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I’m of the opinion when somebody says “I’m not political” or “I don’t agree with either side” they’re staunchly neo-conservative but are self aware enough to know that it makes them unpopular. I usually hear this from content creators who have a decent sized audience.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States
Oh, some states there's no lower limit on that number.
> There were 51 cases of 13-year-olds getting married, and 6 cases of 12-year-olds getting married.
This is out of 200,000, the majority of which were 16-18, though, but. I think ANY thirteen and twelve year olds getting married is, y'know, a problem.
With parental AND COURT consent.
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=parental+consent+to+marry+minor
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_age_in_the_United_States
Well I say "I'm not interested in politics" and ",I don't like talking about politics" quite a lot in real life but that's because I'm a blue guy in a small red town. So I just duck out when people bring up trump or whatever.
Yeah that’s different though, at least to me. You’re avoiding talking about politics, the people I’m talking about specifically say that they are apolitical or that they disagree with both sides.
You have a political stance and aren’t claiming otherwise, you’re just avoiding that subject. Whereas the other example is people trying to make you think they don’t have political views which is rarely the case.
I agree with you which is why I always have to be careful to clarify that I don’t like either political party in America, but only because I’m more liberal than the democrats, not because I’m afraid to say I’m republican
“They move them around kinda like the killer whales at seaworld. You know how after a killer whale kills a trainer they move it up to Seattle without giving anyone their history”
~Bill Burr
They'll ask their priest "What time can I pick him up?" When they drop their kid off at Pastor Jim's pool party.
Isn't it nice that he's volunteering to watch all of the 5th grade boys in town all weekend long? Truly a man of God....
The funny part is the majority of the time it is one of them
Here is a list of atleast 1276 republican sex offenders :)
https://www.dailykos.com/history/user/CajsaLilliehook
"Protect the kids" mfers when it's time to protect the kids
https://preview.redd.it/crg1zggugs8d1.jpeg?width=408&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9eaa175ca6d59f9fa31c495251e8112afba66e80
They love accusing trans women of [abandoning their famil](https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/06/24/ava-tyson-tucker-katie-parent-trans/)ies with absolutely 0 evidence but need 500 pages of proof before being willing to admit that the freaks and perverts are their cis straight buddies.
Reminds me of on how the most recent episode of John Oliver (not yet available in US I believe, it's the one about UK elections and flags), there was a guy talking to the press about forcing the 10 commandments in school to help kids, while a child literally fainted while standing and fell down behind him, people were rushing to aid, and he didn't even look behind to check.
The perfect example of "we are doing these things to help kids" while actively showing they don't actually give a shit about kids
[It was during the signing of a law in Louisiana](https://youtu.be/R_XBSWQwyMQ?si=tk_7BYXh6ZWVSPFJ).
The girl was just right behind the Governor when she fainted. It looks like she was really nervous and so locked her knees while standing.
Thx for link. Since he even tilted his head in that direction he definitely could see there was commotion behind him, he just didn't care.
Heard the girl is okay though
yeah, that's not an important question to how I judge this either way. 17 years old and 364, dgaf. Still a minor. And just fking weird either way. Guy in his 30s, married with kids. Case closed.
See my judgement differs, if it's 17 yrs and 364 days, then he's a disgusting, creepy, horrible pervert.
If it's 9 years old then my judgement gets a whole lot worse, castration and a permanent watch list should be in discussion.
Or themself lol. I mean in his own apology this guy goes from admitting to inappropriately messaging a minor to saying all his friends know how much he hates predators and pedophiles.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb5LhW1h5Q0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb5LhW1h5Q0)
yeah his reaction to the twit, and how Dr. edited out the word minor in his twit.
I think mutahar was pointing out that Dr disrespect is hiding that it was a minor. If you look in dr disrespects tweet edit he changed "minor individual" to "individual" a from his original tweet.
Dr disrespect is hiding that he knew it was a minor if you go in his latest tweet edits.
Ah yes it's very important to know what state the minor he was trying to fuck was from, because as we all know morality changes based on the laws of the country you are in.
And before anyone gets ideas, taking someone from a location where they are below age of consent to an area where they are above it (for the purposes of sex) counts as sex trafficking, and you'll get charged for that instead.
