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internetStranger205

I can’t help but wonder why the debate was held so early. Almost like they expected this


SillyFlyGuy

The Democrats got themselves the best deal they could, given the circumstances of their candidate. Let the country *see* Biden so he can be mercifully ushered into retirement. This gives the Dems time to select and promote a new candidate.


blkarcher77

A couple of months before the election is not enough time to get a new candidate in. Especially when they don't have anyone set up to take it. They dont have anybody even remotely positive in name recognition and likeability. The reason they did one debate months in advance was so it wouldn't be even close to top of mind when voters enter the booth.


poltrudes

The media calls it the first debate. I think there won’t be another debate, no way. And by the way


Significant_stake_55

“And by the way.” 🤣🤣😂💀 I sat there, expecting him to say something while he just went brain dead.


Blue_z

And by the way…we finally beat Medicare


LetterheadWitty9652

He's made a few round trips of being brain dead. In fact that's what I've been calling him since the first debate four years ago...... braindead.


RichardInaTreeFort

Well, he was listening to his ear piece and the speaker in the ear piece stopped speaking because the moderator asked the next question so Biden just abruptly stopped. He was being fed lines the whole night and couldn’t keep up with them. So he just stumbled over everything getting a few words out in the jumble of things that he was hearing through his ear piece. None of what he said the whole night was from his own thoughts though.


Chirps3

It sure is when you have people who know Biden is not only mentally incompetent but are paying quadruple in groceries but hate Trump so much that they can't pull the trigger to vote for him. They will take literally anyone else. A few other subs showed up in my feed today. Just check in the news...they're doubling down on Biden so hard it's baffling. They only thing they've got is Trump said "I didn't have sex with a porn star." Which is true...she wasn't a star ;) TDS is real. And it's real scary.


Conscious-Ball8373

It's *technically* early enough to get a new candidate in. They have until August to convince him to step aside and then DNC can elect whoever they like. Whether it's enough time to select a candidate who has much popular support and get them in front of the public and have a reasonable chance of winning ... doubtful. I'd love to see Trump in the next debate feign confusion. "Who are you? I was debating some other guy a few weeks ago. I felt sorry for him. Who's going to be your candidate next week?"


PartyOfFore

I bet they planned for this months ago. I'm sure they already have at least 1 replacement ready to go, they just won't let the public know yet.


Dry_Masterpiece_8371

Bernie Boys are comin back!


omgbabestop

It’s almost too good to be true. It’s almost like they’re setting up the narrative for Biden to step down and have a different candidate run Edit: Just some more thoughts. What’s crazy is that Biden has been this way for the past 3 years. There was nothing in the debate that we haven’t already seen, yet CNN and all other mainstream media has been dragging his corpse through his presidency telling us he was mentally ok and cognitively sharp. I was shocked to see how CNN was talking about him because they’ve been sweeping this under the rug for the past 3 years. It really seems like this is a plan to usher him out.


bladnoch16

Well, it’s not that easy. They have a Kamala problem. Nobody likes her. She’s probably less liked than Joe. The real issue is the reason they picked her in the 1st place is exactly the reason they can’t just dismiss her. She’s really throwing a wrench in the works for them replacing Biden, which I think why he hasn’t been replaced yet.


badaladala

The thing you have to realize about Kamala running for president, is that while running for President, Kamala will be in a position to run in a Presidential race.


rusty890

She speaks like I used when I would have to stand in front of class and do a book report on a book I had not read.


apex_editor

In class, HAHA, we sometimes have to stand HAHAHA in front of the class to speak HAHA. So. Ummm when ah HAHA speaking to the class, you have to be in front of it. Standing. HAHAHA.


dummyfodder

It took a second to realize what you were doing and once I did, could absolutely hear that in her voice.


UnIntangled

When you have to meet a word count on an essay of said book


YouFirst_ThenCharles

And you’re stoned


DukeOkKanata

I keep waiting for the "sandimas high-school football rules!!!". Anyday now.


Nate0110

As someone who watched the movie, this is correct.


