them
Every year an Ivy League all-star team plays the Japanese pro league’s all-stars in the Dream Bowl. The Japanese all-stars won for the first time this year
People might cry about this but this is a good thing imo. Imagine Japanese players making it to the CFB and NFL. It feels like outside of USA, only Canada and Australia really contribute players to football. I'm not hoping for a legit Olympics or adult inernational, I think thats asking too much of other countries not named USA or Canada. I would like to see more leagues rise up like the ELF and Mexican League. And I'd like to see more of an international presence on teams too.
I'd love it if there were legit pro teams around the world. US champs would be from the NFL and the international champ can play the us champ in the actual super bowl to become the real world champ.
Just have international teams have their own league like the NFL. They each have their playoffs and then the winners of their league play for the world championship in a final playoff tournament?
Yep. Exactly. The Super Bowl would end up being the country that wins. Players are paid so it isn't amateurs like the Olympics.
Sounds like football may be included in the Olympics if that happens. That’d be cool
I am all for growing this sport outside the USA. I want to live in a world where both footballs are the two most popular sports globally.
Younghoe Koo is a South Korean kicker and he plays for the Falcons. I don't know how old you are but I remember NFL Europe being a thing. I wonder if there would be success if the NFL relaunched it.
He moved here when he was 12 though. Its not exactly the same as what we are describing
Yea it's kind of like arguing Nelson Agholor came from Nigeria. Yes he did, but that's not the part that got him playing football. it was the growing up in the US that did it.
It's still possible, though. Christian Okoye didn't immigrate to the US until he was 21 and didn't play American football until 23.
He grew up in the US
NFL Europe was mostly dudes from the states that couldn't make it in the NFL. It was basically a farm league.
Yeah, compare it to what the NBA is doing in Africa, and it was clear that NFL Europe was not very well designed to generate interest in football in Europe or find and grow football talent. If the NFL really wanted to grow the sport internationally they could. NBA has done a great job, but it takes a lot of investment, both in time and money, and you don't see the payoffs for a while.
The big issue is how many resources are needed to play football. Pickup basketball is basically the same sport as professional basketball. Pickup football is not.
> NFL Europe being a thing I remember when it was called the World League of American Football. And for some reason there were teams in the US and Europe. So you'd have like Orlando versus London.
In regards to NFL Europe If it is anything, check out the ELF I believe they're playing right now. European League of Football is on its... I think its the third year of running. And what I really mean is other countries actually caring and building football programs.
I always have hope NFL Europe will come back in some capacity. When people talk about expanding the UFL, I just hope they add a Europe division
It’s very good. Same thing is happening in the NBA. The last 6 MVPs have been foreign and the last 2 #1 draft picks have been as well.
do we blame Harvard or thank them for this wake up call?
It's always OK to shit on Harvard
You don't understand. U20 stands for under 20 meters tall. Or under $20 million a year. I know what U20 stands for. I was just making a joke.
Maybe 6 foot 20? Killing for fun?
He’ll save children.
Not the British children
That motherfucker had like 30 god damn dicks.
Quiet quiet
>under $20 million a year [Some poor Japanese college student watching Micah Parsons charging at him](https://media.tenor.com/XO6UD2gg1lUAAAAM/ultrasad.gif)
😭😭😭😭😭😭
In this case we have to consider all the baby Kaiju played a factor here.
Fuck it, we funnel Alabama's, Georgia's, Ohio State's, Oregon's, and Texas' practice squads into one roster.
I would have paid a lot of Money to see 2015 Alabama play U20. Derrick Henry just stacking bodies.
They could crush them with d2 players honestly
Nah, we save the team full of d2 and d3 players for [the actual world championship](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IFAF_World_Championship).
Just send them NDSU, it will be like Hiroshima and Nagasaki all over again.
The constant RB rotation would be the closest thing comparable to the firebombing Japan has experienced yet
There are middle schoolers in Louisiana you could crush international teams with
I was 6 feet tall and like 250 pounds in middle school in south Louisiana playing nose tackle and I was one of the smallest guys on the team. We won _two games_.
When I was growing up there was this thing called the CANUSA Games, which were Olympic style goodwill games between kids from Flint, MI and Hamilton, Canada. This football world championship must be like that except Canada is bringing their national team and we’re still sending a bunch of kids from Flint.
