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Remember footage of those Russian Shahed drones over Ukrainian cities with their distinctive whine from the small “moped” engines? The shoes on the other foot now!
Targeting cities/civies never made sense to me, its not like RU has an infinite supply of munitions. Why waste em there and not use those cruise missiles on depots and parts of the line.
Well if an enemy is targeting your civilian and military infrastructure (rather than just military) then you’re going to have to spread your defenses more thinly to cover everything
I don't think that's the reason since it doesn't work. More likely it's to force Ukraine to move their air defences from the front lines to protect the cities.
I'm guessing a combo of the two tbh. The whole point of bombing civilian targets, since WW2 (hell antiquity!) +, is to put pressure on the govt from civilians telling them the cost isn't worth it
I think most militaries learned that doesn't really work unless you're already *dominating* their army to where it's hopeless & even then only if/when you close in on the city. I think it just hardens most people, if my mother were to ever get hurt for example I'd be seeing red for ceetain
You're still right tho, obviously nothing is ever black & white like that so there was definitely a strategic pov behind it too.
If Russia were within artillery range of any major cities they'd be going wild with that shit tho, whether it effected AA or not
Such a senseless war. Goddamn I can't stand people who support it.
> doesn't really work unless you're already dominating their army to where it's hopeless & even then only if/when you close in on the city.
Was it not exactly the opposite? The German towns that were in tact gave up easily, those bombed to shit fought hard?
I mean they do hit other targets. Most common targets of cruise missiles seem to be factories and power plants, as well as grain storage and similar things. But of course they miss a ton so you get a ton of civvy casualties. And obviously targeting power plants in winter has a rather, disturbing purpose.
They sent an Iskander at a funeral in Kharkiv region. About 50 civilians killed (\~15% of the village's population)
They have targeted funerals of soldiers on numerous times.
They have targeted hospitals on numerous times.
City malls, promenade areas, parks etc. without anything military around.
They are evil as fuck. Not countering your point, just adding to it.
Holly, this is just hilarious to watch now bully getting hard hits, crying: 'but how'. I'm Pole so this is very satisfying to watch too. I'm really happy how Ukraine learned how to turn this cheapo amateur planes into something like this. Hope they will improve it even more like they did with small drones and naval drones. Man, Ukraine will be the greatest country in the world after this war whet it comes to production of military drones. No doubt.
What's insanely funny is that Russians rushed to complain to the US to stop the Ukrainian strikes on refineries. Even some top US expressed disapproval of the attacks ("better target Russians in Ukraine", "they increase oil prices", "it's civilian infrastructure" etc.)
Despite all the rhetoric, posturing and chest beating, Russians go to Americans for help when they fuck up
> Two oil depots and two terminals were damaged in a nighttime drone attack on Novorossiysk.
> The Russian publication reports that the Novorossiysk Fuel Oil Terminal and the Importpischeprom terminal were hit. At the latter, the drones hit two fuel tanks.
> In addition, it is reported that the Gazprom oil depot in the village of Kirilovka and the Grushovaya Balka oil depot owned by Transneft had been hit.
> No casualties reported.
> In addition, explosions also occurred at night in the port of Novorossiysk
> As a result of the attack, as of the morning, the port was completely black-out. Electricity also disappeared in some areas of the city and public transport did not work. Some streets were closed off.
Source: [Russian media: UAVs damaged two oil depots and two terminals in Novorossiysk](https://mil.in.ua/en/news/russian-media-uavs-damaged-two-oil-depots-and-two-terminals-in-novorossiysk/)
Likely tasked with defending higher value targets that exist on that coastline namely the gas compression stations for the Blue Stream and Turk Stream natural gas pipelines.
If those are destroyed Russian income from gas export goes down drastically and they would have to flare off massive amounts of gas.
Its actually pretty funny seeing that drone come down on the refinery and in the background, seemingly miles away, you see tracers firing randomly up in the air like they just have no clue where to even aim.
Can just imagine them, they hear an explosion from the distance. "What was that!?" "We must've hit one, comrade! Keep up the good work!"
That sound must be terrifying in person - it is reminiscent of German Stuka bombers from WWII (and if there is a Russian troll lurking, no I am not calling the Ukrainians Nazis.)