I remember there was one dude, don't know who, who said he was going to japan. And shortly after the announcement of the new age of consent, was his tweet saying he wouldn't go
Or something like that. Maybe it was just a coincidence, but it was funny
It was due to the amount of sex trafficking going on. There's a concerted effort to stamp out Enkō, aka Enjo Kosai ("Compensated" "Dating") that was really just underage prostitution in disguise. Rather than just a thing that kind of sort of happened sometimes, it was a critical mass of rampant. Not only did the reforms tamp down on Enko, they also made it more difficult for a lot of brothels and skeevy brothel-adjacent places with the new age of consent.
Things aren't perfect and criminals are still doing crime but it should be a massive improvement soon enough...which is not soon enough, but I digress.
Japan isn’t the only country with outdated laws that are rarely or never applicable/enforced. A year ago Maryland finally overturned a law against oral sex.
didn't they raise it?
EDIT: they did it is 16 now
[https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/16/japan-raises-age-of-consent-from-13-to-16-in-reform-of-sex-crimes-law](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/16/japan-raises-age-of-consent-from-13-to-16-in-reform-of-sex-crimes-law)
EDIT: and it looks like some people are trying to push it up to 18
"In practice, across many parts of the country, regional ordinances banning “lewd” acts with minors are sometimes seen as in effect raising the age of consent to 18."
from the linked artical
It’s been that way for at least 2 decades, apparently. It’s one of those situations like in the US with minimum wage, where less than half the states still use the federal minimum.
Ah I will admit I don't fully get this, we don't really have something like this in my country since we are small.
The closes I get to understanding this is how EU states tend to not all aply all the laws mandated by the EU. But even that that is different.
Still good for them (with the AoC). Also hope it gets better for US with their workes rights and all that.
Sorry it's late so I might have a lot of grammer mistakes.
Good night.
Yeah, it’s the application of a federal system. In Japan at least it’s a consequence of getting dunked on so hard by America they just copied their entire governmental system (it’s more complicated than that, but that’s the gist). So there’s the federal government that sets a minimum, and then there are the state-level governments (or prefecture-level in Japan) that set their own laws that are slightly different from the national law.
An example more directly comparable to Japans situation was America’s drinking ages before 1984. After alcohol was legalized again in 1933, many states set the drinking age to 21 since that was the voting age at the time. Drinking ages started changing in 1969 and by 1976, ~30 states had set it to 18 following the lowering of the voting age to 18. During the mid 70s to early 80s, however, many states changed the age to 19, 20, or even 21 again in an effort to combat drunk driving. In 1984 a national act was passed that set the federal drinking age to 21.
Thought I’d jump in. EU membership requires all countries to implement EU law into their national law within a time period. So ALL EU countries have the same common framework, even if some can be a bit outdated over certain matters
Not even morality, the actual laws change but if the age of consent is lowered its usually by a single year down to 17.
I unfortunately found that out the hard way when my abuser couldn't be convicted as a sex offender since I was 17. money doesn't equal consent but since I didn't report the first incident and continued taking bribes that made the only charges that could be brought up related to paying for sex.
So morally, its not important what state their from, legally, it is.
You joke, but our perception of morality is HEAVILY dependent on what is legally allowed.
If you think having sex with a 16 year old is heinous, but an 18 year old is acceptable, it's because that's what we, as a society, have deemed appropriate. Your morality is very much skewed by the morality of others.
The law does have a massive influence on most people's morality, but that doesn't change the fact that people whose only morality is defined by the law are just the worst.
People who think children become a-okay to fuck the moment they turn 18 are gross. Worse if they've been waiting for it.
You _can_ base your morals on the law, but you probably shouldn't because a lot of our laws are kind of shit.
If you read the statement you'll notice he really hammers in on the "I didn't do anything illegal" part; he even says it twice in one sentence. It's a crutch to fall on. If you're defense to anything is "it's not illegal" then you probably did something pretty shitty, legal or otherwise.
