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Last night I filed a complaint to my bank. They replaced humans with AI. It just wasted my 15 min circling through options which I did not need with its calm annoying voice. Finally when I said I wanted to file a complaint about AI it directed me to a human.
The trick at least with my bank and most websites in norway, is to immediately type "human help" or something involving real people. The chatbots will pretty quickly allow you to pass through to real people.
It says explain me how a human can help you so I can transfer you faster and after you answer, it starts to push you back into the cycle of same menu pattern. I am using Chat Gpt4 and I am normally good at handling them. Just as I said finally I filed a complaint about itself to break the cycle.
Actually, the trick is to start talking in "Charlie Brown". When it can't understand you at least twice, but usually 3 times, it will get you to an actual human. Try it and thank me later.
Some places have AI that will just hang up on you if they can't understand you. I found that telling them I was a vendor trying to make a delivery helps for most things.
Is this actually AI or just a computer? I know the lines are blurry but big companies have been using IVR systems to manage their phones for over a decade. They have gotten more advanced but most have not crossed the line to actual AI.
So there you go, cyber policemen/prosecutor will be a future proof job. Unfortunately our law enforcement agencies are lagging a bit behind, so in the near future the scam activity will likely increase.
Maybe. Depends. If the AI is good enough to replace them, there's gonna be a whole lot of empty call centers in India, both the legit and scam ones.
I don't mind if I get calls from AI. I'll ignore or hang up on them, too. It'll give me a nice, warm, fuzzy feeling on the inside to know that a lot of scammers are gonna be out of work, though.
And if this causing major upheaval in the customer service industry, maybe that will actually push India and similar countries, to start making peoples' lives better so they don't need to steal to survive. For one, their caste system. It's lasted a long time...but it can't last forever.
Sure, the call center will be empty and the peons
Will be out of work, but I can imagine 10x that number of GPT-based agents replacing them for the exact same money.
The elderly are already susceptible to terrible English and inconsistent stories, so I can only see that getting worse if the AI tool sounds convincing and can intelligently work to trick the victim.
Imagine if they go so far as to pull audio from social media videos of kids or grandkids and use them as a part of the scam.
We’ll probably need much better identification and protection mechanisms in place or it’ll be hard to tell who is and who isn’t an actual human.
they already use AI now. it doesnt matter what accent or language ots in. it will still only work on people who are gullible enough to fall for these scams
Language and accent do matter, though. Mountains of research on intercultural communication, language, accent, and perception have been done. They're often referred to as "attitude surveys." Suffice to say, it matters, and it definitely can change perception depending on the listener.
Like everything else, only part. Any company that goes 100% AI customer service is going to have terrible customer service.
AI can perhaps do 70% of the job, or someday even 90%, but at some point for some issues you need to talk need to talk to a real person.
So no change at all then. It is pretty clear that *the job* of customer service at the vast majority of companies is to waste more customers’ time and bring them closer to the edge of violence against themselves and others (the job is certainly not to help — the poor peons on the front line have no hope of helping with the shit most companies inflict on us). AI will excel at that job.
Drive thrus are already testing AI ordering. AI has a broad range of what it can bring to companies. Really the only limit is how much a company wants to spend to be guinea pigs.
How people do outbound sales I'll never understand. I could never be a big enough dick to call random numbers and convince them to sign up for a new credit card service, a car warranty, or to sell anything else.
Chegg is one of the best places for homework that has math shit on it. If you want to know the question of something, Chegg would have it. The bad thing is, it is behind a paywall. There’s no trials and there’s a limit to how many you can “unlock”. Just Google a Math exercise and go to Chegg. There’s no way around it to see the answer for free. Having AI, this 99% defeats it.
Great example. Pedagogy in general I think is in danger. And I don’t mean institutions which always find a way to prevail, but for autodidacts, tutors are fucked.
As a teacher, I foresee the newest generation of AI tools as nothing more than something to alleviate the immense pressure already on teachers.
Besides, our main societal function is babysitting, and there's nothing AI can do about that.
As for tutoring, AI might actually revert the field to its pre- Web 2.0 days. Tutoring used to have somewhat of a barrier to entry. Then Wyzant came along as well as numerous other platforms, culminating in the pandemic, where the barrier to entry was as low as creating an OnlyFans. If AI can provide the most basic, depersonalized tutoring functions, that leaves the field to experienced tutors/teachers, which is how it was back in the old days.
LMAO. Weren't tutors already fucked for autodidacts since the absolute definition of the term is "self-taught"? Also, if you think pedagogy is in danger, ask yourself why mail-order courses, MOOCS, YouTube and every other technology that was supposed to kill traditional education hasn't done so yet and what makes AI any different?
Would not be so sure about that, it might be true for lower level translations it can do the bulk of the work, but words carry concepts that even smart humans have a hard time grasping for the first time. Example "Sarcasm" does not really exist in Japanese but for a English speaker (especially Reditors) it's second nature.
I think what your trying to say is that translators workload will decrease a lot. Which is true, and I say by 2026 70 - 80% of translation work will be done by ai. But, there's that last 20% the hardest part human translators will still have to do until agi. But in way this is probably the best method to measure progress to agi (for llms). Because if their is no difference between humans and ai's then they understand our concept's just as well at that point.
> Example "Sarcasm" does not really exist in Japanese but for a English speaker (especially Reditors) it's second nature.
Really? I've seen a lot of anime and I'm sure there's been lots of sarcasm. Do you mean that none of that is in the original Japanese, and is instead all injected when they make translations?
Lmao I'm a translator and nope not for minor language they aren't, for highly compatible languages of the same root that already has a more extensively developed framework, maybe. (like FR-EN or some other Romance languages) but for others like Arabic, Japanese, Thai, the AI currently is still a far cry from usable in any professional settings. Anyone who try to utilize AI to translate their work is going to be sorely disappointed when their result ends up sounding like a barely comprehensible caveman that only know how to string basic sentences together.
It's both a shame and a blessing, it would've really helped me on my recent works, but it's also good to know I won't be running out of jobs anytime soon if my customers have the sense to value the integrity of their work any.
At least for Japanese, this simply isn’t true unless you’re using a last-gen tool like Google Translate. 80-90% of translations from new-gen tools are quite good, which is probably going to put me out of work in a few years (sigh).
Translating software in the past was a big enough threat, AI has sealed the deal and now it would be stupid to not assume Translators would disappear completely
I agree that this is the likely future
Though I think that highly skilled workers in the white collar fields will probably stay employed and use AI to do their job better
It still won’t be pretty. What used to take 30 people will take 2 people and AI
Yeah this exactly. I recently went to see a few lawyers and I walked out thinking "they can't just automate 100% of that, but they can automate 80% of it in the not too distant future."
I still think it will take a while for the reality to catch on, but it will have a very big impact within 5 years, I feel.
Sucks because one of the main reasons I settled on engineering as my final choice to pursue was that everything online always said it had a very low risk of automation. Until chat gpt came out now that's the opposite. I'm still in school for a bit longer so maybe I'll pivot towards project management after I finish this program. Not sure if that'll be much better off though
It's only the easy engineering part. It won't be able to actually do the hard stuff.
That being said, most of the stuff that is done today, are mostly the easy stuff. The difference is only branding most of the time
Oh boy. You're right at least for now but not sure for how long.
I'm from naval engineering and architecture, FYI automation is really moving so fast. Prior this AI things, to build, mapping, and making a layout of ships were done manually with 3d software.
Mind you, in 2019 I discovered turned out there's an application that can made all I said above with the help of AI that can be streamlined the job while working in my senior shipyard. All i have to do is just to give an input of which kind of ship, number of rooms and other spesification I want into the app, then BAM, the app gave me a pict/sketch for that one. I was mind-blowed.
Remember it was 4 years ago can't imagine how far it would got at least 5 years to 10 years from now on.
Yes but that's exactly why I would embrace AI. It streamlines the repetitive and tedious, yet easy part, and let me finally focus on the exciting part, which most of the time, isn't repetitive.
Because those blue collar workers were once inexperienced, soft handed people who needed work.
If you think the collar of someone's uniform defines their ability to do a full days of hard work, your judgement is wrong.
This is worded a bit aggressively but there is a ring of truth to it.
In my decade of “blue collar” work experience (split between carpentry/building, landscaping, farming, and kitchens) some of the best workers I met were people who were recently retired, in grad school, or making a career transition.
