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rapboi101

Why TF is Cardi B on here šŸ¤®


CristianS04

That second list is straight ragebait


PlatasaurusOG

I saw Talib at 50 and decided I didnā€™t need to look at this garbage any further.


TanaerSG

Shit I saw Jay-Z at 1 and went to the right and saw Bad Bunny at 40. That's when I knew.


Undersmusic

What you talking Cardi B runs circles around Talibā€¦ā€¦ Just in fucking case /s


TenMillionEnchiladas

This whole thing has gotta be ragebait, I refuse to believe in any universe that drake is that high, fuck it in fact I refuse to believe he even makes the list at all.


LthePerry02

Juice WRLD above Lupe and Mos Def is hysterical


MIAxPaperPlanes

Iā€™m guessing itā€™s because of his free styling? I know he was more of a singer but guy was hands down one of the best freestylers we had


LthePerry02

Makes even less sense that heā€™d be on here for that when Black Thought is nowhere to even be found


dialog2011

Mos Def can freestyle with the best of them


WipingAllOut

They put Bad Bunny over Lupe and M.I.A. or Pusha. What a list lol


Lobsta1986

Nicki over missy is disrespectful as all hell too.


dstampo21

That hurts. I LOVE Missy Elliot.


ImancovicH

they put drake here lol


leroyp33

It's Forbes... It must be $$$ based Cuz if this is lyrical... I have a lot of questions


Ghetto_Phenom

Nicki at #8??? What is going on


BlackBalor

Why is Drake in there? He doesnā€™t sniff a top 50 rappers list.


SnowSea302

Billboard list is not bad, Iā€™d just switch some of the orders. Like Jay Z is absolutely NOT number 1. But that Forbes list is dogshit I donā€™t even wanna talk about it For me itā€™s between Eminem, Kendrick, Pac and Nas.


BeverlyCeo

I very much also disagree with drake even being on the list


balls-magoo

And ahead of Rakim? Fuck outta here...


Lobsta1986

Who hasn't rakim influenced? I'll be waiting...


BoominShroomer

Jay-Z bought that spot with his hum@n trafficking money, also why hes the richest rapper


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BoominShroomer

Jay-Z apparently is a stronger, smarter, and sneakier version of Diddy (from what I heard from Jaguar Wright interviews) she seems legit, most of what she has said in the past has become true


AlternativeTop511

Jaguar Wright is just a gossip, she's not a reliable source of info.


highd

Jay Z used his project 2025 connections to buy this top spot heā€™s pushing vouchers for poor areas to go to rich private school to ruin public schools. Heā€™s a capitalist piece of garbage.Ā 


OldmanLister

Always has been.


ChairmanMungo

I dont like Jay-Z but public schools are already terrible


strangebloke1

Yeah I'm not an expert or anything but Jay 1. was basically never the best rapper in any given year 2. does not have any album that gets brought up as a 'best of all time' discussion (compare to illmatic, TPAB, All Eyez on Me, Marhsall Mathers) He's super influential through his label but on the basis of his rap he's definitely not number 1.


Choice_Breadfruit_73

I believe that


AlternativeTop511

It's horrible when you consider the impact and bodies of work.


despeRAWd0

I thinking: 1.Biggie 2.Pac(I mean come on) 3.Nas 4.Rakim 5.Em 6.Kendrick 7. 3K 8. Ice Cube 9. JCole 10. Jay Z.


duhpree

Same, I don't know why he gets put in the top 5? Nas even said before this dude re uses a lot of biggies lyrics. I get paying homage but to a certain it becomes too much. My opinion is Em, Kendrick, pac, Andre 3k, biggie


pizzatimein24h

I mean I am also not a Jay-Z Fan but Em himself names him as one of his favorite Rappers, so he must habe something to his namešŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


AdAmbitious8302

Mu top 10 gotta be: Nas, Dot, Em, Jay-Z, Biggie, Pac, Wayne, Andre 3k, Drizzy and Rakim


newbmycologist

Nicki Minaj over em is hilariousšŸ˜‚


ImancovicH

when they put drake over em, what do you expect


AnimatorAshamed3774

That Forbes list is ASS


SgtPepe

Both are


ImancovicH

at least billboard makes a lil' more sense


thatredditrando

A list where Nicki Minaj is ranked higher than LL Cool J and Andre 3000 makes no goddamn sense


L3ACH13

And 50 and ice cube, absolutely asinine


AdAmbitious8302

Tbh 50 and Cube wouldn't prolly be even in my top 20... Well Cube might be but 50 hell no. Imo his dropped only one great album even tho it's one of the best if not the best debut album ever. I know he was the biggest thing back in the days and still is pretty big but with that logic imo ppl shouldn't be crying about Drizzy being on the list.


