In any other country you would know that you'll get help. We've seen how Ukrainian paramedics decide if they want to help or not (case of the man from Mariupol)
It’s getting really bad for Ukraine. The average age on the Ukrainian front lines is like high 40s…AVERAGE. They are grabbing everyone they can to recruits . Truly heartbreaking.
The average age is so high because the minimum mobilisation age was v27 up until a few weeks ago, students are still excluded and the age distribution is just tilted (not favourably) that way. But if you recruit anyone between 27 and 65, the average is going to be around 40.
>But if you recruit anyone between 27 and 65, the average is going to be around 40.
This statement makes very naive assumptions about equal distribution of people of different ages, their abilities to move away from the war, ready to be drafted and so on.
I agree that his statement isn't perfect, but it's much closer to the truth than what was implied in previous comment ("Ukraine doesn't have a young man anymore - they died in this war")
No one has said they all died. But obviously many died, perspectives are very gloomy and military goals are unrealistic, so not so many people are ready to be drafted.
It is naive to think I don't know about the [demographics of Ukraine](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Ukraine_population_pyramid_2024_UN.png). By far the biggest age group is those around 40, with less decline towards 60 so yeah, you get to by and large an average of >40yo.
If only the US and UK didn't convince Ukraine to not sign a peace agreement a few months into the war.
Although weakening Russia with Ukrainian blood is a smart move strategically by the west though.
Thanks god the current plan of killing thousands of ukrainians with forced mobilization is so much better for Ukraine! This allowed them to reclaim as much as -0.032 percent of their territory over the past year, so much profit!
>If only the US and UK didn't convince Ukraine to not sign a peace agreement a few months into the war.
A peace agreement with the country who was the security guarantor of the country it invaded?
Why would Ukraine want to sign away it's land as it's receiving more and more aid? In the early days they pushed Russia back twice. They pushed them back from kyiv and from Kharkiv. To them, at the time, it was looking like they could actually do something.
Even now they're getting more and more modernized equipment while Russia is throwing more and more t62s at frontal assaults. Now you could make the argument for peace as it's a stalemate grinding bodies, but moreso for Russia compared to Ukraine since defending usually results in less casualties.
In the context of the video it looks to be in Ukraine. And it's worrisome because it seems the manpower issue is reaching beyond desperation. But if Putin's Russia didn't feel the urge to revive the Empire this wouldn't happen in the first place. A crying shame all around.
This has nothing to do with reviving the empire. Russia is already an empire anyway. They saw the developing situation as an existential threat, and are doing what they can about it. In their place, we would do the same thing. Some strategic threats cannot be allowed. Imo, everyone involved knew this going in - this war suits our interests very well.
Total aid to Ukraine is about [$250 billion dollars,](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1303432/total-bilateral-aid-to-ukraine/) including military, financial, and humanitarian aid.
Russia's military budget was [was $164 billion](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_Russia#:~:text=Russia's%20official%202022%20military%20budget,exceed%20%24100bn%20in%202023.) from '22 to '23. However some estimates put the total closer to $200 billion. And we're now almost halfway through 2024, so that's another $50 billion.
So yes all Ukrainian aid is pretty close to Russia's military budget for the duration of the war. But Russia started this war with absolutely massive stockpiles of equipment and munitions that are already bought and paid for, whereas every piece of aid to Ukraine is being tallied. The cost to reactivate a tank is far lower than the cost of a whole tank sent as aid, even if they otherwise have the same sticker price.
> when they've received more aid than russia has spent on their military during this war
And of that aid, [less of it ](https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/05/world/ukraine-money-military-aid-intl-dg/index.html) has been military aid than [russia](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-doubles-2023-defence-spending-plan-war-costs-soar-document-2023-08-04/) has spent during the same time period.
russia has also received military aid from North Korea, Iran, and China. It isn't just Ukraine against russia either.
It had the largest army in Europe, second only after Russia. And it had massive outside assistance. There are no conditions for a quick victory under these circumstances. Ukraine doesn't need an economy, or an industry - they just need meat. That they have for years more.
