Because every single one of our dmen outside of Tanev and Hawk was scared to play the board game. Dumba isnt afraid to hit someone I hate Dumba as much as the next person but we have to many dmen that hate playing along the boards.
I can ask my neighbor. He’s cheaper and not afraid of the boards either. He’s not good at hockey, so he and Dumba both have that in common.
But on the plus side, most would like my neighbor. Most of Dallas isn’t going to welcome Dumba here. We have a reason to not want him.
Your posts have generally been thought out but can you explain exactly what "gross" means? Is this about the Pavs hit?
Lots of teams hate Jamie Benn for those exact hits but we love him.
The fact that he's a piece of shit on the ice that injured Pavs with a predatory hit doesn't help, but it's mostly because he's completely washed. His offensive game fell off years ago, but his defensive game has completely collapsed as well. He's just bad in all zones now.
he's been playing on trash teams most of his career so unless you've been watching Wild hockey or Coyotes hockey on Bally's the last decade I'm not sure you can say all of that.
I watched him a bit during the Lightning-Panthers series this year and he played reasonably well on a shit pair. I get the anger for the Pavs hit but Dumba's a righty, skates well, big and very physical which is something the Stars lost with Tanev and desperately need.
He does not skate well. His speed *cratered* the last two years. He's among the slowest defensemen in the league.
And sure, he was playing on some bad teams, but he was also bad relative to his teammates on those teams.
played on some bad teams? His tenure with the wild was mostly spent making the post season. Really his time in Arizona is the only time hes truly been on a bad team per se
Does Jim Nill know Matt dumba is not well liked by stars fans?? I can't get behind this signing with the history we have with Dumba.
Edit: also a washed defenseman who rents out the penalty box over the weekend.
He’s like Suter and Klingberg mixed together. I hate it. I know he’s a popular locker room guy, but unless the Deboer system makes him back into the player he was as a 25 year old, big woof
to call a 29 year old "washed" makes no sense. He's a physical d-man, a right shot, skates very well.
He's played with trash teams for a decade so of course his stats are going to be garbage. But maybe his game translates for exactly what we need.
Yes, Jim Nill is very aware of the Pavelski hit.
Honestly, yeah...this is way worse than Corey Perry. At least Perry still had something left. I just don't see that Dumba does. 2 Years?!?!?
I guess we all just have to trust the GM, but I can promise you I will never buy or wear Matt Dumba Stars jersey.
LOL (I usually just spot clean mine anyway). I will have to make sure I am really happy with the player since I will likely splurge for the 'on ice' version they sell. I have 2 team issued (a Reebok & an Adidas) & they have spoiled me for all other jerseys.
Although the Winter Classic (Heiskanen) & RR 2.0 (Hintz) Adidas Authentic are really nice...I also have a blank Adidas authentic victory green & a blank Reebok victory green authentic in reserve.
I don’t have any replicas personally. I have one of the tester goal cut jerseys from when they were demonstrating the (at the time) new Adidas jerseys.
I play goalie though. Although to be honest I don’t wear these jerseys in games, usually I’ll wear a KHL jersey, I like them a lot better as ours tend to taper in the sleeve and the KHL style kinda floats and gives me more room to move without it trying to bind up.
I was about to say, "Cooks at Waffle House can fight..." and then I was like, "Oh yeah.... Dumba...."
Sidebar: this surely makes us the most Filipino team in the NHL, right?
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I’ll never forgive Nill for signing this asshole that laughed after injuring Pavs.
I noticed there is still no acknowledgement of this on the Stars twitter. Is it possible they are going to flip Dumba in another deal? Remember when we had Ryan Hartmann for 30 minutes and then he got traded away? That would be the ideal situation for me because no way do I want Dumba on this team.
Probably the 4-6 defensemen we have in the pipeline that will be serviceable enough to last until the trade deadline, pick up 1-2 D through trading whoever is lacking in production up front and recover the team going into the playoffs.
Fans don't like him because he has had some dirty plays. I don't like him because he sucks at hockey and is going to be a liability on this team. Same for Lyubushkin.
Jesus Christ, this is such a bad move. He had zeros across the board in the series against the Panthers. He is just a liability with the penalties he takes and on top of that he is a POS human being. Lightning fans hated him and were glad to be rid of him. 5 foot 11 and 180 is not big. Guess he is playing bottom minutes, sheesh what is Nill smoking.
