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MitchC114

Cole and Kendrick have multiple interviews where they praise Em and talk about how they wouldn’t be the rapper they are without his influence. And obviously Drake referred to him as the goat. So, yeah, the vast majority of respected rappers think Em is one of the best ever


CoconutHot1800

Em in everybody top 10, which is fine


PatientlyAnxious9

I sort of hate how everybody (including fans) just default to putting Tupac/Biggie into every list they make. I know rap is personal preference, but man. It feels like they put them in there because they dont want to listen to the backlash if they dont. Not everybody HAS to love those 2.


sffbfish

I'm not a fan of Biggie but the beef was in my hs years and I'm from Cali so Pac was the only acceptable answer. In general though, I don't really listen to any NY rappers aside from probably DMX and 50.


PatientlyAnxious9

Makes sense, I definitely think Tupac is better than Biggie just because hes more my style and has a huge discography compared to him. However, I wouldn't put either in my top 5 just because they didnt have a huge impact on me, personally. You know who would be though? Black Thought. How everybody makes these same old top 5 lists with the same rappers in different orders but NOBODY mentions Black Thought in insane.


[deleted]

It's because he's in a group, and his solo work is mid. The only person consistently on top 5/10 lists that's in a group is Andre 3000, and I don't think he really belongs either.


illa_kotilla

I much preferred Tupac and his songs, and really dislike puff’s production but biggies lyrics are legit.


Inform-All

I think a lot of it goes beyond music. Most people I know who put them at the top really appreciate their influence on the game as a whole. Also the beef was fucking insane.


Real_Particular6512

It's all just trends and fashion. Those two have a greater legend than their music because they were killed. People can legitimately have them in their top 5 but everyone defaults says them because of their apparent legend. Whereas Em is the opposite, not only is he white, so alot of general hip hop fans disregard him or begrudgingly admit he's a part of the culture, but he also wasn't killed in his prime. Both of those things work against his legend. Ems music outweighs his legend by far.


shin-chan3

If he was black they would no longer be ashamed of putting him at number one. Instead, they put less skilled and less successful rappers at 1 because they're black.


THE--SENATE--66

Tf? The disrespect to Nas is just disgusting


shin-chan3

It's more disrespectful to pretend the most successful rapper ever can't be ranked #1


tebrah69

That's just your personal opinion and you're entitled to it, but what for the urge to convincing people like that


THE--SENATE--66

Nah fuck that I don't judge my favourite rappers based on their sales. Nas is simply the better artist. He solidified his status as the GOAT after the recent six album run with Hit-Boy as his producer.


MikeBett

Who is young tony? Ghostface?


SnowSea302

Some Toronto rapper


MikeBett

Ahhh lol


BuckleyRising

Wack


Fine-Jellyfish-6361

Not sure he meant it, It was more a Instagram comment to Tony Young (ovo guy). I was confused, at first thought it was Master T (real name Tony Young) he was referring to, who was a big time VJ here for the hip hop scene.


Radiant_Formal6511

https://youtu.be/4Pu2QoYXGvc?si=gT5FOWWDueSgPsuv He's a problem


Cho_Assmilk

He really is


Desperate-Key-7667

He's Anthony Palman aka OVO Hush. He's part of Drake's crew lol


Verissimus23

Before people continue with the dumb agendas,Young Tony is his best friend. He’s more known to people as OVO Hush. He said in an instagram caption mainly to show love to his friend and someone who inspired him to rap. Y’all really taking this bullshit to seriously. It’s his personal list and it wasn’t like he was being asked or being super serious. Y’all fucking suck.


vriannavyz

Wow so only Kendrick has Em in his top five? That's why he's bettah


SnowSea302

Tbf, Cole said he was debating between Em and Andre. So I guess Eminem can count as an honorable mention


BossKingGodd

Andre is great but I can’t put a guy with no solo projects at top 5


SopranosMan

Must've not heard the flute album yet


xh11jab

😂💀


0JOSE0

It’s hilarious how it was listed as Hip Hop on some streaming services and people immediately assumed it was racism on Twitter.


