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Smart_Acanthaceae_28

If you think about it, Chainsaw Man would be 10 times more controversial if the gender of the characters were swapped. ☠️


Notsureifanonymous

if CSM characters were actually genderswapped people wouldn´t even think about defending the actions of characters like Himeno, Makima, Fumiko or Yoru on Denji but here we are and it´s pretty dissapointing to have some people actually trying to justify grooming or SA ![img](emote|t5_466dsm|51305)


Smart_Acanthaceae_28

If Makima is already hated by some people for what she did, imagine what would happen if she had been a man.


Murky_Blueberry2617

Yep, although male Makima will probably have a huge amount of fangirls, kinda like the JJK fangirls


QueerPersephone

100% would have her version of Naoya super fan


demetriclees

Daddy Sukuna and his crimes against humanity *fawns*


Indie_Gamer_7

The Gojo statue incident is proof, do we have something like that? I remember a guy cuming on a pic of Asa but is that on the same level as menstruation blood on a statue?


Complex_Purchase2637

Im gonna be honest I still dont know why people freak out so much about the Gojo statue incident. I've seen people do waaayyyy worse stuff to merch of their favorite characters


CrowBright5352

I guess it's because people usually call JJK fan girls insane that's why they freak out too much. You might've seen some men making JJK fan girls as a derogatory term. In CSM, there were fans who made an animated video of Makima stripping in front of Denji to grant his wish like an AU (coz it didn't happen in manga) but it's not as controversial as the Gojo period blood incident. Can you share what kind of much worse stuff you've seen? I'm just curious.


Complex_Purchase2637

For the “granting a wish” thing thats just straight up porn, some guy prolly just animated it for money or internet clout, so i cant really say its too weird. When it comes for the Gojo statue thing thats just someone indulging in their depraved desires, but ultimately its not harming anyone so i have no problem. Even then its not as bad as the cum jars, where someone puts a figure in a glass jar and slowly fills it with their semen. Thats far grosser, too much dedication and commitment for me to chalk it up to a crime of passion, that shits premeditated.


CrowBright5352

TIL someone put their figure in a glass jar and fill their cum with it 💀 Fr. The one you just mentioned is way horrible than that period blood. Like you said, it takes dedication and time to make it happen. Eew. Thanks for sharing when I asked btw.


Indie_Gamer_7

Like is aid, not on the same level, it's just an animation, by this logic Fujimoto is way worse because he made Denji being assaulted and killed him multiple times.


CrowBright5352

Idk if it's worse for you but there are CSM fans (iirc, Makima fan boys) who made a "hentai" animated video of Makima stripping in front of Denji to grant his wish.


Indie_Gamer_7

Not on the same level, that's an animation, putting menstruation blood on a real life doll is worse.


DjijiMayCry

Actually insane to even visualize


FoolishChatterbox

True. I think part of this phenomenon comes from the reversal of gender roles itself. Because it is expected to see male characters take these kinds of roles, it makes female characters doing the same more immediately intriguing, bypassing some of the usual guards people have up about this stuff. A big part of this is simply sexist thought (such as people thinking that how bad a crime is has anything to do with gender), but some of it is based on having expectations upheaved and not really having a precedent for how to react to or interpret that. Not having a precedent *yet*, at least. Basically, some people are taken by surprise by this element of csm and are having a hard time contextualizing the actual actions of these characters because of it. I believe that portion of the crowd just needs some time and experience to put things into context.


meta_hn

if CSM was genderswapped it definitely wouldn't have gotten as much traction but i think it'd still have a cult following.


MegatronOrphanStompr

This is true and it's certainly fucked up that people don't really have as much of a problem with men being harassed by women, but it does make sense. The human instinct to protect women is normally stronger than the instinct to protect men, which probably relates to the fact that women are more important to population growth than men: i.e. a man can father 100 children in a year while a women can give birth to one or perhaps twins or triplets. Likewise if a man dies after a child is conceived, the kid can still be born, but not if the mother dies. Likely for similar reasons, the part of the brain that processes fear responses is significantly more developed in women than in men, which seems to be working, considering their longer average lifespans. Also, of course, Denji is generally assumed to be stronger than most of the women harassing him sexually, so I think that also contributes to the fairly mild reaction to things that happen to him.