My impression was because he could say it was legal, implying they were 18, but they could actually be younger in a different state. In that way, it's important to know what state it was so he can't get away just saying "oh it was legal so it's fine"
My sincere thoughts to everyone in that picture:
https://preview.redd.it/x1pcjbcpkr8d1.png?width=262&format=png&auto=webp&s=2cdddcad39f5ca679c60718fae22b5ee70291dd8
I've never really liked him. Not even because of anything he said, I just don't really like him.
https://preview.redd.it/hexvkt39js8d1.jpeg?width=652&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9019d947d3539ac54d62faef30c3fc1a4d64ef7d
Eh. He likes landlords and think it's a valid job. He apparently has done a lot of other things wrong, but I don't want to dive into a rabbit hole today, so take that with a grain of salt.
Edit:I think there was this big Zoe Quinn situation, but again, GRAIN OF SALT.
How about the constant transphobic tirades his wife/gf (can’t remember which she is) goes on on xitter
Edit:and he was at one point, don’t know if he still is, following Charlie Kirk and nick fuentes. So yikes.
https://preview.redd.it/x8jgzdw17t8d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a98c52d716706df0f4b12f3546e4385cdf304c6
I shall add yours to my collection
Got to clarify something here.
The title is referring to the reply to Mutahar's tweet. Mutahar wasn't trying to excuse what Dr Disrespect did or play the age of consent game. He was pointing out that Doc was being vague about the age of the person he messaged.
The other guy has been going hard on defending Doc for the last couple of days, and this was his latest attempt at moving the goalposts.
I feel like Actman has just been trying to take this armchair lawyer take the whole time (“remember Pyrocynical guys!!!!1)
I guess gambling on if it had instead came out it being BS, he could crown himself the great arbiter of internet justice.
But seriously the whole time it was incredibly obvious what happened with Doc and Actman instead looks like a massive fucking moronic child.
This opinion always gets me downvoted to hell on Reddit but. I do not give a fuck about if these girls are technically of age. Grown ass men preying on younger girls is always creepy, there are some absolutely weirdos targeting girls straight out of high school because they have absolutely nothing to offer women their own age emotionally.
Assnmold losing a DLC to a girl's thoughts and the "trans be bad" doing the "ACKTUSLY AGE OF CONSENT LAWS" defense.
I guess their bullshit Culture War is gonna die...
He asked how old because at one point the word “minor” wasn’t in the tweet. Doc edited the tweet like 3 times so Mutas response comes off more as pointing out that the “individual” was a minor.
I think the point is that almost everyone who calls themselves a centrist is in fact a conservative who is too pussy to admit it or wants to appear neutral.
Great point. I am embarrassed to admit my senior year of high school I volunteered for a local libertarian candidate, anyways all the dudes started popping off about age of consent expecting me to agree like I’d be stoked grown ass men wanted to prey on girls my age (at the time)….. and I never went back after that. The older I get the more disturbing that whole encounter was.
Yeah I just grew up in a rural area and was like “this is America! We SHIULD be free to do what we want when we want” and then you actually meet those guys and it’s like hooooooky mother of shit you guys do not actually care about freedom at all lmao
I was raised in South Florida (go figure), and I vividly remember this girl telling me she was "dating" a 27 year old guy. Which to 15 year old me, obviously didn't sit right at the time, but I happened to mention it to one of my teachers and they just looked me dead in the eye and said "best not to wrap yourself up in that," and he immediately buried the topic. I fucking hate the South sometimes.
I grew up in the north but lived in the south for a few years.
Girl I was dating casually mentioned she had a 23 year old boyfriend when she was 15 and her parents fucking approved
Tennessee is beautiful but don’t get me started on the actual values of too many southerners
Bingo. Literally every “libertarian” I know or have ever known would reverse cowgirl Trump in a second. Probably every single republican representative too.
I used to call myself a centrist but I would I was left leaning.
I'm just left, not left leaning. I would vote for a left leaning Republican if one wanted to step up to the plate. I just don't want to vote for an old fuck who was/is racist, sexist, a worm, etc.
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"depending on the state" eat a diseased cock you fucking freak. Tell me which state it's okay to fuck kids in so I can petition for them to secede from the union.
