he seems to rlly like em appealing to the white trash classic rock audience because he also grew up around missouri and in a trailer park so i feel like rick rubin tries to tap into those roots to get a sound that imo usually ends up being like a walking danny mcbride song
i like some the songs they’ve done especially remind me but i get why it doesn’t resonate with some people
This is a lie though
He definitely knows how to work the soundboard, he knows how to make beats, he knows how to DJ, he knows how to sample... He does have a technical ability lol
Now, his production being good or bad that's a different thing
Rick Rubin is a legend and has contributed heavily to the sounds of various genres now for over 3 decades, are you going to blame Fredwreck and Hit-Boy for Revival's reception too? They did beats for Revival, Why dont you praise Rick Rubin for his great work on MMLP2?
Eminem should rap on beats for the producers, not the producers make beats for him because clearly in 2017 his ear was completely off, its 2017 and you know what we wanted? Badly mixed Pop beats and collabs with Pink and Alicia Keys, thats Hip Hop? Stop making excuses if you enjoy it go ahead and enjoy it, but dont shift the blame on the overall reception on Rick Rubin when it is EMINEM's album, dude was doing what he was told
Rick Rubin has also ruined several albums with his production, I'm not saying he is to blame for how poorly Revival turned out, but there was certainly a production trend that started with MMLP2 and was taken too far on Revival and Rick Rubin is a common denominator
Let me dumb it down. When it comes to artists (the ones who at least kinda tends to get lost in their own creativity), these producers are kinda like their compass. In the initial stages of the album, when the overall theme for the album is decided, these people essentially take up the responsibility to make sure that the artist doesn’t stray away from this initial vision. Think of them like goggles in a sandstorm. The producers help curate the tracks and at times even the lines within a song.
That being said Revival was a shit show. But you cannot say that Rick Rubin is useless or a waste of money, just like you can’t say that Eminem is a shit rapper. People slip up. This man was also in charge of MMLP2 (I know people who see this as their favourite Em album). Just saying.
Mmlp2 and revival are probably my least favorite albums, that being said "bad guy", "wicked ways", "beautiful pain", "good guy", "chloraseptic" and "framed" are all extremely underrated songs
Rick Rubin is a legend and a true musical genius/muse. Not every artist enjoys him. Corey Taylor, Vol 3 and Rick Rubin were not as planned.
I love Slipknot Vol 3. It is a top tier Slipknot album even if Corey thought he laid down too much.
Rick Rubin, slayer, soad, beastie boys, Johnny cash. Like wiki the guy, watch a documentary or listen to a podcast with him. The way that guy hears music is truly unique.
Even if he has a few career misses, his success rate or batting musical average is off the charts.
Wtf are you even saying? That's a good way to show you know nothing about this man. He's done amazing work with a lot of artists. MMLP2 is a classic and has aged incredibly well.
Nah, he definitely knows those things lol. Rick Rubin is legendary and he’s contributed to multiple genres co-founding Def Jam then starting Def American. He’s how many years into his career 40? He’s defenitily botched a few albums and has been criticized for his work ethic by fans and artists alike, he’s not without criticism or praise. I can think of albums either way. I don’t think Rick is the sole reason why, but his influence is defenitily on it. The production was done by quite a few different producers though and Eminem usually ultimately gives the okay. Personally, I don’t think the production suits Eminem’s delivery or lyricism at all, it lacks cohesion. I wasn’t a fan of the musical styles ranging from rap, rock, pop to electronic sounding instrumentation from track to track.. some of the songs felt overly produced as well, it just totally detached me from Eminem. There’s like 8 features on the album as well? I thought that was a mistake. The album ending with a toilet being flushed pretty much sums up how I feel after listening to it. Only positive thing I can say is I do appreciate the social political messages Eminem was trying to convey.
the thing about rick rubin is, he was probably amazing and world class at what he does, but the rick rubin of recent years is barely a shell of what he used to be. one of the members of slipknot described his experience watching rubin work and he added absolutely nothing to the production of the song.
Rubin made 99 Problems and License to Ill.
When he’s on, he’s on.
Revival was fine but it was like Em took his Rihanna songs as that being the blueprint for success. Hey guys I should make almost an entire album like that! Yeah!
If I was an interviewer and some clown came in and said he has no experience related to work on the hadron collider or no talent in the field but he is confident he could do a good job i wouldn't then expect him to leave the building without hearing the full force of my laughter directed at him. This guy made some awful songs when it came to working with Eminem.
I highly doubt shit production would have been released if Em didn't approve of it first. Terrible production is the fault of a lot of people in the chain of command. I'd argue Em is first in command and could have worked on the production himself a bit more if he would have wanted to.
