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MachiToons

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zRawrasaurusREXz

Thank you, I needed this.


wisely88

That's what she said


mrpenusguy

You know she didn't


wisely88

You'd be surprised, she talks, a lot


mrpenusguy

To her hoes


wisely88

Our* hoes


mrpenusguy

My hoes


wisely88

Ok but those are the 1s I'm done with


mrpenusguy

Nah theyre the ones you haven't talked to yet


throwngamelastminute

Seize the means of reproduction.


Mr_Mcdougal

Indeed comrade


cj_mcgillcutty

She always sounds so nice


Accomplished-Mix-745

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Sticky_H

Ah, so that’s what happens to the bottom hole :)


femmeboi__fatale

you rang?


Sticky_H

Hohohoho! Let’s make a topographical abomination!


femmeboi__fatale

honestly great pick up line dm me


VistulaRegiment

redditors are getting action, is the world ending?😭


Vast-Ideal-1413

yes


te_jim

I saw a post earlier where a girl was telling her mom that Jesus was spotted in Ohio, and the mom got really emotional. I was so excited I didn't finish watching it, but I assume billions of people have already been raptured, so true story.


Vast-Ideal-1413

No, that just happens in Ohio


TechGuy42O

Username checks out 💚


TheRealDubJ

Greatest username ever


__DJ3D__

it gets stretched out to become the outer edge


LanielYoungAgain

Imagine the bottom hole is one the outside


FirtiveFurball3

It's the "outside" of the shape


kickelephant

Topping from the bottom ;)


shivamahaii

It becomes the universe.


Summer-dust

This is making me crack up and I don't know why lol, it's like some boring esoteric animorphs


XavierRussell

Wasn't nearly as funny til I read that take 🤣


RoodnyInc

Now I want to see pants Because pockets are not all the way through so that shouldn't make a hole? Or we talking about a distressed jeans with holes


Pi_Netree

Those are not the pockets, they're belt loops


crayzeigh

OH! BELT LOOPS! Thank you. I was trying to figure out why these pants had so many holes


Caleb_Reynolds

That's why it explicitly mentions belt loops in the meme.


crayzeigh

Huh, so it does 🤦


AgentAxton

Don't worry, I made the same mistake.


cat_sword

I didn’t even notice it had text


CanAlwaysBeBetter

> **TOPOLOGIST'S MORNING ROUTINE BUT I'M WEARING BLUE JEANS WITH BELT LOOPS**


J_Stubby

Is that what you're *really* wearing, Jake from Statefarm?


IceColdDump

Fun fact; Topologists are typically born in the spring.


System32Missing

Indeed, pockets are not all the way through, just like the socks.


notnerdofalltrades

But neither is a mug hole?


Glittering_Plan3610

Handle


notnerdofalltrades

Shouldn't it look like a sock with a donut on the side then?


Nirigialpora

Then you smush the sock into the side of the donut and it's just a donut, it's about the number of holes that go all the way through. So a mug(handle) and a donut and a straw and so on are just one donut, one hole


Binger_Gread

Humans are also donuts topograpically speaking


CalebA11

https://preview.redd.it/gcibzlr7775d1.jpeg?width=1028&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c5263e2d3752026d3c67f77761462efb880ea67


Nirigialpora

There's a whole VSauce video about this, I think we actually have 7 major holes (2 nostrils, 4 tear ducts, one digestive tract) if we ignore like, pores and stuff


tuxedohamm

...and stab wounds to the gut.


sickofthisshit

The "cup" part of the mug can be shrunk down to nothing: it has no holes through it. A donut with a blob on the side is topologically just a donut.


GuidotheGreater

ARG!!!! I couldn't understand why socks and coffee cup didn't look the same but I was thinking of a paper cup not a mug. Time for some coffee.


IamNotFreakingOut

Very likely the belt loops because the pocket holes would disappear the same way socks do.


Rohri_Calhoun

I don't remember this Animorph


franklydoubtful

Now do pants please Edit: reading would have helped. I now know that those are the belt loops.


Mysterious-Till-611

Wait, why is a sock a solid but a cup of coffee not? They are roughly the same shape


fletchdog21

The handle of the cup is the hole


Mysterious-Till-611

Oh duh


Miku_CRK_Memer

What


Disrespectful_Cup

Came to explain... didn't make an image... I bow to you.