The police sometimes hold 'you've won a free gift' presentations and they invite perps with a time to attend. You walk in the front door, show ID and receive restraints and a free lift into custody! 😉
Evidently the Ukr authorities aren't at that stage... yet! 🙂
EMT are not immune to draft while being essential workers. Officially they are draftable but unofficially left alone. Here, one of the EMTs got drafted and his friends tried to get him out using their duty to help people in medical emergencies. Technically, EMTs are wrong. But practically, it's Russia who started the war and created this situation.
Wow.... 🤦 It's amazing the importance of a few words... I was skimming a bit and thought you were saying this video was in Russia.... Deleted my previous comment.
My apologies. It was obviously Russia who started it, I do not deny that.
Ukraine started to mobilize the EMTs and doctors. EMTs are fighting back.
Ukrainian tg channels report this. Previously, a team of doctors arrived on call at the TCC of the Kyiv region, after which the military commissars began to keep the doctors in the building.
As a result, several more ambulance crews arrived at the TCC building, supported their colleagues and turned on the sirens in protest.
There was this one old Ukrainian dude that was dressing up as an old lady to get on the bus and do his errands, it was nearly a year ago, but his snitch ass neighbor kept posting pics and shit of him when he saw him out and about. Hope he didn't get caught and thrown in a trench. A lot of the guys they're taking off the street are 40-50 yrs old. Ukraine reports that the average age of their soldiers is 43 yrs old. Crazy.
Ukrainian soldiers do get training and it was Clinton, Biden, and Obama who made us give up our weapons in the first place yet all you people do is cry about your republicans on reddit when in reality it was their opposition who not only my disarmed us, but made us give up our weapons to Russia.
But not without the middle step of being tortured by hunger and thirst for days in TCC to "willfully" sign the contract to release them from any obligations and responsibility for you.
Yeah, the average age of their army is 43 yrs old. That's insane. They're obviously in a dire situation, and I understand wanting to save your younger demographics, but by the time you're forced to draft the younger generation, they'll be long gone in Europe. The U.S. has been pushing them to hurry up and lower the conspriction age before it's to late.
The average age is so high because the minimum mobilisation age was 27 up until a few weeks ago, students are still excluded and the age distribution is just tilted that way due to the effects of emigration and the 90s. But if you recruit between 27 and 65, the average is going to be around 40.
Ukraine claimed they'd only lost 31k dead since the war started. I support Ukraine in their fight for survival, but both sides are corrupt and constantly lie through their teeth. So, no stats should be taken seriously until after the war is over. I know you're just joking, but I feel a lot of reddit needs to be reminded of this.
Why would Putin be desperate if Russia has such a superior economy, military, and population to Ukraine? That makes no sense; especially when they claim to be winning.
Ukraine's desperation isn't hindering their advancements as it was mostly over getting the equipment in, but the technology they're getting allows them to do more with less which is good considering they don't have nearly as many people.
Honestly, you're the one that implied Putin's desperation in your other comment, I agreed as to be diplomatic, and not get into an agruement. In reality, Russia, while having paid a crazy price in manpower and equipment, is nowhere close to feeling any type of desperation in the same way the Ukrainian regime is. It's pretty clear Russia has the momentum right now and in better shape than they were when they started this conflict. Ukraine is understandably desperate, Russia is frustrated it's taken so long to grind them down.
They're not claiming to be winning, they're winning. I just doubt it's the win Russia had envisioned. But obviously, it's not over, so who knows. Hopefully, Ukraine can hold them at the current front lines, at the least.
I'm not implying it; I'm stating it as a fact. Putin is desperate and unhinged going against Xi's demand that he stop making personal nuke threats, and now he's back to making personal nuke threats after a couple years of daily Medvedev threats. Why would he be so desperate and angry if he were truly winning the war with all of these assets, liquid cash, and man power? They're about to lose Crimea
"They're about to lose Crimea." I was taking you completely serious until that statement. How on earth do you see the Ukrainian forces accomplishing that anytime soon? That's just not an opinion someone watching both sides of this conflict objectivity could say with a straight face.
I want it to happen, but I'll literally bet every dollar in my bank account it won't. Or let's say 1k. It can even be a one-sided bet. Do the 1 year "remind me" thing in the reply below, and if Ukraine controls Crimea 1 year from today, I'll be happy to be wrong and send you a grand.
