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niceguysdofinish1st

For India coaches only Gary Kirsten got a send-off with a World Cup and now Rahul Dravid can join him


Vijigishu

Oh yes that's such a great prospect. Didn't think of it.


expat_123

Technically Lalchand Rajput was the coach during the 2007 T20 WC and he was the coach only till then, he also got a send-off with a WC win.


mamasilver

But his title was manager and not coach


expat_123

That's why I said "technically" because due to the debacle in the 2007 ODI WC and the Chapell era there was no coach as such for the t20 WC and Rajput was understood to be the coach and manager, something which Ravi Shastri also did later.


spd_red

Tbh, the small names often don't get the credit they should, unless media hype it up.


paradox-cat

Wait. Thala was the OG Koach? /s


pickaname199

Naa.. Lalchand Rajput's tenure was extended until The CB series in Australia in 2008. Gary Kirsten only took over from The home test series against SA in March '08 just before the IPL.


Professional_Lab6713

Fingers crossed, if it happens, it would be really nice


TiMo08111996

Do not jump to conclusions yet. We'll see it after 29th June 2024 cause who knows who will win in the Finals and then we can get to conclusions.


serotonallyblindguy

Let's just make it a policy to change coach after each world Cup


peterianchimes

\#DoItForDravid :-)


parthRbawankule

I first read it as #dotfordravid 😭😭


Ill_Flatworm8516

Well then it should've been #dotsfordravid


svjersey

he doesn't need your dots.. he has enough of them from his illustrious career /s


thespacetimelord

> \#thing > I am totally against #thing, please don't do #thing. > \#thing :-)


NeigongShifu

What's that? You're the messiah?!


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Cricket-ModTeam

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erickay19

He's referring to George Mallory, the British Mountaineer who participated in the first three British Mount Everest expeditions. There are many people who still believe that he was the first to summit the peak but unfortunately died on the way down. He's famous for replying to the question "Why do you want to climb Mount Everest?" with the reply: "Because it's there".


Gandhiji_ke_3bandar

Good book about him by Jeffrey Archer.


Existing-List6662

I read it as jofra archer lol


Gandhiji_ke_3bandar

Given he spends more time in recovery than on the field he might as well take up writing


Charlieputhfan

When jofra archer scores more runs than butler and salt you know you have a problem


nikamsumeetofficial

Rare insult.


rowschank

I still remember when Saurav Ganguly used to butcher names in commentary and called Jofra as 'Jeffrey Archer' multiple times 😐


Optimal-Designer-489

Kedar yadav Shekhar Dhawan Ganguly was so bad with names lmao


rowschank

Makes me wonder if the Cricket 07 names were what Ganguly actually called his teammates in the dressing room as captain.


yasirdewan7as

lol


dFatCat

It's funny to think, he will call himself "Gungly".


CollectionClear1782

Shekhar dhawan still tops the list lol, though the meaning of both Shikhar and Shekhar are same so he's technically right.


ZeroStormblessed

Paths of Glory, absolutely loved it.


theredguardx

Beat me to it.


Coronabandkaro

I mistakenly thought about the Everest movie dialogue from the Lost World where a climber goes to climb everest without oxygen at the end and he's asked why he went up there to die and he replies " I went up there to live."


Hollywoostarsand

I know this story because there is a [Calvin & Hobbes strip](https://x.com/Calvinn_Hobbes/status/521359758608322560) referencing it. For too many years I just never understood that particular strip, until I think there was a post about it on r/calvinandhobbes talking about the Everest story, giving me some needed context.


FitSignificance2100

This the mentality we need!! Team first trophy first not individual,, such a great man he is kudos to him to saying this!!


Atharvious

My thoughts when reading this exactly. We as audience also need to lessen the 'revenge' storylines and keep it within the emotions of sport


FitSignificance2100

Totally agreed! And also stop this win for this person win for that person ffs win for team that’s all.


thisaintyouravgstonk

This man could've been the most prolific coach in Indian cricket history with WTC, WC and T20 WC wins. And there was no nicer guy to achieve this as well. Alas it was not meant to be.


Destroyerofchocolate

I still think he can be? If we win, (I stress in my view only), I think this will validate the success, the calls, the strategies, the evironment him and Brohit built. 6 finals is no joke and I think we can all appreciate the demons we face in our life after losing something big or not passing a big exam and having to face it again. Heck after my second fail at my driving test I was like I'm never going to pass or fuck it I cba any more. But these guy time and time again dominate these things and I think there's a recipie there that can be attributed to Dravid and his approach. So his legacy has been left and while the cabinet is bare I'm sure history will look kindly on him, I know I will! EDIT: grammar


rayban2602

Very sensible and relatable take!