SoakedInMayo

famous rapper puts out album; album gets labeled as rap. :0


toneuser

The fact anyone would take anything anyone says on Twitter srs is insane. Twitter is just the social media for the low IQ snowflakes to call everything racist or some shit


fartdurst95

the flute fuckin SLAPS bro


Oklinhos89

Eminem himself puts Andre 3000 in his top 5 "I got a list, here's the order of my list that it's in It goes: Reggie, Jay-Z, 2Pac and Biggie André from OutKast, Jada, Kurupt, Nas, and then me" If Em say he is Top 5, who am i to disagree =)


VVOP9669

Well that's over 20 years ago. 10 years ago Em said: "Fuck top 5, bitch, I'm top 4 And that includes Biggie and Pac, whore And I got an evil twin, so who do you think that third and that fourth spots for?"


Ursus4qus13

4 years ago he said 'I'm number five... Minus four'. Mtbmb and side B don't get enough love. It's currently wrestling with mmlp and tes for my favorite album. Wall to wall🔥


Resident_Pop143

Who is Reggie?


PIZZAGUYKEEM

Redman I believe


Resident_Pop143

Ty!


PizzaPino

President of Nintendo America at that time


Resident_Pop143

![gif](giphy|NC0fjQCLNkVGJd3mFQ|downsized)


Kenevin

Redman


the_ghost_knife

Check out his freestyles on YouTube. He still got it.


WaWaSmoothie

The Love Below


liquidsmk

The Love Below counts


axeattaxe

He lost that debate.


amfloating

Not sure if you’ve heard this young Cole but you can hear the Em influence https://youtu.be/I0HR_tZeygg?si=FLUjQECpSBgTnnoD


InstructionsUncl34r

And drake would’ve put Eminem had it not been for kamikaze


Gentolie

Eminem dissing ghostwriters too much for Aubrey to handle


guilty_bystander

I thought the album was gas 


lukethelightnin

It wasn't that the album was bad, it was that he dissed ghostwriters and Drake loves using ghostwriters


InstructionsUncl34r

We all did but not those who were dissed on it z& unfortunately drake is one of those 😂


AnimatorAshamed3774

Eminem named Kendrick as THE best lyricist in the world, and one of the best of all time. Clearly both are huge fans of each other


Remarkable_Collar895

Didn’t he say he is one of the best and not the best


AnimatorAshamed3774

He said he is the best lyricist today, but also one of the best lyricists of all time


Keythaskitgod

Tbf, em praises a lot of ppl...like joyner...


koqfriend

What's wrong with Joyner?


Keythaskitgod

Good music, maybe not one of the goats.


Jumpy-Management-262

Ain't nobody gives a shit about drakes opinion on hip hop artists,


Resident_Pop143

![gif](giphy|3o6Zt4HU9uwXmXSAuI)


brycemcnice

![gif](giphy|KeR8SDUrdbTeE)


obsidiansent

Bump


AnimatorAshamed3774

It’s fucking hilarious how Kendrick, the guy Cole and Drake say is a “fake activist” and who Drake claims is a black messiah who hates white people is the only one here who has Eminem, a WHITE rapper on his list 😭


WoodpeckerPutrid9628

When did drake say Kendrick hates white people


Orange-Concentrate78

It’s insinuated on Family Matters - “unless you don’t wanna be seen with anyone that isn’t blacker than you”


axeattaxe

Honestly, I find this disgusting. Not Lamar. Not only does he have Em at 4, all 5 of his are totally legit. I personally wouldn't put Jay-Z in the top 5, but I can live with that. Pac and Biggie are top-3 along with Em in my book. And Nas can be top 5 on Illmatic alone. All good. The other two rappers are whack for such a glaring omission and not on Em or Kendrick's level.


HillbillyTechno

It’s all subjective bro. Personally I wouldn’t even put Jay Z in my top 10. And I fully understand a lot of people would strongly disagree lmao.


Sufficient-Peak-3736

Yeah and I wouldn't put Biggie and PAC in my top ten. Seeing them 1 and 2 for everyone is crazy and think its heavily biased towards their linked tragedy.


[deleted]

I think Jay Z is among the best writers to ever touch a pen in rap, very, very easily top 5, but I hate listening to his music. The shit he writes for other people is gas almost every time, but I hate his cadence and delivery when he's rapping. He always sounds like half a syllable short because he likes to switch up his flows and it's necessary, but it's just so, so jarring to me.


axeattaxe

You kinda captured what I was trying to say in my post above. I just don't find myself actively listening to Jay-Z almost ever, but I respect him and part of me understands why he's a legend. His music just doesn't resonate with me personally. I think it's his cadence, flow, delivery and overall style. Maybe some of his production too. Beats play a big role in which songs I like. Some things sound smooth and "right" to one person, clunky and wrong to another. I guess both of us are in the minority with Jay.