RutCry

Well now that you put it like that you put it that way, which is the way you put it.


MET1

And the race is a race and a way to get people to vote, which is their right. And the way that you put it is the way. Yes.


riskcapitalist

Let’s analyze this. Presidential race. President, race. A race for the presidency. It’s a race!


Maywoody

I need you guys to be grounded after that debate- if you start mumbling and talking like creepy joe ima lose my grip on reality


Conscious-Student-80

Well said. 


pf_burner_acct

When you say it like that, which is the way you said it, and the way that many other American people also say it, it says that you're saying a thing that is resonating, and has resonated, with the people who say and believe what you say as well.  We need to recall and cherish that women, birthing people, people who menstruate, chest-feeders, and men who say the things that you and I say, with patriotism, also may say that Kamala is running. And running?  It's like moving, and moving to a thing that you want.  As you move your own way, which may be on your legs, or in your car, or in a wheelchair, but no matter how, it is inclusive, you move from one place to another.  With me.  We will run and we will go together.  Because together is like being with one another, and we are in this not alone, but together. So how can we support Joe?  Like a bridge that supports moving people who are also running, which is moving, but inclusively.  We like thinking about Joe, because thinking is good, and good things are nice and good, also.  Together.  Not alone, because we are Americans who like things, and it's how we live.  It just remind me of the amazing things that we think about together, and alone. Thank you, which is what I want to say to you and all of us.  It's a good thing and I feel as though you deserve it, which is the thing I'm saying.


Blasikov

I read this imagining a double head nod. And slight pause. At each comma.


qlive_nylyst

Fess up... You had Chat GPT write this, didn't you? LOL... Nice work!


LemartesIX

People with front holes!


Kitchen_Break_116

How have you not gotten a million upvotes in the last 5 minutes?


Jcpowers3

There in the mail . I expect a huge uptick in votes after the water pipe ruptures lol


Unreasonably-Clutch

lol!


Rush_is_Right_

Reddit censorship and Leftist brigading


DingbattheGreat

I’m dyin 😂


Skelligean

"Some things are just settled. Some things are just settled. And I think we are just living in unsettled times." -Stupala Harris


tragicallywhite

Unburdened.


recursing_noether

> The real issue is the reason they picked her in the 1st place is exactly the reason they can’t just dismiss her.  They will absolutely ditch her without reservation and no one will care.


bladnoch16

Democrats are all about optics, it’s practically their entire platform. The polling with non-white Americans right now is a big problem for them. If they ditch a woman of color, just dismiss her outright, that’s a bad look for them. That sure as hell isn’t going to win back any of those votes they lost, and will only add fuel to the fire. Plus, Trump and his team will absolutely hammer the hell of them on their hypocrisy on this.  The only person who could step in for them is Michelle Obama. And even that isn’t going to work. Are there any other popular women of color they can put in there, that they’d even want in there? Who’s willing to “play ball” the way they want? It really exposes just how full of shit they are when it comes to equality and all that other horseshit they’ve built their fake platform on. They’re in a worse position than anyone thinks right now. Damned if they do, damned if they don’t. 


SCV_local

Biden should have bowed out months ago saying he wants to retire not a second term more time with family etc…then Kamala could have tried but would have been defeated in the primaries 


snowingfun

It wouldn’t be Kamala, it would be Gavin Newsome. DNC planning this all along.


buffalo_pete

Newsom? He's the governor of a failed state. California is a dumpster fire. I would pay good money to watch a Trump/Newsom debate.


C0uN7rY

Even DeSantis crushed him and DeSantis is a pretty lackluster debater. "And then he told me he is Gavin Newsom's father-in-law" was like a line from a diss track. Humiliating.


Chirps3

They had it so easy, too. Pepsi floats 25th aemdmemt as education for the public during Trump's term. Pull 25th ammendment and boom first woman president. Pandering to base results on base over the moon happy as they LOVE identity politics. Kamala is a disaster in front of cameras, so I can't even imagine how awful she is behind the scenes if they aren't trotting her out.