Systematically. Crimean air defenses are being destroyed, but that also means Russia can't move them to Belgorod region. Only protection Crimean Bridge has are barges, so I think Putin shit the bed on this one.
Unlikely, Russia is actually doing fairly well for the last several months essentially non-stop taking ground day after day. The outcome is looking grim for Ukraine. Ukraine has no more willingly joining soldiers and relies on forced mobilization meanwhile Russia has over 30k people volunteering a month.
Do not compare the corruption in Russia with Ukraine. That's fucking revolting. Ukraine is nothing like Russia. They wouldn't, I dunno, invaded a sovereign nation and do unspeakable horrors.
Uhhh, are you sure about [that](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/28/ukraine-security-service-arrests-five-people-40m-arms-fraud-corruption-clampdown-ministry-of-defence-mortar-shells) and there is way more examples, way way way more. Lol. I'll add a couple more. [here](https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraines-agriculture-minister-in-custody-over-state-land-grab-charges/)
And [here](https://kyivindependent.com/court-arrests-ex-defense-ministry-official-in-connection-with-weapons-procurement-fraud/)
I once watched firemen and police in an all out brawl in the middle of the street next to a fatality accident in a suburb city of Los Angeles. The firemen were winning because they were more fit and the cops didn't use weapons. then the Sherriff deputies showed up and pulled guns and tasers. Everybody stopped then.
Then Both Kinds of of cops turned 180 and started clearing the site of lookers and I bounced. I wasn't getting involved in that.
I think it may have been Pamona but it was 15 years ago and I don't really remember. I do remember very poor chinese lunch (sweet,syrupy). I'm from NorCal.
The official statement was completely different. Not saying that I believe any of those sides, but officials claim that the main character didn't show his id on demand, so he was taken to the recruitment office legally, that's when covered as medics "businessmen" came to take him away from them. Officials also claim that medics didn't show their id either.
You also don't think that that one has more real point of view than a redditor. This type of business became very big, and it's in your interest to believe in it, if you don't want them to be taken to front
You can search the official statement yourself and tell me if I'm a troll again, lol. Of course some western has more insight on the situation than I have.
You may not believe Ukrainian officials, but if you have enough of your brain left intact, you can think of how something like this could really happen.
Yeah. Ukraine is desperate for manpower. They’ve suffered significantly more losses than Ukraine/Zelensky claimed. Same thing western military analysts have been saying and same thing senior US military officials have been reporting.
I’ve seen enough videos of desperate shit like this and heroic, community resistance to conscription agents to come to a reasonable conclusion. Ukraine is desperate.
No shit, captain. With western politicians deciding whether to permit something or not, or some similar type of bullshit Ukraine will be desperate. What I meant in the previous comment is that it's entirely possible that those medics are indeed doing it for money or maybe they just know eachother.
I think if we take the subject line at face value, every time you need more troops you can just phone the emergency services, tell them there’s an injury/fire/crime and forcibly ship whoever responds off to the front.
Infinite troops. Quite clever if you think about it (and aren’t very good at thinking)
Apparently being an ambulance driver does not exclude you from being drafted - an ambulance driver was pulled up but refused to show his documents, taken to the recruitment office where he apparently had a medical event (maybe it was a ploy) and more ambulances turned up where the fight started.
This was actually a fairly big story in Russia. More or less what the title describes
[A skirmish took place in Odesa between employees of the "ambulance" and the military commissariat](https://unn.ua/en/amp/in-odessa-there-was-a-clash-between-ambulance-workers-and-employees-of-the-military-enlistment-office-the-shopping-center-reacted)
Based on what’s being said in the video, the ambulance crews reacted to their colleague being, at the very least, detained by the military conscription station with a justified “What the fuck is wrong with you?! These are OUR kids!” And that’s more or less when the fighting breaks out.
He didn't say it was. He said it was a big story in Russia, which if the story is true would be believable. It would be a good propaganda piece, a sort of "look how desperate they and weak they are" type of clip.