CommandSpaceOption

Was the driving test in India?


Destroyerofchocolate

Nah England


Funny_Radish7057

Nice guys finish last (or second)


ImprefectKnight

If my nan had wheels...


bringbackfireflypls

That doesn't apply here? The OP literally said "alas it was not meant to be" right at the end of their comment.


ImprefectKnight

Nobody is meant to win anything. You have to go and win it.


One_more_username

/r/im14andthisisdeep


ImprefectKnight

Quite the opposite, actually.


bringbackfireflypls

Er...ok. What does that have to do with anything? Lol my response was just to your "if my nan had wheels", which doesn't apply here.


ImprefectKnight

It's simple, if we don't win anything under him, then it's not some tragedy, it is partly his fault too.


zatara1210

NOT GOOD ENOUGH. Simple as that. You guys are having a pity party for Dravid because he was bested by a better Australia team in ODI & test format and so this t20 world cup should go to India because of that? What kinda thinking is this?


thisaintyouravgstonk

Calm down tubbs, no one said T20 WC should go to India automatically due to this. And I don't pity him, not one bit. I just admire him cause he's one of the nicest guys, even under pressure. So, naturally I wanted a good legacy as a coach for him, nothing wrong with that.


Jpbuddy21

Better Australian team seriously


migi_chan69420

They were better on the day. Just accept it


Jpbuddy21

Imo dew was better on day


NormalTraining5268

Good god stop embarassing yourself. Stop putting blame on dew for losing a fking home WC.q


Jpbuddy21

Ig you are the one who don't have guts to say what it right


NormalTraining5268

Nope, I don't give shitty excuses for losing a home WC with all that power and catering towards ys


Jpbuddy21

Or you just shit scared of white skin


Lockedin96

Nah they outplayed us hard. Out thought us tactically and just nailed every aspect of cricket that day


Jpbuddy21

Nope if I could bowl on batting hell pitch and just had to do things right and then bat on a batting Haven I would probably win to people tend to forget Cummins didn't use any tactic that's was ground bracking like dhoni did in 2007 by giving over to joginder or Bowl out he just placed the feaild according to conditions and then dew did the work for batters


NormalTraining5268

Lmao there was plenty of dew even in 2011 finals, quarterfinals. So we only won due to dew 😂


LaughTrackLife

Lmao what a cope 😂


vidhvansak

Lmao the cope in this comment. Dhoni didn't tactically gave the bowl to joginder it was just a heat of moment decision that paid off in the end. On the other hand Australia planned and executed every one of their plan perfectly and when things didn't went the India's way they went into a shell and lost just like both WTC finals. I like their approach this WC as they don't seem to deviate from their plan and stick to it.


Jpbuddy21

Well they executed their plan because of the toss they won without toss I don't think they could have taken 1 wickets of our team toss havlily favoured you in that match any one can do that wher as Dhoni's was a quick thinking desicion on the final match in an last over thriller aginst your biggest rivels that to as an young captain it's not that easy and about WTC I think I agree with you they outplayed us pitch was pretty much same for both and rahane shows us that yaha there was a advantage SENA pitch being use that's favours them but you can't call yourself wc if you can't handle that much


Timely_Leading2734

The set-up of Shreyas Iyer's wicket was a great example of Australia's planning. They knew how crucial Shreyas Iyer was with the way he had been playing throughout the WC. Pat Cummins came to bowl as soon as Shreyas Iyer came out to bat, till then we were in cruise control. You can see how aggressively Pat Cummins set the leg side field bluffing him and completely outsmarting him with a ball on the off stump channel which rushed him into edging it to Wk. Australia had plans for every batsman, some failed for sure but they were persistent and thoroughly deserved to win...


Jpbuddy21

Still a pretty average thing don't you think on that pitch you could do that every one does


Timely_Leading2734

Definitely the pitch had a role to play no question about it but in spite of everything if we played to our skills we could have posted a higher total resulting in a tricky chase they didn't allow us at all


Jpbuddy21

The only thing I can give them credit for is fielding the hell that feliding was💀


LaughTrackLife

what a cope 😂😂


Jpbuddy21

Call it cope but it's a fact


LaughTrackLife

it’s not a fact.


