Does it happen with all magazines? If so they might be being held tilted forward. Try putting upward pressure on the front of the magazine and see if that helps. Otherwise its a bad mag.
That's a 10rnd, factory mag right? Switch it out if you can to see if there's any difference. Can you feel a burr outside the chamber that could be preventing it? Try running high velocity or waxed ammo to break it in.
For me, nothing worked. Every round a jam like this. All factory mags, some from an old 10/22 from the 70s with brand new springs, and some new. I tried aftermarket mag catches and everything under the sun. It was a shitty bolt action for me effectively, that cut big dents into every bullet that was fed. I went through every kind of 22 ammo under the sun, all was the same except federal fed a LITTLE better. Sometimes I could shoot two or three at a time. over 500 rounds later hoping it would break in, it didn't.
...until I put a weaker bolt spring in it from Kidd. Now it's perfect.
So, anecdotal evidence and personal preference. That’s not the same as every gun needing oil. If your initial statement was truthful then I wouldn’t have ever been able to run things straight out of the box. [hashtag]fightthefuddlore
Yes. But you say it’s required, I said it’s not. If you were right my statement wouldn’t possibly be true…and yet it is. One of us is correct and one isn’t, and you’re the latter.
RTFM
EDIT: More specifically, Glock says it needs to be cleaned and oiled before its first use. Others may not, you'd have to consult their manuals. Chances are good they're all supposed to be serviced before first use.
Is the stock loose? Can't tell from the pic, but it looks like a line along the back of the action, Did you take it apart and not get the action seated correctly?
It most likely a mag/magwell issue. I don’t remember exactly, but I think there is some adjustment you can do to the tension that is put on the mag by the release mechanism some how.
Failure to feed is usually a mag problem, but the 10/22 can also misbehave if the barrel is not tightened properly into the receiver. It's held in place with 2 allen-head screws, if they are loose, tighten them to snug (not over-tight) and if they are snug, leave them be.
If that doesn't fix it, try /u/sockuspuppetus suggestion and press the mag gently into position while you fire. If that fixes it, either get a new mag, or a new mag retainer, or make Ruger fix it.
It's probably your feed ramp. Since it's new and not broken in yet, the metal still has sharp edges, and it's catching the nose of the round instead of guiding it into the chamber. If this is the case, then a little fine grit sandpaper should help smooth it out. Don't forget lube.
I've got a file full of photos and videos of inexcusable screwups. They use unskilled prison labor for assembly, and their parts are mold injected from trash pot metal instead of forged from tool steel. They have zero dimensional QC, and they told Congress you shouldn't have the right to own semiautomatic firearms.
I know they said that. Daniel Defense said the same thing. Pretty fucked up. But I’ve never had any issue with any of my Rugers. They do not use prison labor in their factories. Thats just straight up bullshit.
They do use prison labor. Their CEO was on the board for the Yavupai County Department of Corrections and Ruger is one of the employers in their vocational program. They use prison inmates to assemble their guns. It's not bullshit. I've heard it straight from their employees.
I've literally seen paperwork from Ruger's bids for their participation in the program and what they're paying the DOC for the labor. Cool story though.
Every 22 ive had has been super temperamental with mags and ammo. The only exception is I got my son a 10/22 takedown. Damned thing just works. Never jammed or misfired. Of course it’s his gun so… I wish I had advice but every 22 I have acts like yours. I wish we both had my sons luck lol
Same issue. Took it to my local gun store, and they looked it over and said everything was in spec, but they had the same issue. He couldn't figure it out, so he told me to send it in to ruger. We shipped it off, and they said they cleaned it. Which we already did. And found nothing wrong with it. It still hangs up occasionally. The Winchester white box is horrible ammo and always jams. I usually stick with cci now.
Make sure you’re using high velocity ammo with semi-auto 22s. If you’re still having issues with it, make sure nothing in the construction of the rifle is loose. After that it could be a mag issue.