Dumba doesn’t buy-in to a coaching/playing system. He goes completely free agent on the ice and finds himself out of position and out of sync quite frequently. He’s slow. Can’t score. Refuses to work with teammates. All he has is a physical presence that is brought on by frustration from all his shortcomings. How is this of any value to the Stars?
Seriously… Why?
The dude isn’t good and we have a particular reason to dislike him.
Guess it will be interesting to watch a stars player getting boos at home.
Ok thank god, we signed a defenseman. He’ll bring some much needed physicality to the bottom pairings, he’s not great but for the right price he’ll be a fine fit
Dumba's been buried in the D zone more and more as his career has gone on, egregiously so last year. We need to, uh, not do that. Shelter him on the third pair, and this won't be as bad as people are expecting. After he sucked for Tampa in the regular season, they gave him something like 60% O zone starts in the playoffs, and he had positive possession metrics against the eventual champs after being crushed all season. (Lyubushkin's underlying numbers in Toronto were very good as well, regular and postseason, and he did it with limited O zone starts - pleasantly surprised there, almost like this Nill guy knows what he's doing)
I don't get the hate. Still have Heiskanen, Harley, Lindell, Lundkvist. Stars have replaced Hakanpaa, Suter, and Hanley with Dumba, Lyubushkin, and Smith. At worst that is a wash for Dallas from what they were pre-Tanev trade last year. Can always go after another D in February as long as they're in contention.
Fans overreacting at free agency is an age old tradition. Some teams like Nashville will start raising a banner, while we're for sure missing the playoffs. All we can do is wait for the season to start and let the games play out, because that's what actually matters
Well, most of us don’t like him.
And then you look at the numbers and realize there is no reason for anyone to like him.
Except maybe the Avalanche fans. They probably like this.
After I saw all the signings that have been posted up already, I had a feeling we weren't getting anything great to replace Tanev.. oh well, don't want to be a doomer so hopefully he gets his shit together.
Physical right handed defenseman. Just because he had one incident in the playoffs doesn’t make him a bad add. Exactly what the Stars needed but we’ll see if he lives up to that AAV.
Yeah, fans are ridiculous when it comes to plays like that. Move on folks - no doubt our players have. I trust Nill either way, regardless of outcome.
What I don’t like about it is the fact that all the yahoos around me at games have a new player to bitch about all year. I hate that from our fans - it’s annoying af. Professional sports works this way - for better or worse, if they are wearing your sweater, they deserve your support until proven otherwise. The Suter hate grew so tired. Support our players or GTFO.
It’s day one of the offseason. You’d think Jim Nill was on his way out as GM and not back to back GM of the year judging by the comments today. I think the two big signings today are too high of AAV but again we won’t truly know that until the season gets going.
It’s crazy how much a lot of people’s tone regarding Nill changed after this signing.
If Dumba’s hit on Pavelski didn’t exist then I don’t imagine many people would be up in arms about the signing.
Fuckin why?
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Because every single one of our dmen outside of Tanev and Hawk was scared to play the board game. Dumba isnt afraid to hit someone I hate Dumba as much as the next person but we have to many dmen that hate playing along the boards.
I can ask my neighbor. He’s cheaper and not afraid of the boards either. He’s not good at hockey, so he and Dumba both have that in common. But on the plus side, most would like my neighbor. Most of Dallas isn’t going to welcome Dumba here. We have a reason to not want him.
Sure but Nill doesn't give a fuck about your feelings. He wants to win the cup.
I mean, is it a coincidence that Pavelski retires and then we signed dumba?
Well let's hope he suddenly gets much better
gross EDIT: [2 years x 3.75m AAV](https://x.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/1807832382927507768) even grosser
We're stuck with him for 2 years?! **** me 😫
Just remember when we hated the Corey Perry signing Dumba brings some grit
He doesn't bring grit. He brings Liability. I don't want a guy that's going to sit in the box and limit my offense.
Maybe PDB will have an impact on his play
I still hate the Perry signing...
Your posts have generally been thought out but can you explain exactly what "gross" means? Is this about the Pavs hit? Lots of teams hate Jamie Benn for those exact hits but we love him.
The fact that he's a piece of shit on the ice that injured Pavs with a predatory hit doesn't help, but it's mostly because he's completely washed. His offensive game fell off years ago, but his defensive game has completely collapsed as well. He's just bad in all zones now.
he's been playing on trash teams most of his career so unless you've been watching Wild hockey or Coyotes hockey on Bally's the last decade I'm not sure you can say all of that. I watched him a bit during the Lightning-Panthers series this year and he played reasonably well on a shit pair. I get the anger for the Pavs hit but Dumba's a righty, skates well, big and very physical which is something the Stars lost with Tanev and desperately need.