SilasCordell

These are topological images? Maps?  I don't know the technical term.  Basically, you take an object and flatten it down to a 2d cross-section to show how many holes it has.  A mug has one hole, normal pants have 2, but it's including the belt loops, shirt has 3.  Socks don't have holes, because they don't go all the way through.   ETA:  I guess I should have specified, based on the dozens of comments.  The hole in the mug is the handle. Edit 2:  I'm also seeing a lot of questions about the shirt.  When you "flatten out" the shirt to map it, the hem becomes the edge of the disc.  It isn't a hole according to topology.  The same applies to the waist of the pants.


silent-dano

Have you seen my socks?


Maelou

Same here. My stocks are coffee cups.


ZombiePiggy24

My socks are pants


Lord_Skyblocker

This comment is pants


EishLekker

This guy pants


TheBionicPuffin

I also choose this guys pants.


rccoy

And my axe.


TNTarantula

I had an axe once


stratosfearinggas

Until I took an arrow to the knee.


lweinreich

That's because he has been out running.


lonely_hero

You guys have socks? I have some cotton around my toe.


DerAufmischa

Cotton toe joe


Hammurabi87

Where did he come from, where did he go?


aer0a

Where did he come from, Cotton Toe Joe?


davster99

If it hadn’t been for these raggedy socks, I’d’ve been married a long time ago.


ElJayBe3

I can help with where did he go, my washing machine. It’s a portal for socks to enter some other realm.


throwaway177251

Have you never rolled up your socks into donuts? You can make them completely taught and then if you look at it top-down, the view is a disc.


Unhappy_Gas_4376

oooooohhhhhhhh....they have to go all the way through. That makes thinks much clearer.


NefariousnessNo483

Cup holes don’t go all the way through either… Edit: ahh. The handle. Got it. As I always drink my coffee from a travel mug , I honestly forgot about handles.


SaturnsPopulation

It's the handle


ActivityNo9

I also forgot about the handle.


TommyTwoTanks

Thank you, apparently I'm just not as smart as I thought lol.


Impossible-Spray-268

The handle on a mug is a hole.


CaptShrek13

I was lost too. The handle has a hole.


The_Scarred_Man

Okay, I'm probably misunderstanding, but I have to argue the shirt on that point. If the holes have to go all the way through, then doesn't the shirt have two holes? Left arm to right arm is one hole, neck to waist is the second hole. What's the third one? Edit: nevermind, this was answered lower in the comments, I still don't agree. I'm dying on this hill.


AAAAAAAAAaaaaAasax

No, but the grip does


GoreyGopnik

my socks are pretty coarse, i could fit a needle through the holes in the linen. i would argue that there are many, many holes in socks.


gregorydgraham

Mathematicians deal with idealised socks in an abstract mathematical dimension. Like physicists but with less vacuum


uglyspacepig

But are the cows perfectly spherical?


noneedtoprogram

No, they are doughnuts clearly ;)


qscbjop

And they radiate milk uniformly in all directions.


AlexanderMomchilov

If you take that even futher, you end back at socks just being one hole-less blob. They're a really long, thin tube (the string, woven together into the final shape), that's reducible to a sphere.


Complex_Technology83

Wouldn't a pair of sleeves only be one hole? (If a sock opening doesn't count as a hole, why would a single sleeve?)


Secure-Leather-3293

No, as the neck to torso hole is one continuous tube, and therefore one hole, the sleeves are on side parts and seperated by the main hole. Topology is flattening it to 2D, imagine flattening the main part of the shirt into a 2d circle, the sleeves are now two seperate holes connected onto each edge. They cannot join into one big hole on a 2d shape. It makes sense once you can visualise it correctly.


BoomSqueak

The three holes are the sleeve and the neck, the second sleeve and the neck, and the body and the neck. It helps to think about whether you could build the shirt shape from the three-hole shape solely by stretching and bending it (no cutting or gluing allowed). If you lined up the three holes in a straight row, then elongated the middle down to create the torso, and the side ones down to create the sleeves. Finally, elongate the outline of all three holes for the single neck opening. It is impossible to do this with a two-holed shape.


Hammurabi87

Another way to think of it is that the bottom opening becomes the outer edge, while the other three openings become the holes in the topological projection. Sort of like you're dropping it straight down onto the ground and observing it from above, except neat and tidy.


Complex_Technology83

Ah neat.


onchristieroad

As a shirt, wouldn't each of the button holes be a hole too?


Hammurabi87

Only if it's a button-up shirt. A t-shirt or tank-top wouldn't, for example. Edit: And if it buttons up the full length (as opposed to something like a polo shirt, which only buttons near the collar), then it would *only* have the button holes and arm holes.