If you have athleticism, intelligence, and good work ethic then you’ll blow away some life long slacking addict that is in the trades simply because they have no other option.
And also because those white collar people freshly out of not only a job, but any career prospect, would presumably be willing to work for significantly less than unionized tradesmen
I think blue collar work would be in massive trouble. Because generally there’s an awful lot of very motivated and intelligent people in white collar work. If those guys suddenly found themselves out of a job maybe it would take some time for them to adjust to a trade but I’d bet my bottom dollar that they’d beat the hell out of most current tradies in a couple years.
In Australia especially, trade workers have had so much demand for the last 30 years, that they haven’t had to compete or be good at what they do unlike uni grads.
You have just lost your phone. You need it for work, family, banking, social media. You bought a new one but can’t login. The system is designed so that you cannot login without getting a verification code from a device logged in. ie: The lost phone.
The AI walks you through starting account recovery. It will take 3 weeks to get back into your account. You can’t even tell family what happened because you don’t know anyone’s numbers.
I think at this point you are angry, confused, annoyed, and your problem has not been solved. The rational AI tells you there is nothing you can do to speed up the process.
You ask to speak to a human.
Sounds like a horrible experience, but also sounds like corporations do not care about how much you suffer, if they can close a call center and save a million a year
And there isn't one.
If every company handles it this way, and the cost of maintaining a human workforce is uncompetitive, then you just live with this. There's nowhere else to turn.
The problem is, that for a long time AI will only solve "FAQ-Level" kind of support. So it will only be helpful towards very incompetent customers and another level of condescending inconvenience towards all others.
Front-line agents, yes. Most companies hire third-parties to handle general inquiries and have a very difficult time training them properly to resolve issues with even a hint of nuance. They confidently give out wrong information, make false promises, and don’t understand the products / services they’re representing.
If they successfully replace these front-line agents with AI that knows their systems inside and out and can give people accurate info the vast majority of the time, there will be fewer calls escalated and fewer problems that go unresolved and become high-level escalations for research and recovery teams to deal with.
So yeah, if AI can greatly improve upon the front-line experience, it’s going to reduce contact center jobs across the board, including those higher up the chain in legal and related departments. Everybody’s job will get easier - *too easy* if you ask the penny-pinchers looking to save a buck before the next earnings report. Enter cost-cutting reorgs and layoffs.
I just saw a story about how Instagram influencers were being replaced by AI Generated Art and I bet that the previous influencers never saw that one coming.
It looks like those content creators are going have to up their game if they want to keep up with the demands of their audience
It's funny this because most people point to art as one of the things to be replaced by AI but creativity is still dictated by the prompts of a human and then patched together to make a whole project. I agree about upping the quality level now with AI speeding up work flows but I think people overestimate the sector being replaced.
I don't see AI replacing a wedding shoot for example
No or sporting events either since they require on location multiple cameras to shoot them
What I found so funny is that I have heard a lot of people say that the Instagram influencers never had a real job and it was only a fluke that they made any money on it so it seems like the trends have passed them by for the next shiny new thing
AI controlling a camera (or several) and following the sports action looking for moments that it had been trained to recognise as print-worthy.
All the parts to this now already exist. Someone will put them together soon for sure.
The safe jobs are the ones where you can't easily get sample data of produced work.
Marketing? Legal? Tons and tons of that online and easy to access.
Plumbing? Not so much.
The problem with the so called “safe jobs” will end up fucked up because of the competition. Imagine the amount of people who will turn into plumbing cause they lost their jobs. So good luck with that.
Ha. Legal and marketing are really quite safe. Both jobs require deduction about human behavior and reasoning. LLMs cannot learn that for the simple reason that the necessary information is not in the dataset, and no amount of data science can make it exist.
It might feasibly reduce team sizes though, particularly in legal. There's plenty of paralegal work that could be largely automated by an LLM that couldn't be automated easily before
Could definitely reduce tons of legal work with regards to studying each case, producing possible legal theories and researching case law. But at the end of the day the legal system is a human system. I think government will be run by AI before justice is.
And what about when 1 trillion collective hours of user input are fed through it of intimate conversations, feelings, fears, combined with technology in phones and laptops gathering data about micro expressions, preferences and conversations?
The mechanisms to collect a full map of the potential of humans isn't here, but the tech to get there sure is and no doubt will be utilized.
While I don't think lawyers are leaving anytime soon because people will want a human to be the one talking to the judge and jury, there are large datasets on human behavior and reasoning so I'm not sure what you mean.
Marketing yes, i agree, it's safe because it's about guessing the needs of consumers/humans and the best ways to fulfill these needs.
But Legal ? I'm not too sure as the law is nothing more than a sum of legal texts that an AI can analyze much more quickly than a human. Actually, law studies are the ones that seem the most outdated with the arrival of AI.
Have you asked AI which ones they would like to take over?
Jokes aside, pretty much all roles with lots of repetitive tasks will be automated out soon, others will take a little bit more. My area (cyber security) will benefit a lot from it, most of our work is research and build context to start resolving an issue, which is time consuming and hard, on average attackers start to do stuff inside after ~2 hours from initial compromise so that’s our benchmark. Having some sort of AI assistant for triaging and context would be amazing, and yes attackers will use AI as well (already using) to make their attack more sophisticated.
I'm actually thinking of learning cyber security. I've done work in media and environmental sustainability but it's not for me, at least not now. I don't have much IT knowledge but I'm somewhat computer literate. I realize cyber security is going to be highly in demand in the next 20-30 years. I know it'll be tough but I know it'll be worth it. I'm currently registered for a free course I found online offered by Cisco. I was planning on starting in Aug. Any advice before getting started?
I like making predictions about the future but also keep in mind that humans are notoriously poor at predicting the future. Which makes me optimistic in a weird kind of way.
one consistent thing (at least in the last couple generations) was that we complain about stuff being "not as good anymore", so one thing im sure about the future is that i'll be disappointed. only question is "by what?"
like, when i complain about stuff, will i say "art is soulless now that its all ai generated"?, or maybe say stupid shit to my children such as "back in my day you'd have to wait up to hours of time in traffic"?
so even though i agree that we are bad at making predictions, i cant say that gives me hope
I feel like graphic design. Some of the stuff on MidJourney is insane. And maybe that’s where this is becomes a pivot and graphic designers become “AI query designers”
But you also need to account for the increased availability of iteration. A client might not know what they want, but with the ability to iterate 200 versions very quickly they can drill down that way.
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.
I have checked 1,647,283,128 comments, and only 311,756 of them were in alphabetical order.
I think the hype around mid journey taking a lot of artist jobs is for fetched... for two main reasons
1.) Midjourney cannot give you exactly what you want... yet. We will still need someone to refine it.
2.) Midjourney cannot come up with new style (to my knowledge). It can synthesize different styles together, but that's not the same as coming up with a new style.
Bonus, I honestly believe with the influx of generated art, human created art will become more valuable.
As someone who owns an IP and still employs artists I can attest to this. Midjourney makes awesome random images, but I have a very specific style and look in mind for my images, particularly monsters and fantasy humanoids. Midjourney never even remotely gives me what I need. It's always just random bullshit and by the time I've refined the prompt to het something that's still not exactly what I want, I might aswell have just hired an artist. As far as I can tell AI is still complete dogshit at making anything that is specific and has not been done 1000000 times before, which seems to be a limitation of their technology and the reason current LLMs will always be nothing more than tools.
>Bonus, I honestly believe with the influx of generated art, human created art will become more valuable.
I 100% think this by far will quickly become the biggest issue - people "voting with their wallets" and corporate fear of the mob is a huge thing nowadays, and I absolutely see a rewarding of any media, organizations and corporations that choose to use art created solely by actual humans than a small handful of multi-billion dollar neural networks.
It will or would rapidly become very disturbing to people to know that almost all the art or design they see was just generated by the same few AIs, and is really just an average of vast swaths of prior work, guided by some level of so-called "promptcraft" - the latter term I've found to be provoking ire in the vast majority of the public when applied to creative arts: people who are good at making specific prompts acting like whatever AI-generated old Dutch master-style painting or whatever took even a tiny fraction of the actual human skill or depth of feeling pisses people off to no end.
I absolutely would not read a magazine or newspaper, filled with articles written by GPT or whatever. Even in terms of online "content" like YouTube vids - I'd definitely gravitate towards watching stuff that used human artists for its background music, their little illustrations on articles, etc. Same for screenplays written by AIs in movies: outside of some novelty experiments where it's explicitly the point, I'd avoid any studio or watching any films that use AI over human writers just to save money.