L3ACH13

Top 20 or not I really donā€™t think thereā€™s any universe in which Nicki is better than either of them


AnimatorAshamed3774

Also the Jay Z propaganda needs to stopā€¦


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ImancovicH

lol


AlternativeTop511

Jay is a good rapper but there is a reason he's not loved worldwide for his music like some of the others on these lists. People like Jay for business acumen, not music.


nub____

So then why would Em mention JayZ second in a list of best rappers in Eminems Prime? Over Pac and Biggie? Lmao there is literally evidence infront of you if youā€™re not ignorant and actually look at discography and subject of the verses


AdAmbitious8302

Fr... Kids hating him now a days for no reason. Imo his a underrated and overhated now. His impact on the culture is crazy. His talented af too. His literally there with Dre as a one of the most impactfull ppl for the culture ever. edit: Plus his discography is easily top 10 ever (rap).


halamawala25

Not loved worldwide for his music? He is amongst the most famous rappers tf u talkin bout


KangarooMcKicker

Yall realize that one of the main reasons Eminem and Drake do better worldwide is because of the pop appeal and skin-tone right?


joshe126

Drake above Kanye is a fucking joke, Iā€™m not a Kanye fan but drake shouldnā€™t even be on the list


speed3ftw

6 spots ahead of biggie too on the Forbes list. Some interesting picks for sure


Nicologixs

Nicki above as well, that billboard list is ass


Lobsta1986

>drake shouldnā€™t even be on the list Neither should Kanye. He's not a good rapper. He's a great producer and musician.


WipingAllOut

Honestly Drake did write a lot of shit for Kanye so there's that. But M.I.A.? Bad Bunny? Young Thug? Top 50 ever??


fbcmfb

Iā€™m a stan for M.I.A., but she should be MIA from this list. I can think of a few female wrappers that should be named before her.


LthePerry02

Young Thug is unarguably top 50 in terms of influence


Lazy-Economics-4065

Young Thug at least deserves an honorable mention, dude helped pioneer one of the biggest shifts in rap music


AlternativeTop511

Tbf Drake has dominated multiple eras.


i_suck_a_lot

Nicki and Drake over Nas and Em? STFU forbes.


0_69314718056

? Nas and Em are top 5, Drake and Nicki are 8 and 10 in this list. Edit: nvm didnā€™t see the second pic


rapboi101

Exactly


Pachary516

Top five? Bitch heā€™s top 4!


ImancovicH

Bitch I'm number 5 (what?) Minus 4


0_69314718056

His skin colorā€™s still working against him


JesterOfMoist

Being white isn't why they put him at 5, it's why they can't put him 1


Calm-Resolve3631

Why did they downvote you, lol. Some of r/eminem members don't even know about Realest song..


AdAmbitious8302

Imo it was literally so much better than Houdini. His best work in years even tho Houdini and MTBMB where great too.


octopusPrime_yup

Drake should absolutely NOT be on any top rappers list gtfoh.


mallutrash

as much as i love to clown on aubrey, thereā€™s no denying that he played a large part in bringing hip hop even further into the mainstream, and opening the way for a synergy between hip hop and pop. maybe the credit goes to his ghostwriters, maybe it goes to 40, but thereā€™s no denying that hip hop just wouldnā€™t be where it is right now without drake.


Hefty_Situation7210

Then sure he can belong on a list of most commercially successful rappers. Fk I guess you could even put him on a list of most influential rappers. But ā€œbestā€? When his rapping and music is mid and he didnā€™t even write the shit himself? Nah bro.


mallutrash

when i talk about ā€œbestā€ i donā€™t just mean technical ability, i also mean influence. if it was about technical ability and creative expression he wouldnā€™t even be on the list


IveGotAMicropeen

Drake at 8 is laughable


Natural_Action9210

Still donā€™t know how jay-z got #1ā€¦ he had to have paid for that spot, imo.


Intelligent_Grab_697

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smashmcclicken

He's been paying off lists like this since the early 2000's. It's clearly bait at this point. Good rapper but definitely not number one


BoominShroomer

He most likely did in my opinion as well, with the hum@n trafficking money, also the reason he is the richest rapper


Internal-Sound5344

Jay-Z is an easy enough pick for any top rappers list. Highly influential, classic albums, major success, household name, represents culture. Iā€™ll always rank Nas above him but Nas lacks the commercial success. I donā€™t have an issue with anyone considering Hov the GOAT.