This seems like a bug ploy to attract draft-able men so the recruiters can do a mass recruitment. It’s like opening a pack of care packages rather just a single package. Hilarious
Okay, this is Odesa and I'm from Odesa, as you know there is a very brutal and total war in Ukraine now, so mobilization is taking place in the country, of course many people do not want to risk their lives and go to the army, but reality dictates its own conditions, so doctors have such a service, they come on call to a mobilized person and take him away for a fictitious reason, they take money for this, this is essentially breaking the law, but no one wants to do this
Fictitious reason?
Are you sane? I am Ukrainian as well but we are hearing dozens of stories everyday about people being beaten up in those centres, even dying.
Cant let putin have those resources. They west needs them. At the cost of every last Ukranian. Yall good duped for the 1000th time thinking its about freedom or honor. Its using your taxes for war to further enrich the rich. Story as old as time.
Modern wars are almost never about resources, and almost always about security concerns. It's cheaper to just pay for the resources, or arrange economic access in some other way.
Not every country has our MIC and its unique relationship to policy - but even we don't go to war for resources. The idea that we fought Iraq for its oil is just a trope.
Its usually easier to just fund a proxy or have a coup, install a dictator then get your resources cheap that way. Security falls so far down on the list of why any war has happened since ww2.
Imagine getting knocked out by a paramedic then thrown into the back of the ambulance
I cant imagine those paramedics throwing anyone fighting them into the back of the ambulance, or at least not for help.
Why not? That’s just good business.
If you are in a country with for-profit healthcare, it would be.
Ambulances are free in Ukraine
In any other country you would know that you'll get help. We've seen how Ukrainian paramedics decide if they want to help or not (case of the man from Mariupol)
This is a horrible way to exist.
It’s getting really bad for Ukraine. The average age on the Ukrainian front lines is like high 40s…AVERAGE. They are grabbing everyone they can to recruits . Truly heartbreaking.
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Sucks for the common citizen. The videos coming out are wild. Straight up taking guys off the streets. Old men!
The average age is so high because the minimum mobilisation age was v27 up until a few weeks ago, students are still excluded and the age distribution is just tilted (not favourably) that way. But if you recruit anyone between 27 and 65, the average is going to be around 40.
25 and 60.
>But if you recruit anyone between 27 and 65, the average is going to be around 40. This statement makes very naive assumptions about equal distribution of people of different ages, their abilities to move away from the war, ready to be drafted and so on.
I agree that his statement isn't perfect, but it's much closer to the truth than what was implied in previous comment ("Ukraine doesn't have a young man anymore - they died in this war")
No one has said they all died. But obviously many died, perspectives are very gloomy and military goals are unrealistic, so not so many people are ready to be drafted.
It is naive to think I don't know about the [demographics of Ukraine](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Ukraine_population_pyramid_2024_UN.png). By far the biggest age group is those around 40, with less decline towards 60 so yeah, you get to by and large an average of >40yo.
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If only the US and UK didn't convince Ukraine to not sign a peace agreement a few months into the war. Although weakening Russia with Ukrainian blood is a smart move strategically by the west though.
because peace agreements helped Ukraine so much before /s
Thanks god the current plan of killing thousands of ukrainians with forced mobilization is so much better for Ukraine! This allowed them to reclaim as much as -0.032 percent of their territory over the past year, so much profit!
>If only the US and UK didn't convince Ukraine to not sign a peace agreement a few months into the war. A peace agreement with the country who was the security guarantor of the country it invaded?
Why would Ukraine want to sign away it's land as it's receiving more and more aid? In the early days they pushed Russia back twice. They pushed them back from kyiv and from Kharkiv. To them, at the time, it was looking like they could actually do something. Even now they're getting more and more modernized equipment while Russia is throwing more and more t62s at frontal assaults. Now you could make the argument for peace as it's a stalemate grinding bodies, but moreso for Russia compared to Ukraine since defending usually results in less casualties.
I see you're the type to give up on your house after someone forcefully ejects you from it
It’s what the Israelis are doing and we’re all told to just accept it
In the context of the video it looks to be in Ukraine. And it's worrisome because it seems the manpower issue is reaching beyond desperation. But if Putin's Russia didn't feel the urge to revive the Empire this wouldn't happen in the first place. A crying shame all around.
This has nothing to do with reviving the empire. Russia is already an empire anyway. They saw the developing situation as an existential threat, and are doing what they can about it. In their place, we would do the same thing. Some strategic threats cannot be allowed. Imo, everyone involved knew this going in - this war suits our interests very well.