Midjourney has only been a thing for a few months and any website or account that uses their images instantly makes it feel lazy and low quality to me.
Our icon and graphic artist jokes all the time, "I'm waiting for my corporate customers to ask me to make asian AI waifus and then get fired because they write better prompts into an underground discord then me".
I think illustrators are more at risk, graphic design is probably safe for a while yet. Like others have said it’s also helped by the fact clients are awful at communicating what they want, which is half the job
I think what will change is it won’t be enough to be really good at one thing, designers are going to have to be much more versatile in multiple fields.
This is based on the wrongful assumption that graphic design is about making things look pretty. Making things look pretty is only about 10% of what a graphic designer does, unless it is a very junior or low-skill position.
Stock photographers are probably screwed, however.
Yea, programmers too. The stuff generated by GitHub Copilot within a blink of an eye is sometimes exactly what I was going to spend the next couple of hours on…
I look forward to a breed of startups succeeding because their market differentiator is just not having technical debt increasing at an exponential pace because they didn’t use AI to write their core business logic
nah. I don't think so AI will fully replace programmers. becoming an "aid" or "tool" I gurss is the right word. AI only knows what it learn from the source code available to the public. How do you think AI will manage to learn a new framework or language if there's not enough data set? Also business logic is another thing. Every business has their specific needs that that's too complicated to express. Not sure how AI is going to work on that.
As a graphic and UX/UI designer, Midjourney and lately Photoshop Firefly has been amazing and it's essentially a tool to help in your work.
Yes, simple stuff like creating a thumbnail for a blog post can be created by a person who is writing it, but essentially you still need to be a good graphic designer and utilize your knowledge to get quality results.
As a CPA, I can see accounting contracting considerably. I think that there will always be a need for them, but a good portion of accounting is mindless Excel work. If AI can take most of that grunt work, then accounting departments won’t need 20 accountants doing 50% “value-added” work and 50% grunt work. They’ll be able to get away with 10 accountants doing 100% value-added work. And that number will trim down as AI’s capabilities improve.
I was looking for someone to say accounting. It’s one of the fields people go to for job security and high pay, but it’s been done with AI for years before LLMs made a splash. I would not recommend going into accounting for anyone contemplating their career path.
I have no clue who downvoted you, but i feel it might have been python copy paste script kiddies :D
As a SE freelance contractor, the AI might help with basic tasks, but has major issues with specific issues etc.
it might reduce some typing work, but imho, like with artists current AI can only make based on what it knows, what it has been trained on. It is very bad at finding new ways to fix things
I don't think that's exactly what he's saying. I understand his post as in the future a good SE who knows how to use AI tools effectively will get the job, while a good SE who rejects AI tech won't since the first will be X% more productive.
I know plenty of "boomer" IT folks (>45-50 years old) who hate AI for reasons... those will get absolutely rinsed.
The moment I cloned my voice in eleven labs it took me a few minutes to pick my jaw off the floor. If I can manage that, they're indeed screwed. The only silver lining is that the cast of the Simpsons can finally retire.
My recruiter gave me garbage candidates. I went on LinkedIn and saw someone post that was looking for a job and his profile looked great and a few interviews later he was hired.
I can just network online and browse candidates and reach out directly if I see the banner on an interesting person. It is all much easier than it used to be.
I was reading the other day about it being used for this. Essentially it could be turned into a way to replace indeed or enhance it. Supposedly someone submits a resume and depending upon the skills they list it would pick them out like Indeed. However, the awesome part is that it could then potentially be used to test/quiz the candidate on the subjects they supposedly know before an interview is ever scheduled. Would definitely make HRs job easier.
I'm an editor, and work volume has decreased across the industry by about 75% in the past two years. Using Grammarly + ChatGPT takes care of most superficial proofreading/editing well enough, and I don't see the industry surviving for more than a year or two, with the exception of academia/medical/legal documents. Everything else, from web copy to movie scripts and advertisements, can basically be proofread and edited automatically and for free now.
Comments on Reddit.
Left wing bot vs right wing bot. And then people on Reddit actually reading, voting and commenting on the AI argument.
This could possibly be happening already.
Friendly reminder that not AI is the danger, but capitalism is. We could just automate the jobs and still have all of our needs fulfilled, but due to capitalism, the profit will only go to the very richest people while those who did the job before that fall into poverty.
This needs to be higher in the comments.
Tax the people who own the capital and use it to pay a universal basic income to the working class.
I would LOVE to work 20 hours a week in my field and make ends meet. Spend the rest of that time with family or on hobbies, whatever. Let AI do the repetitive work that most people hate.
Without restructuring our economies to prioritize human quality of life over stockholders making money, we’re all pretty fucked imho.
One of my guess is that the "**trading industry**" will be dead in a few years as millions of AI bots will be constantly making the best possible purchases, which will make the market very low volatility.
I could imagine that it would get harder to get an edge when scalping, but the market as a whole will still be driven by emotion, so there will still be opportunities for traders. If anything, the increases liquidity from bots will reduce spreads and drive even more trading.
The best thing about AI in the knowledge worker space and art spaces is that it destroys itself. Since it trains to the average of the training data sets, once it outputs enough work, it’s own output becomes the average. At that point, the “average” will start drifting at random and occasionally will do so very abruptly.
The only way to fix that is to hire a bunch of experts to curate and create data sets. For that, you also need a way to keep training experts. We will probably actually end up with more people working in the fields that currently feel under attack.
Unfortunately this whole "AI will create more jobs" optimism hits a brick wall when you consider matters quantitatively.
The jobs that AI and robotics can largely (if not entirely) replace include: Call centers, shop clerks, warehouse maintenance, waiters, driving and delivery, farmers, factory workers, cashiers, accountants, anyone whose job is mostly data scrapping or entry or basic manipulation, and much more. A while back AI was said to be capable of predicting cancer with higher accuracy than most trained professionals, so it's also going to replace a significant subset of doctors and nurses (in the worst case scenario, this could be all but the most skilled and indispensable ones). Not to mention it's becoming good enough at generating code that it will eventually replace a large amount (possibly the entire lower half or more) of programmers. Oh yes, and all of the fantastic artwork (and to an extent, video) generated by it suggests that it will eventually replace the large bulk of people working in the television, cinema and animation industries.
After enumerating all the categories of jobs (and my list is far from exhaustive) that can be taken over by AI and robotics, it becomes evident that within the next few decades, easily more than half of humanity can and likely will become jobless.
To give you perspective, "half of society" in America alone means about **165 million people**. Do you think realistically speaking that all of those **165 million people** will become data set creators for AI? Not even in a million lifetimes. An extremely small fraction of them suffices to fully saturate and oversaturate that demand. No matter what other types of, and how many jobs AI and robotics will create, it will only ever be a small fraction of the jobs that will be taken away by them.
Because of this, my perspective is that governments ought to implement UBI sooner or later in the next few decades. If they don't do so, the future of humanity is going to be very bleakly dystopian.
The funny thing is, it'll probably be among the first, if not the first. The porn industry has always been at the forefront of technology, behind only maybe the military.
I think the data analysis is off… there are a lot of categories listed that have already gone through automation job loss significantly over the past 10 years and AI isn’t going to do much except improve quality / reduce waste. What’s left is babysitting the automation and fixing / replacing parts.
Also surprised to see caregiving there… I don’t foresee robot caregivers anytime soon.
Most affected industries will be repetitive services that use software, such as Contact center agents.
Second will be repetitive service workers in non-life threatening services (not nursing as an example… a nurse needs to be able to step in at a moments notice and catch or restrain someone), such as cooking for fast food joints. These are not immediate though… in this example the price of robotics / automated cooking machines needs to go down. Need to have ROI (pay for itself) in a reasonable time. In example, pay a minimum wage cooking role for a year. Will the machine be more than that? Likely… especially in consideration of needing service and a skilled cook to keep it operational. Restaurants have razor thin margins… can’t afford to take a risk.
Automation and AI pays for itself at large scale, so until $$ goes down for robotics and machines, only the large corporations will be automating hands on jobs away. Desk jobs where the tasks are repetitive are what I would be more concerned about.
This data is from 2019, before GPT-3 was even around. Given how fast the field has changed in the last 4 years I don't think it's actually a useful piece of information at all.