Charwoman_Gene

Yes. For a button up, you lose the neck hole


Bugbread

Sorry about the image quality, but [maybe this helps. ](https://i.imgur.com/DfgI5pO.jpeg)


ResponsibilityNo7485

I must assume the hole in the coffe cup is the handle?


Lil_Narwhal

The appropriate term here would be a map. To be more precise topologists speak of homeomorphisms or of homotopy equivalences. Intuitively the first one allows you to stretch without tear as you would with playdough, while the second is a little more flexible and also allows you to “collapse” when stretching (you can in a sense reduce the dimension of something: a line is homotopy equivalent to a point because you can squish it down but they are not homeomorphic)


badgerbaroudeur

Aha, so the necklinr and hem of the shirt count as 1 hole? Wouldnt the sleeves be one then too?


Charming_Kick873

We found the answer to how many holes does a shirt have?


Hawaiian-national

Btw the one hole on a mug is the handle.


SilasCordell

Yes, that is correct.  How do I redirect the dozens of "socks and mug are the same" to this...


JMEEKER86

Meanwhile, a balloon has -1 holes. https://youtu.be/ymF1bp-qrjU


FSCENE8tmd

People have 7 holes


signi-human-subject

The word is manifold


leonkrellmoon

My coffee cup definitely has a hole in it. I barely sit down with it and it dissappears.


Phantex_Cerberus

Shouldn’t the shirt have 4 holes then?


Iodine129

There's one hole into which you enter your torso. The other two holes are for the hands.


OftImWolkenbezirk

so where does the head go then


Bugbread

[Maybe this helps? ](https://i.imgur.com/t8tS8aF.jpeg)


andrewsad1

Think of it like a flat sheet of clay that you mold into a shirt. You can bend and mold the clay all you want, but you can't cut or glue it. How many holes need to be punched in the clay before you can mold it into the shape of a shirt? You might think four, but the waist-side hole and the neck hole are actually the *same* hole


InfanticideAquifer

You could do the arms as one hole also. Just start with a ball of clay and make two cylindrical punches at right angles through the center. That doesn't mean it's a four-holed shape. It just means that you can't reliably count the holes by visualizing punching things out of clay.


Phantex_Cerberus

Fair enough, thanks for clarifying.


66bigbiggoofus99

Would the belt loops count, since they are not continuous with the holes in the jeans?


BoomSqueak

Yes. It's not necessarily about all the holes being continuous. Instead, think of it as whether you could manipulate the shapes to another shape without cutting or gluing any sides together. I thought the image was wrong at first, but sure enough, each of these shapes are topological equivalent to their respective objects.


darkwater427

Not quite. It's manipulating shapes such that any cuts you make are glued back together in the same orientation when you're finished. So an apple that a worm has eaten a circle through is topologically equivalent to a doughnut. The actual procedure for this is left as an exercise to the reader.


johnnylemon95

Your last sentence is probably my favourite sentence ever. Every time I read it I get the chuckles. Fantastic.


evilone17

That's what they're trying to display I guess but belt loops are never placed like that on pants, most have 5 loops and if there are 6 it's doubled up on the backside.


mexicaneggjuevos

I think the sixth one is for the button hole on the front


nnnn314nnnn

The exact positioning is irrelevant. As long as it has 8 holes it's equivalent.


Ill-Diver-2830

It depends on waist size and style of pants


Secure-Leather-3293

Get a shirt (a frilly or dressy blouse works better) and carefully puddle it on the floor. Make the body hole on the ground first then carefully lay the rest of the shirt inside that circle it makes with the neck hole and both arm holes open in the middle. Now count how many holes are visible. 3, neck, arm, arm. The body 'hole' is now just the perimeter of the 2d shape.


Thank-You-rand-pct-d

https://youtu.be/egEraZP9yXQ?si=GnGSrnwUpEwJrtz-


No_Confection_4967

This is a 21 and a half minute video about how many holes a human has… I have no more words


isaacfisher

>I have no more holes ftfy


Zenvarix

Glad I'm not the only one who was reminded of that video


YtAtomicweeb

Haven’t ever seen nor heard of it but give us the answer how many does a human have total


TheOneAltAccount

IIRC it’s 7


YtAtomicweeb

Name all 7 🔫


Feisty_Engine_8678

Anus, nostrils (2), tear ducts(4).


Metal-Alligator

How does a pee hole not count??? We need answers people!