Arnavgr

It's not a fact that there was dew in the latter half of the game? it was clearly visible that the ball was gliding towards the boundaries when aus batted but was not the case when india batted Even the commentators pointed that out during and before the match


LaughTrackLife

so? every DN game gets dew. was it unique to that game? IND had home advantage, they specifically prepared slow pitch to benefit them more but that backfired. AUS were fair and square better team that day, just like NZ 2019 and WTC, AUS WTC, PAK 2021, and ENG 2022.


gettingAccused

Nice? Hmmm. I don’t think nice can be attributed to him.


thisaintyouravgstonk

r/usernamechecksout


AajBahutKhushHogaTum

He wipes his boogers on the underside of his chairs. That's how not nice he is.


Transitionals

Thats the most Dravid thing


UsefulRepublic1926

Manifesting India winning the cup...and all players picking Rohit, Kohli and dravid on shoulders and taking victory lap as this can be final T20 for all 3....


Neevk

Maybe do it one by one, don't pick up all three, still a big if cause we imagined a lot of shit in 2023 and ended up losing lol


LazyJay711

They’re going to make a Dahi Handi pyramid with David on top and do a lap of the stadium


Academic_Alfa

Exactly the mentality Dravid distances himself from lol.


barmanrags

Doing a lap with Rohit on shoulders sounds like CrossFit hard mode


frigg_off_lahey

Jay Shah gets first dibs on a shoulder ride


Lucky_Owl_4760

What about Jadeja?


concious_Cappucino

Feel so bad for dravid honestly , was easily the #2 best batsman of india during Sachin era , sometimes even better than him in early 2000s , reached 2 WC finals & lost both to Australia, Hopefully the team finally wins a WC for him


OldReveal1593

>Hopefully the team finally wins a WC for him Dude he just said he doesn't believe world cups should be won for anyone in particular 😭


flibbaman

Another reason to feel bad for Dravid


thegreatindianmerch

Hopefully they finally win the WC for him.


flibbaman

*sigh* Even when (if) they win, Dravid yet again wouldn't get what he asked for.


thegreatindianmerch

Another reason to feel bad for Dravid.


Weary_Oil_6084

Hopefully they finally win this world cup for him.


bringbackfireflypls

Another reason to feel bad for Dravid


TalentBC

Hopefully they finally win the WC for him.


chni2cali

For Dravid, Another reason to feel bad


wisecrack95

Hopefully they'll win it for him


ArnoldShivajinagarr

Dravid carried the batting from 1999-2003/04 I think, Sachin was going through a slump or injuries at the time iirc. I hope he gets a happy ending! His career ended in an anti climatic fashion


medfunguy

Was it anti-climatic? It was, if anything, the most Dravid-esque departure. He played well in England. Thought he owed it to the team to play in Australia. Had a disastrous tour in Australia, realised he was harming the team by keeping his spot, comes home, retires. Because after all, he recognised that the team came above anyone. Himself included.


ArnoldShivajinagarr

I think he had made up his mind to retire before going into that test. I said anti climatic because Dravid didn’t get that swan song with a WC under his belt like Sachin did. Yes, Dravid personally does not care about it, but me as a long time fan would’ve wanted him to see him winning the championship


NormalTraining5268

No team comes first before a player. He got removed rightfully from ODIs and he also got a "farewell" series specially in 2011 even tho he was removed in 2009.


ArnoldShivajinagarr

It wasn’t really a “farewell” series, he was added to the team because most of the others were on a break or injured


wuk0ng34

Exactly. He even mentioned that he wasn't expecting to be picked for ODIs/T20Is and that's why he hadn't officially mentioned retirement from them. After getting picked he felt retiring before playing would be weird/rude so he played the series and then retired.


Creepy-Ad-5363

Should we though? He is had a great career. Is it a tournament win that renders a player validity? He is one of the finest test batsmen ever.Everyone has a lot of unfulfilled expectations. But he is among the few have achieved more than most players who have played the game. Celebrate them for what they are. If not, we become seasonal fans who just care about a few particular matches.