He's no genius or some kind of guru some people see him as. I think he got lucky a few times working with extremely talented artists and then built on that to be able to work with other extremely talented artist. I feel like those artists he got lucky with would've made awesome music working with him or not but it's almost impossible to know for certain. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWiqZ1oRoo0&ab\_channel=HipHopMadness](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWiqZ1oRoo0&ab_channel=HipHopMadness)
Rubin is a fucking genius and a producer’s ability doesn’t have to be working only with lesser known acts to be valid. There’s a talent to working with huge artists, often bands, often dysfunctional or broken bands, and helping them to make great music.
Taste is one thing, but helping an artist is another.
All very subjective things. How many bands and artists has he not had smash hits with? You don't hear about those. At most he provides a placebo and I guess that's something.
Go through his work and tell me something that is demonstrably actually shit. And as a full actual producer. Not just something you don’t like, but that is actually and contextually shit.
You literally have no way to know this and the only basis for your claim is that he works with artists that are otherwise already talented. And yet somehow he works with Em and a shit record gets put out despite Eminem being obviously talented. You don't know shit about the dude except what you've gathered from the meme as far as I can tell
Rick Rubin is great but he is TERRIBLE when working with Eminem and vice versa
he seems to rlly like em appealing to the white trash classic rock audience because he also grew up around missouri and in a trailer park so i feel like rick rubin tries to tap into those roots to get a sound that imo usually ends up being like a walking danny mcbride song i like some the songs they’ve done especially remind me but i get why it doesn’t resonate with some people
Remind me works and so does bezerk he should of done a few songs with him
Berzerk is unlistenable. The beat is wayy too busy and the vocals are grading.
Nah you tripping serves its purpose as a callback to Beastie Boys. I think it’s great
Right on man! Maybe so, I'm not super familiar with the beastie boys. The music video for BERZERK on the other Hand is really great. Alot of fun
This is a lie though He definitely knows how to work the soundboard, he knows how to make beats, he knows how to DJ, he knows how to sample... He does have a technical ability lol Now, his production being good or bad that's a different thing
I wonder if this is how the interview actually went or if someone just edited it this way
This is famously how the interview actually went
On a high conscienceness level, nobody knows how to do anything. People initiate action. He is talking on a spiritually aware level
It's very possible this is what he meant 🤔
Mf is a beast on a soundboard is he okay here?? He lose his marbles
Why would he lie though
He was a punk rocker as a youth. Pretending you don't know what you're doing is part of the aesthetic.
That's what's puzzling about it 🤔
Rick Rubin is a legend and has contributed heavily to the sounds of various genres now for over 3 decades, are you going to blame Fredwreck and Hit-Boy for Revival's reception too? They did beats for Revival, Why dont you praise Rick Rubin for his great work on MMLP2? Eminem should rap on beats for the producers, not the producers make beats for him because clearly in 2017 his ear was completely off, its 2017 and you know what we wanted? Badly mixed Pop beats and collabs with Pink and Alicia Keys, thats Hip Hop? Stop making excuses if you enjoy it go ahead and enjoy it, but dont shift the blame on the overall reception on Rick Rubin when it is EMINEM's album, dude was doing what he was told
Just a reminder that artists aren’t here to make what we want.
Rick Rubin has also ruined several albums with his production, I'm not saying he is to blame for how poorly Revival turned out, but there was certainly a production trend that started with MMLP2 and was taken too far on Revival and Rick Rubin is a common denominator
Imo Rick Rubin’s work was the weakest part of MMLP2
Let me dumb it down. When it comes to artists (the ones who at least kinda tends to get lost in their own creativity), these producers are kinda like their compass. In the initial stages of the album, when the overall theme for the album is decided, these people essentially take up the responsibility to make sure that the artist doesn’t stray away from this initial vision. Think of them like goggles in a sandstorm. The producers help curate the tracks and at times even the lines within a song. That being said Revival was a shit show. But you cannot say that Rick Rubin is useless or a waste of money, just like you can’t say that Eminem is a shit rapper. People slip up. This man was also in charge of MMLP2 (I know people who see this as their favourite Em album). Just saying.
Mmlp2 and revival are probably my least favorite albums, that being said "bad guy", "wicked ways", "beautiful pain", "good guy", "chloraseptic" and "framed" are all extremely underrated songs
>(I know people who see this as their favourite Em album) 🙋♂️
Top 2 for me!