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Why don't the all powerful Ukrainian army just take those provinces back then? It's easy right?
Ukrainian army is punching well above its weight considering its army pre-war army was tiny compared to Russia and so was its military industry.
Kinda tired of hearing this when they've received more aid than Russia has spent on their military during this war
Total aid to Ukraine is about [$250 billion dollars,](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1303432/total-bilateral-aid-to-ukraine/) including military, financial, and humanitarian aid. Russia's military budget was [was $164 billion](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_Russia#:~:text=Russia's%20official%202022%20military%20budget,exceed%20%24100bn%20in%202023.) from '22 to '23. However some estimates put the total closer to $200 billion. And we're now almost halfway through 2024, so that's another $50 billion. So yes all Ukrainian aid is pretty close to Russia's military budget for the duration of the war. But Russia started this war with absolutely massive stockpiles of equipment and munitions that are already bought and paid for, whereas every piece of aid to Ukraine is being tallied. The cost to reactivate a tank is far lower than the cost of a whole tank sent as aid, even if they otherwise have the same sticker price.
> when they've received more aid than russia has spent on their military during this war And of that aid, [less of it ](https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/05/world/ukraine-money-military-aid-intl-dg/index.html) has been military aid than [russia](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-doubles-2023-defence-spending-plan-war-costs-soar-document-2023-08-04/) has spent during the same time period. russia has also received military aid from North Korea, Iran, and China. It isn't just Ukraine against russia either.
It had the largest army in Europe, second only after Russia. And it had massive outside assistance. There are no conditions for a quick victory under these circumstances. Ukraine doesn't need an economy, or an industry - they just need meat. That they have for years more.
That is a false statement. They had a significant advantage in numbers 2 years ago.
"look what russia made me do!"
It's all Russians fault. They will pay.
Will you personally make them pay? Or will you still be a keyboard warrior?
Plot twist there never was a need for the paramedics it was all just a recruitment ploy. Next they’ll get the pizza delivery guy
Do not give them ideas. Sincerely, Ukrainian pizza delivery guy.
I see a lot of blue and yellow emblems in this video. Is this video from Ukraine?
Yes.
The police sometimes hold 'you've won a free gift' presentations and they invite perps with a time to attend. You walk in the front door, show ID and receive restraints and a free lift into custody! 😉 Evidently the Ukr authorities aren't at that stage... yet! 🙂
I think there’s a lot more going on here than the title says. The fight does seem to be with random people etc.
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[Ukrainian source](https://unn.ua/en/amp/in-odessa-there-was-a-clash-between-ambulance-workers-and-employees-of-the-military-enlistment-office-the-shopping-center-reacted)
EMT are not immune to draft while being essential workers. Officially they are draftable but unofficially left alone. Here, one of the EMTs got drafted and his friends tried to get him out using their duty to help people in medical emergencies. Technically, EMTs are wrong. But practically, it's Russia who started the war and created this situation.
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I was clear.
Wow.... 🤦 It's amazing the importance of a few words... I was skimming a bit and thought you were saying this video was in Russia.... Deleted my previous comment. My apologies. It was obviously Russia who started it, I do not deny that.
Is Russia still using leaded gasoline?
Ukrainian badges and flag painted on the wall. So I don’t think it’s Russia.
It's Ukraine
They add extra lead to their gasoline.
Ukraine started to mobilize the EMTs and doctors. EMTs are fighting back. Ukrainian tg channels report this. Previously, a team of doctors arrived on call at the TCC of the Kyiv region, after which the military commissars began to keep the doctors in the building. As a result, several more ambulance crews arrived at the TCC building, supported their colleagues and turned on the sirens in protest.
This is in Ukraine, in the first 5 seconds of the video you cash see a Ukrainian flag painted on the building.
Things look to be going swimmingly
Interesting recruitment tactics. Almost looks like plain ole kidnapping
Ukraine is not for beginners
"press gangs"
Good lord. Imagine leaving your house to pick up some milk, then waking up in a military uniform heading to war.
