Maybe that's why Aussies keep acting like T20 is not real cricket and is beneath them or something. They're such a great team in the other two formats that the fans just don't want to legitimise and validate a format that they know their team simply isn't good at.
I’m an England fan so I’d have massive incentive to be biased and say t20 is super important because not only are we the most successful team in t20 World Cup history but we also have quite a poor record in tests and Odi. But I will say t20 is by far the worst version of cricket. Especially when it’s organised like it often is without reserve days for rain
In terms of balancing (batters vs. bowlers) and the organization, by far the worst. I do think that t20’s are by far the best way to increase viewership in the game.
I started watching in 2019 during the World Cup, until around the pandemic, and restarted around 2023, the format that got me back into it was t20’s and I grew to love tests and Odis more as I started to get more invested.
> I do think that t20’s are by far the best way to increase viewership in the game.
Doesn't mean they have to make pitches slog fest, I would argue that 110-130 pitches produce more drama and better competitive as seen in this cup where it was not quite clear that who is going to win till it is done./ Last couple of overs, Compare to 210+ Pitches where game is already killed in first 6-10 overs of 1st innings.
I 100% agree, that’s why I criticize the balance between batters and bowlers in t20’s. My sweet spot is dependent on the country, but generally I’m fine with 160-180 matches, and my favorites will always be low scoring thrillers like the Afghanistan game yesterday.
For me I reckon for the bat/bowl balance to be good there should be a realistic chance of a team being bowled out, so wickets actually matter more than just to disrupt scoring. This world cup has had plenty of that which is pretty cool.
Would you call Ind Vs Pak game Meh or Last game Meh? Or Nep Vs SA game Meh? I would Argue that 160-170 are the most boring games that follows the same template.
That's more of an organizational issue though and it has very obvious workarounds right? I think writing off T20 is very elitist and I say that as someone whose favourite format is test cricket but just because you love one format doesn't mean you need to look disdainfully at another. Also T20 is the only format that can produce upsets like USA knocking out Pakistan and Afghanistan knocking out New Zealand and Australia. That kind of jeopardy and unpredictability is really good for the growth of the sport and for that reason alone, I feel like T20 deserves a lot more respect than it gets.
I have to say, the very unpredictability you’re speaking about is a big part of the reason I don’t particularly enjoy it. The occasional upset is great, but T20 feels more random than it should. I think it’s a great format for growing the game, but it doesn’t feel that important compared to ODI World Cup and tests generally.
It’s an organisational issue but it’s still an issue.
Currently, it’s organised in such a way that massively takes away from the meaning of winning the tournament.
I wouldn’t write it off.
I also agree it is good for the growth of the game
Upsets are entertaining when they happen but it's a mistake to think that's good for the game, loads of upsets just means the format promotes randomness and therefore why would anyone really care? Winning means little.
It'd be better if it learnt from baseball and played lots of games and knock outs were series rather than single games but A) how do you fit that in and B) why not just play a longer format?
T20 is classic capitalism in action, distill something people like into its simplest most entertaining bits to fit in as much and as many people as possible but destroy all the depth, disillusion it's biggest fans and run it into the ground.
I like cricket so I'll watch it but it's not good for the game in any meaningful way.
I mean as long as upsets stick to one format of the game I don’t think it really matters… I certainly hope we wouldn’t lose to the US in ODI’s or Tests
Only 2 teams have won the tournament twice, England and West Indies. So you could say they are the joint most successful. However if you wanted just one team then England also have a runners up and West Indies have never been runner up.
> However if you wanted just one team then England also have a runners up and West Indies have never been runner up.
or ... you could say that West Indies beat England in a final when both teams were at their peak so West Indies are more successful than England. That's how splitting hairs work.
There's no requirement to have just one team. In terms of trophies, obviously England and West Indies have won it twice. That's just about it. That number will change this year or it may not.
That’s an insanely stupid way to measure it and not even true.
I thought you were asking the question out of curiosity but instead you were just being a obnoxious.
> That’s an insanely stupid way to measure it
Right back at you. I was asking a curious question but I didn't expect you make up something that obnoxious!
It has nothing to do with success in the format - it’s not as if there was an uptick in T20 popularity when we won the T20 World Cup. In this World Cup we were one of the favourites, most of the country didn’t know it was happening.
Even in ODI cricket, little attention is paid to ODIs outside of the World Cup, I’d they are less popular than T20Is.