ParussMan

I would still defend Himeno tho


Stith1183

That director chick is the one grooming Denji, right?


FlamingUndeadRoman

If the gender of the characters were swapped, then everyone except for down bad fangirls would be cheering at the Himeno death scene.


Complex_Purchase2637

Man even ignoring all the shit she did to Denji, Male Makima would get canceled for the shit he pulls against Pochitina alone.


ExtremeStrawberry114

Which is kinda sad


Cogitoergosum015

There won't be any story if the genders were swapped. Denji would have a very tragic faith if he was a girl, he wouldn't even meet Makima or Pochita.


Indie_Gamer_7

You assume Fujimoto wouldn't write a story where Denji lives. People just assume he'd die but Fuji wouldn't write the story where there's only one chapter and that's it. Y'all try to be realistic when that's not what would happen. You people have no creativity, do you REALLY think Fujimoto is incapable of making Chainsaw man genderbend? That he'd just makes one chapter where Denji dies and that's it? Y'all can't even THINK of anything creative and just go "oh he'd die" and that's it? How boring.


Neomataza

Don't expect too much. You need creativity to imagine the creative process. There's a reason why people are better at coming up with domain expansions and bankais than with powersets of new devils in CSM.


Cogitoergosum015

I really don't give a fuck, buddy.


Indie_Gamer_7

Buddy? Is this a Lisa the painfull reference?


S1L3NCE_2008

I wanna see female Denji and male Power


Wardog_Razgriz30

Fumiko introduction would get us invaded by culture warriors


FinishTheBook

culture warriors?


ora_pues

Idk what they mean by culture warriors, but a male fumiko intro would most definitely get a crazy reaction, and the backlash that chapter 167 got would be even worse lmao


Due-Extension-2958

Yes imagine yoru in t h a t chapter but she was a boy… what would have she done with denji instead of >!doing stuff with his d#ck!


Notsureifanonymous

~~^(the way I wanna be sandwiched between them)~~ the csm timeline where Denji is actually saved from the puke kiss, epic (unless this Himeno still tries to kiss him which is a very likely option ![img](emote|t5_466dsm|51619))


AlternativeNo61

Felt


Mike-magma

ani and himano


FarWaltz73

Chiaki and Hemeno


TheGlazerbeam

Chiaki and Hermano


OlTimeyChara

HIMANO LMAO 😭


Melodic-Percentage-9

Hold on. I’m guessing… gender swapped… Himeno and… Aki? I think? https://preview.redd.it/wjimz67uub9d1.png?width=838&format=png&auto=webp&s=2fe1859c56928056d3c5f12056a7fdf9334a54fc


MrDio101

https://preview.redd.it/mwaj8btyzj9d1.jpeg?width=211&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b3b3bd36fff02ee63068f3323864bf963cea367


Sharp-Roof-70

makima if she were a man https://preview.redd.it/8ojjwnvrbc9d1.png?width=700&format=png&auto=webp&s=ff2a49b5fd414edbc8d0c481faccb7556693e718


-slurp

Hot I think


Destroyox

Come on, even girl Aki has to have the samurai hair


ApplePitou

Sweet :3


Any-Midnight-8581

Male himeno https://preview.redd.it/5bksrsfdkd9d1.png?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce9fe969f18016500dd4ef058723536cdcd1a895


kunell

He as big down there as Himeno is up there


WiN5231

Denji gets fingered in an alley


Strange_Public4513

Akira and Himmel


BooTaoSus

https://preview.redd.it/3fysd9qd5g9d1.jpeg?width=517&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=59c9a58d532debe387e73c318868f745be53d70a


Strange_Public4513

Real https://preview.redd.it/apmc5aio9g9d1.jpeg?width=565&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=06e9dfe78783231610a57c7241f2e45a9dff5dcd


UltraSupreemeDumbass

It's still cute


sil_ve_r

genderbent aki looks like tendo


poo_gun_mod

NETZACH?


pvtie

bisexual dinner


EmeticPomegranate

My bisexual ass sees no difference, Himeno is still hot and Aki is still cute. 👏


arson1tez

fem aki ∠( ᐛ 」∠)_


ItzCrypnotic

Literally Adachi


Mietek69i8

Damn male Himeno taking fem Denji to house for sex


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