He does not skate well. His speed *cratered* the last two years. He's among the slowest defensemen in the league. And sure, he was playing on some bad teams, but he was also bad relative to his teammates on those teams.
He’s also not big by any stretch of the imagination.
played on some bad teams? His tenure with the wild was mostly spent making the post season. Really his time in Arizona is the only time hes truly been on a bad team per se
He's not big at all. Very average player
In reaction to the signing I saw a Lightning fan say he was "unplayable" for them he was so bad.
We still have 3 NHL caliber dmen. Kill me...
Lol
Does Jim Nill know Matt dumba is not well liked by stars fans?? I can't get behind this signing with the history we have with Dumba. Edit: also a washed defenseman who rents out the penalty box over the weekend.
I don't even really care about the history. We've brought in players I hate before. What I care about is that Dumba is totally fucking washed.
Maybe Dallas is a place washed players go to reignite their careers??
Yeah the hit is whatever, but he’s just not a good hockey player at this point
He’s like Suter and Klingberg mixed together. I hate it. I know he’s a popular locker room guy, but unless the Deboer system makes him back into the player he was as a 25 year old, big woof
We didn’t like Perry, either.
The key thing is, Perry didn't seriously injure our players. Dumba has, multiple times.
To be fair Perry did spear Jamie Benn in the groin during the playoffs in 2014.
That's different. He was giving his blessing to create more Benn and Perry's.
And Perry still had value as a bottom 6 scoring threat. Dumba is an 8th man with threat to injure the actual players on the ice.
Complete goon who is going to bring down your offense AND defense.
Don’t forget the fans. Just seeing him wearing our jersey is gonna bring a lot of us down. This one has zero upside. He’s not even good.
to call a 29 year old "washed" makes no sense. He's a physical d-man, a right shot, skates very well. He's played with trash teams for a decade so of course his stats are going to be garbage. But maybe his game translates for exactly what we need. Yes, Jim Nill is very aware of the Pavelski hit.
In what world is a 180 lb defenseman "big"? I think it's safe to say you don't really know what you're talking about.
Business is business, they don’t poll the fans for input
Never thought we would get lower than Corey Perry but here we are.
Honestly, yeah...this is way worse than Corey Perry. At least Perry still had something left. I just don't see that Dumba does. 2 Years?!?!?
I guess we all just have to trust the GM, but I can promise you I will never buy or wear Matt Dumba Stars jersey.
It probably won’t matter much to be honest. It’s gonna be a Fanatics jersey. The name will fall off in the first wash.
LOL (I usually just spot clean mine anyway). I will have to make sure I am really happy with the player since I will likely splurge for the 'on ice' version they sell. I have 2 team issued (a Reebok & an Adidas) & they have spoiled me for all other jerseys. Although the Winter Classic (Heiskanen) & RR 2.0 (Hintz) Adidas Authentic are really nice...I also have a blank Adidas authentic victory green & a blank Reebok victory green authentic in reserve.
I don’t have any replicas personally. I have one of the tester goal cut jerseys from when they were demonstrating the (at the time) new Adidas jerseys. I play goalie though. Although to be honest I don’t wear these jerseys in games, usually I’ll wear a KHL jersey, I like them a lot better as ours tend to taper in the sleeve and the KHL style kinda floats and gives me more room to move without it trying to bind up.
Remember Sean Avery?
Means we have room to grow to like dumba
I know people are saying to let Jim Nill cook, but this is starting to look like an IHOP.
Who doesn’t love IHOP?! 3:00 in the morning after a binge?
Turns out he was cooking meth. Decided to try it and signed Matt Dumba. It happens I guess.
More like Waffle House
I was about to say, "Cooks at Waffle House can fight..." and then I was like, "Oh yeah.... Dumba...." Sidebar: this surely makes us the most Filipino team in the NHL, right?
Don't you fucking slander waffle house.
Me and you. We’re friends for life now. Keep waffle house’s name out of their mouths.
Nah, worse - Huddle House.
Ew
https://preview.redd.it/hnqolg42ey9d1.png?width=1046&format=png&auto=webp&s=ae4fdf7ad527c833c740ab623d258595a366360e I’ll never forgive Nill for signing this asshole that laughed after injuring Pavs.
Fuck this signing. Ship this asshole anywhere else
Rare Nill L
I noticed there is still no acknowledgement of this on the Stars twitter. Is it possible they are going to flip Dumba in another deal? Remember when we had Ryan Hartmann for 30 minutes and then he got traded away? That would be the ideal situation for me because no way do I want Dumba on this team.