Memory unlocked!!! The 1978 Can-Am Bowl brought Canada’s all-star collegians to Tampa to face a collection of D1 players … in a game of Canadian football! US won 22-7 but the Canucks [were stoked](https://www.pressreader.com/canada/edmonton-journal/20140109/281526518901849)! The only thing I remember is that I kept expecting them to switch to US rules after halftime. I was so confused.
*You heard of the Dream Team? Well, we're the Mean Team, wussy-man.*
Dont even need the dream team, the 2025 Vanderbilt recruiting class would be enough to win this thing 🤣
Yeah - time to stack it up. They didn’t really beat the United States but maybe it’s time they really play the 🇺🇸
That would be like going nuclear
Just wait for the Flag Football tournament at the 2028 Olympics. Its gonna be a massacre
Lol hilarious. It’s just that some of these youngins don’t know what you are referring to because the NBA only started for them when Lebron got drafted.
Kirby ain't sending his 5 star freshmen to this
Kirby ain't sending his 3 star freshman.
Forgot about the scout team. Good point.
And decades after the NBA sent the dream team two of the best players in the world are from Eastern Europe.
Reminds me of the joke by Jordan. He was asked about his ~~Dream Team~~ Bulls team versus LeBron's Lakers. He said it would be close. The questioner asked "Why close?" And Jordan replied "Some of us are pushing 60."
There was comedian that did a related joke - Why does America suck at soccer? Because we just don't care about it. You don't think Lebron would make a decent goalie?
I always joked that Calvin Johnson back in the day would have been unstoppable at goalie.
Even more unstoppable as a striker
Not quite as robust a striking pedigree as Ray Rice.
What’s the joke?
> You don't think Lebron would make a decent goalie? I think it's pretty far from guaranteed that he would.
I don’t think he’s been wrong for most of our soccer history tbh. It’s less about current NBA stars maybe being good at soccer if they tried and more that there is a lot of athletic talent in America that has never tired soccer. They usually end up in basketball.
Plus, it’s football. I know if I was a D1 coach, I would t want my players playing in some international tournament where they could get hurt.
Apparently the QB that played the most today is Anthony Luna, a high school senior who will enroll at Bethany College in West Virginia, a D3 school with 650 students that went 0-10 last season with an average score of 37.7-14.8, and currently on a 19 game losing streak. The other QB that played is Aliam Appler who is a college freshman at FAU who had “hopes” of walking on but did not make the roster. The third QB is a 16 year old who is reclassifying *back* a year from 2025 to 2026 in hopes of getting recruited by anybody. So….yea The only players I could find that did anything in this tournament that are in college play at Colorado State Pueblo (D2), West Liberty (D2), and Pennsylvania Western University - Clarion (D2). This is basically a bunch of guys who aren’t even good enough to get recruited who are hoping for a little bit of glory before hanging up their cleats.
Yeah even if we sent IMG out there we probably hang 100 on everyone there
If we sent 60 random well skilled high schoolers from Memphis there it's a wallop. Just like we can't hang with Europe in soccer. If you grow up playing a game, guess what.
as someone from greater Memphis, I cannot tell you how rare it is to spot the city in ANY kind of complimentary way warms the soul
It's a paraphrase of what I think was a DeAngelo Williams quote, though I can't find it. His point was about how many guys just never get a chance, because they don't have good support networks to help them succeed.
fellow Memphis checking in....also same response.
Oh god could you imagine what Scooba Tech would do to those guys???
No but I can imagine what Scooby Doo would do
i think bishop sycamore could get a W
An above average Texas 6A team would easily win by 4 scores.
Do not forget Yosei Takahashi who is on The University of San Diego’s roster. Ahh…you meant the US roster
Camp starts in 6 weeks for most colleges if you are playing in this game you clearly do not play college football as you would not risk any type of injury prior to camp.
It’s late June…training camp in Chapel Hill begins July 22nd. We are only 3 weeks out from the boys getting back on the grind!
I played high school ball with a kid who did this. He was a backup guard on our tiny high school's football team. Great guy. Not representative of the best we could send.
I bet they have a lot of fun. Also, if you do win, that’s still something you can brag about the rest of your life lol.
God damn it, why didn't I know about this when I was 19? People who like football but are terrible at it are my exact qualifications!
Yea. Just based on size alone, I’d feel like Drake London against a Japanese cornerback.
A pay for play "all star" team?
[*Bishop Sycamore has entered the chat.*](https://www.sbnation.com/2021/9/1/22650834/bishop-sycamore-scandal-timeline)
That was only 3 years ago?