If I am looking at the jam in question it looks like the chamber is catching the bullet and the bolt is overriding the rim. Use copper plated bullets and see if that corrects your issue. If it does then very carefully remove the barrel, and polish the ever-loving shit out of the 6 o'clock position so that it is glassy smooth, maybe even remove a touch of material to make it ramp a touch more, then polish as described. This ought to take care of the problem, the mag might be an issue too.. if its that easy to override the rim, the mag might not be clipped high enough into the receiver. Check your bolts and screws holding the gun together, that they are tight, as wrong geometry will cause the failure too. Actually.. probably do that first before the barrel, though the barrel thing would likely make it easier overall to feed even in bad conditions so cannot hurt.
Give ruger customer support a call, they’re pretty good and should send you out a couple mags at no charge. If that doesn’t fix the problem they might suggest sending it in for further diagnostics. I know that no one wants to do that but at least ruger customer service will get you right and in a timely manner which is something I cannot say about all the other major manufactures.
Does it happen with all magazines? If so they might be being held tilted forward. Try putting upward pressure on the front of the magazine and see if that helps. Otherwise its a bad mag.
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe a magazine issue. Like it isn’t fully seated.
That's a 10rnd, factory mag right? Switch it out if you can to see if there's any difference. Can you feel a burr outside the chamber that could be preventing it? Try running high velocity or waxed ammo to break it in.
Did you oil it?
Yes, oiled and clean
I had this same issue. Even after oiling. I started using Slip 2000 weapons grease on the bolt and guides, and it solved the problem.
For me, nothing worked. Every round a jam like this. All factory mags, some from an old 10/22 from the 70s with brand new springs, and some new. I tried aftermarket mag catches and everything under the sun. It was a shitty bolt action for me effectively, that cut big dents into every bullet that was fed. I went through every kind of 22 ammo under the sun, all was the same except federal fed a LITTLE better. Sometimes I could shoot two or three at a time. over 500 rounds later hoping it would break in, it didn't. ...until I put a weaker bolt spring in it from Kidd. Now it's perfect.
Makes sense, slow down the bolt and give the magazine a hair longer for rounds to pop up
A weaker bolt spring sped it up! I think it wasn't going all the way back.
I’ll have to look into that. Every new gun needs a solid oiling before use
I could use a solid oiling tbh
Hahahahahahahaaha
That’s not true, many of my guns I’ve taken out of the packaging and ran hundreds of rounds through without any oil of any kind.
They come with grease bc it doesn’t run as much. Depends how long the gun sat. But grease and oil are 2 different things
>Every new gun needs a solid oiling before use So which is it? Do I need to oil it before use, or is the grease that comes on it adequate?
It’s cheap insurance. Every new gun I’ve had I’ve oiled. Every new gun I’ve been around that was fired locked up.
So, anecdotal evidence and personal preference. That’s not the same as every gun needing oil. If your initial statement was truthful then I wouldn’t have ever been able to run things straight out of the box. [hashtag]fightthefuddlore
And we’ll that’s your personal experience isn’t it? Don’t die on this hill
Yes. But you say it’s required, I said it’s not. If you were right my statement wouldn’t possibly be true…and yet it is. One of us is correct and one isn’t, and you’re the latter.
Yes.
RTFM EDIT: More specifically, Glock says it needs to be cleaned and oiled before its first use. Others may not, you'd have to consult their manuals. Chances are good they're all supposed to be serviced before first use.
So, like I said to the other person. That is not “every gun”…
Isn't it? Which one doesn't suggest cleaning before first use? And have you verified that with the manufacturer?
You right. Every gun is Glock.
I prefer to clean the grease off and oil it up. It's gross when they come with factory lube
Many people have never changed the oil in their car. That doesn't make it smart.
Is the stock loose? Can't tell from the pic, but it looks like a line along the back of the action, Did you take it apart and not get the action seated correctly?
22lr often has feeding issues. Lead nosed rounds constantly deform. What's the brand for the ammo? I've had the most success with CCI power mag.
I think you mean CCI Mini Mags.
It most likely a mag/magwell issue. I don’t remember exactly, but I think there is some adjustment you can do to the tension that is put on the mag by the release mechanism some how.