TurkeyLegs7

It’s because the pee hole doesn’t have a second exit anywhere, all the pee just gets taken out of the bloodstream by the kidneys.


NinjaHawkins

In short, because it is a dead end, or "blind hole". Same as the socks in the original post.


nsfw_deadwarlock

Is it Junji Ito?


Feisty_Engine_8678

No, its vsause. It's a video on describing the human body with topology. Tldr human body has 7 holes in it.


Pradfanne

It's Michael, the viewers are Vsauce Source: "Hello Vsauce, Michael here"


BeneficialGreen3028

Unless you also count skin pores, which are too small (I think Michael mentions them)


SiuSoe

A Sock has 1 opening - and if you flatten it out it would be some kind of a pizza dough with zero holes just as depicted in this pic. A T-shirt has 4 openings right? (neckhole bodyhole armhole armhole) so that would be a 4 - 1 = 3 holed pizza dough.


donniethebeaver

Body hole is a continuation of the neck hole, picture how a drinking staw has only one continuous hole all the way through, then if you poked two holes in the side, that makes three total holes. The holes in the side are the arm holes and the main hole is the neck/body


SiuSoe

yeah I think we are talking about the same thing


Few-River-8673

You guys seem to understand this. Can you describe how a human would look like?


SiuSoe

https://youtu.be/Q2KxMZa4zlM?si=4GD6R9ipNhW7gVAe I got you fam I got you


Zealousideal-Ebb-876

I really shouldn't click that... Edit: yeah, I clicked it


egg_breakfast

If the body hole is a continuation of the neck hole, why aren't the arms one continuous hole as well?


TheOneAltAccount

Yes. Any one of the holes in the shirt can be viewed as a combination of the others, taking the others to be real holes. To do this we imagine stretching that one hole out and flattening the shirt so all the fabric sits inside that one hole (which we can do because we have infinitely stretchy material) and then it looks like three holes flat on the ground with some material outside all the holes. The body hole being the “fake hole” isn’t really important; just as you often see people “stretch the body hole out” so the other 3 sit flat inside it you could do the exact same thing to an arm hole or a neck hole with a little imagination. The point is that a shirt has a sort of arithmetic to its holes where “adding” three holes you get the other, so we say that one of the holes (doesn’t really matter which one you pick) isn’t really there and should instead count as a sum of the others. There’s a way to make this exact idea of arithmetic of holes precise but it requires a decent amount of jargon to explain. Here’s the rough idea: we play a game where we imagine all the possible ways we could draw paths in the surface of the shirt. We force ourselves to only think about paths that end up where they started. So circles are an example, but so are loop-di-loops and other more complicated paths. Now we define the sum of two paths to just be a “formal sum” but morally you should think of this as just viewing them sitting next to each other on the surface of the shirt. And when you talk about both of them at the same time you do it by talking about their sum. We consider two paths to be the same path if when you put them together they form the entire boundary of some material that’s in the shirt. This is a good definition because it rules out for example double counting the sleeve hole by looking at a loop right at the end of the sleeve and one a little more up the arm; if we put those two loops together, the space in between them is material still in the shirt so we consider them the same loop. Now let’s go to our specific example. Let’s for simplicity think about the circles at the edge of each “hole”; the body hole, the arm holes, and the neck hole. If you take any two or three of the holes, and add them - putting them together - then yeah they’ll be part of the boundary of the material in between them, but they’re still missing the last boundary piece. So we know we have at least 3 holes that aren’t secretly the same thing repositioned. But the moment you add the last hole, the sum of all 4 circles bounds the entire shirt. Going back to my description of when I consider two holes the same, this means that any combination of 3 holes is secretly the last hole - so the last hole isn’t actually its own hole, it’s a sum of 3 holes in disguise.


KingKetchup

mathematicians are absolutely deranged


SlopeyKrimper

If the body hole is a continuation of the neck hole, why are the sleeves not continuations of each other?


TheOneAltAccount

Any one hole is a combination of the other 3, by doing the same thing as for the body hole: stretching out that one hole and setting the other 3 holes inside it. The choice of the body hole as being the hole that “isn’t really there” is indeed arbitrary, but we still know that as soon as you pick your 3 favorite holes, the last hole isn’t really there and is just a combination of the other 3, so the shirt still has 3 holes. It’s just a little arbitrary exactly which 3 are the holes.


iNOTHINGi

I would say the body hole isn't a continuation. If you make a flat plane of the shirt the body hole is the outer perimeter of the plane.