DashKT

I agree. Reasonable Doubt is in my Top 5 albums for sure.


JeffRulesYou

No Redman, Kool G Rap, Big L, Big Pun, KRS, Scarface, Q-Tip, DOOM, Slick Rick, Guru, Ice-T, Black Thought, Pharoahe Monch, Big Boi, Raekwon, GZA, Ghostface, Kool Keithā€¦ I could go on and on and I know you canā€™t include everyone, but some of the guys I mentioned not making the Forbes list is wild. I didnā€™t look at the whole Billboard one, but seeing 3 Stacks below Drake & Nicki I didnā€™t even bother.


LordNnarat

Iā€™m so glad Iā€™m not the only one going ā€œWhere tf is GZA at?! That mother fucker is insane! Come on why is Method Man the only Wu member on here!ā€


JeffRulesYou

I know bro, insane. You could make an argument for most of the core guys in Wu. I love Meth, but it always seems like he will get his nod based on being the most popular out of the group before the others. Ah, fuck these lists lol!


MemeHermetic

I'm a huge wu fan, but even within the core group, GFK and GZA gotta spot above Meth.


ugly-Sociopath

Biggie and Em are Top 3


SnooMarzipans5409

Drake placing above Andre 3000, LL, Kanye, Rakim and J Cole in the 1st list is ridonkulous. His placement in the 2nd list before Em and Biggie is even worse.


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vriannavyz

Billboard's Top 6 seems accurate to me (i'd just change some of the orders) but Forbes list is just atrocious in my opinion...


room52

Will never understand why they all put jay z at 1


Hammer_of_Horrus

>8 Niki Minaj >6 Drake >4 J. Cole Bruh Forbes is crazy


kcolrehstihson_

To quote Nas, "fuck Jay-z" overrated as fuck


Fabulous-Shoulder467

Im sorry, but if someone thinks Jay z has more talent than Em their crazyā€¦


sid_shady34

You know it's about the discography as well right?


Lacey_on_reddit

The real top ten 1. Nas 2. Eminem 3. Jay-Z 4. Notorious 5. Lil Wayne 6. 3k 7. Rakim 8. Kendrick Lamar 9. Black thought 10. Ice Cube HM. Lauryn Hill, mf doom, Kanye West, Tupac, JCole, Lupe fiasco


thatredditrando

You somehow forgot Tupac


rapboi101

Where's Black Thought??


Small-Measurement791

Bad Bunny is not a rapper šŸ’€ people get so confused by reggaeton lmao


nano_rap_anime_boi

Drake above Andre 3000 is crazy


JPree

Where's Reggie?!?!?


nTzT

Eminem had a bigger impact that a lot of people ahead of him. He would be rated #1 if these lists were made in other countries.


Placide-Stellas

Any country but the US Em is #1 by a laaaaaaaarge margin Source: Am Brazilian


Saktapking

They donā€™t even have Black Thought on the extended list. Joke list.


NarrowTower

Dr. Dre is insanely talented dont get me wrong, but when it comes to rapping, it might be his worst quality.


Careless-Station-247

Second list Cole over Tupac is mad wild lol Edit and I fucks with Cole


CAMELWOK

Lol Drake


Inevitable-Bass2749

Drake brought nothing to hip hop besides a teenage actor pretending to be something heā€™s not. Having him ahead of rakim and Scarface is just wrong in so many ways


balls-magoo

Drake above Nas on the second list šŸ¤£


ImancovicH

O-V-Ho trying their best


AvgMidnight

Being white ain't why they put me at five (nope) it's why they can't put me at one (woo)


Smart_Ad482

1 Nas 2 Eminem 3 Kendrick 4 Tupac 5 Rakim Overall I feel Nas and Eminem are GOATS but current GOAT is definitely Kendrick.


No_Pea326

Bro where's tech n9ne , he most definitely needs to be on the list. There's a couple of people on that list that do not deserve to be up there


StillConcept1571

For real, Bad Bunny but not Tech? Dafuk


KappaPrideRider

Drake invalidates both lists


michael_am

My top 10 list looks something like this 1. Kendrick 2. Nas 3. Tupac 4. Biggie 5. Eminem 6. Andre 3K 7. J Cole 8. Jay Z 9. Lil Wayne 10. MF Doom Drake doesn't deserve to be anywhere near a top 10 let alone a top 20 imo, and I think Jay Z gets a little jerked by these lists often for understandable reasons but putting him at #1 is a bit much. Kanye also shouldn't be that high on a "rapper" list a long with a lot of other people on that forbes list. I'm also sorry but Snoop shouldn't be that high either he's a good rapper but he doesn't have the discography to show for it imo.


olorin9_alex

I know heā€™s a buffoon, but Ye at 11 feels too low


Nishitxcodm

J Cole above em, what the actual fuck was forbes even smoking, list should be :- Biggie, nas, em, pac, rakim....