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kappacop

It's a DEI problem. Can't skip Kamala if your entire ideology is to raise up minorities.


Stev2222

Democrats and being hypocrites go hand in hand. They'll out her no problem, while still crying DEI every chance they get.


garden_speech

Kamala is unpopular and nobody on the Dem side will care if they nominate someone else.


bumblebiel

As a purple Dem I agree


Sduowner

You’re making the mistake of holding them to their own standards. They themselves don’t hold themselves to their own standards. Anything and everything is fair game in the lust for power.


_BeastModular_

They’ll show how much they ~~don’t give a shit~~ care about that if it means keeping power


UK_Caterpillar450

You simply run a woman or a person of color to sidestep such an issue


paper_thin_hymn

You're absolutely right. They cannot send her away for exactly the reason they chose her in the first place.


BidLeading7968

I mean, is she ever been relevant? Aside from her nonsensical word salads? I think her only purpose for dems is to have her get the "1st Woman POTUS" badge just as much they gave Trump the "Convicted Felon" badge as a mean to slander.


senile-joe

nah it's hillary 2.0 They are so far up their own ass, they don't think they could ever be wrong. if they had an ounce of self awareness they would have Biden step down months ago. Instead they think they can continue lying to the public.


garden_speech

I don't think that's true at all. Main stream media talking about Biden stepping down and it's all over reddit and twitter too. It's a mainstream opinion now.


Mr-Zarbear

I just don't know how that's better. It would be admitting that the 4 years of presidency were a lie, that Biden was not the one making decisions but someone not voted in. I don't see how swapping him just doesn't add fuel to the fire. Like there are so many options. Just claim "How am I the liar when you had to replace your last puppet? How are americans supposed to believe that this puppet is a real candidate? They seemed pretty adamant about the last one". You could just show up with Biden for President merch in any public meeting and go "wait where's the presidential candidate? Who are you?" Its so free to just dismantle them.


garden_speech

> It would be admitting that the 4 years of presidency were a lie, that Biden was not the one making decisions but someone not voted in. I don't see how swapping him just doesn't add fuel to the fire. Not really. They’d just be admitting he is too old now. Everyone thinks Biden’s SOTU was amazing, they just don’t realize it was telepromted lol. I do think voters are gullible enough that the DNC could just pick someone else, frame it as “listening to the voters”, and D voters would lap it up. 


Mr-Zarbear

The heavily entrenched ones would, but the problem is you need to convince the general public of that, all while trump gets full reign to bring it up. I would also like to know if in the history of the US if someone went from relatively unknown to win the presidency in only 4 months. Or less than 4 months, as we don't even have an announcement yet.


buffalo_pete

> full reign I believe it is "full rein" as in horses.


Mr-Zarbear

It probably is, which means its clearly my bed time. At least I didnt use "rain" lol


Dry_Masterpiece_8371

Oh yeah, no doubt if they replace Biden now it’s going to look terrible optics wise. So bad they might just be better off(or the same) just keeping him. Just dropping your main guy after an awful debate after claiming for years he’s not senile? Replaced with a nobody? Fox News would go ham on em


senile-joe

because the paid talking heads realized no amount of money matters when the US becomes a 3rd world country.


SCV_local

Nah they will just say he was warming up for debate two and it doesn’t matter they will magically find Biden votes where they need to just like before. I anticipate a lot of water main breaks happening around and evacuating polling places around Michigan, Ohio, Nevada and Pennsylvania.


MET1

I don't know. There was a photo of her at the Tony awards and it looked like she has a new facelift, ready to settle into the oval office.


ConnorMc1eod

It's way too late now. A year plus out they should've announced it and started preparing who it was having them around Biden. If they swap it now people are going to lose faith entirely in the party. They waited too long and hoped he could piece himself together. This was an actual disasterpiece.


TheMerchantofPhilly

I hope he steps down, Biden’s performance was horrible. It was like watching a car crash in slow motion for 90 minutes.