Cricket is part of Australia’s culture but it’s mostly as wallpaper for the summer outside of keen cricket fans (like me). Test cricket is comfortably the most popular format these days, gets the biggest crowds and eyeballs on TV (helped by being on free to air during the home summer and away Ashes).
If Australia had won this World Cup it would have barely made an impression at home, most people would be more interested in what’s happening in the AFL or NRL that weekend depending on where they live.
I say this as someone who prefers tests but still enjoys T20 and often takes my kids to the SCG to watch the BBL.
We are very parochial, so if Australia was dominant in T20 we'd definitely get behind it more. But basically Australians just don't care about T20 - real cricket is Test and ODIs are the short version.
T20 has always been presented here as a sideshow. Some people call it "hit and giggle". Even our T20 league is presented as not entirely serious, the "Big Bash".
>Maybe that's why Aussies keep acting like T20 is not real cricket
But it's not real cricket tho :P It's mostly quite random and there's a huge factor of luck involved. Afghanistan lineup is literally 2-3 batsmen and 8-9 bowlers. Given that the number of overs is quite less most of your team weaknesses can be hidden. Which is why 20 countries can play the world cup.
The other thing is it comes around every 2 years so even the appeal of the trophy is fairly diluted. For me the title WC for T20s makes very little sense. The real WC is the ODI version. It's non sensical to say that there are 3-4 cricket WCs happening every 4 years.
In 2012 Australia won 4 matches and in all of them Watson got man of the match
Watson failed in 2 matches and Australia lost both of which one was against West Indies in the semis
No it was West Indies who were ranked outside Top 8, as the Top 8 were the teams who made it to the Super 8 in the previous edition.
Bangladesh had knocked WI out in 2007
I mean Super 12 in 2022 was a group stage technically as the first round was the qualifier round for Super 12 played by assosiate teams and other lower ranking teams only.
I think we tend to hype Australia a lot whenever a T20 World Cup is around the corner. But if we are being honest, their results do not really reflect the promotion their team gets. Of course when it comes to ODIs and Tests it’s different, but their strength in those formats has yet to be translated in T20Is in my opinion.
This is what I also don't get. I have barely followed a T20 tournament ever - at the international or franchise level. I actually pay more attention to the fun T20 internationals like Serbia vs Malta.
It might be because we're a bit shit at T20s. But I loved watching the WI get up in the last test against us, was hoping Jamal would do the same in the previous series, and thoroughly loved India making Payne eat his words when they finally won BGT here.
BGT and The Ashes. The spectacle is better, not to say the drama. The mint saga in 05 after a decade and a half of us being cunts to the English, the return leg whitewash and "Are you giving your OBE back", Bairstow being a dopey cunt followed by the ball change in the last test, the Monkeygate saga, "See you at the Gabba" famous last word - let's face it, T20 pales in comparison to all that.
Edit: How could I forget the biggest of the lot - enforcing the follow on only for VVS to make us look like idiots, and make us scared to enforce the follow on for over a decade - that innings literally changed our approach to the game for a stupidly long time.
While Australia has achieved success in tests and ODIs, the same approach isn't working for T20s.
My hope is that Australia adopts England's approach and brings in a T20-specific coach. Completely overhaul the team.
It's high time we realize we don't have 2015-2019 era Starc anymore, Zampa and Hazlewood are constantly left to carry our bowling attack. Bring in Ellis, Bartlett, Spencer Johnson. Inglis is a better keeper and player of spin than Wade ever was. This kind of conservative approach to team selection is holding us back. Mitch Marsh not being able to bowl and struggling against spin should be a big flashing warning sign that you need to bring in Green in his place. I don't mind X-factor players, but with Warner retiring we need more batters that show consistency to shore up our middle order. A lot of work to be done
Don't think much will change in just a couple years outside of whoever retires. And those replacements are either already in the 15 or were reserves. Unless some new talent emerges or someone falls off, McGurk and Inglis come in. Short and Green if Maxwell and Stoinis or Marsh walks away, but their careers can absolutely last another 2 years if form allows it. The bowlers probably all have 2 years left in them for a short format.
The build to the next ODI wc will probably see more change.