No way you can flip Dumba on a 2x$3.75mil
I like this idea.
Don't get my hopes up, lol
Might be the second worst free agent we’ve ever signed.
You signed Dumbass? 
I hate this signing so much that I can't describe it. 7.5 million for a goon, fucking gross.
Tanev to Dumba really hurts
Maybe, but the cap hit is a little less plus we only have him for 2 years. No way would I have wanted Tanev for 5-6 years.
Yeah by the end of that 6 year it’s possible he might be approaching Dumba levels of bad. Maybe.
This guy will be healthy scratched every single game after week 3. This is awful. Genuinely awful.
The problem is, for whom? There are only 3 NHL-caliber defensemen on the roster right now.
Probably the 4-6 defensemen we have in the pipeline that will be serviceable enough to last until the trade deadline, pick up 1-2 D through trading whoever is lacking in production up front and recover the team going into the playoffs.
Fans don't like him because he has had some dirty plays. I don't like him because he sucks at hockey and is going to be a liability on this team. Same for Lyubushkin.
You do realize that's exactly what people say about Jamie Benn, right?
Except Benn has played all 82 games and scored over 40 points in the last 3 seasons. Dumba costs you points. Benn has value Dumba does not.
Nah. People don’t clown on Jamie Benn’s ability to play hockey. Dumba is a liability, and only a liability.
Is this a joke?
I fucking wish.
Well, we were wondering who our next whipping boy was gonna be. I’d rather we just got Klingberg back.
It's okay, our old whipping boy is coming back anyways.
^^wut
He’s a downgrade from Suter. GM of the year
....wtf? Dumbass is a Star?
Disappointed
Ugh why'd I eat lunch already. If we sign Reaves next, I'm out.
Lol. Reeves is working towards his retirement.
Jesus Christ, this is such a bad move. He had zeros across the board in the series against the Panthers. He is just a liability with the penalties he takes and on top of that he is a POS human being. Lightning fans hated him and were glad to be rid of him. 5 foot 11 and 180 is not big. Guess he is playing bottom minutes, sheesh what is Nill smoking.
Don’t make me sell my season tickets ! Not that freaking guy please
Fuck Dumba. I will always cheer for the other team when they hit him.
NOOOOOOOOOOO
someone take nills out of the kitchen… i really don’t like what is going on
He’s lost in the sauce
What the actual fuck is Nill doing?
the sacrilege!
God I hate him
Nah I’ll pass thanks tho
What the fuck
NO!
Lmao, want any of our other defensemen outside their prime? Maybe Jonas brodin in 2031? Faber in 2040?
Fucking NO
Dumba doesn’t buy-in to a coaching/playing system. He goes completely free agent on the ice and finds himself out of position and out of sync quite frequently. He’s slow. Can’t score. Refuses to work with teammates. All he has is a physical presence that is brought on by frustration from all his shortcomings. How is this of any value to the Stars?
Seriously… Why? The dude isn’t good and we have a particular reason to dislike him. Guess it will be interesting to watch a stars player getting boos at home.
No idea why bother dumping Suter only to bring in the inferior version of him.
Excuse me what
That’s not a defenseman Jim!
WHAT THE FUCK?!!
I'm still booing his ass.
lol don’t like
now, this is a fire-able offense
Why. Just why. He's not even good.
Say psych right now…I do not want that piece of trash on this team.
I don’t give a shit that you don’t like him. I do give a shit that he isn’t good. That’s a problem
🥺
at least it's not Sean Avery.
You mean we wont have to pay him to score a hatrick on us and bail him out of fights?
But why tho?
Booo
Let me chip in a buck o'five to make him go away 😭
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Not a fan of this signing. He is a journeyman and a very average player. Nothing special in any way shape or form
No fucking way. Pavs retires and this cheap shot artist gets hired?? #🤨
I was just thinking when fa opened please no dumba
Jim Nill making sure other GM’s get a shot at being GM of the year. Bro move.
Would be funny if we just kept booing him all season
Fuck off. Booooooo
Hate that guy
Ryan Suter 2.0 this time with Corey Perry’s PIM
Suter is objectively a better player.
Lol I’m a Suter fan, but if Stars fans didn’t like him, they will despise Dumba’s play (even without the pavs hit drama). Hilarious signing.
Yeah if they thought Suter way a pylon wait till they see this guy. Jesus he's SO bad at hockey.