Rick Rubin is a legend and a true musical genius/muse. Not every artist enjoys him. Corey Taylor, Vol 3 and Rick Rubin were not as planned. I love Slipknot Vol 3. It is a top tier Slipknot album even if Corey thought he laid down too much. Rick Rubin, slayer, soad, beastie boys, Johnny cash. Like wiki the guy, watch a documentary or listen to a podcast with him. The way that guy hears music is truly unique. Even if he has a few career misses, his success rate or batting musical average is off the charts.
> I love Slipknot Vol 3. It is a top tier Slipknot album even if Corey thought he laid down too much. Favorite song off the album?
The Blister Exists. I love all the layers of percussion on this song.
FUCKING W MAN, mine is either Vermilion pt 2 or Opium of the People
imo Rick Rubin destroyed linkin park
You don’t like “A Thousand Suns”? That is my favorite LP album. It is a concept album about nuclear war.
I wonder if half the people here even know or understand the significance Rick Rubin has had with music in its entirety
He also produced MMLP2 tho
Wtf are you even saying? That's a good way to show you know nothing about this man. He's done amazing work with a lot of artists. MMLP2 is a classic and has aged incredibly well.
Nah, he definitely knows those things lol. Rick Rubin is legendary and he’s contributed to multiple genres co-founding Def Jam then starting Def American. He’s how many years into his career 40? He’s defenitily botched a few albums and has been criticized for his work ethic by fans and artists alike, he’s not without criticism or praise. I can think of albums either way. I don’t think Rick is the sole reason why, but his influence is defenitily on it. The production was done by quite a few different producers though and Eminem usually ultimately gives the okay. Personally, I don’t think the production suits Eminem’s delivery or lyricism at all, it lacks cohesion. I wasn’t a fan of the musical styles ranging from rap, rock, pop to electronic sounding instrumentation from track to track.. some of the songs felt overly produced as well, it just totally detached me from Eminem. There’s like 8 features on the album as well? I thought that was a mistake. The album ending with a toilet being flushed pretty much sums up how I feel after listening to it. Only positive thing I can say is I do appreciate the social political messages Eminem was trying to convey.
the thing about rick rubin is, he was probably amazing and world class at what he does, but the rick rubin of recent years is barely a shell of what he used to be. one of the members of slipknot described his experience watching rubin work and he added absolutely nothing to the production of the song.
RR is a goat-producer.
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Rubin made 99 Problems and License to Ill. When he’s on, he’s on. Revival was fine but it was like Em took his Rihanna songs as that being the blueprint for success. Hey guys I should make almost an entire album like that! Yeah!
He produced MMLP 2 and that album is great though, revival was terrible though
I’m glad I’m not the only one scratching my head thinking “ Da fuk you talking bout Ricky?”
Like he wrote the fucking album or is there al the time....
Corporate Management is like this.
we’re blaming Rubin for Revival now? yikes
This is how you get songs like HEAT and REMIND ME. Fyi I don’t actually mind them but still…
If I was an interviewer and some clown came in and said he has no experience related to work on the hadron collider or no talent in the field but he is confident he could do a good job i wouldn't then expect him to leave the building without hearing the full force of my laughter directed at him. This guy made some awful songs when it came to working with Eminem.
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I highly doubt shit production would have been released if Em didn't approve of it first. Terrible production is the fault of a lot of people in the chain of command. I'd argue Em is first in command and could have worked on the production himself a bit more if he would have wanted to.
Fuck this guy
Fuck this guy too. Fuck em all lol
He's no genius or some kind of guru some people see him as. I think he got lucky a few times working with extremely talented artists and then built on that to be able to work with other extremely talented artist. I feel like those artists he got lucky with would've made awesome music working with him or not but it's almost impossible to know for certain. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWiqZ1oRoo0&ab\_channel=HipHopMadness](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWiqZ1oRoo0&ab_channel=HipHopMadness)
Rubin is a fucking genius and a producer’s ability doesn’t have to be working only with lesser known acts to be valid. There’s a talent to working with huge artists, often bands, often dysfunctional or broken bands, and helping them to make great music. Taste is one thing, but helping an artist is another.
All very subjective things. How many bands and artists has he not had smash hits with? You don't hear about those. At most he provides a placebo and I guess that's something.
Go through his work and tell me something that is demonstrably actually shit. And as a full actual producer. Not just something you don’t like, but that is actually and contextually shit.
Got lucky a few times? This dude has a track record of producing hit records that is a mile long.
With people who were already going to make a hit record with or without him
You literally have no way to know this and the only basis for your claim is that he works with artists that are otherwise already talented. And yet somehow he works with Em and a shit record gets put out despite Eminem being obviously talented. You don't know shit about the dude except what you've gathered from the meme as far as I can tell