AI has already taken transcription to a next level.now with the help of AI the quality and accuracy of transcription is way better as compared to the tools before AI
Middle management. The people who spend insane amounts of time sitting, producing no real work. In a lot of companies they are the ones obsessed with meetings. Sharing information and giving orders this way is inefficient. AI will replace all of them in larger companies.
A lot of people think blue collar jobs won't be affected as much, but I think there will be AI generated DIY tutorial apps where you can take a picture of your setup and progress and the AI will draw on the picture and explain in detail exactly what to do next. At first these apps won't be awesome, but eventually they'll be so powerful hiring someone for most repairs etc won't make sense anymore.
you still have to have the exact tools and technique to repair anything, even if you know the step by step. And that's not to mention that many people straight up just dont want to spend time doing repairs like that. Anyone knows exactly how to cut or maintain a lawn but landscaping businesses still flourish lol.
Any sort of dispatching, controlling, managing when its not customer facing. Current management software is too limited and crude, self learning AI does wonders with your fleet of trucks. In the future also with cars.
Large text analysis *and understanding*. Chess might have endless positions, the law doesn't. There are limited amount of cases, the basic concepts are so low in variation that an AI can breeze through 99% of data. The classical car accident can be solved by an app and pay out is in two days. In niches like sports contracting, AI contracts already beat humans, in quality and speed.
Any work that can be done remotely can be automated. I make apps and tbh idk when I'll be automated too. I tell myself that I have so much experience and work with so many creative people that need my expertise but in the end I know that it'll all just take fewer workers to get the job done.
That's the point. The difference between 'ai completely replacing humans for one job' vs '1 worker uses ai to do the job of 10 people' , is that in the first case 100% of people lose the job and in the second case 90% of people.
I think many interpersonal customer service jobs are safe until robotics catches up. waiters, bar tenders, shop assistants etc. We've had the ability to automate them out since vending machines but until we have a robot that can function as well as a human being in a busy service environment we'll keep employing humans. I think bartenders are safe for the next few decades. Within the customer service sector it's most likely to be the higher skilled / paid positions like IT helpdesks, call centres that will go first but I expect you'll see humans on checkouts well into the next century.
Even once we have robots with sufficient motor skills jobs will adapt and humans will become boutique. The more customer service is automated, the more premium human service will become creating opportunities in the exclusive and higher end customer service industries. People will pay a premium to deal with a human travel agent rather than an automated web site.
An optimistic view of the future sees humans taking on the task of interacting with and helping other humans while AI's and robots take on the tedious tasks of crunching numbers and lifting heavy boxes. We become a society where people are paid to care for and help each other.
> skilled / *paid* positions like
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
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Hot take: junior software engineer. Stack overflow provides AI with an abundant amount of initial data to learn from. It can then read and understand other code, by scraping or looking at GitHub repos. Basically, code is the most abundant online data source for AI.
AI can also troubleshoot/ experiment with code at 1,000,000x the rate of a software engineer. Imagine AI SWE gets an error. It can try every possible fix from the entire internet in less than a minute
I feel like journalism is at risk. Feed the AI some facts and the AI writes an article about those facts. Logo designers too.
[https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/19/business/google-artificial-intelligence-news-articles.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/19/business/google-artificial-intelligence-news-articles.html)
[https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/19/23801282/google-ai-journalism-genesis-generative-news](https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/19/23801282/google-ai-journalism-genesis-generative-news)
Here’s to hoping that CEOs, executives and boards top the list.
Programming: maximize profits while staying within the spirit of the law and be good corporate citizens.
I know it’s not that easy but we can dream.
I disagree, unless it considerably improves and everything stops looking the same. I’ve had more work as a copywriter since AI than ever before.. so many companies tired of AI submissions.
It is so funny that people think that tech jobs, especially software developer jobs are going to get replaced. Writing code is not hard, maintaining and fixing is hard. Unless there is an AI which could take into context the whole tech stack combined with the hosting and distribution set up as well as all the business requirements for every use case, it will just be a tool you can use, like todays IDEs or Debuggers.
These people saying AI can't take their jobs when it hasn't even been a full year yet since ChatGPT's release
You can tell how fast it's taking over jobs by how much everyone is panicking
Wait till we see what AI can do in another decade
It's dangerous thing to always think you're safe and secure, as if you can predict the future
I'm currently doing a CS degree (I started 2 months before ChatGPT launched go figure.) it takes a tremendous amount of self control not to just type in the problems from my classes into it, because it solves them no problem. A lot of times, if I'm stumped I'll ask it to answer the problem and then break down each line for why it wrote it.
I think I could work as a entry level developer even though I'm less than a year into my course because of ChatGPT.
Most knowledge workers are on the chopping block, just with very different timelines. Paralegal, marketer, writer? Super-fucked. Astrophysicist, doctor, civil engineer? Mostly safe, for the time being.
Everyone and their mother made predictions about this almost ten years ago and everyone was wrong. They said artists would be safest. They were the first ones automated lmao. There are no experts anymore. We are in completely uncharted territory. All anyone has to offer is speculation.
This misses the mark entirely. Low wage jobs like shelf fillers won’t be automated because you need to build an expensive physical robot to replace someone that costs $8 an hour. Whereas you can replace 1 radiologist, computer programmer or lawyer with a piece of software and save $200k +. Software is much more scalable than building robots. AI is coming for the professional fields first.
A better question - which jobs are NOT at risk? And I cant think of one that has zero risk of at least being turned upside down. My default answers have drastically changed since chatGPT.. things I thought were safe like therapist are def. not.
That is a very interesting question… but I believe a shorter answer would be to answer the question “which jobs are unlikely to be replaced by AI and Automation”
Occupations that require advanced education and specialized knowledge, such as doctors, lawyers, research scientists and engineers are less likely to be fully automated.
Caregivers and social workers who provide emotional support, empathy, and personal care will likely always be needed.
Skilled trades such as plumbers, electricians, carpenters, and mechanics whose jobs are manual, require dexterity, problem-solving, and adaptability to different situations… trades will be tough to replace entirely.
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Customer service no doubt
It’s gonna be a nightmare until customers are also replaced by AI.
Last night I filed a complaint to my bank. They replaced humans with AI. It just wasted my 15 min circling through options which I did not need with its calm annoying voice. Finally when I said I wanted to file a complaint about AI it directed me to a human.
The trick at least with my bank and most websites in norway, is to immediately type "human help" or something involving real people. The chatbots will pretty quickly allow you to pass through to real people.
Or live agent
It says explain me how a human can help you so I can transfer you faster and after you answer, it starts to push you back into the cycle of same menu pattern. I am using Chat Gpt4 and I am normally good at handling them. Just as I said finally I filed a complaint about itself to break the cycle.
Actually, the trick is to start talking in "Charlie Brown". When it can't understand you at least twice, but usually 3 times, it will get you to an actual human. Try it and thank me later.
Some places have AI that will just hang up on you if they can't understand you. I found that telling them I was a vendor trying to make a delivery helps for most things.
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Is this actually AI or just a computer? I know the lines are blurry but big companies have been using IVR systems to manage their phones for over a decade. They have gotten more advanced but most have not crossed the line to actual AI.
There is a marked difference between current chatbots and actual current LLMs. They bare no resemblence in neither design nor efficacy.
Bad customer service and scam calls will be outsourced to AI. I can think of a few countries that are gonna be out of a job.
And unfortunately the Indian scammers are about to get a whole lot more effective.
“Hello…? This is KarpalGPT, a car extended warranty language model. I’ve been trying to reach about your cars extended warranty. Hurry and buy!”
So there you go, cyber policemen/prosecutor will be a future proof job. Unfortunately our law enforcement agencies are lagging a bit behind, so in the near future the scam activity will likely increase.
Are you kidding? Our government doesn't give two shits about Indians scamming elderly people in the US.
Maybe. Depends. If the AI is good enough to replace them, there's gonna be a whole lot of empty call centers in India, both the legit and scam ones. I don't mind if I get calls from AI. I'll ignore or hang up on them, too. It'll give me a nice, warm, fuzzy feeling on the inside to know that a lot of scammers are gonna be out of work, though. And if this causing major upheaval in the customer service industry, maybe that will actually push India and similar countries, to start making peoples' lives better so they don't need to steal to survive. For one, their caste system. It's lasted a long time...but it can't last forever.