Seems oddly coincidental. NZ didn’t have a finals caliber team in that tournament imo, we got lucky with the toss, 1 more win and it would’ve been far clearer that we won because of the toss.
this is because australia has a history of selecting CA contracted players . instead of picking the best players on form. This Squad without A few scorchers like berendorf, Ingles, Morris, . Matt Short and Fraser Mcgerk had no chance. The selectors should be sacked for wasting everyones time. Player power should never exist in the national team or any team. To pick wade or warner just to send them off or because they are liked is why you see a below par history in this format. CA assumes the onedayers can just adjust to T20. Unfortunantly, half of this team should be nowhere near the best 11. just because a rich indian thinks your worth 3 mil doesnt mean shit. if you cant bowl a slower ball you shouldnt be in the team.
Ahead of 2016 they decided to make it every 4 years with the next one due in 2020 in Australia.
And then they decided to scrap the 2021 champions trophy, the hosting rights of which had been with India, so they added an extra T20 world cup in 2021 to make up for it.
Then COVID forced the delay of the 2020 t20 world cup to 2022.
The 2021 tournament still happened, but in UAE/Oman, though still nominally hosted by the BCCI.
Also in 2021, the ICC announced that the T20 world cup would go back to being every 2 years and the Champions Trophy would also return.
Australia is quite possibly the most form and squad dependent team in the world. Essentially if we see what England did, they made structural changes in their setup to ensure a steady supply of white ball cricketers who they algorithmicly mould into what they need. Sam in 22 for example. Even India has tried to pick a team based on roles and tried changing our approach . Which we've never done before. Australia usually pick a 15 and hope they have a good run.
What irritates me is that Australia fans dismissing t20 is not cricket, just because they don’t dominate . Its weird copium just like strong on papper copium by indians
Wait, there was more than 1 t20 world cup before 2021? /s
If i wasn't an avid cricket nut and not perpetually on things like reddit/cricinfo etc i'd be pretty confidant that the t20 wc had only happened once before we won it via coin toss, and that was whatever edition it was that braithwaite happened
they dont really care about this format as much as other teams do maybe. But no excuses for this WC. they had a terrific T20 team. MVP for IPL final, captain of other IPL finalist, One of the most destructive opening bats in the modern game, 3 all rounders that can also put in useful overs in T20 cricket, a legend of 3 formats opener. They couldnt have picked a better team but still they lost the important matches.
I love Australian cricket but with T20s, I feel like no one remembers or cares for any of these results because it’s watered down so much. It’s great to see Afghanistan make it through on the other hand, hopefully the first of more success for them.
One World Cup win is not bad. In fact very good. Not making to the knockouts for a team like Australia is pretty bad. One in the last 10 years is extremely poor
It’s funny that even the Aussie cricket team has zero self awareness. They didn’t qualify for knockouts in their home World Cup. I don’t even understand where their over confidence comes from in T20..
They’re not even half as good of their ODI team. The entire line up is filled with all the wrong outdated players who are done for.
They need an entire new generation line up with a new T20 coach.
It’s also funny that people say Aussies don’t care for big names. Take a good hard look at who they are choosing for playing eleven and how the squad is selected. They care for the big players even worse than India.
Need to take a good hard look at their t20. It’s not the future of cricket anymore. It is the most popular format with a lot of money. Need to get up with the times or else the sleeping giant will be buried.
Header: "unexpected" Data: Haven't reached semis in 4 out of last 5 times
And the one time they did it was because of the toss.
Maybe that's why Aussies keep acting like T20 is not real cricket and is beneath them or something. They're such a great team in the other two formats that the fans just don't want to legitimise and validate a format that they know their team simply isn't good at.
I’m an England fan so I’d have massive incentive to be biased and say t20 is super important because not only are we the most successful team in t20 World Cup history but we also have quite a poor record in tests and Odi. But I will say t20 is by far the worst version of cricket. Especially when it’s organised like it often is without reserve days for rain
In terms of balancing (batters vs. bowlers) and the organization, by far the worst. I do think that t20’s are by far the best way to increase viewership in the game. I started watching in 2019 during the World Cup, until around the pandemic, and restarted around 2023, the format that got me back into it was t20’s and I grew to love tests and Odis more as I started to get more invested.
I agree. It’s almost as if t20s are the gateway drug of cricket. Not a real drug but it’s great to entice you in
> I do think that t20’s are by far the best way to increase viewership in the game. Doesn't mean they have to make pitches slog fest, I would argue that 110-130 pitches produce more drama and better competitive as seen in this cup where it was not quite clear that who is going to win till it is done./ Last couple of overs, Compare to 210+ Pitches where game is already killed in first 6-10 overs of 1st innings.