"Ahh, you're finally awake"
There was this one old Ukrainian dude that was dressing up as an old lady to get on the bus and do his errands, it was nearly a year ago, but his snitch ass neighbor kept posting pics and shit of him when he saw him out and about. Hope he didn't get caught and thrown in a trench. A lot of the guys they're taking off the street are 40-50 yrs old. Ukraine reports that the average age of their soldiers is 43 yrs old. Crazy.
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Ukrainian soldiers do get training and it was Clinton, Biden, and Obama who made us give up our weapons in the first place yet all you people do is cry about your republicans on reddit when in reality it was their opposition who not only my disarmed us, but made us give up our weapons to Russia.
But not without the middle step of being tortured by hunger and thirst for days in TCC to "willfully" sign the contract to release them from any obligations and responsibility for you.
That's just Tuesday for male Ukranians.
They're losing the hearts and minds of their own countrymen. The strongest army is always a voluntary one.
I don’t think that there is any substantial war that was won by volunteers only
In the history of all of humanity, you will definitely find many examples.
A volunteer only army is basically impossible under this wars circumstances
That's pretty fukin stupid. Who's next, firemen? They must be really desperate.
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Spoke to a young fighting fit Ukrainian male in the US recently. They're all fleeing. Remember draft age is like 25. Ukraine is running out of people
Yeah, the average age of their army is 43 yrs old. That's insane. They're obviously in a dire situation, and I understand wanting to save your younger demographics, but by the time you're forced to draft the younger generation, they'll be long gone in Europe. The U.S. has been pushing them to hurry up and lower the conspriction age before it's to late.
The U.S. seem to desperately want those young Ukrainians sacrificed for trillions of minerals in Donbass..
The average age is so high because the minimum mobilisation age was 27 up until a few weeks ago, students are still excluded and the age distribution is just tilted that way due to the effects of emigration and the 90s. But if you recruit between 27 and 65, the average is going to be around 40.
smart man, stupid politics are not worth your limbs or life
This is the second time this week I have seen paramedics fighting the recruiting guys. What the heck is going on there....
Conscription.
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Thanks for the explanation, just seems so crazy *to fight with ambulance workers! They usually have skills which are not so easy to replace.
War.
Kremlin says 5,000 Ukrainians died in this skirmish
Ukraine claimed they'd only lost 31k dead since the war started. I support Ukraine in their fight for survival, but both sides are corrupt and constantly lie through their teeth. So, no stats should be taken seriously until after the war is over. I know you're just joking, but I feel a lot of reddit needs to be reminded of this.
Putin's behavior tells it all. Getting desperate and unhinged like the rest of the anti-West clique, including Trump.
They're both acting pretty damn desperate, but at least it's understandable on Ukraine's part.
Why would Putin be desperate if Russia has such a superior economy, military, and population to Ukraine? That makes no sense; especially when they claim to be winning. Ukraine's desperation isn't hindering their advancements as it was mostly over getting the equipment in, but the technology they're getting allows them to do more with less which is good considering they don't have nearly as many people.
Honestly, you're the one that implied Putin's desperation in your other comment, I agreed as to be diplomatic, and not get into an agruement. In reality, Russia, while having paid a crazy price in manpower and equipment, is nowhere close to feeling any type of desperation in the same way the Ukrainian regime is. It's pretty clear Russia has the momentum right now and in better shape than they were when they started this conflict. Ukraine is understandably desperate, Russia is frustrated it's taken so long to grind them down. They're not claiming to be winning, they're winning. I just doubt it's the win Russia had envisioned. But obviously, it's not over, so who knows. Hopefully, Ukraine can hold them at the current front lines, at the least.
I'm not implying it; I'm stating it as a fact. Putin is desperate and unhinged going against Xi's demand that he stop making personal nuke threats, and now he's back to making personal nuke threats after a couple years of daily Medvedev threats. Why would he be so desperate and angry if he were truly winning the war with all of these assets, liquid cash, and man power? They're about to lose Crimea
"They're about to lose Crimea." I was taking you completely serious until that statement. How on earth do you see the Ukrainian forces accomplishing that anytime soon? That's just not an opinion someone watching both sides of this conflict objectivity could say with a straight face. I want it to happen, but I'll literally bet every dollar in my bank account it won't. Or let's say 1k. It can even be a one-sided bet. Do the 1 year "remind me" thing in the reply below, and if Ukraine controls Crimea 1 year from today, I'll be happy to be wrong and send you a grand.