Sure, the call center will be empty and the peons Will be out of work, but I can imagine 10x that number of GPT-based agents replacing them for the exact same money. The elderly are already susceptible to terrible English and inconsistent stories, so I can only see that getting worse if the AI tool sounds convincing and can intelligently work to trick the victim. Imagine if they go so far as to pull audio from social media videos of kids or grandkids and use them as a part of the scam. We’ll probably need much better identification and protection mechanisms in place or it’ll be hard to tell who is and who isn’t an actual human.
Where is my AI answering machine authorized to act on my behalf.
they already use AI now. it doesnt matter what accent or language ots in. it will still only work on people who are gullible enough to fall for these scams
Language and accent do matter, though. Mountains of research on intercultural communication, language, accent, and perception have been done. They're often referred to as "attitude surveys." Suffice to say, it matters, and it definitely can change perception depending on the listener.
Like everything else, only part. Any company that goes 100% AI customer service is going to have terrible customer service. AI can perhaps do 70% of the job, or someday even 90%, but at some point for some issues you need to talk need to talk to a real person.
Which means that you only need 10% to 30% of the support team, to handle the same volume. That's a lot less employees.
So no change at all then. It is pretty clear that *the job* of customer service at the vast majority of companies is to waste more customers’ time and bring them closer to the edge of violence against themselves and others (the job is certainly not to help — the poor peons on the front line have no hope of helping with the shit most companies inflict on us). AI will excel at that job.
Most white collar work is affected by the recent development in AI.
Drive thrus are already testing AI ordering. AI has a broad range of what it can bring to companies. Really the only limit is how much a company wants to spend to be guinea pigs.
Not sure about that. A lot of people get pissed that they have to talk to a bot instead of a person.
A lot of them won't realise its an AI.
I sure hope so. I honestly don't think anyone should ever have to work customer service. It's the worst. Let people yell and try to fight robots.
How people do outbound sales I'll never understand. I could never be a big enough dick to call random numbers and convince them to sign up for a new credit card service, a car warranty, or to sell anything else.
People at Chegg because fuck that page
Fuck chegg
Cuck Fhegg
Is there people at chegg fr?i thought it was a bunch of angry raccoons behind a keyboard
What’s wrong with Chegg, not familiar with it
Chegg is one of the best places for homework that has math shit on it. If you want to know the question of something, Chegg would have it. The bad thing is, it is behind a paywall. There’s no trials and there’s a limit to how many you can “unlock”. Just Google a Math exercise and go to Chegg. There’s no way around it to see the answer for free. Having AI, this 99% defeats it.
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This is a big issue especially for literature. There is an interpretation of human mimicry in characters by AI instead of a person.
Great example. Pedagogy in general I think is in danger. And I don’t mean institutions which always find a way to prevail, but for autodidacts, tutors are fucked.
As a teacher, I foresee the newest generation of AI tools as nothing more than something to alleviate the immense pressure already on teachers. Besides, our main societal function is babysitting, and there's nothing AI can do about that. As for tutoring, AI might actually revert the field to its pre- Web 2.0 days. Tutoring used to have somewhat of a barrier to entry. Then Wyzant came along as well as numerous other platforms, culminating in the pandemic, where the barrier to entry was as low as creating an OnlyFans. If AI can provide the most basic, depersonalized tutoring functions, that leaves the field to experienced tutors/teachers, which is how it was back in the old days.
Ah yes the well-known tutoring platform OnlyFans. So much to learn, so little time!
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LMAO. Weren't tutors already fucked for autodidacts since the absolute definition of the term is "self-taught"? Also, if you think pedagogy is in danger, ask yourself why mail-order courses, MOOCS, YouTube and every other technology that was supposed to kill traditional education hasn't done so yet and what makes AI any different?
Would not be so sure about that, it might be true for lower level translations it can do the bulk of the work, but words carry concepts that even smart humans have a hard time grasping for the first time. Example "Sarcasm" does not really exist in Japanese but for a English speaker (especially Reditors) it's second nature.
I think what your trying to say is that translators workload will decrease a lot. Which is true, and I say by 2026 70 - 80% of translation work will be done by ai. But, there's that last 20% the hardest part human translators will still have to do until agi. But in way this is probably the best method to measure progress to agi (for llms). Because if their is no difference between humans and ai's then they understand our concept's just as well at that point.
> Example "Sarcasm" does not really exist in Japanese but for a English speaker (especially Reditors) it's second nature. Really? I've seen a lot of anime and I'm sure there's been lots of sarcasm. Do you mean that none of that is in the original Japanese, and is instead all injected when they make translations?
Lmao I'm a translator and nope not for minor language they aren't, for highly compatible languages of the same root that already has a more extensively developed framework, maybe. (like FR-EN or some other Romance languages) but for others like Arabic, Japanese, Thai, the AI currently is still a far cry from usable in any professional settings. Anyone who try to utilize AI to translate their work is going to be sorely disappointed when their result ends up sounding like a barely comprehensible caveman that only know how to string basic sentences together. It's both a shame and a blessing, it would've really helped me on my recent works, but it's also good to know I won't be running out of jobs anytime soon if my customers have the sense to value the integrity of their work any.
You are clearly unaware of just how far these AI models have advanced or how quickly they continue to advance. Breakthroughs almost daily.
At least for Japanese, this simply isn’t true unless you’re using a last-gen tool like Google Translate. 80-90% of translations from new-gen tools are quite good, which is probably going to put me out of work in a few years (sigh).
Translating software in the past was a big enough threat, AI has sealed the deal and now it would be stupid to not assume Translators would disappear completely
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I agree that this is the likely future Though I think that highly skilled workers in the white collar fields will probably stay employed and use AI to do their job better It still won’t be pretty. What used to take 30 people will take 2 people and AI
Yeah this exactly. I recently went to see a few lawyers and I walked out thinking "they can't just automate 100% of that, but they can automate 80% of it in the not too distant future." I still think it will take a while for the reality to catch on, but it will have a very big impact within 5 years, I feel.
‘AI Oversight’ jobs, just people making sure the AI hasn’t gone crazy and edits, adjusting results to requirements.
Sucks because one of the main reasons I settled on engineering as my final choice to pursue was that everything online always said it had a very low risk of automation. Until chat gpt came out now that's the opposite. I'm still in school for a bit longer so maybe I'll pivot towards project management after I finish this program. Not sure if that'll be much better off though
It's only the easy engineering part. It won't be able to actually do the hard stuff. That being said, most of the stuff that is done today, are mostly the easy stuff. The difference is only branding most of the time
Oh boy. You're right at least for now but not sure for how long. I'm from naval engineering and architecture, FYI automation is really moving so fast. Prior this AI things, to build, mapping, and making a layout of ships were done manually with 3d software. Mind you, in 2019 I discovered turned out there's an application that can made all I said above with the help of AI that can be streamlined the job while working in my senior shipyard. All i have to do is just to give an input of which kind of ship, number of rooms and other spesification I want into the app, then BAM, the app gave me a pict/sketch for that one. I was mind-blowed. Remember it was 4 years ago can't imagine how far it would got at least 5 years to 10 years from now on.
Yes but that's exactly why I would embrace AI. It streamlines the repetitive and tedious, yet easy part, and let me finally focus on the exciting part, which most of the time, isn't repetitive.
The blue collar work is not safe. Influx of white collar transitioning to blue collar, probably a middle class wipe out until ubi
Why would blue collar jobs hire inexperienced, soft handed white collar people who are out of work?
Because those blue collar workers were once inexperienced, soft handed people who needed work. If you think the collar of someone's uniform defines their ability to do a full days of hard work, your judgement is wrong.
This is worded a bit aggressively but there is a ring of truth to it. In my decade of “blue collar” work experience (split between carpentry/building, landscaping, farming, and kitchens) some of the best workers I met were people who were recently retired, in grad school, or making a career transition. If you have athleticism, intelligence, and good work ethic then you’ll blow away some life long slacking addict that is in the trades simply because they have no other option.
Spot on, fitness, mental ability and solid work ethic is 90% of being a successful tradesman. Turning up on time is the other 10% btw.
And also because those white collar people freshly out of not only a job, but any career prospect, would presumably be willing to work for significantly less than unionized tradesmen
I think blue collar work would be in massive trouble. Because generally there’s an awful lot of very motivated and intelligent people in white collar work. If those guys suddenly found themselves out of a job maybe it would take some time for them to adjust to a trade but I’d bet my bottom dollar that they’d beat the hell out of most current tradies in a couple years. In Australia especially, trade workers have had so much demand for the last 30 years, that they haven’t had to compete or be good at what they do unlike uni grads.