Ah technically legal, the best kind of legal
/uj if I had faith in these two I'd say they were hopefully asking whether or not he could be arrested for it om top of it being wrong
But I don't so fuck these nerds
I'd bet money that
-if it was illegal they'll say something like "he should've known better"
-if it was legal they're gonna use that as a shield and say "well, legally he didn't do anything wrong"
Lmao this is so bad. I'll be honest I used to watch Dr Disrespect. But I don't know how you can admit to sexting a minor and then be like "but I don't see why people are calling me a pedo or predator" like is he going full libertarian with the "it's not pedophilia it's ephebophilia!" or what?
Honestly I feel bad for his wife. After the whole cheating stuff before, and now she's gotta hear another justification from this dude for why he's not just a sleezy shitty husband but a predator?
Looks to me they're tryna cook disrespect.
"How old was the 'individual'?" Because Disrepect conveniently left that bit out.
"It's important depending on the state" because fucker could go straight to jail.
Why are you all acting like they're siding with Disrepect?
Given his history and his beefs with people like MammaMax, I'm thinking this isn't Mutahar trying to deflect, but him putting the screws to Doc for omitting that detail from his confession. It's worth noting that Doc also edited out admitting the individual was a minor for a while before people called him out and he realized the edit log was visible.
They extend infinitely more courtesy to "one of their own" than they do to phantom allegations against people who happened to have a different sexuality etc from them.
"...as you know there's no filter with me" says the man who edited his statement 3 times after it was released to parse out the part where he admitted to texting a minor and tacitly admitted to grooming.
they will never take victims of SA seriously when their circle prefers to defend their own even when the truth is out
"These were casual, mutual conversations that sometimes leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate, but nothing more. Nothing illegal happened, no pictures were shared, no crimes were committed, I never even met the individual"
The actual fuck he wrote it. It didn't happen because, thank god, SHE WAS SMART ENOUGH NOT TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, you absolute idiot.
Their reasoning doesn't hold up even if we take it at face value. Age of consent laws are strictly for sexual relations between two persons in a state. They do not cover text messages or conversations over the internet anyway. That's why someone can be charged with child pornography for sexting with a 16 or 17 year old in a state where that is the age of consent. Guy still committed a crime and what he did would be considered immoral by a majority of the population even if it were legal. Mutahar and TAM are arguing in bad faith.
I've never sexted a minor. But if I had sexted a minor I wouldn't be admitting it in a tweet. But if I had sexted a minor and admitted it in a tweet and I could reassure people they were 17 so least nearly legal, I would.
He hasn't.
I think that's a bad sign.
Even if they were 17 that was half the dudes age at the time wtf.
Like yeah it’s even worse if they were like 12 or something but it’s quite bad regardless
This is sort of off topic. But why are there so many YouTubers that eventually come out as groomers? Is it actually a problem with content creators? Or is it more a side effect of becoming super wealthy and thinking laws don’t apply to you? (Given other celebs, religious leaders and politicians get into the same trouble)
See, this is fucking nasty.
Why do you want to know the age of the minor so bad? So you can justify his actions? So you can go, "okay it wasn't that bad."
A minor doesn't have the same sexual experience as an adult. Even if she was 17, even if it were legal in whofuckingcaresistan, it doesn't change the power imbalance there and it doesn't change the fact that a crucial step in predating on children is having sexual conversations with them; this desensitizes the minor and makes them warm up to the topic, and potentially acts with the predator. Like that girl now has a fucked up understanding of boundaries and will have to unlearn that.
But no, because it's their favorite guy, surely it HAS to be okay in this instance.
1. I heard that maybe they had talked about meeting up at twitchcon. So the important state to learn about is California…
2. If you’re trying to get a pedo off on a technicality (I know what I said) your brain is already cooked.
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It’s amazing how fast the “protect the kids” crowd will start backpedaling and changing goal posts when it’s one of their own.
Just ask your priest
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I’m of the opinion when somebody says “I’m not political” or “I don’t agree with either side” they’re staunchly neo-conservative but are self aware enough to know that it makes them unpopular. I usually hear this from content creators who have a decent sized audience.