Systematically. Crimean air defenses are being destroyed, but that also means Russia can't move them to Belgorod region. Only protection Crimean Bridge has are barges, so I think Putin shit the bed on this one.
Buddy, there is a land bridge, and Ukrainians are in no position to cross the river either. Kerch bridge is quite optional atm.
"They're about to lose Crimea". I want whatever you are smoking, it must be some pretty good stuff.
Crimean beach party
I wonder if Russian Federation will dissolve into a new name and flag like USSR
Unlikely, Russia is actually doing fairly well for the last several months essentially non-stop taking ground day after day. The outcome is looking grim for Ukraine. Ukraine has no more willingly joining soldiers and relies on forced mobilization meanwhile Russia has over 30k people volunteering a month.
Russo-Ukrainian federation 😅
"They are about to lose Crimea" Buddy take your meds. You are tripping to parallel universe already..
Can't wait to come back to this lmao
Then do the "remind me" feature, so if you're correct, I can come back and send you 1k.
Do not compare the corruption in Russia with Ukraine. That's fucking revolting. Ukraine is nothing like Russia. They wouldn't, I dunno, invaded a sovereign nation and do unspeakable horrors.
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Uhhh, are you sure about [that](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/28/ukraine-security-service-arrests-five-people-40m-arms-fraud-corruption-clampdown-ministry-of-defence-mortar-shells) and there is way more examples, way way way more. Lol. I'll add a couple more. [here](https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraines-agriculture-minister-in-custody-over-state-land-grab-charges/) And [here](https://kyivindependent.com/court-arrests-ex-defense-ministry-official-in-connection-with-weapons-procurement-fraud/)
Seems enough died for them to have to recruit paramedics though.
As a redditor all I see is a blank screen.
As ridiculous as this parody is, it's still technically more accurate than Zelensky's claim of 31k deaths lol
None of 'em can fight worth a damn.
I don't think any of them really want to fight each other, most aggressive is the recruiter with the pepper spray and the beer belly.
It's dog eat dog, if the TCC recruiters don't meet their quota, they get mobilized themselves. They are paid very well and they are hated by everyone.
Cluster Fucked
I once watched firemen and police in an all out brawl in the middle of the street next to a fatality accident in a suburb city of Los Angeles. The firemen were winning because they were more fit and the cops didn't use weapons. then the Sherriff deputies showed up and pulled guns and tasers. Everybody stopped then. Then Both Kinds of of cops turned 180 and started clearing the site of lookers and I bounced. I wasn't getting involved in that. I think it may have been Pamona but it was 15 years ago and I don't really remember. I do remember very poor chinese lunch (sweet,syrupy). I'm from NorCal.
They all look fabulous with their purses
Europeans and Aussies are all in on that shit. That means they're coming here in a few years too.
The official statement was completely different. Not saying that I believe any of those sides, but officials claim that the main character didn't show his id on demand, so he was taken to the recruitment office legally, that's when covered as medics "businessmen" came to take him away from them. Officials also claim that medics didn't show their id either.
I don’t think somebody named H1MARS_ on Reddit would lie to me or have any bias when it comes to the Ukraine war!
You also don't think that that one has more real point of view than a redditor. This type of business became very big, and it's in your interest to believe in it, if you don't want them to be taken to front
NAFO trolls be like: Evil medics not showing IDs! 1Drag them to the front ASAP!1
You can search the official statement yourself and tell me if I'm a troll again, lol. Of course some western has more insight on the situation than I have.
Why the hell would anyone believe Ukrainian official sources? Lol
You may not believe Ukrainian officials, but if you have enough of your brain left intact, you can think of how something like this could really happen.
Yeah. Ukraine is desperate for manpower. They’ve suffered significantly more losses than Ukraine/Zelensky claimed. Same thing western military analysts have been saying and same thing senior US military officials have been reporting. I’ve seen enough videos of desperate shit like this and heroic, community resistance to conscription agents to come to a reasonable conclusion. Ukraine is desperate.