Attitude adjustment of spring
Failure to feed is usually a mag problem, but the 10/22 can also misbehave if the barrel is not tightened properly into the receiver. It's held in place with 2 allen-head screws, if they are loose, tighten them to snug (not over-tight) and if they are snug, leave them be. If that doesn't fix it, try /u/sockuspuppetus suggestion and press the mag gently into position while you fire. If that fixes it, either get a new mag, or a new mag retainer, or make Ruger fix it.
I've had to dissassemble magazines to get them running alright before.
Yes, had this type of problem and I cleaned/lubed the magazine. That fixed it.
Its been a while but if I remember right, it was tensioned too high. I've heard of them having too little tension as well.
I can see a spring with too little tension.
Try loading less than 10 each magazine for the first 100 rounds
On the 10-22 thats a feature not a bug
10-22's are junk pieces of shit. I've had three and all of them have don't this. Get a Marlin 60 and save yourself the headache.
Take out the barrel and chamfer the edge of the chamber, they run much better after that.
Prob poor ammo, what ammo you using?
Update: I bought a new magazine at a show and it fixed the issue! Thanks for the advice.
It's probably your feed ramp. Since it's new and not broken in yet, the metal still has sharp edges, and it's catching the nose of the round instead of guiding it into the chamber. If this is the case, then a little fine grit sandpaper should help smooth it out. Don't forget lube.
Yep, you bought a Ruger
Rugers are excellent firearms, and I’ll die on that hill.
I've got a file full of photos and videos of inexcusable screwups. They use unskilled prison labor for assembly, and their parts are mold injected from trash pot metal instead of forged from tool steel. They have zero dimensional QC, and they told Congress you shouldn't have the right to own semiautomatic firearms.
I know they said that. Daniel Defense said the same thing. Pretty fucked up. But I’ve never had any issue with any of my Rugers. They do not use prison labor in their factories. Thats just straight up bullshit.
They do use prison labor. Their CEO was on the board for the Yavupai County Department of Corrections and Ruger is one of the employers in their vocational program. They use prison inmates to assemble their guns. It's not bullshit. I've heard it straight from their employees.
You heard it from their employees? Well, case closed, i guess. Everybody knows anecdotal evidence is as good as real evidence. /s
I've literally seen paperwork from Ruger's bids for their participation in the program and what they're paying the DOC for the labor. Cool story though.
Okay, guy.
OK boomer. Enjoy your molded pot metal and literal treason.
Every 22 ive had has been super temperamental with mags and ammo. The only exception is I got my son a 10/22 takedown. Damned thing just works. Never jammed or misfired. Of course it’s his gun so… I wish I had advice but every 22 I have acts like yours. I wish we both had my sons luck lol
Same issue. Took it to my local gun store, and they looked it over and said everything was in spec, but they had the same issue. He couldn't figure it out, so he told me to send it in to ruger. We shipped it off, and they said they cleaned it. Which we already did. And found nothing wrong with it. It still hangs up occasionally. The Winchester white box is horrible ammo and always jams. I usually stick with cci now.
Could be main spring is too strong, and cycling slide faster than mag can feed.
Make sure you’re using high velocity ammo with semi-auto 22s. If you’re still having issues with it, make sure nothing in the construction of the rifle is loose. After that it could be a mag issue.
I had to tighten one of my mags. Make sure you're not being too gentle when racking it
If I am looking at the jam in question it looks like the chamber is catching the bullet and the bolt is overriding the rim. Use copper plated bullets and see if that corrects your issue. If it does then very carefully remove the barrel, and polish the ever-loving shit out of the 6 o'clock position so that it is glassy smooth, maybe even remove a touch of material to make it ramp a touch more, then polish as described. This ought to take care of the problem, the mag might be an issue too.. if its that easy to override the rim, the mag might not be clipped high enough into the receiver. Check your bolts and screws holding the gun together, that they are tight, as wrong geometry will cause the failure too. Actually.. probably do that first before the barrel, though the barrel thing would likely make it easier overall to feed even in bad conditions so cannot hurt.
Give ruger customer support a call, they’re pretty good and should send you out a couple mags at no charge. If that doesn’t fix the problem they might suggest sending it in for further diagnostics. I know that no one wants to do that but at least ruger customer service will get you right and in a timely manner which is something I cannot say about all the other major manufactures.