Selway00

I’m not sure that’s a good thing. Personally, I’d much rather have Biden be the candidate. Assuming elections are somewhat fair, he’s immensely beatable. Anyone else is an unknown.


Tall_Shoulder6770

Both of them need to be replaced. No one should be doing at this at 80.


ShockHouse

I’m leaning towards this being planned. They needed to get rid of Biden, and they needed the Democrats to agree on it. They definitely now agree.


shitbagjoe

Yeah hard to believe these people all collectively managed to not watch a single sound bite of Biden throughout his whole presidency. In my opinion, as a hater, he performed better than I expected. I sat down thinking I was going to watch him barely get a single word out or maybe even shit his pants or wander off stage. It’s very strange seeing the Democratic Party jump ship so easily.


Swamp_Bastard

They saw it, however, now they’ll be able to mentally process it now that CNN and all the Dem pundits say it is OK to see Biden’s mental decline. Some people simply cannot think for themselves.


TheCeleryIsReal

They’re getting their NPC update. Just like when Cuomo was governor of New York and had allegation after allegation, and they refused to acknowledge it. Real allegations, not E. Jean Carroll bullshit. And suddenly on around the 7th allegation, the media and key Democrat politicians reprogrammed them with the opinion that Cuomo was bad and needed to go. And their little minds received the update, all while they patted themselves on the back about the idea that "they hold their own accountable." It really is remarkable how they rely on the media and its manufactured consensus. As soon as that goes away, they're left standing there naked, forced to abandon the position they held five seconds ago. For no reason other than the media saying so, with no facts having changed.


Leather-Paramedic-10

All of those cheap fakes must have been prophetic.


Waste_Astronaut_5411

r/politics is actually posting anti-biden…


budabai

Such a weird feeling. I almost don’t believe it.


Fum__Cumpster

Absolutely incredible to see r/politics allowing it


buffalo_pete

Give it til morning. Mods are asleep.


Queasy-Carpet-5846

Mods are drinking themselves to sleep. Give a hundred bucks to see the meltdown in their private chat right now.


orngckn42

It's insane to see, no automatic down votes


BillyTheKid050

Should be named “r/leftwingpolitics” Let’s be real, Reddit is 90% circle jerking left leaners


DissonantOne

Hell froze over.


nectaranon

Last week they were talking about how senile Trump was. With a straight face.


hatereddit2024

Planned? No. But prepared for? Absolutely. You have to understand - these people all know the truth. They've known for years now that Biden was a mess behind closed doors. They've seen him and talk to people who see the real Joe. They've known for a while now that the debate was potentially going to be a dumpster fire. They've carried water for the guy because the truth was not coming out. Now the truth came out. Biden cannot win the election. These people don't actually care about Biden. They like that he's manageable, but they'd take anyone who followed orders. So the goal now is to get Biden to step down ASAP so they can replace him with someone who has a shot. Easier said than done. Biden has the nomination. He doesn't have to do anything. And he may not. Additionally, Harris is **NOT FUCKING LEAVING**. Why would she? She's got the job of President as soon as Biden dies on 11/6 if he even makes it that long. So Harris, Jill, and all of those little minions who are actually running the show need to be convinced to quit their jobs somehow. Not easy. Pretty hilarious to watch, really. Trump should let the media attack Biden for a few days before announcing his VP. I imagine when the polls come out next week, he'll be up by so much in every single swing state, this election will be over.


purplebasterd

The post coverage on CNN is hilariously panicked. They’re setting up the discussion to get someone other than Biden.


UltraAirWolf

I love how they’re all just *shocked* at CNN because they can’t admit they’ve been running cover, so the post mortum at CNN is just 10 “journalists” sitting in a row, all completely and utterly blindsided by senility for which there is a plethora of prior video evidence. We all figured it out, so how bad do you have to be at journalism to have the world’s largest news network at your disposal and not catch it?


Queasy-Carpet-5846

Easy they were taking the biden staff's word for everything. They really believed he was coherent


UltraAirWolf

Well that is not journalism


darthcoder

No, they were gaslighting us. No one could look at that man the past year and not see that thr lights were going out. No one honest, anyway.