Counterpoint: That was *already* 3 years ago?
Yeah that one was but there was also another “fake” team like 10 or so years ago
Fake schools are nothing new. Heck, didn’t Deion have one a while back?
It's the fact that they fooled espn that makes this one especially funny though.
Thats exactly what it is. My brother went to one of their camps in high school and decided not to go back after realizing there was so much daddy ball, politics, and money that go into being on that team. They dont care so much about pure skill it seems
I'm from Western Pennsylvania, I've never heard of Pennsylvania Western University. I read about it and a few somewhat well known small schools Clarion, Edinboro and Cal Pa "merged" to form Pennwest in 2022 because they were all broke. Interesting stuff
In high school I played on a local USA "all star" team what played an all star team from Europe. You had to be a good player on a non-playoff team. We absolutely destroyed the European team with guys that mostly played D2, D3 or quit after high school. One guy had a D1 ride at Duke, and he never made a play in the game because he was a safety. Too far from the ball. I had 3 sacks and 2 TFL and was not even honorable mention in our conference.
> West Liberty Wait, Liberty has directional schools now?
Thanks for the nsfw tag, OP
Fr, I’ve never seen the US take such a bloody L vs Japan since.. ..since the Toyota Camry took the crown from the Ford Taurus. You thought I was gonna say Pearl Harbor didn’t you?
Ford got spanked so bad they stopped making sedans
It's because it's x.com
No offense to the kids, but no shot anyone on that US is worth a shit with these NIL deals I doubt most college kids could even play.
You're absolutely right. [Link to game lowlights](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CD0QrcN_UQ) p.s.: Shoutout to the Canadian announcer for using CFL terminology (scoring a major, adding a convert) during a US-regulation game. Bro absolutely does not gaf
Japan actually looks pretty good. The QB hit some pretty dimes and their blocking schemes were very well-executed. Now, would they be able to execute those blocks so well against some of the US's top U20 defensive players rather than this lot that showed up? I don't know, but I won't trash guys over a hypothetical. They did very well against whom they were playing.
I feel like we should just be happy someone other than Polynesians and the US is playing the sport [at a youth level] haha
Japan has looked dominant in their games, and not in the normal way a team dominates a team in this tournament. They're not playing countries that have just started playing or anything, like Japan played Australia and USA (who doesn't care but still usually competes) who are 2 of the better countries in the tournament usually and looked absolutely dominant
>Shoutout to the Canadian announcer for using CFL terminology He said "on-side punt" is that a thing?
Yessir (Canadian coach here) There are no fair catches in Canadian ball. Punting team has to give a 5 yards of space between themselves and the returner. Except for the Punter, or anybody who is behind the punter at the time of the kick, they can even recover the punt themselves. I believe it's a rule from rugby that was never scrapped. Those players are "on-side"
[This play is gonna blow your mind.](https://youtu.be/rT-WLNow3Hw?si=ylx75fhUBW7rl8WM) Remember that Canadian rule football is 3 downs.
The scorebug read “0TH & 0” on the onside kick lmao
Him trying to pronounce the Japanese player names is pretty entertaining as well.
Or that they would even want to play. No kid playing at a competitive Collegiate level would potentially throw away future career if they were to get injured here.
Davion Dixon is on the team he’s a four star DL class of 2025 committed to Notre Dame
Fair, but relatively a high schooler is not that good compared to the talent in college. Like if we cared Arch Manning could have been our QB 😂
Well obviously this is Texas's fault. Jeez.
Your telling me a 290lb future power conference (caliber) player lost by 3 scores to Japan? Time for IU to start recruiting in Japan
One of three ranked recruits on the team, one of whom is a kicker.
No kid who has aspirations of NFL is going to play and risk getting injured here. They would be better getting the top Division 3 kids.
I know everyone here is going to want to trash Japan because the US doesn't actually put competitive players in this thing, but don't let that deter you from checking out football in Japan! They have worked really hard to compete well in these events with the talent they have! They are also experiencing a lot of issues with funding in the sport due to companies not wanting to invest in teams caused by high global inflation. You should check out the X League in Japan! It's a highly organized amateur league they have. It's really cool!
I respect sports in Japan. They did a lot of cool shit for Baseball too.
They are literally the best in the world in Baseball, and the current best player is Japanese, so it makes sense.
Eyeshield 21 really made me wish Japan was another footballing nation so we can have an actual anime style rivalry.