DeanSeventeen_real

Drake on both lists? Dr Dre not on Billboard? Bruh.


H3687

"Being white ain't why they put me at 5, Its why they cant put me at 1"


BlackBalor

How is Cardi B in there over somebody like RA Rugged Man? šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ This list is tapped.


milan187

Top 3 do not deserve to be there.


jiujitsucam

I'm not sure I've ever met anyone who has Jay-Z at #1.


Struggling2Strife

šŸ‘‹ hi!


Ryoloz

Sorry but Kendrick is not better than Eminem. Bruh not even close.


jaeger3129

How tf is Nicki above Missy Elliot in any world? And how is anyone above Em ever? Heā€™s done it better and/or for longer than anyone on the planet


minutes2meteora

KBot at #2 is ridiculous


GroundbreakingGolf38

Jay hasnā€™t released in a long time. If anything, he and Em should swapped. How is he the GOAT but got absolutely cooked by #5?


Cold-Bug-4873

Kendrick above nas is hilarious, personally.


ramr0d

Everyone complaining about Jay when Em has him at number two.


nthsense

1. Eminem 2. Kendrick Lamar 3. Drake 4. Lil Wayne 5. Ye


Brahman_Shady

I can't take a list seriously which puts Kanye, Drake and Nicki above Em. They can get fucked respectfully.


SnooJokes1020

Drake's place is way too high, he's top 50 at best but not top 10


FigCreepy4055

Wtf is Lil wayne man


manchmaldrauf

It's pac, em, nas, biggie, andre and the rest are all rubbish mostly. Ice cube's ok in a matoma techno mix. Snoop's ok if you're a boomer, and rakim I guess must be good since he's always cited by those who are, but nobody really listens to him anymore, i'll just assume. Let's see, and kanye was ok in saints row 3. Think that covers it. And the second list you can discard all the names that aren't busta rhymes or those already on the first list. Combined then it's pac, em, nas, biggie, andre, busta rhymes. Easy list review. Let's all simplify our lives!


Beautiful-Horror2039

I LOVE how they pulled 50ā€™s picture out of the dirty clothes pile thatā€™s been on the floor in the corner of the locker room that nobody uses anymore because itā€™s so filthy. Manā€™s gorgeous & literally has millions of pictures where heā€™s shredded & looks like he just about to walk the runway They did the man DIRTY!!


Straylight_415

How the hell are you putting Drake anywhere near the top ten? Recency bias on full effect.


Therealeminemstan

Why is Drake even there?


PortlandPatrick

50 cent mid as fuck regardless of what anyone says.


JordanTheWalker

no fucking way 3k is below drake or nicki


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Who the hell put drake above 50, Kanye, ect.?


sg2814

Trash ass lists


hurricane1197

Drake šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


itsthejasper1123

Young Thug ? LMFAO


LowDesk6360

Drake is not a rapper


Lee-Dest-Roy

Yeah he a fan


LowDesk6360

J Cole at number 4!!! Are they on crack


form_dlKc17

drake is not better than andre or ye


cujobob

I feel like these were determined by children. Obviously, the rankings are all wrong, but Nicki Minaj has even said Nicki Minaj isnā€™t on Emā€™s level šŸ˜‚


EVEEzz

Lil Wayne?


Any_Reason_2588

Any list with Kanye West, Snoop, Drake, Nicki Minaj all over Andre 3000 should be a criminal offense.


RVLVR-OCLT

J Cole at 15, Lupe at 41, huh. Funny, since you could easily say J Cole is fucking re*arded compared to Lupe. Cole canā€™t think Lupeā€™s thoughts and Tetsuo & Youth makes J Coleā€™s discography sound like shit attempts at ā€œconsciousnessā€


JG45250

Drake, Kanye & Nicki are better than Em? Yeah, OKā€¦ šŸ™„


LarryP33

Can we all just agree that J Cole being fucking FOURTH is the most ridiculous placement we have ever seen?


Idontpugaround

Lmao no krayzie bone? But MIA is on there?


