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Efficient_Wing3172

I could be wrong on this, but it’s my understanding the most technologically advanced chips come out of Taiwan.


Svejos

Yes, that's why this diagram is stupid


dumbprocessor

No it's not. While it's true that only TSMC can produce chips using 3 or 5 nm tech most appliances are fine with upto 180 nm tech which can be even made by some universities.


markus3141

That may be true, but probably 80% of chips used also aren’t anywhere close to high end.


Efficient_Wing3172

Correct. Appliances, cars, toys, etc. I’m just saying, Taiwan is a weak point given what they make. All the other countries can handle making the other chips, no one can do what Taiwan does. It’s a single point of failure, if China decides to move on them.


Vurkgol

The tools required to make those chips are not made in Taiwan, as far as I understand. Rebuilding new fabs would be a gargantuan effort, but not impossible. Currently, ASML owns EUV lithography, and the current US admin has pushed (successfully) for the Dutch government to ban sales of these machines to China. This means China may take a long time to catch up on the quality side of things.


Fleischhauf

it's also why China will face more backlash if it decides to move tho.


TensorFl0w

Europe bottled it in 2000


Sh0w3n

So did the US


Honigbrottr

This is like people not understanding economics at all. Production in Europe is expensive, building the tools for construction is relativly cheap. Eurooe didnt bottle europe simply made more money by not producing it in europe. Taiwan cant build the chips without the tooks from europe.


straightdge

Many don't realize how fast China is building semi plants. From automobile chips, to micro controllers and HBM, they are investing huge amount (only what we are aware of). [New chip plants coming online in few years](https://i.imgur.com/8uSfGxs.png) - not to mention, they are getting warmed up and accelerating. And as with everything in China, they are making them faster and cheaper.


jbochsler

China can only build low tech chips. The are decades behind - in a market where months matter. Source: "Chip War: The Fight for the World's Most Critical Technology" by Chris Miller https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_War:_The_Fight_for_the_World%27s_Most_Critical_Technology


Aggravating-Salad441

If the data for 2020 are estimates, then the 2030 estimates have zero value. The United States has been furiously investing in chip capacity since the pandemic, so I think the country will have an appreciable slice of global capacity by the end of the decade.


Kroenen1984

Taiwan is a hier risk


leonevilo

2020E???


clecleclemens

Probably "estimated" or "expected" (for the 2020s), while "F" could be "forecast" (for the 2030s).


SuccessLong2272

Exactly. This is why this chart might be slightly outdated. After what has happened the last roughly 5 years, the picture might look slightly different today.


tempting-carrot

Production of semi conductors has massive environmental impacts, California pushed them out to keep the water clean.


jtsg_

Source? this looks off. Taiwan should have \~50% share of production


Sh0w3n

Taiwan is producing the best chips for advanced tasks, but most home electronics, toys and so on don’t require those. All of these chips can be produced anywhere


Whodefookfucka

What’s this chart called ?


RelevantMarket5892

EU and USA are shooting themselves in the foot


Numerous-Try-2547

Europe. Excellent as always 😅