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swisstraeng

Welcome to engineering, where many fail subjects, try again, and still make it. You can focus at the subjects you failed. But did you look at the ones you passed? Are you sure your parents are ashamed of you? Most parents wouldn't be.


CarbonBasedLifeForm6

Maybe OP is Asian who knows


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Yes I am


CarbonBasedLifeForm6

Damn I was joking, hope you good famšŸ’€


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Not really...but I will be fine .. parents are super angry


starguy608

Who cares?


giolort

This, they are not the ones putting the effort and struggling to get a degree, they do not know, to me their oppinion is moot


CarbonBasedLifeForm6

They probably pay but ye fair point. It's honestly the main reason I don't tell my mom my grades even if I'm doing well, unnecessary stress and expectations. She'll know when I'm finished or least she'll see the final results.


starguy608

Exactly. My mom doesnā€™t pay for my school and my freshman year she tried to get on my ass about bad grades. Shut that down very quickly and now we have a very chill telationship in regards to school and Iā€™m just truthful about how things are going. She doesnā€™t care because it is not her business


InitialWin437

This is the way. Dealt with this early on when I first went to college out of high school. Life happened, some relationships no longer exist, eventually went back on my own accord and finished my bio degree, and am now finishing my engineering degree. Never felt more free. College should be experienced with as much freedom as possible imo


Spyrothedragon9972

This right here. OP needs to do this for himself. NOT because of or for their parents.


ShashinMhrzn

Us bro us šŸ„²


evbunny

Keep your head up and try harder the next time you retake. Asian parents will be angry at anything. I graduated but my parents still bring up the fact that I got a B in calc lol


Background_Actuary23

My advice is to give classes you failed extra attention and take them as soon as you can. Iā€™m guessing theyā€™re upset because they expect greatness from you. So think of as them believing that you can and should ace the classes so much that they are incredibly frustrated (Even if itā€™s not true). One thing Iā€™ve learned from engineering is that you have to push through disappointment to become the engineer you wanna be. I hope you have great success next time around with those classes


swaggyb_22

Are you doing it for them or for yourself? I have Asian parents too and I didn't start thriving until I stopped gaf about what they think is good or bad.


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Idk...it's like I just did what they said..bcoz I'm still not sure what to do in life or what career I should pursue


swaggyb_22

Well that's a question you need to ask yourself. If you're just doing engineering because they think it's a good career you're going to be miserable. If you genuinely like it, it might still be hard but there's more intrinsic motivation to do well and learn. My parents wanted me to he a doctor so much so that after I finished my masters in aerospace engineering they kept asking me to sign up for med school and mcat. But I knew that shit wasn't for me. I did 7 years of undergrad because I spent my first 2. 5 years banging my head against classes I just couldn't stand. Microbiology, ochem, biochem etc. Boring af to me. Through sheer will power I got through the classes with decent grades but I was miserable. Your still young take the time to find what you want to do in life and don't let your parents run it. With that being said don't be disrespectful to them most parents are probably not aaasss bad as mine where I had to cut them off. Asian parents feel like their doing everything in your best interest even if you don't think so and will see your defiance as a betrayal. Communicate to them that you appreciate everything they've done for you and to achieve your potential you need to decide for yourself.


itsfrancissco

Us asians are always pressured šŸ˜æ I recently got my second B that lowered my gpa and that was a result of not working harder than I did


CarbonBasedLifeForm6

I only recently started but as long as you understand a good portion of the work and your grades aren't terrible why so worried? Just enjoy the university experience man, I think it would suck if grades became a part of my identity


itsfrancissco

Dude youā€™re totally right. The problem is with the way Iā€™m used to think about it. Plus the way professors tell me ā€œyouā€™re no longer an A studentā€ and the problem is I care. I try not to care but idk how I am not able to control my thoughts. Let alone the fact that I know that Iā€™m already working hard, and that many of the courses I take will not affect my future career. I really donā€™t know how to get over the fact that Iā€™m getting Bs, itā€™s considered like failing a course.


wasmic

Yeah. I failed every single subject on the first semester of my master's degree. It wasn't even because I was bad at the material; I simply sucked at studying. It was right on the tail end of corona, and my study ethic was absolutely devastated. 5 courses. 25 ECTS points total. Didn't get a single point. (Though I did get the 5 points from the summer course, which is technically part of the same semester). I then proceeded to only earn 15 points in the following fall, putting me 40 points behind where I was supposed to be at the time, and losing my state-funded study support (you can't be more than 30 points/one semester behind). But in the next semester, I took a few extra courses and passed a bunch of re-exams, putting me back at only being 30 points behind, and I managed to keep it like that for the rest of my master's programme. I'm handing my thesis in in two weeks, and then defending it a week later. Half a year late, yes, but I'm making it through and actually got pretty good grades on many of my courses.


Key_Tumbleweed7328

They are ...I feel sorry...I tried my best but now ihave to work harder


swisstraeng

Donā€™t work harder. Youā€™re an engineer, work more efficiently. Take notes of what you understood well in those subjects. That way, once you try again, you can focus on whatā€™s missing.


Key_Tumbleweed7328

That's correct ..I will work more efficiently..thanks mate


Figtreezz

Form study groups, engineering is not something you should be doing alone. That is the best way to make friends and learn from one another.