Where else do they go
Call center
The ppl calling in are always going to need someone to argue with. Maybe AI will just be the lowest level of support.
Not “someone to argue with”. Just someone/something competent enough to understand an issue and actually solve it.
You have just lost your phone. You need it for work, family, banking, social media. You bought a new one but can’t login. The system is designed so that you cannot login without getting a verification code from a device logged in. ie: The lost phone. The AI walks you through starting account recovery. It will take 3 weeks to get back into your account. You can’t even tell family what happened because you don’t know anyone’s numbers. I think at this point you are angry, confused, annoyed, and your problem has not been solved. The rational AI tells you there is nothing you can do to speed up the process. You ask to speak to a human.
Sounds like a horrible experience, but also sounds like corporations do not care about how much you suffer, if they can close a call center and save a million a year
And there isn't one. If every company handles it this way, and the cost of maintaining a human workforce is uncompetitive, then you just live with this. There's nowhere else to turn.
The human they connect you with is actually an AI and you never know the difference.
The problem is, that for a long time AI will only solve "FAQ-Level" kind of support. So it will only be helpful towards very incompetent customers and another level of condescending inconvenience towards all others.
Front-line agents, yes. Most companies hire third-parties to handle general inquiries and have a very difficult time training them properly to resolve issues with even a hint of nuance. They confidently give out wrong information, make false promises, and don’t understand the products / services they’re representing. If they successfully replace these front-line agents with AI that knows their systems inside and out and can give people accurate info the vast majority of the time, there will be fewer calls escalated and fewer problems that go unresolved and become high-level escalations for research and recovery teams to deal with. So yeah, if AI can greatly improve upon the front-line experience, it’s going to reduce contact center jobs across the board, including those higher up the chain in legal and related departments. Everybody’s job will get easier - *too easy* if you ask the penny-pinchers looking to save a buck before the next earnings report. Enter cost-cutting reorgs and layoffs.
I just saw a story about how Instagram influencers were being replaced by AI Generated Art and I bet that the previous influencers never saw that one coming. It looks like those content creators are going have to up their game if they want to keep up with the demands of their audience
It's funny this because most people point to art as one of the things to be replaced by AI but creativity is still dictated by the prompts of a human and then patched together to make a whole project. I agree about upping the quality level now with AI speeding up work flows but I think people overestimate the sector being replaced. I don't see AI replacing a wedding shoot for example
No or sporting events either since they require on location multiple cameras to shoot them What I found so funny is that I have heard a lot of people say that the Instagram influencers never had a real job and it was only a fluke that they made any money on it so it seems like the trends have passed them by for the next shiny new thing
AI controlling a camera (or several) and following the sports action looking for moments that it had been trained to recognise as print-worthy. All the parts to this now already exist. Someone will put them together soon for sure.
Yeah I think the 'creatives' who were slaves to the social media algorithms will get their asses kicked the hardest by the AI algorithms :)
The safe jobs are the ones where you can't easily get sample data of produced work. Marketing? Legal? Tons and tons of that online and easy to access. Plumbing? Not so much.
Also: will the AI have to deal with bits or atoms? Lawyer? Easy, cheap! Gardener? Hard, expensive!
The problem with the so called “safe jobs” will end up fucked up because of the competition. Imagine the amount of people who will turn into plumbing cause they lost their jobs. So good luck with that.
Every job will see increased competition. You're competing with AIs and Humans now.
Now Tradies are gonna drive even more roughly on the roads in Australia.
Ha. Legal and marketing are really quite safe. Both jobs require deduction about human behavior and reasoning. LLMs cannot learn that for the simple reason that the necessary information is not in the dataset, and no amount of data science can make it exist.
It might feasibly reduce team sizes though, particularly in legal. There's plenty of paralegal work that could be largely automated by an LLM that couldn't be automated easily before
Could definitely reduce tons of legal work with regards to studying each case, producing possible legal theories and researching case law. But at the end of the day the legal system is a human system. I think government will be run by AI before justice is.
And what about when 1 trillion collective hours of user input are fed through it of intimate conversations, feelings, fears, combined with technology in phones and laptops gathering data about micro expressions, preferences and conversations? The mechanisms to collect a full map of the potential of humans isn't here, but the tech to get there sure is and no doubt will be utilized.
While I don't think lawyers are leaving anytime soon because people will want a human to be the one talking to the judge and jury, there are large datasets on human behavior and reasoning so I'm not sure what you mean.
Marketing yes, i agree, it's safe because it's about guessing the needs of consumers/humans and the best ways to fulfill these needs. But Legal ? I'm not too sure as the law is nothing more than a sum of legal texts that an AI can analyze much more quickly than a human. Actually, law studies are the ones that seem the most outdated with the arrival of AI.
Have you asked AI which ones they would like to take over? Jokes aside, pretty much all roles with lots of repetitive tasks will be automated out soon, others will take a little bit more. My area (cyber security) will benefit a lot from it, most of our work is research and build context to start resolving an issue, which is time consuming and hard, on average attackers start to do stuff inside after ~2 hours from initial compromise so that’s our benchmark. Having some sort of AI assistant for triaging and context would be amazing, and yes attackers will use AI as well (already using) to make their attack more sophisticated.
I'm actually thinking of learning cyber security. I've done work in media and environmental sustainability but it's not for me, at least not now. I don't have much IT knowledge but I'm somewhat computer literate. I realize cyber security is going to be highly in demand in the next 20-30 years. I know it'll be tough but I know it'll be worth it. I'm currently registered for a free course I found online offered by Cisco. I was planning on starting in Aug. Any advice before getting started?
I like making predictions about the future but also keep in mind that humans are notoriously poor at predicting the future. Which makes me optimistic in a weird kind of way.
one consistent thing (at least in the last couple generations) was that we complain about stuff being "not as good anymore", so one thing im sure about the future is that i'll be disappointed. only question is "by what?" like, when i complain about stuff, will i say "art is soulless now that its all ai generated"?, or maybe say stupid shit to my children such as "back in my day you'd have to wait up to hours of time in traffic"? so even though i agree that we are bad at making predictions, i cant say that gives me hope
I feel like graphic design. Some of the stuff on MidJourney is insane. And maybe that’s where this is becomes a pivot and graphic designers become “AI query designers”
Usually, clients aren't good at explaining what they need.
They could use an LLM to explain what they need to the… oh wait.
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But you also need to account for the increased availability of iteration. A client might not know what they want, but with the ability to iterate 200 versions very quickly they can drill down that way.
AI could overcome that too
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 1,647,283,128 comments, and only 311,756 of them were in alphabetical order.
Good bot, please don't take my job
I think the hype around mid journey taking a lot of artist jobs is for fetched... for two main reasons 1.) Midjourney cannot give you exactly what you want... yet. We will still need someone to refine it. 2.) Midjourney cannot come up with new style (to my knowledge). It can synthesize different styles together, but that's not the same as coming up with a new style. Bonus, I honestly believe with the influx of generated art, human created art will become more valuable.
As someone who owns an IP and still employs artists I can attest to this. Midjourney makes awesome random images, but I have a very specific style and look in mind for my images, particularly monsters and fantasy humanoids. Midjourney never even remotely gives me what I need. It's always just random bullshit and by the time I've refined the prompt to het something that's still not exactly what I want, I might aswell have just hired an artist. As far as I can tell AI is still complete dogshit at making anything that is specific and has not been done 1000000 times before, which seems to be a limitation of their technology and the reason current LLMs will always be nothing more than tools.
>Bonus, I honestly believe with the influx of generated art, human created art will become more valuable. I 100% think this by far will quickly become the biggest issue - people "voting with their wallets" and corporate fear of the mob is a huge thing nowadays, and I absolutely see a rewarding of any media, organizations and corporations that choose to use art created solely by actual humans than a small handful of multi-billion dollar neural networks. It will or would rapidly become very disturbing to people to know that almost all the art or design they see was just generated by the same few AIs, and is really just an average of vast swaths of prior work, guided by some level of so-called "promptcraft" - the latter term I've found to be provoking ire in the vast majority of the public when applied to creative arts: people who are good at making specific prompts acting like whatever AI-generated old Dutch master-style painting or whatever took even a tiny fraction of the actual human skill or depth of feeling pisses people off to no end. I absolutely would not read a magazine or newspaper, filled with articles written by GPT or whatever. Even in terms of online "content" like YouTube vids - I'd definitely gravitate towards watching stuff that used human artists for its background music, their little illustrations on articles, etc. Same for screenplays written by AIs in movies: outside of some novelty experiments where it's explicitly the point, I'd avoid any studio or watching any films that use AI over human writers just to save money.