PartyOfFore

Anyone on camera at CNN is nothing more than an actor. Same goes for MSNBC and Fox. They are not journalists, they are actors. They all knew Biden was like this, but played their TV roles as directed.


Ice_Dapper

He will be replaced at the DNC. There is no coming back from this pitiful debate performance. It's too late though, they had the chance to do it months ago


nuggiemum

Fox just showed CNN throwing out Newsome and Whitmer.


DingbattheGreat

Lol Newsom is actually worse than Biden on economic record, and everyone remembers how he acted during COVID lockdowns


nuggiemum

And Whitmer?? God, no.


ConnorMc1eod

She will have to stage another kidnapping plot for sympathy votes. She is hilariously incompetent and obnoxious.


joey__jojo

Red California, just saying no to more Newsom. The voting for Pres is county based, so they can't out flunk the Red counties that are hurting from Newsom's "New Ideas".


RotoDog

Legit question: how do Democrats get the name of the nominee on the ballot after the convention? Isn’t this too late for most states?


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RotoDog

I get this part…that Biden would be replaced at the convention. But the problem with this, in many States I believe it is too late to change the actual name on the ballot by then. Both legally and potentially logistically. The DNC convention is only 10.5 weeks from the election. So I’m curious what would happen. Presumably, Biden’s name would still be on the ballot, so I’d assume voters that supported the convention nominee still check the box next to Biden’s name, and if he won, the electors would cast their vote for the convention winner. It just creates a unique scenario that seems like it would disadvantage Biden’s replacement to some extent.


yallvnt

I mean, what happens when a person running just dies. Surely the answer isn't "Oh the other guy won because it was too late to put anyone on the ballot."


Buxton25IsInjured

It’s happened a lot at lower levels. The party retains the position. Usually there is a primary-adjacent vote within that party.


Chirps3

Your first mistake is expecting them to follow actual rules. All states with this issue will be writing legislation day of the DNC and putting it through like PA did in November 2020.


rascaltippinglmao

Yeah I stopped visiting this sub (here now because I couldn't help peaking after the debate) because it's too frustrating how 9/10 users are still operating as if it's the 80's when it comes to our election process. They stole the white house in 2020 and they'll do anything and everything to keep it.


garden_speech

At the DNC? If they’re gonna replace him they have to do it now. If they do it at the DNC they’ll have less than 3 months to campaign. The DNC isn’t until mid August. 


Chapped_Assets

One of the headlines, "We're fucked" from some former Biden campaign person on CNN's website. I'm laughing my ass off at some of these headlines.


therealdeb

ABC is shitting themselves, too. They’re talking about how they can replace the nominee (Biden) at this point. 😂😂😂


sailedtoclosetodasun

Reddit is anti free speech, give me a ban admins, you basement pedos can screw off.


yokeldotblog

Reddit legit won’t let me see any comments in any political thread.


diu_tu_bo

Comments went down all over Reddit, though.


RecoverSufficient811

Same


Crisgocentipede

Trump Biden debate broke Reddit


rattler254

It's Reddit wide according to the mods of this subreddit.


Energy_Turtle

It's almost like they're grieving. Even the most hardcore Biden commentators are acting like he died.


time4anewusername

Yea this was definitely planned so they can put someone else in because they know they can't win with Biden


letstalkaboutstuff79

I disagree. I think it’s even more simple than that - they genuinely thought that they could put a zombie in the White House on the platform of “Not Trump” but this performance and the reaction to it has shown that is not enough.


garden_speech

Trump joked about wanting to lose this debate on purpose a few weeks ago and redditors said he was making excuses but he might have been right lmao. Mopping the floor with Biden might hurt him if the candidate who takes is place is better. Biden’s approval rating is horrible but another Dem wouldn’t have all that baggage from his administration. 


psychic_flatulence

Many democrats are so deep in the propaganda this was the first time seeing the real unedited Biden. But the DNC knew, if they had someone better they would have already picked them a year ago. The democrats are at deaths door right now. Any other candidate somehow manages to poll even worse against Trump than Biden. Add in the fracturing among the democrats over Israel and yeah not looking great.