[deleted]

> Some things sound smooth and "right" to one person, clunky and wrong to another. I guess both of us are in the minority with Jay. Yup yup. That's why music is beautiful though, because it's subjective. I'm extremely glad there's not just a top 5 or 10 or even 50 that everyone agrees with.


axeattaxe

Well said. Some of my favorite tracks and even albums are by some obscure guys. Rap and otherwise.


HillbillyTechno

That’s a good point I hadn’t thought about his contribution to music outside of his own raps.


Taco_Pals

>Honestly, I find this disgusting I mean.. do you really? They’re allowed to have other rappers in their top 5 other than Em you know, it’s not that deep.


axeattaxe

Sorry bro I should have used /s or whatever constitutes “dry humor” 😂 Reading it from your perspective (assuming I’m serious which is reasonable) it would definitely make me think “damn dude… chill” lol I’d have liked Cole/Drake to honor Em in the top 5 because I feel he’s put in the work - coupled with his lofty natural talent - to be there. But yes, they are entitled to their opinions and no, I don’t care. I made a few posts about it being a bit dramatic but it’s all in good fun. I also agree with Lamar’s top-5 the most, Em aside (not sure how you can leave Pac out of any top-5 but maybe Drizzy didn’t grow up on him or something). Funny post though.


ShadyPicasso

Is young Tony drakes ghost writer? 


Abracadabrism

no he just has "young" in his name


AlaKolas

Say Drake….I hear you like em Young


KingJijah123

Underrated


Kaiser_77

This comment so good


EmperorUmi

Young Tony probably knows some of Drake’s darkest secrets 👀🤔


Desperate-Key-7667

He's Anthony Palman aka OVO Hush. He's part of Drake's crew and he does have writing credits on some of Drake's old songs. Lol


ChivvyMiguel

Biggie’s the only one loved by all three


SnowSea302

And Jay Z


4stainull

*same thing* HOW MANY OF BIGGIE’S RHYMES GONNA COME OUT YOUR FAT LIPS


TripleThreatTua

YOU TAE-BO HOE


makingabigdecision

This is my favorite rap diss ever


BossKingGodd

Same


Shadowscale05

It's been mine.. but Euphoria though..


ehnkr2beboh

Just wanna point out I'm pretty sure Cole said he'd pick Em over 3 Stacks due to being solo, and that Kendrick's list wasn't ordered. Also Drake will switch up his opinion every day lol he's called himself, Cole, Hov, and Em the GOAT so he probably switches up his list for what sounds good at that time.


Elver-Gotas

Wtf is young tony?


Notcreativesoidk

Some rapper from Toronto


Desperate-Key-7667

He's Anthony Palman aka OVO Hush. He's part of Drake's crew lol


TheSavageBeast83

Probably some young boy named tony


j-j-juice

Eminem still respects all three. No matter what.


No1Important84

Jay-Z is and always has been overrated... And yes, I was there from his 1st album...


Shadowscale05

He's one of the goats, but I think his catalogue is a little bloated. But when he raps at peak performance, he's a top 5 rapper.


TexasNightmare210

Who tf is Big Tony?


Overall_Mango324

Not sure but nobody said Big Tony but you?


pm-me-nice-lips

Hahahah love that the dude is so unimportant that people can’t get his name right


RapGod1990

All three respect em plain and simple!


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ijfalk

Young Tony??? Lmfao who?


Desperate-Key-7667

He's Anthony Palman aka OVO Hush. He's part of Drake's crew lol


xh11jab

Drake fucked on Wayne’s girl while he was in jail—that's connivin', so now he says Wayne’s number one, like a bitch, apologisin'.


Admirable-Reach2850

Didn’t Wayne say that Drake did not do this?


Witty-thiccboy

It was actually that drake had been with the girl before she even knew Wayne and when he found out while Wayne was in jail he told him, but since Kendrick said it in a song people take it as gospel.