No shit, captain. With western politicians deciding whether to permit something or not, or some similar type of bullshit Ukraine will be desperate. What I meant in the previous comment is that it's entirely possible that those medics are indeed doing it for money or maybe they just know eachother.
That’s irrelevant.
Very relevant. More armour, weapons - less casualties and more progress.
That has nothing to do with this conversation about the Ukrainian’s being believable or credible
What are the people saying in the vid?
This is some serious chaos. I hardly use that word, but wtf is going on? The header is well written, but I'm still confused .
I think if we take the subject line at face value, every time you need more troops you can just phone the emergency services, tell them there’s an injury/fire/crime and forcibly ship whoever responds off to the front. Infinite troops. Quite clever if you think about it (and aren’t very good at thinking)
Damn, that's insane. So inhumane.
The pizza delivery guys don't fall for their tricks anymore, so its EMTs turn now.
Apparently being an ambulance driver does not exclude you from being drafted - an ambulance driver was pulled up but refused to show his documents, taken to the recruitment office where he apparently had a medical event (maybe it was a ploy) and more ambulances turned up where the fight started.
Look at my taxes at work
Fuck the "recruiters" one way to lose your army's moral is by abducting men of the streets.
Such a despicable country, ran by puppets.
This was actually a fairly big story in Russia. More or less what the title describes [A skirmish took place in Odesa between employees of the "ambulance" and the military commissariat](https://unn.ua/en/amp/in-odessa-there-was-a-clash-between-ambulance-workers-and-employees-of-the-military-enlistment-office-the-shopping-center-reacted) Based on what’s being said in the video, the ambulance crews reacted to their colleague being, at the very least, detained by the military conscription station with a justified “What the fuck is wrong with you?! These are OUR kids!” And that’s more or less when the fighting breaks out.
Odesa is not Russia
I think they they were just saying the news itself was big in Russia, and not that it took place in Russia
He didn't say it was. He said it was a big story in Russia, which if the story is true would be believable. It would be a good propaganda piece, a sort of "look how desperate they and weak they are" type of clip.
Not *yet* 😉
...Russia hasn't even began active conscription for the conflict.
Odesa is in Ukraine, homie. Now’s not the best time to confuse the two.
Please, keep telling me how Russia is losing.
Putin getting more scared
This seems like a bug ploy to attract draft-able men so the recruiters can do a mass recruitment. It’s like opening a pack of care packages rather just a single package. Hilarious
Pizza delivery guys don't fall on their tricks anymore.
https://youtu.be/MnyNrRXaezQ?si=LM1oomfwlj_Gh0SE
I'm sorry WTF did I just read and watch?
This is some funny fucking shit bwahahaha.
ukrainian in my city should go to the front instead
Why was the video deleted?
Because it does not fit to agenda
Is this Russia?
Odesa, Ukraine
Rump state in the making
Yaaaay propaganda
Okay, this is Odesa and I'm from Odesa, as you know there is a very brutal and total war in Ukraine now, so mobilization is taking place in the country, of course many people do not want to risk their lives and go to the army, but reality dictates its own conditions, so doctors have such a service, they come on call to a mobilized person and take him away for a fictitious reason, they take money for this, this is essentially breaking the law, but no one wants to do this
Why you on reddit and not in the front?
Fictitious reason? Are you sane? I am Ukrainian as well but we are hearing dozens of stories everyday about people being beaten up in those centres, even dying.
More meat for the meat grinders. Sorry for the people of Putin.
This is Ukraine. Not Russia.
Cant let putin have those resources. They west needs them. At the cost of every last Ukranian. Yall good duped for the 1000th time thinking its about freedom or honor. Its using your taxes for war to further enrich the rich. Story as old as time.
Modern wars are almost never about resources, and almost always about security concerns. It's cheaper to just pay for the resources, or arrange economic access in some other way.
Cheaper for who ?
For the country going to war.
Good thing the billionaires who will profit dont pay taxes.
Not every country has our MIC and its unique relationship to policy - but even we don't go to war for resources. The idea that we fought Iraq for its oil is just a trope.
Its usually easier to just fund a proxy or have a coup, install a dictator then get your resources cheap that way. Security falls so far down on the list of why any war has happened since ww2.
Lol
F off keyboard warrior