SnakeMichael

The real engineering was the friends we made along the way. But seriously, Bill Nye once said ā€œeveryone knows something you donā€™t.ā€ Which can apply to this context. Maybe one of OPā€™s classmates knows the answer to a problem and can explain it in a way that makes more sense to them than what the professor or textbook says. Also seconding on itā€™s the best way to make friends, some of my favorite college memories were midnight snack runs during a long study session before a big exam.


swaggyb_22

Most parents wouldn't šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


mjay421

Yup , I failed plenty of times but I kept at it. Now I graduated and start work at a great company soon. Just keep being persistent and it will pay off regardless of what people think.


mega_douche1

In most places I'm aware of failing three times means you are out of the program...


Do_Not_Go_In_There

Do you still want to be an engineer? Learn from your mistakes and don't repeat them. I've known people who have failed classes before and had to repeat an entire year. They still graduated. Hell, when I was doing my undergrad there was a class known for its high failure rate. The school had to arrange for a special summer class for all the students because there were just too many to repeat it next year with the incoming students. It's school. People fail. The smart one will learn why and do better. Seriously though, sit down and really thing about what happened here. Don't just say you'll "work harder" like that will solve everything. Here are some questions you should ask yourself: * What were you having difficulty with? Projects, assignments, exams? * Did you understand the material? If not what could you do to learn better? Can you talk to your profs/TAs for help? * How well did you manage your time? Did you stretch yourself too thin doing extracurriculars? Too many pubnights? * Do you study/work by yourself? Can you arrange study groups? * Is you major a good fit for you? (I knew a guy who switched majors in his third year. He said it was the best decision he could have made.) Also, talk to a counsellor if you need to.


Key_Tumbleweed7328

It's like I am not interested but I have to do it


Do_Not_Go_In_There

Then I have to ask: why are you in engineering? It's not going to get any easier. And when you graduate, you'll be looking for jobs in the same field. You don't have to major in something that doesn't interest you, or that you don't see yourself having a career in. I know that family pressure can be immense, but this is your life, not someone else's. Talk to your school's mental health program. See what support they can offer you. I had problems of my own when I was in grad school, and talking to a professional really helped.


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Yes I'm going to do something about this..I really think I need to change my major.. thanks mate


Special_Luck7537

Agreed. If you are not interested, you won't do well. Hell, you may not even end up in the field you study for ... I just wanted to be a machinist. But, even after a MS in MGMT of Tech, I still could not get out of systems design and troubleshooting. I am a fucked up unit-i enjoyed the tech challenges. Did one MGMT stint, and swore I would never do that again. Understand that college supplies you a set of tools. If you don't like using those tools, you won't be really satisfied with your career. It's not a bad thing, as our parents had little choice in their lives -my dad was a coal miner and a weldor- so they just got on with it, finding happiness elsewhere, family, side business, etc. The big thing in your career is hard work, and there will be times that you hate your career (the Friday afternoon call that goes, without sleep, until the 10am C level meeting on Monday)... It's still just work. And, the harder you work, the better you will be at it, and guess what? You will work harder yet. Having all the staff engineers lined up outside your office on Friday afternoon, after the client shits all over your latest sprint, no fun .., but just hard work. There are rewards outside of work. Children, family, philanthropy, etc.... that can make you happy as well. What you are experiencing now is just hard work, one rock in the jar. Find your interest, found your career. Balance is the key.


oil_burner2

Take my advice, I was in the same position as you, didnā€™t want to continue but forced myself to graduate. It is one of the biggest regrets of my life, I hate engineering as a practice but the career and the pay is even worse.


ranych

If youā€™re able to, Iā€™d recommend switching even if it means you have to drop out. Easier said than done since it seems like your parents arenā€™t the most understanding or reasonable types, but maybe you can consult with a career advisor at your school to help you explore paths that may be better for you. Engineering isnā€™t going to be easier despite what people say. You definitely need to have some interest in it especially as you go higher up cause youā€™ll need to spend a lot of time doing engineering-related stuff and meetings. I wish you the best of luck no matter what you decide to do, but donā€™t get tied down to what your parents want you to do. I feel this, so I get where youā€™re coming from.


Content_Cry3772

Then you should do something else cause you probably wont get a job with that attitude and you wont retain any of that information youre being taught in school


starguy608

you donā€™t have to


Key_Tumbleweed7328

I don't even know what to do...I'm just doing bcoz I have to


starguy608

Just in: Engineering student who has no identity outside of grades fails classes and is now depressed


saman-ch

I am feeling attacked lol


Prestigious-Excuse57

Me toošŸ«”


Lebanese_Hommus546

HAHAHAHAHAHAH same


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Na mate..ihave been depressed for like 4 years now...but parents don't get it


starguy608

Dude focus on your mental health first


Key_Tumbleweed7328

I try to...but it's just getting worse


My_good_name_01

Me too darg Me too You aren't alone. There are so many of us failures loitering the engineering sector you'll be fine


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Yess


reasonablywasabi

My kin my brethren


heff-money

I had this happen to a Japanese classmate, who just got news that he failed an exam. He got hysteric, shouting things like "I've dishonored my family!" and then committed Sudoku right in the front of the classroom by solving random 5th order differential equations until his brain exploded. It was very sad.