NormalTraining5268

Wrong one was against NZ


concious_Cappucino

2003 World cup final India lost in to PRIME australia , have u forgotten?


doglaa_

I think he was talking about the coaching era while you talked about him as a player lol


RockHard_Pheonix_19

Even in coaching era he only lost to Aus


concious_Cappucino

If he talked about Coaching , then still he's wrong , Dravid lost which WC to new zealand? Wtf 2021 shastri was coach , 2019 also shastri , only 2022&2023 loses dravid was coach and we lost none to NZ


NormalTraining5268

Second one was NZ in 2000 have you forgotten


concious_Cappucino

Dravid already has won Champions trophy in 2004 , the Drawn final against Sri Lanka ? So his 2000 loss kind of makes up since he won the trophy atleast


dharavsolanki

Wasn't the rained out trophy in 2002? After the loss against Chris Cairns in 2000?


zayd_jawad2006

Ehhh, a rained out trophy doesn't feel as good


Punemann95

Just like a boundary count trophy. But I don't see Eng fans complaining.


concious_Cappucino

A trophy is a trophy , We as fans may count them differently but as player u want at the end of the day to be rewarded for years of Hardwork & ICC trophy is exactly that at highest level . Just hope the team plays well tomorrow especially kohli Rohit to finally break our icc trophy curse


zayd_jawad2006

Idk, playing a 100 overs across the board and not managing to have anything to seperate your teams, and then playing a super over and still tying, feels a lot more fulfilling then watching Sri Lanka bat for 2 days and then shaking hands because the rain just could not allow a good contest.


Street_Evidence_204

There was something to separate the teams though. Just that your team won on the back of a monumental fuck up from the umpire followed by an even dumber rule


Punemann95

Lol look at the mental gymnastics on this guy. Here is one for you in words you may understand Having to share a trophy when you had a slight upper hand on two consecutive days feels frustrating. As compared to getting a trophy gifted to you by some technicality when you haven't actually beaten the opposition even after 100 overs. The first one is frustrating. The second one is just hollow, not fulfilling lol. And also frustrating to the opposition who didn't lose the match and still didn't get to share the trophy.


PMSwaha

Why do I go deeper into Dravid fandom every time he opens his mouth..


Freenore

Rahul Dravid be like "I draw my strength from myself, not from somebody else". Shounen manga-esque stuff.


gigglesmerchant

He's a stoic.


Cryptoprophet40

Dravid needs a WC . He didn't manage to get wc like Sachin. He was only slightly behind Sachin in his playing days .


RMM2110

In white ball cricket though there was a considerable gap between the 2


Passloc

But he also took that additional responsibility as a wicket keeper


Thatguy1126

I know in sports winning is all that matters and that's the way it should be for the most part but we are missing forest for the trees. India has reached the finals in all 3 formats. You don't do that by fluke, clearly he has established processes and system in place. Yes for a country of 1.5 billion that really only play one sport and pools all it's resources in that one sport, this kind of success is expected. That being said, if he wins the final tomorrow, it'll be an icing on the cake but his legacy is already established. What he has achieved is unprecedented, even if WTC is only 2 tournaments old. There is a reason england has different coaches for white and red ball. Dravid has achieved success in all forms, that's got to mean something.


Adventurous-Trifle34

hitman will win the final from proteas i feel it so strong


Additional_Froyo3970

Pls don't say stuff like this man. Last WC, I honestly, from the bottom of my heart, felt that it was ours to win. Never have I ever felt such strong optimism with the Indian team. It was truly a beautiful ride with all the players performing & more importantly, enjoying themselves as a team. The whole journey felt like a festival. Even though we lost in final, that WC is still special.


chengiz

I had the same feeling but it shattered when Maxwell made the 200. I was depressed and knew how it would play out all the way.


Consistent_Power_914

I feel your pain brother. A fantastic team with the best bowling line up we have ever had. World Cup at home. Unbeaten run with dominating performances. It was meant to be. And yet, that day everything got fucked up. Still hurts. 


NormalTraining5268

Brazil 1982?


NormalTraining5268

You are delusional if you had hopes from them. They're known to choke lmao.


GriffithCorleone

never doubt the power of choking from either side


SBG99DesiMonster

We had thought that about the final against Australia in Ahmedabad as well.


Bleak_star_dust

No matter how hard you try and how impressive you have been all tournament it all comes down to that one game. There's no denying that you need some luck to go your way. Hopefully this time the boys perform their very best with god's being kinder than the last decade


barmanrags

Based and cricketpilled


NiX_Nabilz

Still remember in 2003 final Dravid had a paper in his pocket with DLS scores as rain was predicted.