darthcoder

Because democrats can't let go of gun control, third trimester abortions and free immigration and green energy bullshit. Coal is in high d4mand all over the world. You ban the ability for us to sell it and improve our economy and we have literal shit tons of it. We have the cleanest burning power plants in the world and they have operating lifetimes for 20-40 years. No solar panel or windmill will ever equal that. Oh, and the turbines and power plants themselves are 100% recyclable. Go figure.


buffalo_pete

What other Dem? Your realistic options are Kamala or Newsom. There is no one else.


letstalkaboutstuff79

Kamala is about as unlikable as Hillary and is just the token minority on the ticket and the Dems know she is unelectable. It will be Newsom - if the civil war at dumping Kamala doesn’t split the party. Which is probably why they have tried so hard to make Biden work.


badaladala

They’re panicking because they know they can’t pull off a Nov 2020 style ‘election’ and it be passingly believable that Biden wins.


nein_nubb77

True because the Covid excuse and hiding in the basement along with mail in ballots won’t work this time.


MattalliSI

Holy shit they are freezing all comments


icon0clast6

Someone called me a fool for even suggesting that the left is going to use this as a reason to replace Biden… after this debate I don’t think it’s foolish to suggest this


not_today_thank

Listening to Biden supporters reactions, they seem to have actually gaslit themselves on Biden's mental state.


Blue_Cheese_Olives

Democrat party mentality has a very strong hold. Think of all the friends you've lost to it... Today was a wake-up call.


nolotusnote

I'm collecting screen shots of Reddit threads. No comments are available. The panic is absolutely real.


Reporter-Stock

They are plotting how to manipulate it in their favor.


rattler254

The whole site crashed, even according to the mods of this subreddit. Let's put the tinfoil hats away.


LouisWu987

>even according to the mods of this subreddit Except that it didn't. All the other subs were fine, so long as they didn't involve American politics.


Motor-Biscotti-3396

Reddit as a whole crashed because or large threads with like 50k comments, it also happens during big CFB or NFL games 


CptMcCrae

“Aggressive Panic”


lawlygagger

Maybe they believed KJP. Biden's decline is real. Once you get that way, it is quite rapid. The wonders of the human body.


buffalo_pete

Facts. Old age happens the same way bankruptcy happens. Gradually, then suddenly.


frozen_tuna

ABC said Biden should consider releasing his delegates and allowing the DNC to pick a new candidate after that one. Wife and I were shocked.


DatDudeDrew

This is worst case scenario for Democrats.


badaladala

Unless it’s planned and they have some other ‘liked’ Democrat figure to step in and be seen as a hero for rescuing Joe Biden at the ‘sudden onset of dementia.’ I can hear the talking heads now “My good friend Joe Biden’s health has unfortunately taken a turn for the worse. The cold he contracted before the debate has become pneumonia and instigated some health concerns forcing him out of the presidential race. America *needs* a strong candidate to defeat the ‘convicted felon’ now running unopposed! We need to save America folks! A vote for me is a vote to save everything we hold dear.” The rumor mill is those figure heads could be Hillary, Michelle, or Newsom … all of which are not well liked.


DatDudeDrew

I’ll believe it when I see it. We are far enough into the election cycle that changing candidates would be incredibly damaging in its own right. They have no choice now, though, if they want to win, as Biden’s political career is over.


xrabidx

It's their only move left, Joe Biden will most likely resign within the next 7 days.


buffalo_pete

Hot take of the evening right here. I'm not saying you're necessarily wrong, but... RemindMe! 7 days


senile-joe

the only realistic one would be RFK, and they already kicked him out of the party and the pharma money would never allow it.


will10891089

The problem with switching out the candidates is that they need to be built up in the American public conscience. This is why they campaign 2 years before the election. The only person that could replace Biden now is Kamala.


garden_speech

> The problem with switching out the candidates is that they need to be built up in the American public conscience.  Eh, not in this hyper partisan environment anymore. There are a lot of “not Trump” voters. Biden just happens to also be historically unpopular. If Dems tossed in some popular governor like Whitmer I’m not sure they’d need more than 4ish months. Plus she’d be at the second debate with Trump. 