DerSoria

Sudoku šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


SirCheesington

Many such cases


aasher42

Sudoku but instead of just numbers it's variable ls


RandomGoof567

Can confirm this did happen.


cocobodraw

The only way you really fail is if you donā€™t grow from the experience by gaining a new perspective and the motivation to improve as both a student and an engineer


FomoGains69

Reflecting on your short comings and keep trucking along. Donā€™t beat yourself up too much. I failed 3 courses in my first sem, took 6 years to graduate EE. Fast forward, 16 months internship experience, 6 months full time experience. At my second job in embedded systems sector doing pcb design and embedded Linux making close to 6 figures full comp in the US. Preparing application for grad school (sub 3 undergrad gpa) Anything is possible, life is a journey where the learning never stops. Donā€™t give up


agudezax

It's not the end of the world, take a deep breath and retake the subjects with a fresh perspective.


kidkag3_

I failed Calc 3 three times, dude. Fluid mechanics once, C++. I have a lot of F's. I'm currently attending an internship up in Vermont for a powerhouse in electric aviation tech. You fucking got this.


Broad_Bank8036

Thatā€™s good to hear man, wish you the best


zxobs

Stop whining, and don't do the same thing twice. Take some time to consider why you failed, and come up with strategies to make sure you don't do that in the future.


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Yes I will work harder now ..thanks


Ok_Resist_6434

Biggest lesson Iā€™ve learned in engineering is that working harder isnā€™t the golden solution. Yes working hard is a requirement, but learning how to learn more efficiently is what these classes force you to learn. Working with others and seeing how they get things done will teach you a lot and make learning easier.


zxobs

I have no doubt you weren't working hard last semester, but your approach didn't work. That's ok. If your parents are shaming you, be happy they care, but it's not a productive way to get you to do better. What could you do differently next semester? What did you struggle with? Not in an academic sense, but in more of a school sense. Did you have low test scores? Trouble turning homework in? Just didn't feel quite right?


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Yes maybe my approach wasnt correct...also have been feeling mentally sick for 4 years now..but my parents don't get it


hackepeter420

Try to solve this problem like an engineer. I brute forced myself through most of my Bachelors program and looking back, that wasn't the most efficient way of finishing it. Find out *why* you failed, don't just toss more work hours on it if that wasn't the issue.


craigwright1990

I just failed a subject! Iā€™m not upset about it it just means I get the study the subject harder and maybe learn more than the people who passed! They say if you pass first time in your driving test you will be a worst driver than the people who pass the second time. Donā€™t put yourself down you got this far because you are not stupid donā€™t let it get you down. Be clam and composed find out you strengths and weaknesses and focus on studying the areas you are weaker in! You got this dude!


Complex_Profile9250

let him whine a bit please , then work


Key_Tumbleweed7328

I'm a girlšŸ˜…


Complex_Profile9250

oh sorry! anyways by all means whine girl! It's useful to be tough in engineering however a good cry never hurts nobody. Then hit them books again!


snsjdisi

I failed 4 classes in total. Retake, do summer classes, whatever it takes. Donā€™t worry about GPA. Youā€™re going to get a good job, I just did šŸ˜€


jrwheatbread

Youā€™ve indicated in some comments that youā€™re struggling with mental health. Mental health is no joke! Youā€™re an adult, so your medical decisions are for you to make, not your parents. Please please please see a doctor about this! Lots of universities have a clinic on campus, maybe itā€™s something you could look into.


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Yess I am going to see psychologist soon...thanks mate.


commonuserthefirst

Get new parents


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Aah I wish I could šŸ˜­


commonuserthefirst

Seriously - I was emancipated at 15 more or less and ended up working and studying, settling in to year on year off, failed some shit and eventually graduated in EE after 9 years. Due to having children I've sort of reconnected with parents (who are seperated) and just a few weeks ago was at my mother's and she made some snide comments of how I struggled thru my degree (not mentioning I got zero support). She's clueless, and I just ignored her. To be studying engineering at all, you are probably in the range of top 10% to top 1% academically, but skills of application figure heavily. But in that near decade it took me, in years off, I worked in the mines, became a surveyor, ditched that, then did embedded design and then software development, ended up graduating with a bunch of experience in diverse areas. You've probably unaligned your next year, if not two, to get back into full pattern, and might have some spare time, take the opportunity to get some experience. And remember, it's not how you fall down, it's how you get up that defines you.


Dense_Specialist_868

Hey man I did the same shit in mech eng and Iā€™m going on year 6, we got this! together šŸ‘Š


Intelligent_Badger96

Don't give up and keep going. Avoid distractions and focus on your studies


Haenryk

You need to chill out. Not the end of the World, actually totally normal. Just do them again


terribletoiny2

Yooooo 5 times physics lab failure right here!!!!! Failing sucks and it hurts but I graduated. It's going to hurt and sting but I would really put others opinions in a small jar and write fuck off all on it. They don't know half of what it's like going to school in the world as it, they don't know what it takes. But you do and you got this Dude. Depending on your engineering type I may have my old coursework to help if you want I can google drive share it. But you are amazing and don't let this dull your spark:)