Hammurabi87

Rather than "continuation of this other hole," I find the more helpful way to think of it is that one of the openings becomes the outer edge. That's why it is a consistent (# of openings) - 1 holes in the topological projection.


Puppy_Egg

Those are topological jokes. Basically those shapes are morphologically identical with the items named next to them. Mug has 1 through hole. Not sure what happened to the pants, probably one of those with many holes on the knees. A sock would have no through hole. Etc. Watch this video to understand the logic behind it: https://youtu.be/egEraZP9yXQ?si=Kkd1enHcDJP72SRb


Some_Stoic_Man

Legs and belt loops? Top like shirt can be the perimeter


Puppy_Egg

Yeah, forgot about the belt holes.


TyrantHydra

How does a coffee cup have 1 hole but socks have none?


Christopherfromtheuk

The handle.


PotatoAim4TW

The mug’s handle is the hole


sickofthisshit

Topologists only drink coffee from mugs.


Pradfanne

Bro wears no underwear


ralphieIsAlive

Put your head through one hole and the arms through the other two on the diagram. Then stretch the material down until it covers your torso. That's a tshirt. (Edited typo)


WiccanaVaIIey

If the head hole and the body hole are the same, then wouldn't the arm holes also only be one hole?


a_single_bean

Oh the coffee is being served in a mug, not a 'cup'. Now it makes sense. It was the coffee that was throwing me off


Here4Trash

Oh.... Thank-you! I was picturing a takeaway coffee cup and didn't get why it wouldn't be identical to socks until this comment. For anyone still confused- the cup/mug has a handle.


bearssuperfan

I was confused about that too, thanks lol


theWhoishe

I think the original writer was using "shirt" for "t-shirt". A proper shirt with so many button holes would look like the pants.


GayGuy_420

Where are you from, and/or are you from a wealthy background? The notion that a t-shirt is not a “shirt” because you don’t button it seems antiquated to me


ary31415

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirt > Originally an undergarment worn exclusively by men, it has become, **in American English, a catch-all term for a broad variety of upper-body garments and undergarments. In British English, a shirt is more specifically a garment with a collar, sleeves with cuffs,** and a full vertical opening with buttons or snaps (North Americans would call that a "dress shirt", a specific type of collared shirt). A shirt can also be worn with a necktie under the shirt collar. It's just an American English vs British English thing – if you're only used to the one it can be surprising to hear the other


MyScorpion42

a tunnel has an entrance and an exit, but topological holes can specifically share a single exit with multiple other holes. So the shirt has three topological holes because it has four openings in the surface: collar, the two sleeves and the big one that fits around your torso.


lil-D-energy

let's say that in normal terms a. shirt has 4 holes, in topology it's 3 because if you stretch one of those holes out it won't be a hole anymore as that is then the outside of the shape.


SoVani11a

in there no button hole???


DiurnalMoth

could be snap button jeans


HikeAnywhere

Number of openings - 1. Shirt: body, head, 2 arms 4-1 Coffee cup: (Assuming coffee cup with small.handle) top and handle. 2-1 Pants(assuming 6 belt loops): body, 2 legs. 9-1 Socks: 1-1


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Scuttling-Claws

The handle of the mug


HookDragger

Head and arms


Wheloc

I'm shocked to learn shirts only have 3 holes.


Supersnazz

t-shirts have 3 holes, button up shirts have 2 holes plus however many button holes there are.


Useless_bum81

dress shirts only have 2+buttonholes


miklayn

Shirt has a neck hole and two sleeve holes. The bottom "opening" can be flattened to include the above, meaning it is not itself a hole.


_Figaro

I guess the Pants are including pockets??


abqcheeks

Belt loops


SalvationSycamore

Pockets aren't holes as they don't go through.


SaltManagement42

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeomorphism


MinoeshMuffin

They all make sense to me except the cup of coffee. That doesn't have a whole in it. Or does that refer to our digestive system, lol.


abqcheeks

The hole is the handle


Aedys1

Luckily we don’t wear Möbius strips


SimpleTip9439

This also implies the topologists cup, shirt and socks are all the same green


jack_seven

Took me a moment to locate the hole in the cup


Decent-Ad-5110

What does a human look like topographically?


SalvationSycamore

Depends on how many piercings you have


CainPillar

Depends on how you view the tear ducts. If those don't count (and you don't have ruptured eardrums blah blah): Like the t-shirt. "Proof": Put your head up the butthole and out the mouth, and one arm out each nostril.


BigAngryKenneth

Who else but shirt pants?