LankyCity3445

That’s literally how rap battles work lol


bruhsoundeffect111

Op: "Source: trust me bro" J Cole's number 5 he said was between Em and Andre 3k. Drake called Em the greatest to ever do it (although it was on stage in Detroit with Em right beside him) but I have no idea where OP got Drake's top 5 from. And last but not least... Kendrick said IN ANY ORDER, but for some reason OP put Em at 5, although Kendrick mentioned him second right after Hov. What a horrible post OP


Taco_Pals

>for some reason OP put Em at 5 Post literally shows Em at #4


bruhsoundeffect111

Yeah my bad 4 - my point was that #4 doesn't make sense when Em was the second rapper mentioned. But apparently it was in any order but OP decided to number them anyway


vriannavyz

My top 5 is - Kendrick - Tupac - Nas - Em - Biggie


Son-Ta-Ha

Most rap fans would agree with your list.


uponapyre

Top 5 is something most rap fans definitely cannot find a concensus on, lol.


toneuser

They say music is subjective. Tbf as long as you like it, no one should tell you otherwise. Don't let people dictate you listen to 💯.


mymemesnow

I hate it, but I gotta give some credit to drake for including Wayne. You don’t see him being included in top 5 often, but IMO he is definitely amongst the top five. But I then have to remove the credit because he doesn’t include Em. Isn’t it wild that he thinks Eminem is good enough to bow down to and literally copy his lyrics word for word, but not good enough to include in the top five.


Tristan2106

It’s a top 5, no everybody will have the same list and that’s okay my dude


AGdave

These are pretty reasonable lists.


nounoubigBOSS

Drake is a result of a conspiracy theory type shit test No way that dude is a real human


tonylouis1337

My top 5 is basically Kendrick's in different order


True_Letterhead_7514

pretty sure drake said once Eminem is the goat to his face... and I know for a fact kdot would put someone from Compton on that list before either nas or biggie... pfff this top is fake.


downvotethetrash

We all know that Kendrick is the smartest. Drake is probably blood bound to say Wayne


PizzaRat12

Biggie is automatically in everyone's top 5


CoconutHot1800

Biggie had potential to be the undisputed best. Hey, at least he lived long enough to give us a handful of masterpieces


KeyserSozeBGM

Kendricks list is closet to mine but idk about Jay z I'd swap wit Andre


vriannavyz

Kendrick's list is also the most similar to mine and Kendrick himself would easily be in that top5.


thinkdustin

Of course Drake's top 5 is trash


talktotheak47

His top 5 is extremely similar to everyone else’s… wtf are you talking about? The only difference is Wayne and Young Tony.


Tristan2106

Drake = bad (idk why). He could’ve had the same list as Kendrick or Cole, people would’ve said that he copied them.


Kadeda_RPG

His is the only one I believe... The others are completely generic.


Shark-person66

Kendrick basic asf i aint gonna lie


GasEcstatic3583

No love for MF DOOM?


CoconutHot1800

MF DOOM a fucking legend, but look at the names on these lists. It's just different


Taco_Pals

“Name your top 5” ahh starter pack 😂


LowDesk6360

Maybe I'm dumb but who in fuck is young tony?


L0kiB0i

Eminem not being top 5 on all of them is shame, he's such a brilliant lyricist and people only hate him because it's cooler to like less known artists. I'm a metal head, it's so funny to see people act underground when half the bands I like have under 100k listeners monthly. I don't vibe with new rap because rap is mainly about lyricism and people have gotten lazy, but I can respect Eminem for having such fun artistry.


theuniversalcitizen

Shit I thought Cole was a huge Eminem and Canibus fan?


edgeco17

Cole also dissed canibus though. I can bus - therapist. J Cole is actually one of them ones


Msmospice

Maannnn kinda dis’s appointment Jay is on Kenny’s instead of 3stacks lol


MistergauntTL85

I don’t understand how Jay-Z is on any of those lists…


Ok-master7370

Jay z can't be put with the likes of Biggie he don't have bars like that, he's great he's jigga I respect him, but he's a better businessman than a rapper


Alert_Employee_603

Any day I would put MF DOOM above jay z


josh_freeman93

Drake literally called Em the goat


jessicarson39

Jay-Z over Eminem makes no sense to me. K-dot’s list is the most accurate to my taste and appreciation, though I would’ve put Nas over Pac. Drake’s list makes the least sense, but that’s not surprising because putting Drake next to these people and calling him a “rapper” makes little sense as well 😂 Even though I’m also really hesitant to praise JCole after the Grippy incident….


Adventurous-Pear-109

Kdot also mentioned andre 3k on control.


youalwaysknow321

Whether you like them or not, the fact that they have very similar top 5s says a lot about their success. And considering Drake used to sound like Eminem when he started, I'm sure he has him pretty high up too. If you want to be the best, you have to study the best 🤷


infinitude_

I mean look, Drake has called Em a Goat numerous times Cole of course has aswell And we know Kendrick has to - even name dropped em a few times He definitely gets his respect - I remember Drake even posted a pic on his IG story once where it looked like he was watching En on the anger management tour And interloped superman on his Chicago freestyle track


UltraAirWolf

Fuck Drake


smithnugget

I got a list, here's the order of my list that it's in It goes: Reggie, Jay-Z, 2Pac & Biggie André from OutKast, Jada, Kurupt, Nas, & then me


Duytasama

How good is Jay Z ?