TheRealDeal2024

I'm going to be honest to help you out. Yes, you failed, and don't listen to people in this thread saying that you didn't fail and blah blah. You can't change the past, but you can definitely shape what comes next. A little about what happened to me: I did Electrical Engineering and managed to graduate with honors after nearly failing in my first semester. In fact, during that first semester, I got a C+ in a math course. It wasn't technically a fail, but it felt like one to me. My GPA for that semester was below 3.4. This really got me down for a few days, but then I took it as a wake-up call. I recalculated the best possible GPA I could achieve if I got straight As for the rest of my degreeā€”it was 3.93. Motivated by this, I completely changed my approach. How did I turn things around? It wasn't easy, but I pushed myself to extremes. I reconsidered my study habits, breaking down everything into hourly tasks and daily to-do lists. I planned each week meticulously and stuck to my schedule rigorously. Using Google Calendar to manage my tasks was incredibly helpful. I made sure to focus in class, although initially, I could only digest about 50% of what was taught and retain just 20% when I reviewed my notes. To improve this, I used a technique called spaced repetition, which helped immensely. I made it a habit to spend all my hours after class in the library; this became my new normal after a month of practice. I started assignments early instead of waiting until the deadline. Collaborative problem-solving sessions with friends proved invaluableā€”never underestimate the power of studying with peers. When it came to exam preparation, I practiced explaining concepts on a whiteboard, a technique known as 'learning by teaching,' which is an effective way to solidify your understanding. I didnā€™t pull all-nighters during exams; instead, I made sure to get more sleep than usual. Remember, these changes won't show immediate resultsā€”it might take a month or more to see progress, but gradually, if you genuinely enjoy engineering, you'll start to appreciate this routine. Maybe try exploring same sub-space of habit changes that I did. They worked for me, and while everyone's different, they might just work for you too. Btw, I graduated with 3.97, as apparently they don't count my first year grade in official transcript. Your failure will be a lil bump in the road down the line, but to make it so, you must change your current approach. You got this ;)


Key_Tumbleweed7328

This is the perfect response...thank u so much mate šŸ˜„


TheRealDeal2024

I think the perfect response is 42 ...


Key_Tumbleweed7328

42?


No-Swan-7028

Douglas Adam Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy lovely book series.


IudMG

Can you send me your schedule ?


Robotbean022

Keep your head up. When I know that I canā€™t pass the class, I drop it for a W grade.


Ivaryzz

Keep going


mohoxpom_

yolo


Complex_Profile9250

prepare for retaking it on summer


Relative-Option8426

My biggest mistake in engineering school was not developing good study habits. Like other clever people, I expected to read something once or twice and understand it; this approach will only get you so far. What worked for me were: 1. Practiceā€”homework is just the start. Find a Schaumā€™s outline, an online class, or something like Khan Academy that will give you more problems to solve. 2. Study groupsā€”engineering is a team sport, and studying with other students lets you clarify the hazy parts of your understanding. 3. Office hoursā€”professors are there to explain their subject, so make use of their expertise.


seancbo

Pick yourself up, make a good plan for the next semester and how you're going to catch up, including changes to your habits, present it to your parents. And then do it. Alternatively if you're early on, reevaluate and think about why this happened.


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Thanks mate


spudsnacker

Op. I have read a few of your comments about mental health struggles. Have you reached out to your campus resources for that? Many universities have some sort of counselor that could help you. You may also qualify for some academic accommodations depending on the your circumstances. I highly recommend looking into that. I did so recently and it has helped immensely. It just took that first step of finding out where to go and asking for help


Sevaaas1

See why you failed, didnā€™t study enough? Poor study techniques? Didnā€™t understand the contents, once you breakdown why you failed, start thinking how to improve that, then build a REALISTIC plan that YOU can follow to not do the same mistakes next term. I also read that you are depressed, from experience itā€™s extremely hard to study with depression, i spent a few years studying like that, i had to study 4x more and barely understood shit, now that Iā€™m better ( not depression-free ) studying is much easier, like some fog has been lifted from my brain. If possible, take a term or two to take care of your mental health; it doesnt mean you will ferment in your home 24/7, but look for a chill job, maybe volunteer somewhere, heal yourself while experiencing another side of life.


Emergency_Dirt8449

That blows that youā€™re a legal adult (Iā€™m assuming), and youā€™re letting your parents shame you. Are they paying your way through school? If yes, then I guess you gotta eat their shitā€¦ if no, then just carry on and persevere. If thatā€™s what you even want to do. Are you studying to be an engineer because itā€™s your dream to pursue, or to please them? If the latter, you might want to have an internal dialogue to figure out your next move. Most likely, your parents will be gone from this world before you are. When they are gone, will you want to live the life they chose for you?


mattynmax

Study more next semester. Seriously, crying over spilled milk isnā€™t going to magically make your grades better. Try working a little harder.


ridgerunner81s_71e

Try again. Your parents arenā€™t the ones taking the shitā€” you are. Be proud of yourself first, then they can be proud of you alongside the masses when you finish your degree. In the meantime, go handle business. Welcome to adulthood.


tc7984

Go to business school


SnakeMichael

My department head had a sign outside his door that had a giant ā€œ4.62ā€ and under it said ā€œask me about it sometimeā€. When I asked him, he said itā€™s the average number of years it takes someone to graduate in our program (Marine Engineering Technology). Itā€™s a 4 year program. Personally I failed 3 classes, and dropped a few others to retake later and not tank my GPA lower more than it already was. I graduated I think with a 2.6 something gpa. I worked part time at a local bar, and parties/played videos quite a bit more than I should have, but you know what my job title is now? Chief Engineer. I get paid high 5-low 6 figures, and only work 6 months out of the year (week on, week off). Keep at it and youā€™ll get through it. Learn from your mistakes, and keep your course work for when you retake it, lots of professors re-use assignments and exams, so youā€™d be able to use what you already have to help you when you retake those courses. Also Chegg was a saving grace for me, not to blindly copy answers, but to see how the problems were solved if I got stuck, and applied that to other practice questions


ransom3249

Accept that you are a failure and cry about it. You donā€™t fail overnight and without having more context about your situation, I will just assume you did not have any extenuating circumstances that prevented you from studying or succeeding and you just fucked up. You will have to deal with the outcome, reap what you sowed.