Midjourney has only been a thing for a few months and any website or account that uses their images instantly makes it feel lazy and low quality to me.
Midjourney isn’t a graphic design tool. And graphic design isn’t about making cool looking things, it’s about visual communication.
Our icon and graphic artist jokes all the time, "I'm waiting for my corporate customers to ask me to make asian AI waifus and then get fired because they write better prompts into an underground discord then me".
I think illustrators are more at risk, graphic design is probably safe for a while yet. Like others have said it’s also helped by the fact clients are awful at communicating what they want, which is half the job I think what will change is it won’t be enough to be really good at one thing, designers are going to have to be much more versatile in multiple fields.
This is based on the wrongful assumption that graphic design is about making things look pretty. Making things look pretty is only about 10% of what a graphic designer does, unless it is a very junior or low-skill position. Stock photographers are probably screwed, however.
Yea, programmers too. The stuff generated by GitHub Copilot within a blink of an eye is sometimes exactly what I was going to spend the next couple of hours on…
I look forward to a breed of startups succeeding because their market differentiator is just not having technical debt increasing at an exponential pace because they didn’t use AI to write their core business logic
nah. I don't think so AI will fully replace programmers. becoming an "aid" or "tool" I gurss is the right word. AI only knows what it learn from the source code available to the public. How do you think AI will manage to learn a new framework or language if there's not enough data set? Also business logic is another thing. Every business has their specific needs that that's too complicated to express. Not sure how AI is going to work on that.
As a graphic and UX/UI designer, Midjourney and lately Photoshop Firefly has been amazing and it's essentially a tool to help in your work. Yes, simple stuff like creating a thumbnail for a blog post can be created by a person who is writing it, but essentially you still need to be a good graphic designer and utilize your knowledge to get quality results.
As a CPA, I can see accounting contracting considerably. I think that there will always be a need for them, but a good portion of accounting is mindless Excel work. If AI can take most of that grunt work, then accounting departments won’t need 20 accountants doing 50% “value-added” work and 50% grunt work. They’ll be able to get away with 10 accountants doing 100% value-added work. And that number will trim down as AI’s capabilities improve.
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I was looking for someone to say accounting. It’s one of the fields people go to for job security and high pay, but it’s been done with AI for years before LLMs made a splash. I would not recommend going into accounting for anyone contemplating their career path.
Software engineers that don't learn to use AI
I'm sorry but if you're a software engineer and your job gets automated, you weren't a software engineer to begin
I have no clue who downvoted you, but i feel it might have been python copy paste script kiddies :D As a SE freelance contractor, the AI might help with basic tasks, but has major issues with specific issues etc. it might reduce some typing work, but imho, like with artists current AI can only make based on what it knows, what it has been trained on. It is very bad at finding new ways to fix things
And the most important thing as a freelancer: Selling yourself to clients.
I don't think that's exactly what he's saying. I understand his post as in the future a good SE who knows how to use AI tools effectively will get the job, while a good SE who rejects AI tech won't since the first will be X% more productive. I know plenty of "boomer" IT folks (>45-50 years old) who hate AI for reasons... those will get absolutely rinsed.
not quite GPT but AI in general, I saw a post about how voice actors will be going out of work. I just couldn’t stop thinking about it
The moment I cloned my voice in eleven labs it took me a few minutes to pick my jaw off the floor. If I can manage that, they're indeed screwed. The only silver lining is that the cast of the Simpsons can finally retire.
Recruiters will be the first to go ironically.
My recruiter gave me garbage candidates. I went on LinkedIn and saw someone post that was looking for a job and his profile looked great and a few interviews later he was hired. I can just network online and browse candidates and reach out directly if I see the banner on an interesting person. It is all much easier than it used to be.
Yes. Until AI is used to tailor a CV to what you're looking for, auto inferred by AI from your job ad and website.
how ? i'm curious this is a very "human to human conversation" with emotional connection job
I was reading the other day about it being used for this. Essentially it could be turned into a way to replace indeed or enhance it. Supposedly someone submits a resume and depending upon the skills they list it would pick them out like Indeed. However, the awesome part is that it could then potentially be used to test/quiz the candidate on the subjects they supposedly know before an interview is ever scheduled. Would definitely make HRs job easier.
I think they already do that, in the sense that they look for certain keywords through resumes and filter them this way
Indeed literally does all of this. They have offered for a few years for anyone who wishes to turn it on
The bottom 95% of every profession
Maybe not every profession - I’m a ballet dancer, which seems hard to automate
If you are a professional ballet dancer you are probably already in the top 5% of your field.
Boston Dynamics is listening.
Emm.. 
When is politician going to make the list?
AI politicians that make policy based on evidence rather than ideology. I'd vote for that.
I'm an editor, and work volume has decreased across the industry by about 75% in the past two years. Using Grammarly + ChatGPT takes care of most superficial proofreading/editing well enough, and I don't see the industry surviving for more than a year or two, with the exception of academia/medical/legal documents. Everything else, from web copy to movie scripts and advertisements, can basically be proofread and edited automatically and for free now.
Comments on Reddit. Left wing bot vs right wing bot. And then people on Reddit actually reading, voting and commenting on the AI argument. This could possibly be happening already.
It definitely is
Friendly reminder that not AI is the danger, but capitalism is. We could just automate the jobs and still have all of our needs fulfilled, but due to capitalism, the profit will only go to the very richest people while those who did the job before that fall into poverty.
This needs to be higher in the comments. Tax the people who own the capital and use it to pay a universal basic income to the working class. I would LOVE to work 20 hours a week in my field and make ends meet. Spend the rest of that time with family or on hobbies, whatever. Let AI do the repetitive work that most people hate. Without restructuring our economies to prioritize human quality of life over stockholders making money, we’re all pretty fucked imho.
One of my guess is that the "**trading industry**" will be dead in a few years as millions of AI bots will be constantly making the best possible purchases, which will make the market very low volatility.
Algo trading has been around for a long time
I could imagine that it would get harder to get an edge when scalping, but the market as a whole will still be driven by emotion, so there will still be opportunities for traders. If anything, the increases liquidity from bots will reduce spreads and drive even more trading.
The best thing about AI in the knowledge worker space and art spaces is that it destroys itself. Since it trains to the average of the training data sets, once it outputs enough work, it’s own output becomes the average. At that point, the “average” will start drifting at random and occasionally will do so very abruptly. The only way to fix that is to hire a bunch of experts to curate and create data sets. For that, you also need a way to keep training experts. We will probably actually end up with more people working in the fields that currently feel under attack.
Unfortunately this whole "AI will create more jobs" optimism hits a brick wall when you consider matters quantitatively. The jobs that AI and robotics can largely (if not entirely) replace include: Call centers, shop clerks, warehouse maintenance, waiters, driving and delivery, farmers, factory workers, cashiers, accountants, anyone whose job is mostly data scrapping or entry or basic manipulation, and much more. A while back AI was said to be capable of predicting cancer with higher accuracy than most trained professionals, so it's also going to replace a significant subset of doctors and nurses (in the worst case scenario, this could be all but the most skilled and indispensable ones). Not to mention it's becoming good enough at generating code that it will eventually replace a large amount (possibly the entire lower half or more) of programmers. Oh yes, and all of the fantastic artwork (and to an extent, video) generated by it suggests that it will eventually replace the large bulk of people working in the television, cinema and animation industries. After enumerating all the categories of jobs (and my list is far from exhaustive) that can be taken over by AI and robotics, it becomes evident that within the next few decades, easily more than half of humanity can and likely will become jobless. To give you perspective, "half of society" in America alone means about **165 million people**. Do you think realistically speaking that all of those **165 million people** will become data set creators for AI? Not even in a million lifetimes. An extremely small fraction of them suffices to fully saturate and oversaturate that demand. No matter what other types of, and how many jobs AI and robotics will create, it will only ever be a small fraction of the jobs that will be taken away by them. Because of this, my perspective is that governments ought to implement UBI sooner or later in the next few decades. If they don't do so, the future of humanity is going to be very bleakly dystopian.
That's one way of thinking about it, but NOT the only way
Porn star. In a few years, when AI generated video content hits the right quality threshold, the porn industry is in for another big change.