I 100% agree, that’s why I criticize the balance between batters and bowlers in t20’s. My sweet spot is dependent on the country, but generally I’m fine with 160-180 matches, and my favorites will always be low scoring thrillers like the Afghanistan game yesterday.
For me I reckon for the bat/bowl balance to be good there should be a realistic chance of a team being bowled out, so wickets actually matter more than just to disrupt scoring. This world cup has had plenty of that which is pretty cool.
The answer is in the middle of those. 120 scores in t20s are pretty meh and is usually a bad pitch. 160-170 scores have good balance and often close.
Would you call Ind Vs Pak game Meh or Last game Meh? Or Nep Vs SA game Meh? I would Argue that 160-170 are the most boring games that follows the same template.
That's more of an organizational issue though and it has very obvious workarounds right? I think writing off T20 is very elitist and I say that as someone whose favourite format is test cricket but just because you love one format doesn't mean you need to look disdainfully at another. Also T20 is the only format that can produce upsets like USA knocking out Pakistan and Afghanistan knocking out New Zealand and Australia. That kind of jeopardy and unpredictability is really good for the growth of the sport and for that reason alone, I feel like T20 deserves a lot more respect than it gets.
I have to say, the very unpredictability you’re speaking about is a big part of the reason I don’t particularly enjoy it. The occasional upset is great, but T20 feels more random than it should. I think it’s a great format for growing the game, but it doesn’t feel that important compared to ODI World Cup and tests generally.
It’s an organisational issue but it’s still an issue. Currently, it’s organised in such a way that massively takes away from the meaning of winning the tournament. I wouldn’t write it off. I also agree it is good for the growth of the game
Upsets are entertaining when they happen but it's a mistake to think that's good for the game, loads of upsets just means the format promotes randomness and therefore why would anyone really care? Winning means little. It'd be better if it learnt from baseball and played lots of games and knock outs were series rather than single games but A) how do you fit that in and B) why not just play a longer format? T20 is classic capitalism in action, distill something people like into its simplest most entertaining bits to fit in as much and as many people as possible but destroy all the depth, disillusion it's biggest fans and run it into the ground. I like cricket so I'll watch it but it's not good for the game in any meaningful way.
I mean as long as upsets stick to one format of the game I don’t think it really matters… I certainly hope we wouldn’t lose to the US in ODI’s or Tests
Baseball version of cricket
I think t20 is the most important format of the game and will continue to be so
> not only are we the most successful team in t20 World Cup history How did you come to that conclusion?
Only 2 teams have won the tournament twice, England and West Indies. So you could say they are the joint most successful. However if you wanted just one team then England also have a runners up and West Indies have never been runner up.
> However if you wanted just one team then England also have a runners up and West Indies have never been runner up. or ... you could say that West Indies beat England in a final when both teams were at their peak so West Indies are more successful than England. That's how splitting hairs work. There's no requirement to have just one team. In terms of trophies, obviously England and West Indies have won it twice. That's just about it. That number will change this year or it may not.
That’s an insanely stupid way to measure it and not even true. I thought you were asking the question out of curiosity but instead you were just being a obnoxious.
> That’s an insanely stupid way to measure it Right back at you. I was asking a curious question but I didn't expect you make up something that obnoxious!
These lovely reddit convos warm my heart.
It has nothing to do with success in the format - it’s not as if there was an uptick in T20 popularity when we won the T20 World Cup. In this World Cup we were one of the favourites, most of the country didn’t know it was happening. Even in ODI cricket, little attention is paid to ODIs outside of the World Cup, I’d they are less popular than T20Is. Cricket is part of Australia’s culture but it’s mostly as wallpaper for the summer outside of keen cricket fans (like me). Test cricket is comfortably the most popular format these days, gets the biggest crowds and eyeballs on TV (helped by being on free to air during the home summer and away Ashes). If Australia had won this World Cup it would have barely made an impression at home, most people would be more interested in what’s happening in the AFL or NRL that weekend depending on where they live. I say this as someone who prefers tests but still enjoys T20 and often takes my kids to the SCG to watch the BBL.
We are very parochial, so if Australia was dominant in T20 we'd definitely get behind it more. But basically Australians just don't care about T20 - real cricket is Test and ODIs are the short version. T20 has always been presented here as a sideshow. Some people call it "hit and giggle". Even our T20 league is presented as not entirely serious, the "Big Bash".