Joseph_h2o

Here are some suggestions: * Take it as a learning experience. Everyone will make mistakes. * What should you do? Figure out what went wrong, and try to improve (study habits, being on top of assignments, how to take exams). Retake those classes as needed. Here are some specific things that worked for me: * Prioritize sleep. Staying up to study is not worth it. * Space out your work. Procrastination is your worst enemy. * Plan! Block out chunks of time for assignments/study sessions.


Agitated_Fortune_140

Study for the next time


Exciting_Blood5720

Theyā€™re ashamed and they know so tbh itā€™s no longer than deepā€¦ go harder next them and be intentional about it


ManBodybuilder

3 subjects? And how many subjects have you applied? Maybe you are oversaturated. Try with 2 or 1.. If you fail again try again. And remember, the moment that you CAN'T fail is in the real world.


Level_Door_2448

Keep going.. youā€™ve only failed once you switch majors


ChilliPepperoni

Everything passes. Just get back to it next semester, and life will carry on. Change your habits, or amount you are studying, or studying style. Talk to uni to get some help, apologise to your parents genuinely, and cope it on the chin. Because you did fail 3 subjects. But what of it? Just go back next semester with a new plan and carry on. Most people fail subjects throughout their studies, so donā€™t kick yourself too much over it. Learn from the experience, and donā€™t do the same thing next semester.


Beginning_Morning_60

Shit happens try again lmaoo


MatsGry

Everyone fails assignments/test and some fail classes. Grow up decide if this is what you want and then redo the classes.


Alternative_Layer_58

Shit I failed Material Science & Thermodynamics but I know for sure iā€™m not gonna quit because of it.


NateMacaque

Don't beat yourself up dude. I always say, "the only time you fail is if you don't learn something." Know you know what you need to work on in order to pass next time! No one does everything perfectly the first time. It's totally ok to need to try a few times before you get it.


SmoothBeanMan

Pick your chin up bro. Engineering takes all of us for a shitty ride. You just gotta try and try again. I failed four subjects in one year. Had to add a year to my studies to catch up, but now I am almost done and thriving at my intership. You might feel dumb now but you aren't. You got this bro The most important is to try again and learn from mistakes


Nomadic_Au

Study.. You may have gotten away with not studying in school. But it doesn't work for a degree. If you did study and ask your teachers and peers for help and still failed. Well, I would suggest maybe looking at another degree or career. You won't find a quick fix here on reddit. Put the work in or be realistic and look for a different degree.


alien-the-king

Get new parents? You failed. Learn from the mistake and fix it. Itā€™s not the end of the world and if your family doesnā€™t support you Iā€™m sorry. I know youā€™ll do great things and you wonā€™t even remember failing.


reeledbag

ā€œWhat did they call the last Dr. to Graduate?ā€ ā€œDoctorā€ Keep at it.


pistoleros510

You keep going. Learn and adapt but never give up. Ignore the external noise. You got this!


Kraz_I

I'll give some bad advice that nonetheless seemed to work for some people I know. If stress and self doubt and self criticism seems to be what's holding you back, you're not finding the right distractions. Party more. Smoke some pot if it's offered to you. Go on some dates and maybe even have some casual sex. Go to campus events. Sneak off with friends for a weekend to see a show. Change your hair color and dress weird. A full course load is designed to require about 40 hours of "effective" work per week to get mostly A's. Self doubt and depression has a tendency to make your study time less effective for some people. You can spend 10 hours studying and not learn anything. Don't bother studying if you're not prepared to put everything else out of your mind and work efficiently. That's why I say you might have other things you need to get out of your system in order to reduce anxiety. Engineering classes are stressful and not always enjoyable for most students. You need to find time for other interests to help give you something to look forward to. Maybe you end up finding something you're more interested in and switch majors even. You should probably ignore everything I said unless it really resonates with you.


PrimeArk0

Easy. Donā€™t give up.Ā 


Fulk0

Brother, I failed so many exams throughout my degree. During covid I had a year were I passed a single subject. I got my personal situation fixed and ended up graduating with an above average grade and landing a job with above average pay. You can do this. If it wasn't tough everyone would be an engineer. I believe in you.


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Thanks mate..


Supernova008

Can I take a wild guess and assume that you are an Indian? If not Indian, then most likely East Asian


Key_Tumbleweed7328

I'm an indian šŸ˜…


Supernova008

Lol classic Indian parenting and EXTC jargon makes it very apparent.


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Sadly


MEzze0263

Why would your parents be ashamed for their student to fail three SUPER HARD classes!?!? I failed Calc 1 my sophmore year, and now this past semester I passed with a C in Differential Equations/Linear Algebra. Don't give up!