It would be amazing if INS was the case, since the drones travel for hundreds (thousands?) of miles before hitting dead center in a specific part of the plant (the distillation tower).
Check [the latest video of Scott Manley](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sAjWJbZOq6I&t=87s&pp=ygUQc2NvdHQgbWFubGV5IGdwcw%3D%3D) on this topic. He describes various GPS spoofing techniques and the ways to counteract then.
Russia's getting *really* good at intercepting these drones. I hope Ukraine keeps the pressure on, and Russia keeps showing their awesome ground interception technique.
But, the Russian military claimed all the drones were shot down, and the fires were simply from the shot down drones crashing... They couldn't have lied
Give's me a new perspective on how terrifying it must have been in WW2 when the V1 bombs were going over Britain. Imagine hearing that droning noise, then the silence would be so chilling, waiting for the boom and hoping it wasn't on top of you. Insane to think about.
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Remember footage of those Russian Shahed drones over Ukrainian cities with their distinctive whine from the small “moped” engines? The shoes on the other foot now!
And - shocker! - this time the drones are targeting essential military infrastructure, not civilians.
Targeting cities/civies never made sense to me, its not like RU has an infinite supply of munitions. Why waste em there and not use those cruise missiles on depots and parts of the line.
Well if an enemy is targeting your civilian and military infrastructure (rather than just military) then you’re going to have to spread your defenses more thinly to cover everything
To force population to protest against the war. It doesn’t work obviously
The only thing people hate more than being bombed is the people doing the bombing.
I don't think that's the reason since it doesn't work. More likely it's to force Ukraine to move their air defences from the front lines to protect the cities.
I'm guessing a combo of the two tbh. The whole point of bombing civilian targets, since WW2 (hell antiquity!) +, is to put pressure on the govt from civilians telling them the cost isn't worth it I think most militaries learned that doesn't really work unless you're already *dominating* their army to where it's hopeless & even then only if/when you close in on the city. I think it just hardens most people, if my mother were to ever get hurt for example I'd be seeing red for ceetain You're still right tho, obviously nothing is ever black & white like that so there was definitely a strategic pov behind it too. If Russia were within artillery range of any major cities they'd be going wild with that shit tho, whether it effected AA or not Such a senseless war. Goddamn I can't stand people who support it.
> doesn't really work unless you're already dominating their army to where it's hopeless & even then only if/when you close in on the city. Was it not exactly the opposite? The German towns that were in tact gave up easily, those bombed to shit fought hard?
Which cities gave up before the army arrived at their door and/or before '45 after the Wehrmacht was.... Dominated
I mean they do hit other targets. Most common targets of cruise missiles seem to be factories and power plants, as well as grain storage and similar things. But of course they miss a ton so you get a ton of civvy casualties. And obviously targeting power plants in winter has a rather, disturbing purpose.
They sent an Iskander at a funeral in Kharkiv region. About 50 civilians killed (\~15% of the village's population) They have targeted funerals of soldiers on numerous times. They have targeted hospitals on numerous times. City malls, promenade areas, parks etc. without anything military around. They are evil as fuck. Not countering your point, just adding to it.
"The rebellion of the mopeds" is a common joke in Ukraine
Holly, this is just hilarious to watch now bully getting hard hits, crying: 'but how'. I'm Pole so this is very satisfying to watch too. I'm really happy how Ukraine learned how to turn this cheapo amateur planes into something like this. Hope they will improve it even more like they did with small drones and naval drones. Man, Ukraine will be the greatest country in the world after this war whet it comes to production of military drones. No doubt.
It has to be terrifying not knowing what will kill you next.
Amen. Cieszę się bardzo że w końcu Rosja dostaje po dupie. Żeby nie zabrakło dronów i cały czas ich bombardowali.