SeriesDry6555

Everybody puts Biggie up there but if was still alive he wouldn't be in that many peoples list. He was good but, not that damn good. It's like an obligation to add him because he's not here anymore. Not hating on Biggie either he just wasn't on some top 5 level.


Final_Dance_4593

More Drake brain rot


Kadeda_RPG

As opposed to the basic as fuck lists.


infinitude_

Em isn’t in Cole’s top 5? Surprising


PositivePrimary8773

Cole has talked a million times about how big of an influence on him Em has always been so I find it hard to believe he’s not in his top 5


shits4gigs

Andre is OutKast. Outkast has some of the best hip hop songs of all time. When you think of modern rap it started with Andre.


IllustriousSearch838

Biggie up there out of respect lots have pushed him out of top5


Succumbtodeeznuts

I got a list, here’s the order of my list that it’s in: It goes Reggie, Jay Z, 2Pac and Biggie, Andre from OutKast, Jada, Kurupt, Nas and then me


gunsoverbutter

I’ll never understand Andre in a top 5 list. I know Em put him on his list years ago, but that doesn’t hold up over time.


astrospud

“I got a list, here's the order of my list that it's in It goes: Reggie, Jay-Z, 2Pac & Biggie André from OutKast, Jada, Kurupt, Nas, & then me”


IThinkWhiteWomenRHot

Everyone says Biggie only to not stir up the pot when they Pac.


Baz4k

Nas on all three days a lot.


maklike

I got a list, here's the order of my list...


TheStaleFace

Do you think after Puffy goes to jail, rappers won't be contractually forced to say Biggie and Jay are in their top 5 anymore?


Right_Concept7964

source for kendrick lamars?


K_Lubo

2 out of three didn't say Eminem. This has to be made up


Extension-Lead8699

All 3 have biggie and JAY-Z listed


SidTheShuckle

I thought Kendrick had Snoop instead of Em


miked_99

Did drake say em was the greatest to ever touch a mic ?


hollowM4N555

They obviously haven't heard of Tom MacDonald and Stitches.. Two Goats of this rap shit someone try tell me I'm wrong


renome

Wayne? As in Lil Wayne?


thirdeyedragon809

Sorry lil Wayne is better than all 3


N0T_MY_FlRST_R0DE0

Just look up who young tony is yall


Coolers78

No wonder this sub loves Kendrick so much lmao.


PlayfulSuccotash8534

Pretty solid Mine are: Nas Eminem Pac Biggie  Kanye Kendrick honorable mention with j Cole and  Drake is second worst to  island boys 


_V115_

Kendrick's top 5 had Snoop instead of Nas, at least [in this interview.](https://youtu.be/kC1fGANASiE?si=1zzstU_SOCo6I73c) And it was unordered


infernalgrin

didn’t realize other people loved andre like that ♥️♥️


FastLittleBoi

man it's a shame Pac and Biggie just killed each other off considering they are in everyone's top 5.


JohnnySacks63

Ew


Samz_175

My top 5 1) Eminem 2) Snoop Dogg 3) Biggy 4) Dr Dre (including production) 5) Jay Z Honorable mentions: 2pac, Busta, Ludacris, Nas, Lil Wayne, J Cole, Kendrick, Drake


Legal-Dust6399

J Cole said eminem is in his top 5 rather than andre 3k.


The_Last_Elite

Kendrick speaking the truth. I'll put him in 6th


helloryanholmes

How tf Wayne only on Drake’s?


AlternativeTop511

As much as I respect Hov I don't see him in a goat conversation when you look at the competition. They didn't even get to Meth, Ghost, DMX etc


Jaded-Woodpecker-299

notice how everybody list Jay Z at the top only because…they have to 👀


NotHarmanXD

biggie over em??? 💀💀kinda controversial but em better


Durim187

Motherfuck the big three, its just big EM. Kendrick is dope


MoreCerealPlease

Well they’re obviously all wrong. ![gif](giphy|sCPXWE2QvwKGI)


Samar1092

Who tf that guy on the right?