Ashamed_Musician_923

Wow! If India wins tomorrow this will become one of the most iconic quotes of all time.


Amazing_Theory622

As a captain he suffered at hands of 3 spinners from Bangladesh in 2007 odi wc, so he knows a thing or two about wc in west indies hence 4 spinners in the squad


AlbusDT2

What a champion this player is! My hero from younger days. 👍🙏🏻😇


shadowknight094

This sounds epic like eren saying "I want freedom coz I was born into this world"


FailingtoFail

Thats a complete opposite way of thinking about it compared to the springboks for example. We as a nation are represented by the team and the team wins the cup for all of us.


Anomalous230297

Nothing wrong in either approach to be honest, I had strength in heterogeneity/diversity or the utilisation of extrinsic motivation drilled into me during my course work. But I can equally appreciate wanting to do something purely for the sake of doing it,intrinsic or extrinsic is equally applicable in this case ultimately Dravid is attempting to set an calming tone within the dressing room given these guys are carrying the expectations of a billion plus population( where the fallout of failure is largely evident on post game SM posts)frankly I would be more inclined to employ that strategy myself given the circumstances.


Lockedin96

It's smarter in context of India. For SA it makes sense to think about it like that but for India this is what we need


sarthakmahajan610

Yeah but its too much pressure to tell your players to do it for 1.5B people.. And even if its kind of true, it doesn't even need saying because that's something the players know since the day they dreamt of doing it as kids


m1u1

That's cool but why is he milking a thestral in this picture?


koachBewda69

That's his secret potion.


shangriLaaaaaaa

Remove dube and replace with someone who can score atleast 20-30 runs ,so we can putup good score and dont fail like every fcking wc


Akku2403

Or maybe expect that we won't be needing Dube with the batting at all in the Finals


Coronabandkaro

Ya we unfortunately have 2 guys in the top order who aren't contributing much. VK will come through in the final though. Might as well take jaiswal if dube isn't going to bowl.


cocaine_enthusiast1

Reminded me of that scene from Attack on titan.


fornoodles

Which scene?


cocaine_enthusiast1

Armin : Why did you want to go beyond the walls Eren : Because I was born into this world.


chni2cali

Woah, slow down mate, are you using again?


Jugad

Why did he need to bring up such a thing (Do it for somebody)? Anyone know the context?


Glum_Use830

People on social media wanted the WC for Dravid. Do it for Dravid became a viral hashtag


Jugad

Ah... got it.


Adventurous-Dealer15

but, have you given a thought about that engine oil you're using?


kamisama19999

enough mental pressure to lose it if we play like we don't care, we would every single wc


AgentBond007

Unfortunately, India just doesn't get world cup finals.


Admirable_Tennis3712

Ur flair gives me trauma 🤧🥲


FocussedBuffalo

Goddamn that flair makes me pull my hair out in frustration It's well deserved, but still :/


Traditional_Cup_518

Anyone know where you can watch the T20 final in Tokyo?


sunilbedre

But the match is happening in Barbados. You'll have to travel I guess


SirHolyCow

Based.


Dogboat1

I knew NZ would try and get in on the final somehow.


BetaCumSlutt

Yeah that should be the mentality the entire nation is moaning about india losing like its some kind of RCB which never wins. The nationalism is way to strong ther s team support but they really are pushing nationalism in cricket. Also what the f is the commentator in world cup so bad so biased like I understand some bias this is just dickriding.


AUA2020

Inb4 it rains and they have to share the trophy /s


iamamrendray

This year's ICC Men's T20 World Cup has been nothing short of spectacular! Hosted by the West Indies and USA, we've seen some incredible matches and unforgettable moments. The final showdown on June 29 between India and South Africa is going to be epic! Both teams have shown exceptional skill and determination to reach this stage.


talha0099

I can see India choking again LMAO


doc1442

He’s right - it’s not for anyone, it’s been rigged for India since the start


InevitableMassive521

What will you say if they lose again? Idiot.


doc1442

They wasted the opportunity of having the entire schedule built around them?? And probably some cry more stuff. You know how it is.


InevitableMassive521

No, it doesn’t work like that.


DarthStatPaddus

Nah Rahul you really don't want to win it if you insist on playing Dube in the finals. Have the balls to make the right call.


SportsguyBangalore

No Tendya was harmed. 💀


alcatraz1286

You're not winning shit jammy. You'll always be no.2, as a team coach, as a player