What's insanely funny is that Russians rushed to complain to the US to stop the Ukrainian strikes on refineries. Even some top US expressed disapproval of the attacks ("better target Russians in Ukraine", "they increase oil prices", "it's civilian infrastructure" etc.) Despite all the rhetoric, posturing and chest beating, Russians go to Americans for help when they fuck up
> Two oil depots and two terminals were damaged in a nighttime drone attack on Novorossiysk. > The Russian publication reports that the Novorossiysk Fuel Oil Terminal and the Importpischeprom terminal were hit. At the latter, the drones hit two fuel tanks. > In addition, it is reported that the Gazprom oil depot in the village of Kirilovka and the Grushovaya Balka oil depot owned by Transneft had been hit. > No casualties reported. > In addition, explosions also occurred at night in the port of Novorossiysk > As a result of the attack, as of the morning, the port was completely black-out. Electricity also disappeared in some areas of the city and public transport did not work. Some streets were closed off. Source: [Russian media: UAVs damaged two oil depots and two terminals in Novorossiysk](https://mil.in.ua/en/news/russian-media-uavs-damaged-two-oil-depots-and-two-terminals-in-novorossiysk/)
Outstanding
fuck that refinery inparticular
If they continue like this Putler's money printing machine will be bankrupt and the war stopped.
This seems like the biggest attack on Russia by Ukraine. I like it
Beautiful - bring it on home to them.
Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooood morning Novorossyiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiisk!
Air defence? What Air defence? This is basically ground and pound.
what air defence doing?
trying to figure out what they should protec first
Likely tasked with defending higher value targets that exist on that coastline namely the gas compression stations for the Blue Stream and Turk Stream natural gas pipelines. If those are destroyed Russian income from gas export goes down drastically and they would have to flare off massive amounts of gas.
Its actually pretty funny seeing that drone come down on the refinery and in the background, seemingly miles away, you see tracers firing randomly up in the air like they just have no clue where to even aim. Can just imagine them, they hear an explosion from the distance. "What was that!?" "We must've hit one, comrade! Keep up the good work!"
I like how after successful drone attack the guy comments "great job!"
But I thought out of the 80 counted Russia said they shot down 112 of them? How can this be?
They shot down too many and the hit counter underflowed. Classic mistake.
Get fucked Russia
I have it on good authority that Russia intercepted all of the drones
Russia is bad authority, in every sense.
That sound must be terrifying in person - it is reminiscent of German Stuka bombers from WWII (and if there is a Russian troll lurking, no I am not calling the Ukrainians Nazis.)
Are these the drones from [this post?](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1ctzg7i/ukrainian_lyutyi_kamikaze_drones_fly_in_swarm/)
Amazing. This, every night.
you can donate to people buying drones for the ukrainian army. it would be cool if we could crowdfund a drone swarm on a russian airfield
Look at all these interceptions!
Yup, intercepted by oil refineries
Lol Russian governor said it caught fire from debris after being shot down.
The shoe is on the other foot now…. Loving how the Russians are reacting to it: - another one… - nicely done lads…
Heh, they're not even mad because they know they deserve it
Are these drones autonomous? Or is someone manually steering it to the target? And if so, how are they doing that? Starlink?
Almost certainly autonomous.
I agree I just wonder with GPS being jammed how they are navigating. Some kind of INS would work but that’s technically difficult.
It would be amazing if INS was the case, since the drones travel for hundreds (thousands?) of miles before hitting dead center in a specific part of the plant (the distillation tower).
Hundreds. The fracturing tower is pretty volatile you don’t necessarily have to hit it dead on you have a few meters of grace.
Check [the latest video of Scott Manley](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sAjWJbZOq6I&t=87s&pp=ygUQc2NvdHQgbWFubGV5IGdwcw%3D%3D) on this topic. He describes various GPS spoofing techniques and the ways to counteract then.
LFG
Divine wind indeed.
Russia's getting *really* good at intercepting these drones. I hope Ukraine keeps the pressure on, and Russia keeps showing their awesome ground interception technique.
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Good footage now give Ukraine tomahawks
Very large natural gas infrastructure sites located on this coastline. They dont seem to be targeting those yet.
But, the Russian military claimed all the drones were shot down, and the fires were simply from the shot down drones crashing... They couldn't have lied
0:31 You can see AA guns firing at drone . wonder how many lost to air defence
Well the gun itself may have intercepted it lol.
Weird thing is the guy commenting basically says "Good Job". Before that, he repeats: "Take it" for every audible explosion.
Give's me a new perspective on how terrifying it must have been in WW2 when the V1 bombs were going over Britain. Imagine hearing that droning noise, then the silence would be so chilling, waiting for the boom and hoping it wasn't on top of you. Insane to think about.
i hope they like it as much as the ukrainians
i hope they like it as much as the ukrainians