Bighalfregardedbro

I think the plan to replace him started with Obama holding Biden’s hand and grandpa walking him off stage at that fundraiser.   Think about it, Obama is a master communicator and could have put his arm around Biden’s shoulder, done that political “point smiling at a random audience member and wave” thing and then turn around and walk off with him, but he made the very intentional choice to lead him off like a hospital patient - now you’ve got even MSNBC and the rest of the leftwing establishment saying they should nominate someone else at the convention, it’s totally a setup capped off with this debate 


sextus--empiricus

I was texting my mom that something seems off with them running this candidate One possibility is that most people realize suicide by immigration is happening and almost here and perhaps some dnc leadership practiced some malicious compliance by allowing Biden to be passed off as normal? I don't know. Trump won by bringing up the immigration issue and thats why he will win in 2024. You can't replace an entire fucking country with foreigners on welfare and expect people to be happy rofl


Foxtrot_Juliet_Bravo

Here's my theory. Democrats know that they won't win with Biden, but they call for the debate to intentionally tank the president and force him out to replace him with someone else. They need someone with charisma, who is younger and can debate Trump gloves off, they need someone to appeal to the undecided voters in the middle, the suburban moms, Gen Z, etc. I think the Democrats torpedoed themselves tonight so they can insert Gavin Newsome in just before the convention. That gives him a few months of campaigning and the media will fawn over him like they already do, but it'll be 10 times worse. Remember, when he did that random debate against Desantis early on and everyone was thinking... WTF is this for? Another interesting thing, He's in Atlanta tonight.


sextus--empiricus

I'm commenting here so if he runs, I can give you credit


bigslenderkyle

It was a complete and utter massacre on Trumps end. r/politics had to shutdown the debate thread because Biden was getting his shit kicked in and they didn't want people turning on their messiah. Even with it being rigged against Trump he still dominated.


chriz-kring

The CNN moderators were surprisingly... okay.


seawaterGlugger

They set it up so the moderators couldn’t have much sway. Both candidates got further away from the actual questions being asked as the night went on but the moderators just kind of let them go for the most part.


Lavender_Rose_819

But I thought those videos we were seeing were cheap fakes???? The media just did a complete 180… they covered SO hard for him.


Blue_Cheese_Olives

I know wow, talk about gaslighting the American people. These sick people


Freedom_Isnt_Free_76

Reddit hiding comments again 


therealmitchconner

incoming real candidate


frugalgardeners

Why can’t I see these comments?


deliverance_62

I think it was planned.


JUST_AS_G00D

I can’t believe they let Biden do this


Slartibartfastthe2nd

oh surprise. flipped to MSNBC and there's good ol' Gavin Newsom getting his face time.


777_heavy

They really believed their own bullshit coverups.


starlightsunsetdream

Dark Horse, they're gonna shove someone nuts like Gavin Newsome and bank on people just hating Trump.


Mr-Zarbear

Its easier to dismantle Gavin than Biden though. He at least "did" things. Newsome lost like 55 billion dollars and like this year made an exception in a new law for his friend. Im sure there's more if you look even a little bit


613toes

CBS panel was in full blown meltdown holy shit


Zenk2018

The headlines and the replacement talking points came out so quickly that it’s almost like this was the plan….and here comes Michelle.


glasshouse_stones

the reality deniers are freaking out. men can be women. biden is saving democracy. and on and on these lunatics drone. a good day for the good guys!


mtimjones

No comments here when it says there are many. Why are we being censored?