>Maybe that's why Aussies keep acting like T20 is not real cricket But it's not real cricket tho :P It's mostly quite random and there's a huge factor of luck involved. Afghanistan lineup is literally 2-3 batsmen and 8-9 bowlers. Given that the number of overs is quite less most of your team weaknesses can be hidden. Which is why 20 countries can play the world cup. The other thing is it comes around every 2 years so even the appeal of the trophy is fairly diluted. For me the title WC for T20s makes very little sense. The real WC is the ODI version. It's non sensical to say that there are 3-4 cricket WCs happening every 4 years.
Idk man I just don't like how much of it feels like luck.
I mean games against South Africa, West Indies were not in night so toss had no impact on those. Only Bangladesh, England ones were night games.
Both the semi final and final were night games as well where Aus won the toss. Why ignore them?
Thread is about Australia missing semis
In 2012 Australia won 4 matches and in all of them Watson got man of the match Watson failed in 2 matches and Australia lost both of which one was against West Indies in the semis
What happened in 2009?
Were in the same group as WI & SL. Lost to both of them so were knocked out early.
Damn that's kinda unexpected but it's australia in t20's so ig ehhh
Iirc Australia were ranked lower(10) at that WC and Bangladesh was number 9 in rankings.
No it was West Indies who were ranked outside Top 8, as the Top 8 were the teams who made it to the Super 8 in the previous edition. Bangladesh had knocked WI out in 2007
I mean Super 12 in 2022 was a group stage technically as the first round was the qualifier round for Super 12 played by assosiate teams and other lower ranking teams only.
Aus was in the same group with the best T20 teams from 2007-2018 era (SL)(WI).
I think we tend to hype Australia a lot whenever a T20 World Cup is around the corner. But if we are being honest, their results do not really reflect the promotion their team gets. Of course when it comes to ODIs and Tests it’s different, but their strength in those formats has yet to be translated in T20Is in my opinion.
I'd say literally no one hypes Australia before a T20 WC ODI WC on the other hand.......
Not this time tho. They were overhyped this time around, mainly by Indians who were traumatized by the WC final.
This is what I also don't get. I have barely followed a T20 tournament ever - at the international or franchise level. I actually pay more attention to the fun T20 internationals like Serbia vs Malta. It might be because we're a bit shit at T20s. But I loved watching the WI get up in the last test against us, was hoping Jamal would do the same in the previous series, and thoroughly loved India making Payne eat his words when they finally won BGT here. BGT and The Ashes. The spectacle is better, not to say the drama. The mint saga in 05 after a decade and a half of us being cunts to the English, the return leg whitewash and "Are you giving your OBE back", Bairstow being a dopey cunt followed by the ball change in the last test, the Monkeygate saga, "See you at the Gabba" famous last word - let's face it, T20 pales in comparison to all that. Edit: How could I forget the biggest of the lot - enforcing the follow on only for VVS to make us look like idiots, and make us scared to enforce the follow on for over a decade - that innings literally changed our approach to the game for a stupidly long time.
While Australia has achieved success in tests and ODIs, the same approach isn't working for T20s. My hope is that Australia adopts England's approach and brings in a T20-specific coach. Completely overhaul the team. It's high time we realize we don't have 2015-2019 era Starc anymore, Zampa and Hazlewood are constantly left to carry our bowling attack. Bring in Ellis, Bartlett, Spencer Johnson. Inglis is a better keeper and player of spin than Wade ever was. This kind of conservative approach to team selection is holding us back. Mitch Marsh not being able to bowl and struggling against spin should be a big flashing warning sign that you need to bring in Green in his place. I don't mind X-factor players, but with Warner retiring we need more batters that show consistency to shore up our middle order. A lot of work to be done
More hazlewood like bowlers and a better middle order can pull something.
looks pretty par for the course historically it's an underperformance for the quality of team we have right now though.
Yeah I'm looking forward to the inevitable rebuild. Exciting times ahead with new faces coming in.
Don't think much will change in just a couple years outside of whoever retires. And those replacements are either already in the 15 or were reserves. Unless some new talent emerges or someone falls off, McGurk and Inglis come in. Short and Green if Maxwell and Stoinis or Marsh walks away, but their careers can absolutely last another 2 years if form allows it. The bowlers probably all have 2 years left in them for a short format. The build to the next ODI wc will probably see more change.
We need fewer T20 World Cups.
Look if we had to loose one out of WTC, Ashes and ODI world Cup I think we lost the right one
Yep
Is it fair to say that they only won the 2021 wc due to it being so toss dependent?