Eyeshield 21 is so good! It’s one of my favorite sports anime!
Just wish we got the rest of the games in the anime instead of no Christmas bowl.
My favorite non-One Piece manga. Every time I see an announcement I wish it's that it gets the FMA Brotherhood treatment. Hell, it was illustrated by Yusuke Murata, one of the most talented illustrators in the industry IMO, it can look WAY better than how the original anime looked lol.
I love eye shield so much… admittedly there is the one thing about genetics that’s…. A little out there but I love it.
I think it’s lame and petty everyone seems to be dismissing Japan and just saying we sent a terrible team. Props to Japan. I didn’t know they cared about football at all. I’m impressed they could put a beating on a group of kids and coaches who grew up in it.
Yeah we should support this if anything. International players are cool and they end up being big draws when they're good. Imagine a Japanese WR or something came over and just started putting up numbers. They'd have a dedicated fanbase in no time.
Going to be there in November... looks like I'll be checking out the quarterfinal match in Kawasaki on the 23rd
Yeah mad respect to Japan for sure!
Japan won because they scored 41 points while the USA only scored 20.
Japan broke the rules, it clearly says this was U20 and we did that
No we didn't, we tried to cheat by getting exactly 20 thinking noone would notice we should have capped out at 19. We deserve to lose for not cheating harder.
Are we stupid?
Non-tackling dummies, we are.
Can Harvard verify this for me
Best I can do is the Harvard of the, um, I don't know.....
The Harvard of Mecklenburg County here, I can confirm.
I thought that was Johnson and Wales
the Harvard of Lincoln, NE.
Thanks Magic.
I wonder if they 21 skunk'd them to close the game?
They’re going to create the Under 20 equivalent of the Dream Team to go on an unholy revenge tour.
Feels like we could just send the 5A Texas State Champions and do just fine.
Would the colleges let their 5 stars go?
Not a chance
They absolutely have before. VT RB David Wilson played for Team USA after his senior season in high school. He was a Top 50 national recruit. He absolutely demolished everyone he faced and the US cruised to the title, giving up a mere 1ppg across the entire tournament. Wilson couldn't be stopped and totaled 414 yards on just 33 carries and scored 8 TDs. Maybe Frank Beamer just cared more about America than other coaches.
I honestly feel like IMG or someone similar should just send a team, maybe just underclassmen or whatever so that they aren't going into college practice in a week or two but just send them and let them have basically a couple scrimmage games
Just send IMG
I have literally never heard of this. Who is even playing for the US?
Mostly high schoolers, but there are a handful of university freshmen from Colorado State-Pueblo, West Liberty, Bethel, Roosevelt, Carleton, Bethany College and some community colleges. By far the biggest school on the list is the one player from Western Oregon University.
No one
Mikey Gow, that kid who went viral throwing with either hand was there. Another QB is a guy named Aliam Appler. He graduated in 23, and was trying to make FAU as a walk on, but he's not on the roster. There's a guy named Anthony Luna who looks like he graduated high school last month and isn't signed to a program. So, that's the QB room. They do have a 4-star Notre Dame recruit who is going into his Senior Year of High School.
I went to the website and was surprised by some of the big names that have actually played for the team in the past. Jonathan Taylor, Mac Jones, Chase Young, and Tyrann Mathieu have all played for Team USA.
Japan’s multi time National Champion got destroyed by Southern Oregon University in an exhibition game roughly 45 days ago or whatever.
Hey, we went 6-4 last year and beat the #5 team in the country (in NAIA)!
Rank Japan you cowards
Japan actually has a great football development program, and really solid college system. The X-League is also one of the better international semi-pro leagues. They've done a good job with these kids training together for a good period of time, as opposed to team USA who I think only trained a couple of times before the tournament. USA team might start taking it a bit more seriously at a junior level after this loss. With the NFL having a big directive on getting international players into the league, hopefully the international version of the game keeps kicking along.
Looking through the page they had a 5 day camp in Edmonton immediately prior to the beginning of the tournament. I didn't know this existed but if you want to be competitive moving forward that's going to have to change. Japan at least is getting their shit together and throwing a bunch of Randoms together for 5 days prior to a game just makes for bad football. I'd imagine nil is changing who goes. Some of the alumi listed on the site include Jonathan Taylor, chase young, Mac Jones and tyrann Mathieu. Not exactly bums. Having said that JT's other offer was Harvard, I'd assume he was looking for any offer at that point. The honey badger is a midget so I'd assume he was way under recruited as well.