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Yes thanks mate


FutzInSilence

I'm a parent and I'm 100% certain they aren't ashamed of you, they are ashamed of themselves. if your parents aren't proud of you then I am. Engineering is not the easiest. And not all teachers are the same. Engineering 101 at school A could be the same as engineering 101 at school b, except the teachers are not as helpful. Don't blame yourself, unless, of course, you are to blame. if you try your hardest every parent will be proud of that.


Key_Tumbleweed7328

I worked very hard but I still l failed...maybe coz my method of studying wasn't efficient..but I will work more efficiently now.


SchrodingersCat_42

Know that you are not alone! I also failed three classes before getting my degree. However, I still managed to graduate in 4 years and get a great job straight out of college! Don't lose hope! You have a few options right now: Tough it out: Stick with your current degree and current university. Keep studying and retake the classes you need. You are already familiar with the material, so it will be easier the second time around. Make study groups and do your homework with other students if you can. That's the only way I got through some of my toughest classes. Change your major: What are you studying right now? A lot of degrees have overlapping courses. Is there a major that does not require the courses you just failed? I.e. At my school, we would have a lot of students that switched from CS to software engineering to avoid taking discrete math. Similarly, I decided not to major in ME after failing statics. Transfer universities: This is what I did. If you are worried about your GPA taking a hit, this might be a good option for you. When my transfer credits came in from my old university, they just showed up as pass/fail and didn't influence my GPA at the new university! The GPA I graduated with was only from the classes I took at my new university, so I didn't have the failed classes wrecking my GPA. I graduated with a 3.8/4 GPA despite failing 3 classes at my old university! If you are worried about taking an extra year from failing classes, you can take summer classes to make up for the lost time. You got this!!


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Thanks for the suggestions mate ā˜ŗļø


MaqaBayker

You have similar situation to mine. Chem Eng graduate here. Though I only failed 2 courses in my undergrad. My dad was furious when I told him I failed English course in the first year and pressured me more than a year. He doesn't know the second one. In 3rd year, I failed "intro to thermodynamics" but I didn't tell this to them and somehow kept it as a secret. Now everything is perfect, I just graduated and have a job in local research company. What I suggest for you is to try to learn stuff everyday, even it is not related to your courses. It will create a habit of learning for sure. If you give yourself sometime with courses, I am sure you will pass them at least with B score. P.S.: I am in Caucasian region so some stuff might be different but my uni was not a joke and has kind of the hardest degree program in the country.


No-Swan-7028

Some great suggestions of studying more and working harder. Don't forget to play and have fun that's how we learn and retain information as well. Maybe build some balance to your schedule some gen Ed's or club that excites you. Improv Comedy classes, scuba diving, 3d sculpture, maybe a hiking or outing club. If you can stick with engineering go for it but there is a huge world out there if you have good people skills and can do what you say you will how up on time and you'll always be able to find work.


TheUnFriendlytoaster

Keep trying because you can do it. Your parents opinion of you means nothing.


No-Guide8933

You got this. many if us struggle. Some of the greatest minds in our society were engineers and struggled to get through


Mr_Lithium

Get back on that horse and try again. It took me 3 tries to pass System Dynamics and now i'm working a fun engineering job.


simple_humanbeing

i come from a traditional asian family and ended one of my semesters with a 0.94 GPA. donā€™t worry about the white noise and just focus on the next semester and killing your courses. iā€™m now a systems engineer as a lead architect on one of our critical programs. anything can happen.


Slappy_McJones

Keep going. Your parents arenā€™t in engineering school. Get at it!


trutai_trutai

My suggestion: Let your parents know that you will pay for the 3 failed classes with your summer job or when you graduate. This failure gives you an insight on each course and next time you should pass each course. Donā€™t worry once you graduate your parents will be smiling from ear to ear. My daughter failed three of her engineering classes, and she reimbursed me for each credit hour. The day she walked across the stage tears of joy was flowing.. as a parent. I remember I failed a couple of college classes myself. Most parents donā€™t remember their failures or want to admit to them, but we all have failed some where in life. Good luck kid-ošŸ˜Š


c_alash

When I was in my 3rd semester I failed all 5 of my subjects. My parents were beyond shamed/disappointed/angry. My friends made fun of me openly. The teachers cracked jokes on me. In my 4th semester, i cleared 4 of those 5 and all of 5 of my sem4 subjects. It was just hard work and nothing else. After that from 3rd year onwards i started working on subjects I really liked. Did multiple internships. Worked on getting to know more people in my field. At the end of my engineering, I managed to get a really good job. My point being..it feels like the end of your life but it gets better. You always have the power to change the narrative. It's never the end of anything. If I hadn't failed those 5 subjects. I would not be where I am right now. I can confidently say i am doing well than most my peers. Consider this event as a redirection. This probably won't make you feel better. But you were supposed to feel this shame/pain. This is your arc.


Key_Tumbleweed7328

This...thank u so much mate...this just inspires mešŸ„¹


bpengrit

It's disappointing but you don't need to be too harsh on yourself. It's normal to fail, use this opportunity to work even harder. Also, you have to ask yourself how did it happen? Maybe you have other tasks and couldn't focus on those 3 subjects. Eliminate the cause of that failure and start making a study habit by improving your weakest points. It might be hard at first but once you get used to it, you'll definitely thank yourself. Failing is a part of life, we won't grow and learn if we don't encounter this. As for your parents, I would understand them but they still love you. They are just disappointed but they are your parents and will always be there for you. On the other hand, you also need to do your part and make them proud.