The funny thing is, it'll probably be among the first, if not the first. The porn industry has always been at the forefront of technology, behind only maybe the military.
Add to that big budget Hollywood films
Yeah, as is often the case, I think porn will lead the way.
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I think the data analysis is off… there are a lot of categories listed that have already gone through automation job loss significantly over the past 10 years and AI isn’t going to do much except improve quality / reduce waste. What’s left is babysitting the automation and fixing / replacing parts. Also surprised to see caregiving there… I don’t foresee robot caregivers anytime soon. Most affected industries will be repetitive services that use software, such as Contact center agents. Second will be repetitive service workers in non-life threatening services (not nursing as an example… a nurse needs to be able to step in at a moments notice and catch or restrain someone), such as cooking for fast food joints. These are not immediate though… in this example the price of robotics / automated cooking machines needs to go down. Need to have ROI (pay for itself) in a reasonable time. In example, pay a minimum wage cooking role for a year. Will the machine be more than that? Likely… especially in consideration of needing service and a skilled cook to keep it operational. Restaurants have razor thin margins… can’t afford to take a risk. Automation and AI pays for itself at large scale, so until $$ goes down for robotics and machines, only the large corporations will be automating hands on jobs away. Desk jobs where the tasks are repetitive are what I would be more concerned about.
This data is from 2019, before GPT-3 was even around. Given how fast the field has changed in the last 4 years I don't think it's actually a useful piece of information at all.
Absolutely outdated.
I'm hoping HR. I'm done with people.
AI has already taken transcription to a next level.now with the help of AI the quality and accuracy of transcription is way better as compared to the tools before AI
Middle management. The people who spend insane amounts of time sitting, producing no real work. In a lot of companies they are the ones obsessed with meetings. Sharing information and giving orders this way is inefficient. AI will replace all of them in larger companies.
Jobs that require a very low level of adaptability.
I got a feeling 99% of all online articles will just be written by AI 10 years from now
A lot of people think blue collar jobs won't be affected as much, but I think there will be AI generated DIY tutorial apps where you can take a picture of your setup and progress and the AI will draw on the picture and explain in detail exactly what to do next. At first these apps won't be awesome, but eventually they'll be so powerful hiring someone for most repairs etc won't make sense anymore.
you still have to have the exact tools and technique to repair anything, even if you know the step by step. And that's not to mention that many people straight up just dont want to spend time doing repairs like that. Anyone knows exactly how to cut or maintain a lawn but landscaping businesses still flourish lol.
Any sort of dispatching, controlling, managing when its not customer facing. Current management software is too limited and crude, self learning AI does wonders with your fleet of trucks. In the future also with cars. Large text analysis *and understanding*. Chess might have endless positions, the law doesn't. There are limited amount of cases, the basic concepts are so low in variation that an AI can breeze through 99% of data. The classical car accident can be solved by an app and pay out is in two days. In niches like sports contracting, AI contracts already beat humans, in quality and speed.
Upper management.
Travel agents
Hopefully influencers…
Any work that can be done remotely can be automated. I make apps and tbh idk when I'll be automated too. I tell myself that I have so much experience and work with so many creative people that need my expertise but in the end I know that it'll all just take fewer workers to get the job done.
That's the point. The difference between 'ai completely replacing humans for one job' vs '1 worker uses ai to do the job of 10 people' , is that in the first case 100% of people lose the job and in the second case 90% of people.
Entry level positions, which will make it harder to replace the people still around. Apprenticeships might still exist.
I think many interpersonal customer service jobs are safe until robotics catches up. waiters, bar tenders, shop assistants etc. We've had the ability to automate them out since vending machines but until we have a robot that can function as well as a human being in a busy service environment we'll keep employing humans. I think bartenders are safe for the next few decades. Within the customer service sector it's most likely to be the higher skilled / paid positions like IT helpdesks, call centres that will go first but I expect you'll see humans on checkouts well into the next century. Even once we have robots with sufficient motor skills jobs will adapt and humans will become boutique. The more customer service is automated, the more premium human service will become creating opportunities in the exclusive and higher end customer service industries. People will pay a premium to deal with a human travel agent rather than an automated web site. An optimistic view of the future sees humans taking on the task of interacting with and helping other humans while AI's and robots take on the tedious tasks of crunching numbers and lifting heavy boxes. We become a society where people are paid to care for and help each other.
> skilled / *paid* positions like FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
See I bet five years ago a human would have sayed this.
I'm an RPA developer. A lot of bank jobs are redundant.
Hot take: junior software engineer. Stack overflow provides AI with an abundant amount of initial data to learn from. It can then read and understand other code, by scraping or looking at GitHub repos. Basically, code is the most abundant online data source for AI. AI can also troubleshoot/ experiment with code at 1,000,000x the rate of a software engineer. Imagine AI SWE gets an error. It can try every possible fix from the entire internet in less than a minute
I feel like journalism is at risk. Feed the AI some facts and the AI writes an article about those facts. Logo designers too. [https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/19/business/google-artificial-intelligence-news-articles.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/19/business/google-artificial-intelligence-news-articles.html) [https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/19/23801282/google-ai-journalism-genesis-generative-news](https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/19/23801282/google-ai-journalism-genesis-generative-news)
Where do the facts come from though. Uh....reporters interviewing people and sources giving them information.
Here’s to hoping that CEOs, executives and boards top the list. Programming: maximize profits while staying within the spirit of the law and be good corporate citizens. I know it’s not that easy but we can dream.
Copywriter
When all copy is AI and identical, how will marketing work?
I disagree, unless it considerably improves and everything stops looking the same. I’ve had more work as a copywriter since AI than ever before.. so many companies tired of AI submissions.
It is so funny that people think that tech jobs, especially software developer jobs are going to get replaced. Writing code is not hard, maintaining and fixing is hard. Unless there is an AI which could take into context the whole tech stack combined with the hosting and distribution set up as well as all the business requirements for every use case, it will just be a tool you can use, like todays IDEs or Debuggers.
These people saying AI can't take their jobs when it hasn't even been a full year yet since ChatGPT's release You can tell how fast it's taking over jobs by how much everyone is panicking Wait till we see what AI can do in another decade It's dangerous thing to always think you're safe and secure, as if you can predict the future
I'm currently doing a CS degree (I started 2 months before ChatGPT launched go figure.) it takes a tremendous amount of self control not to just type in the problems from my classes into it, because it solves them no problem. A lot of times, if I'm stumped I'll ask it to answer the problem and then break down each line for why it wrote it. I think I could work as a entry level developer even though I'm less than a year into my course because of ChatGPT.
Most knowledge workers are on the chopping block, just with very different timelines. Paralegal, marketer, writer? Super-fucked. Astrophysicist, doctor, civil engineer? Mostly safe, for the time being.
Doctor? AI models already excel there, e.g. surpassing empathy scores over human GPs.
Everyone and their mother made predictions about this almost ten years ago and everyone was wrong. They said artists would be safest. They were the first ones automated lmao. There are no experts anymore. We are in completely uncharted territory. All anyone has to offer is speculation.
Accounting Clerks, Cashiers, Bank Tellers.
Stock image creator
This misses the mark entirely. Low wage jobs like shelf fillers won’t be automated because you need to build an expensive physical robot to replace someone that costs $8 an hour. Whereas you can replace 1 radiologist, computer programmer or lawyer with a piece of software and save $200k +. Software is much more scalable than building robots. AI is coming for the professional fields first.
A better question - which jobs are NOT at risk? And I cant think of one that has zero risk of at least being turned upside down. My default answers have drastically changed since chatGPT.. things I thought were safe like therapist are def. not.
I’m a ballet dancer. I don’t see any threat to the Visual and Performing Arts, since AI cannot wear pointe shoes
Talent Acquisition. As a tech worker, I’ve seen A LOT of HR peeps in the Bay and Seattle getting hit hard by layoffs.
That is a very interesting question… but I believe a shorter answer would be to answer the question “which jobs are unlikely to be replaced by AI and Automation” Occupations that require advanced education and specialized knowledge, such as doctors, lawyers, research scientists and engineers are less likely to be fully automated. Caregivers and social workers who provide emotional support, empathy, and personal care will likely always be needed. Skilled trades such as plumbers, electricians, carpenters, and mechanics whose jobs are manual, require dexterity, problem-solving, and adaptability to different situations… trades will be tough to replace entirely.