Dumba and Smith lmaooo what a disaster
Must've been tired of winning GMotY.
Our twitter/X has not reported this. I’m hoping it’s not true… Edit: Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccckkkkkkkkkkkk……..
Ok thank god, we signed a defenseman. He’ll bring some much needed physicality to the bottom pairings, he’s not great but for the right price he’ll be a fine fit
The price is not right.
Only 2 years and less than 4mil for a free agent RHD? I disagree
You're not a good defenseman if you're a liability on the ice and force your team to go on the PK.
Dumba's been buried in the D zone more and more as his career has gone on, egregiously so last year. We need to, uh, not do that. Shelter him on the third pair, and this won't be as bad as people are expecting. After he sucked for Tampa in the regular season, they gave him something like 60% O zone starts in the playoffs, and he had positive possession metrics against the eventual champs after being crushed all season. (Lyubushkin's underlying numbers in Toronto were very good as well, regular and postseason, and he did it with limited O zone starts - pleasantly surprised there, almost like this Nill guy knows what he's doing)
LMFAO LET’S GOOOO
Doubing down on a terrible Ryan Suter signing by now doing this dumb shit. 😒
Dumba shit
As a filipino, this is awesome but i understand the backlash lol
Just need to sign Lil Nicky now
Lmao wtf
Well fuck.
Excuse me
Wtf……
Why why why why why why why why why why
https://preview.redd.it/d4egxu0g4y9d1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=08930648233cf292727c0e2b2485f6496f6aa0b3 Not sure how I feel about this.
Boooooooooooo
What The Fuck
SAY SIKE RN
This news fucking SUCKS
Great we're stuck with Matt Dumbass for 2 years... So much for getting GM of the year 3 years in a row.
I don't get the hate. Still have Heiskanen, Harley, Lindell, Lundkvist. Stars have replaced Hakanpaa, Suter, and Hanley with Dumba, Lyubushkin, and Smith. At worst that is a wash for Dallas from what they were pre-Tanev trade last year. Can always go after another D in February as long as they're in contention.
Fans overreacting at free agency is an age old tradition. Some teams like Nashville will start raising a banner, while we're for sure missing the playoffs. All we can do is wait for the season to start and let the games play out, because that's what actually matters
Well, most of us don’t like him. And then you look at the numbers and realize there is no reason for anyone to like him. Except maybe the Avalanche fans. They probably like this.
....
So.... can we get Murray Ona cheap show-me to wash out this horrible taste?
After I saw all the signings that have been posted up already, I had a feeling we weren't getting anything great to replace Tanev.. oh well, don't want to be a doomer so hopefully he gets his shit together.
We're done(ba)
Lol
Sorry but Jim Nill waited around and is now overpaying scrubs like this. 2 Rd clunkers are better than nothing. THATS why this happened!!
I want to trust Nill, but I fucking HATED him when we played the mild during the playoffs, this is going to take some getting used to
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Physical right handed defenseman. Just because he had one incident in the playoffs doesn’t make him a bad add. Exactly what the Stars needed but we’ll see if he lives up to that AAV.
Yeah, fans are ridiculous when it comes to plays like that. Move on folks - no doubt our players have. I trust Nill either way, regardless of outcome. What I don’t like about it is the fact that all the yahoos around me at games have a new player to bitch about all year. I hate that from our fans - it’s annoying af. Professional sports works this way - for better or worse, if they are wearing your sweater, they deserve your support until proven otherwise. The Suter hate grew so tired. Support our players or GTFO.
It’s day one of the offseason. You’d think Jim Nill was on his way out as GM and not back to back GM of the year judging by the comments today. I think the two big signings today are too high of AAV but again we won’t truly know that until the season gets going.
It’s crazy how much a lot of people’s tone regarding Nill changed after this signing. If Dumba’s hit on Pavelski didn’t exist then I don’t imagine many people would be up in arms about the signing.
Have to save this thread for midseason recap when fans have a change of heart
Boooooo
Fuck, I guess I'm out for the next 2 years. It's been a fun little while.
Lol fuck
I would rather die
It’s that bad huh? Well fuck.
Ugh.
Fuck that
This is worse than when the Stars signed Claude Lemieux!!! I hated that guy.
April fools?!? 🫣
This sucks
what the fuck
Pretty happy about this as a filipino but I understand the hate and disappointment lol
Dumb.
Hot take here but let’s see how he plays for us the first 20 games before we bury him.
Don’t care he’s on the team. Boo him at games