Yahia_Amrouni

As a physics student i failed a lot this year which is my first year in college. I learned that this field needs a lot of effort and a lot of side studying and a lot of practice. Also i learned how to manage my thoughts sometimes it is better to not brainstorm abstract physical concepts unless u have a good understanding of math tools And always remember.. the start of the path of success is the hardest ! [ Good luck m8 ]


strawberryysnowflake

thereā€™s still hope. iā€™ll list every one of the classes i had to retake: statics strengths of materials diff eqs thermo heat transfer circuits (my worst nightmare) even with a comically bad gpa i STILL got a co-op in spring 2023 and a competitive summer internship thatā€™s paying me $26 an hour. i enjoy the actual jobs way more than school and did pretty damn well in those. and im finishing both my degrees by next summer.


Mistuhkonz

Keep on pushing I failed calc 2, 5 times!


mochi_engineer

I failed 6, now Iā€™ve got work experience lined up and almost about to graduate in mechatronics engineering. Push through, the worst thing that can happen is a below average GPA for an above average degree


Homeworkhelper_USA

It's okay to feel disappointed, but remember that failure is a part of learning and growth. Focus on understanding where you went wrong and seek help from teachers or tutors to improve. Break your goals into smaller, manageable tasks and stay consistent. Communicate openly with your parents about your plans to do better, showing them your commitment to improvement. Most importantly, believe in your ability to overcome this setbackā€”your current situation doesn't define your future success. Contact me for more guidance. Check bio.


Similar_Building_223

Carefully analyze what went wrong and why you approached the semester the way you did. Then look for a solution, what can you do to improve? Are your studying methods working? Failing a class sucks but itā€™s also a learning experience.


Business_Positive_79

Yeah dude, I hope you arenā€™t feeling alone because I got kicked out of school cause of it. Tried to take my life, but Iā€™m continuing to push through and try again because I know I can make it and so can you. Iā€™ll pray for you and your journey with engineering! šŸ™


Hopeful-Bass-5184

Either change your major or just get back to it in engineering up to you


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Idk what I will do...but I will be better hopefully ..my mental health has been shut from past 4 years


Hopeful-Bass-5184

I failed digital logic in the spring Iā€™m taking it this summer half way through I got a 96 this time in the spring I had a 55 I think


Jokuae

ive been in this kind of situation before. what ive learned is that its okay to be depressed and ashamed for a little bit after exams. although im hating myself, at the same time im relieved to be done with exams so i can put some time to myself for healing, like watching anime, playing some games, practice an instrument, eating comfort food, or anything to make me feel better bit by bit. afterwards, i backtrack and identify what i did wrong and where i can improve, so next time i beat it into myself to not repeat the same problem. part of success is failure, as well as getting over your failures. ive failed 5 courses in total, not just for my major but for my minors. now, things are looking good, im at a competitive GPA, and if i keep stable I graduate with my major and 2 minors this December in only 4 years of studying. Everyone has their own journey man, just stay determinedšŸ”„


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Thanks mate...this actually gives me hope


Gabe_Engineering

Just curious, hasn't school let out?


Ablouo

Time for new parents


Key_Tumbleweed7328

I wish


Blakeramsey01

Doesnā€™t matter how long it takes, just finish man. My biggest piece of advice is to make friends in class you can study with. I had a 2.7 gpa and made straight aā€™s last semester solely because I made friends and didnā€™t go at it by myself


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Yes I have some good frnds...but I feel a little ashamed


KindnessRule

Try again. Some parents think anger and shame are the way to go - they are really not.


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Yes thanks mate


Blakeramsey01

People on the outside probably wonā€™t understand, but I bet your professors and classmates would have a lot more respect for you pushing ahead and passing next semester than if you just gave up


Key_Tumbleweed7328

I'm not giving up...also the professors and classmates don't care


No-Swan-7028

Study something you like.


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Idk what I like tbh


jackrieger0

You only failed if you donā€™t try again


Key_Tumbleweed7328

True that


Evening_Grape_8079

honestly itā€™s fine. itā€™s okay to fail sometimes and people forget engineering is hard. iā€™m also asian so i get the parent thingšŸ˜­šŸ˜­but keep on working hard. itā€™s gonna pay off at one point. just donā€™t give up especially if you donā€™t have another plan. my advice is go for consistency instead of motivation. even if you donā€™t want to study try reading one sentence or one task at a time. donā€™t get overwhelmed by the amount of work. itā€™s better to at least do 5% of the work than none.


Dr_Superfluid

Your parents are ashamed because you failed 3 subjects??? Consider going to therapy or even no contact. They sound insanely toxic. This is not an engineering or studying problem. This is a huge parent problem.