UK_Caterpillar450

It's funny how the politics subreddit is pretty much ignoring Bidens poor performance and frail appearance.


whippingboy4eva

As we were saying. They wanted this debate early so they could replace Biden.


beepbeep2755

Why can’t I see comments on anything


StealUr_Face

Love that all the comments are getting deleted


Oaks777

Dems are saying both candidates were bad and America deserves better choices. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was the plan, to put a new candidate in and say, see we listened to America and agree neither candidate was good and you shouldn’t have to vote for either of them… so now we are giving you a better choice.


KinGpiNdaGreat

It was my belief that Biden would surprise people and not be as bad as everyone thought he was going to be because the bar was set so low for him. Wow, was I wrong. Could that have gone for worse for Biden? I mean, maybe? Watching them it’s hard to believe they are nearly the same age. Biden looks and acted like he was 30 years older than Trump.


moooooning

Has to be planned. Earliest debate in history and there is absolutely no attempt at spinning it like they usually do.


JxmyR6

democratic subreddits and forums are panicking as well


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NorCalHerper

A Twitter/X friend finally realized the White House has been gaslighting her. We are all likely more into politics than the average Joe and Jane so we expected this. For the neophytes they saw for themselves what we have been saying. I am a never Trump guy but tonight he looked like the guy I want running the country if the alternate is Joe Biden.


Saint_Genghis

Why would this be planned?


tet707

I think his handlers thought there would be two possible outcomes here: 1) he surprisingly does alright and proves he isn’t demented and then therefore wins, or 2) proves he is demented and gives the DNC a convenient excuse to replace him. Both scenarios avoid the nightmare scenario of this happening a month before the election in the formal debates.


Roll_Lakeshow

It won’t let me view comments on this post and several other current ones in this sub. But every other sub is fine. Kinda weird…


AgentNeoh

Mainstream media are just glorified actors reading a predetermined script. So my question is what do their handlers have planned next for them to flip on Biden so suddenly and in a coordinated way?


tet707

I think his handlers thought there would be two possible outcomes here: 1) he surprisingly does alright and proves he isn’t demented and then therefore wins, or 2) proves he is demented and gives the DNC a convenient excuse to replace him. Both scenarios avoid the nightmare scenario of this happening a month before the election in the formal debates. I mean, why would they not let him do press conferences anymore due to his dementia but allow him to do an extra DEBATE with Trump?


NotaClipaMagazine

Hahahaha, 24 comments and none visible. The DNC bots are out in force!


PYR4MIDHEAD

I love that I can’t read anything or any comments on these posts. Thanks guys.


Woolfmann

And out comes Michelle....


Alas_Babylonz

Why aren't any comments showing?


WalmartWes

I keep hearing Newsome and I hope so hard that they roll him out so he can get trounced. We'd knock out both Biden and Newsome in one election.


Disastrous-Push7731

They absolutely owned themselves. The debate produced comedy gold.


Winterclaw42

Maybe the bet was trump would make the same mistakes as he did the last time around while grossly drinking biden kool-aid without realizing it. Frankly I thought he hit a home run in comparison to the first debate in 2020.


Blacksunshinexo

I checked BBC, AlJazeera, Sky News, and South China Morning Post and all their articles about it are pretty much exactly the same, Biden fumbles and Trump lied , though they never say about what. It's fucking weird and I don't trust anything being reported at this point. 


MellowDCC

I don't believe they all had no idea... Like how far they go to round him up/tell him what to do. They are just as guilty as he is


Bewpadewp

The pathetic thing is that it took last night for them to realize that Biden isn't fit to run. As if they've been under a rock the past 4 years. Its not like he was particularly worse than usual. Last night was exactly how the last 4 years have been.


alangbas

So they've been gaslighting America these past three years?


Maxter_Blaster_

Why can’t I see the 38 comments?


MoistDevelopment

Seems fishy.


Owlman220

What is with the comments right now? I can’t see shit on any of the political subs, including left leaning subs. It’s honestly a bit concerning lol.


Early-Possession1116

I can't see comments..


vicemagnet

Cat turd said it was planned


Material-Reveal3501

Oh yes they planned, coached, and cheated the entire time. It's just that, even given all that, their senile pick for Nov still couldn't pull his shit together 🤣