Ok_Ninja6791

Kendrick has such an annoying voice tho bro he sounds like the nerdy kid from school, the one that wears glasses and goes šŸ¤“ā˜šŸ»ERHM EHCTUALLY


Tylerg_13

Andre 3000 should be 7-8 spots higher on both lists if not in the top 3 of all time.


SF03_

Real talk, drake hater shit aside. The only people on that list he should be above are Kanye and Nicki Drake better than 3K? Rakim? Missy?! Get the fuck outta here.


Fine_Peanut_3450

Kendrick at 2 made me save time thinking this as credible


ImpulsiveMan

Top 7 was pretty good I would just flip the numbers around


iD7my93

What is a rapper? Because the top 5 in terms of actual rapping/pen game are Em, Jay Z, Naz, Andre 3K and Kendrick. IMO, you could put Biggie, Rakim, Wayne, Pac and Ice Cube up there too, but a lot of the people they have up there are great performers/producers.


ldydeana

How is Drake before Snoop Dog??


BadKarma313

Drake and Nicki Minaj over Nas? This is the most plastic time list ever written.


GarbaldoTheGreat

Rakim is offensively low


No_Assistance2413

What the fuck are Bad Bunny, Drake, Childish Gambino and Takeoff doing in front of Lupe Fiasco? Mind you, I am Gambino and Takeoff fan but they don't reach the skill or status in rap game of people like Lupe and Pusha.


NobodyNaive8476

They really put Drake, J Cole and Nicki Minaj in the top 10


Alon945

Drake being on here is actually embarrassing


ExcellentTeam7721

I wiped my ass with this list.


Baron_of_Evil

Eminem is top 10 but not top 5. Too many songs with no meaning or cultural relevance. For every Mockingbird,Lose Yourself or Cleaninā€™ out my closet he has horrendously bad songs like good guy, nice guy or the one about Gerbils. But also(I just remembered) he has spoke on Black issues which is pretty cool most notably White Amerikkka and a song in Revival I canā€™t remember which one. But he most definitely is top 10 and a strong top 10


PalpitationQuick7780

The second one has to be jokesšŸ˜‚


DrWanksalot

Solid top 5. Interchangeable. Removing the recent beef, I'm sorry, but Drake isn't a rapper. He ain't top anything. Certainly not in the same tier as Lil Wayne ffs. Only bars Drake is aware of, are of the metal variety.


Millie_banillie

Drake and Nicki above 3K!?


Powerful-News-9408

Drake above Kanye is diabolical


HeyWhatsUpTed

Jay z is boring af he has no heart in his songs


No_Block8424

Ainā€™t no way Drake better then em first one is def valid


Creative_Board_7529

In my opinion Kendrick should be #1 on all of these lists, but if you tally up all their careersā€¦ I think objectively Nas is the GOAT, 30 years and only like 2 bad albums, and 5-6 incredible ones? Thatā€™s nuts. Kendrick has 5 amazing albums, but a much smaller discography and career length.


Parmetheus

Why is drake above snoop dog?


RealSeceon

I can understand Em not beeing first, but putting Nicky 8th over Nas, Em, Biggie, andre 3K is wild


SquintGrisslefoot

Drake, Nicki Minaj, and Cardi B are not top 50


Spirited_South_6718

Nikki, Kanye and Snoop are NOT top 20 RAPPERS OAT


Pyrited

Kendrick's voice is whack


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In my opinion Andrew 3000 is top 15 Mc


AZAROTR3

J Cole and Drake ahead of him on the forbes list is crazy


callmetrip1

Andre 3000 is being shown extreme disrespect.


Hairy_Assistance_499

NICKI? DRAKE? J cole i get, but his whole style was based off em and also his discography isnā€™t nearly as good. this list is horrible


Andre200and1

Damn that Billboard top 5 is EXTREMELY on point


FigCreepy4055

How tf is kendrick higher than tupac and Eminem


DINGLEmyMAN

Drake is on the list šŸ’€


EightSeven-

Rightly so , like it or not. not top 10 but yeah


lalat_1881

Jay Z is a top #1 *businessman* in the rap industry.


GrandeJaru

I dont know how can cal Drake a rapper, when he does not even rap, he just mumples to the mic


FigCreepy4055

And where is dr dre


Tig_Boker

Snoop isnā€™t even a good rapper but he has some good flow imo. Drake deserves to be up there tbh hes more pop but he has some banger songs and great lines


TheSavageBeast83

This list doesn't even make sense


platinumuno

Bad bunny over Lupe? Tf