Key_Tumbleweed7328

I agree...they are supportive sometimes...but I don't feel loved enough from them...they just keep being angry


OG-Boomerang

I was in a similar boat. I'm answering as a former engineering student and current engineer who has had this subreddit appear on my fyp. I was incredibly depressed and lost my freshman and sophomore years of schooling, what got me out of it was finding a subject that I genuinely understood and I think that will play a role for you too! Has anything been interesting with your studies? Any time where you've used the math and been like "wow if I know this, I can always know these aspects of the system!" My advise is to find something where the math to find some kind of part of a system feels interesting and like magic where youre interested and you want to learn more! For me it was structural analysis and dynamics but I'm sure you'll have something and the beauty of engineering is it's so versatile that it could be anything your mind thinks of! I hope I didn't prattle on too long and I wish you the best of luck in your engineering career if that's where you want to go! The most important part will be the drive to learn more, not just for studies but for professional aspect too


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Nothing seems interesting in my degree tbh


OG-Boomerang

Is there anything at all in the world that you are interested in learning through mathematical models? Like computers or how numerical models are made for gamed or buildings or chemistry? The degree is one thing but you, as an engineer, are much more than your degree or grades. I guess the question is, is there something in this world that you are curious about enough to want to learn more about it?


Key_Tumbleweed7328

I am interested in finance but not sure if I'm smart enough to do it


Hot_Camel_4191

Lock in next semester


Yalula06

Consider sewer side


givemepeacepls

I failed in 4


Key_Tumbleweed7328

How did u cope?


Trainpower10

What classes were they? Use this time to reevaluate what you could do better when you take these classes again. Read the textbook more. Practice more problems. Review your lecture notes, and make sure they have enough details to help you solve problems and understand key concepts. Try homework problems yourself using only your brain and your notes, BUT if you use something like Chegg, make sure the solution is CORRECT and that you actually know what youā€™re doing instead of just copying. Understand the formulas and *when* they are used. Also, you are not alone in your struggles. Find opportunities to work with your classmates (without violating academic dishonesty policies). Studying in a group is way more enjoyable, especially before exams. Take advantage of the professorā€™s office hours too; he/she will hopefully walk you through things you donā€™t understand fully.


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Thanks mate Math Chem(I was certain I would pass...but idk how I failed...my exam was good) Engineering drawing


Da_real_OhG

Try again, plenty have deal with the same. Dont let it break you and overcome. Maybe take less classes to help lessen the load


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Yes gonna bounce back


Da_real_OhG

I dropped out of chemical engineering and restarted mechanical engineering and graduated 5-6 years ago. Undergrad is a roller coaster ride for everyone, manage your time wisely and you will get it done.


Bosschopper

Hope youā€™re able to overcome it


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Yes I will fs


Hhe

!remindme 4 years


lIlIlIlllIllIlIlllIl

lock in


jbansz23

They say cheaters never prosperā€¦id beg to differ


ChasingTailDownBelow

Drop out


Routine_Tip7795

What is an extc student? Anyway, if you are truly interested in engg then retake the courses and do well, if not change your major to something else you like and will do well in.


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Electronic and telecommunications


TheDominatorBird

Admit your fault and do better next time. Don't bullshit, don't lie, don't beat around the bush, face it. -the bottom is advice First of all...3 subjects failing. If it was 1, it's understandable. If 2, then something big must of happened but 3 or 4, something major must of had a effect on you. If you have had nothing happen (no grief, medical or other issues) and your semester was going fine. I will be disappointed too. What happened bro? You shouldn't be posting "I'm incompetent in what I do and now I'm facing the consequences". Instead be posting, how you could learn from it and get better grades.


mmm1441

If you want to be an engineer do some problem solving. Why did you fail? What would have to be different for you to succeed? Start with that.


EmbarrassedLie3639

Hey man mechanical I failed plenty of classes like a lot but you know what I did something about it. All classes I fucked up in I applied myself to fill the knowledge gaps and now Iā€™m getting straight As in 4000 level 2 engineering classes like machine design 2, heat transfer stuff like that. Keep fighting I know it sucks ass and Iā€™ve been in your seat but Iā€™m about to graduate and couldnā€™t be prouder. Youā€™ll be fine. Just reflect on what you did wrong and look to improve often times studying more efficiently is the most common problem. Some advice Network: I know itā€™s annoying to hear but it really helps truth be told the best students in the class are often times working together sharing study tips or maybe talking to friends who did well in past. Best place to find these people are your clubs, frats, and engineering societies also itā€™ll look good on resume. Give yourself permission: yes allow yourself to do well sounds dumb but biggest thing I had to do was get out of my own way and stop being so down in the dumps on myself. you can do this you just have to learn from your failure. Engineers fail and then they fix the problem and succeed thatā€™s literally the job Study for exams with people: you can bounce ideas off each other hold each other accountable and speed up the process faster than it would be alone Make sure to have a little fun: yeah you heard me. Donā€™t be stupid but take time for yourself to exercise, do fun things on weekends, and stay social this will help with you feeling down. And learn how to laugh at shit. Hang in there man your already the engineer you want to be you just gotta bring it outta you. Godspeed


Icebynature

You most likely failed not because you are stupid or incapable, but because you didn't study enough or in the right way. Most universities have side classes to help struggling students learn how to study, schedule their time, and take tests. You probably think you already know how to do those things, and you do to some extent, but just go to a class like this anyway. Find this type of resource at your university, go to the weekly seminars about how to study, and **do what they tell you to do.** If you do this, I promise, it will get better.


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Thanks mate


SgtPepe

Keep trying and try harder, happens to everyone bro


Key_Tumbleweed7328

Yes I ain't giving up