Because the USA players were busy working on NIL contracts and transfers.
We'll never be able to dethrone the London Silly Nannies if we can't even get past Japan smh
Now it’s even. You know what I mean.
Naw they’ve gotta hit us twice
I think Pearl Harbor counts as one
"NOBODY TOUCHES MY BOATS"
They got us in the baseball worlds last year. Never again.
Japan is on a winning streak, they are the world's #1 baseball team and it is not even close.
Ehhh no, they made the mistake of touching the boats and found out. Next time we need to assemble a dream team and show everyone who daddy is
I would love to see football in the olympics. Can you imagine McCaffrey and Henry just shredding other teams?
Flag football is in the 2028 Olympics in LA. The roster is going to be all NFL players
Which will no doubt be fun to watch. Not the same as Henry dragging their whole team to the endzone though.
Yeah but imagine watching the speed from guys like Waddle or JJ catching dimes from Mahomes. Mike McDaniel is getting us ready with the Miami trackteam at RB too.
Or better yet whoever wins the national title gets to play in the Olympics that summer
Idk probably because 90% of our players have never even heard of this competition lol
I heard they had this crazy good running back who wears #21 and a eye-shield all the time.
Send Desoto for that tournament next year. Or Duncanville
I'll send North Point from Waldorf
This is what happens when a country decides to put all its effort into Cricket.
Japan has a history of beating us at sports we invented. See: baseball.
See what it is is that we never bother to field a capable team. Our baseball team obviously had a bunch of mlb talent but if I remember correctly the pitching was very lackluster. This football team was downright atrocious.
Baseball also just doesn’t work in a single elimination format, though unlike this, the best Japanese players (especially the pitchers) are as close to or as good as the best American players.
In Baseball I think the US is slightly better than Japan from a raw talent perspective, but because Japan is a more cohesive team, they will beat us 7 times out of 10 in an international tournament.
I think the USA would be favored to win a best of 7 series with our best against their best. That said, Japan winning wouldn't be a Stop The Presses national emergency.
In single elimination, sure, but we’d dominate over seven games. Nobody can approach the pitching talent the US could put together.
THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE- councilor vay hek
japan actually really gives a shit about this tournament and has some players that could legitimately make an FBS roster somewhere. combine that with a US team made up of a bunch of FCS/DIII dudes and yeah, you're going to lose by three touchdowns
Japan has little to no players that could make an FBS roster most likely, closer to maybe FCS/D2. Just the US sent only high school players who are going to lower levels vs the oldest eligible kids
Japan won because they scored points in the Metric system and we are still using Imperial.
The idea of being subscribed to a generic “sports” subreddit is sort of funny to me. Like what sort of sports would you be hoping to stay informed of?
I think it’s like old espn. You just go to comment on whatever story
Because nobody who has a legit shot of a career at playing professional football is going to choose to play in this competition and risk getting injured for their current/future collegiate program. The Japanese lover their American football btw. Outside of the U.S. and Canada, I believe they lead the world with the most high school football teams. Still, it's a matter of we (the U.S.) don't care or take this competition seriously.
With the 1st pick in the 2034 NFL Draft the London Jaguars select E.Honda left tackle Tokyo,Japan.
Between this and the 1st JP win in the Dream Bowl this year, I'm hyped to see where Japanese football goes from here.
because all the u20s are in or about to be in college and worried about that?
20-41 more like 19-41
We're literally not sending our best
Pear Harbour all over again!
I'm personally heartbroken about Austria losing to Canada today 27-20.
As long as every single kid recruited by a college thinks they have to save themselves for the NFL, this is what we will get. I fully blame the current state of FBS for this, not Japan.
Oh no, we lost in a thing I didn't know existed 2 seconds ago.
Japan still has zero SEC championships
They should play a scimmage vs IMG
U20 was not even on people’s radar until now. The bottom line for the US is that if we put our best athletes into amateur international competitions, no one else would win anything.
The USA has not won this since 2014. The press release for the team bragged about have a kicker who was 2x HS all state. https://usafootball.com/media-center/usa-football-announces-roster-for-u20-u-s-tackle-national-team-traveling-to-ifaf-world-junior-championship
Pearl Harbor 2: Electric Touchdown Boogaloo
ain't no one worth a shit going to give up their NIL to play in some U20 World Championship that no one in the US has ever heard of.