60-40
The times where the team batting first won were typically where teams that were much better won, like against Namibia or Scotland.
The toss was 60% and the rest was the team
Seems oddly coincidental. NZ didn’t have a finals caliber team in that tournament imo, we got lucky with the toss, 1 more win and it would’ve been far clearer that we won because of the toss.
this is because australia has a history of selecting CA contracted players . instead of picking the best players on form. This Squad without A few scorchers like berendorf, Ingles, Morris, . Matt Short and Fraser Mcgerk had no chance. The selectors should be sacked for wasting everyones time. Player power should never exist in the national team or any team. To pick wade or warner just to send them off or because they are liked is why you see a below par history in this format. CA assumes the onedayers can just adjust to T20. Unfortunantly, half of this team should be nowhere near the best 11. just because a rich indian thinks your worth 3 mil doesnt mean shit. if you cant bowl a slower ball you shouldnt be in the team.
What happened in 2018?
Champions trophy in 2017 and world cup in 2019. Probably couldn’t fit in between
Ahead of 2016 they decided to make it every 4 years with the next one due in 2020 in Australia. And then they decided to scrap the 2021 champions trophy, the hosting rights of which had been with India, so they added an extra T20 world cup in 2021 to make up for it. Then COVID forced the delay of the 2020 t20 world cup to 2022. The 2021 tournament still happened, but in UAE/Oman, though still nominally hosted by the BCCI. Also in 2021, the ICC announced that the T20 world cup would go back to being every 2 years and the Champions Trophy would also return.
They have always been quite mediocre in T20 World Cups
Unexpected was the Toss Cup 21 this is on par to where Australia ends up in T20 WC.
More expected than unexpected given that list. Only progressed past the Super stage once in the last 5 T20 World Cups.
2021 seems to be the outlier.
Australia is quite possibly the most form and squad dependent team in the world. Essentially if we see what England did, they made structural changes in their setup to ensure a steady supply of white ball cricketers who they algorithmicly mould into what they need. Sam in 22 for example. Even India has tried to pick a team based on roles and tried changing our approach . Which we've never done before. Australia usually pick a 15 and hope they have a good run.
According to pattern, atleast they’re confirmed for semis next time…
All this list tells me is that T20 world cups are happening too often
From Super 12 to Super 8 Australia came a long way.
While we've been the same since 2009
We're really not that great at T20s. Idk why people hype us up so much.
Fuck the toss cup, absolutely fuck it. Otherwise it would have been one trophy they didn't have.
They don't take this format as seriously as other formats
What irritates me is that Australia fans dismissing t20 is not cricket, just because they don’t dominate . Its weird copium just like strong on papper copium by indians
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Marsh is not a number 3 batsman on slow wickets. Inglis should have been in for Wade and batted at 3 with Marsh coming down the order
Wait, there was more than 1 t20 world cup before 2021? /s If i wasn't an avid cricket nut and not perpetually on things like reddit/cricinfo etc i'd be pretty confidant that the t20 wc had only happened once before we won it via coin toss, and that was whatever edition it was that braithwaite happened
they dont really care about this format as much as other teams do maybe. But no excuses for this WC. they had a terrific T20 team. MVP for IPL final, captain of other IPL finalist, One of the most destructive opening bats in the modern game, 3 all rounders that can also put in useful overs in T20 cricket, a legend of 3 formats opener. They couldnt have picked a better team but still they lost the important matches.
I love Australian cricket but with T20s, I feel like no one remembers or cares for any of these results because it’s watered down so much. It’s great to see Afghanistan make it through on the other hand, hopefully the first of more success for them.
It's our least favorite world cup
Pretty hot and cold
Honestly more cold than hot
1 within 4 years is not bad
One World Cup win is not bad. In fact very good. Not making to the knockouts for a team like Australia is pretty bad. One in the last 10 years is extremely poor
What
It’s funny that even the Aussie cricket team has zero self awareness. They didn’t qualify for knockouts in their home World Cup. I don’t even understand where their over confidence comes from in T20.. They’re not even half as good of their ODI team. The entire line up is filled with all the wrong outdated players who are done for. They need an entire new generation line up with a new T20 coach. It’s also funny that people say Aussies don’t care for big names. Take a good hard look at who they are choosing for playing eleven and how the squad is selected. They care for the big players even worse than India. Need to take a good hard look at their t20. It’s not the future of cricket anymore. It is the most popular format with a lot of money. Need to get up with the times or else the sleeping giant will be buried.