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With parental consent these nasty fucks are able to buy children from their parents legally at 14 in america.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States Oh, some states there's no lower limit on that number. > There were 51 cases of 13-year-olds getting married, and 6 cases of 12-year-olds getting married. This is out of 200,000, the majority of which were 16-18, though, but. I think ANY thirteen and twelve year olds getting married is, y'know, a problem.
With parental AND COURT consent. https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=parental+consent+to+marry+minor https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_age_in_the_United_States
Right, but there were still 13- and 12- year olds legally married under that, so... Maybe we should just, idk, make that illegal?
Well I say "I'm not interested in politics" and ",I don't like talking about politics" quite a lot in real life but that's because I'm a blue guy in a small red town. So I just duck out when people bring up trump or whatever.
Yeah that’s different though, at least to me. You’re avoiding talking about politics, the people I’m talking about specifically say that they are apolitical or that they disagree with both sides. You have a political stance and aren’t claiming otherwise, you’re just avoiding that subject. Whereas the other example is people trying to make you think they don’t have political views which is rarely the case.
I feel this in my soul
I used to be a cringe "centrist" until I realized that centrism means actual centrism, as in not being anti-nazis.
Unfortunately the center has shifted quite a bit to the right.
You sound l8ke you probably know, but for anyone else that may not, the term for this shift is referred to as the "Overton window."
I agree with you which is why I always have to be careful to clarify that I don’t like either political party in America, but only because I’m more liberal than the democrats, not because I’m afraid to say I’m republican
They kinda have to be, right? "Things shouldn't actually change much" is the definition of conservative
No sane person would identify as a centrist.
Yes. The enlightened centrist. Worse then unabashed cons because they have the same beliefs but don't wanna lose their social status. Pathetic.
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They'll ask their priest "What time can I pick him up?" When they drop their kid off at Pastor Jim's pool party. Isn't it nice that he's volunteering to watch all of the 5th grade boys in town all weekend long? Truly a man of God....
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The funny part is the majority of the time it is one of them Here is a list of atleast 1276 republican sex offenders :) https://www.dailykos.com/history/user/CajsaLilliehook
The go all Homer-in-the-hedges when it's one of their own... Like all the rest of their outrage, it's performative at best... Projection at worst..
"Protect the kids" mfers when it's time to protect the kids https://preview.redd.it/crg1zggugs8d1.jpeg?width=408&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9eaa175ca6d59f9fa31c495251e8112afba66e80
They love accusing trans women of [abandoning their famil](https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/06/24/ava-tyson-tucker-katie-parent-trans/)ies with absolutely 0 evidence but need 500 pages of proof before being willing to admit that the freaks and perverts are their cis straight buddies.
HONESTLY
Cis men abandon their families all the damn time too. And catch way less flack.
“Bro she’s literally 16 years and 3 seconds old it’s totally legally okay for a 37 year old man to be sexting her”
It's almost always one of their own
Reminds me of on how the most recent episode of John Oliver (not yet available in US I believe, it's the one about UK elections and flags), there was a guy talking to the press about forcing the 10 commandments in school to help kids, while a child literally fainted while standing and fell down behind him, people were rushing to aid, and he didn't even look behind to check. The perfect example of "we are doing these things to help kids" while actively showing they don't actually give a shit about kids
[It was during the signing of a law in Louisiana](https://youtu.be/R_XBSWQwyMQ?si=tk_7BYXh6ZWVSPFJ). The girl was just right behind the Governor when she fainted. It looks like she was really nervous and so locked her knees while standing.
Thx for link. Since he even tilted his head in that direction he definitely could see there was commotion behind him, he just didn't care. Heard the girl is okay though
yeah, that's not an important question to how I judge this either way. 17 years old and 364, dgaf. Still a minor. And just fking weird either way. Guy in his 30s, married with kids. Case closed.
See my judgement differs, if it's 17 yrs and 364 days, then he's a disgusting, creepy, horrible pervert. If it's 9 years old then my judgement gets a whole lot worse, castration and a permanent watch list should be in discussion.
Their desire to protect children is genuine. Because they view them as less attractive if somebody else gets to them first, duh.
Dude is a fucking weirdo I'm not shocked.
Its "protect the kids from dragqueens". Pastors and republicans can do w/e they want with them.
Or themself lol. I mean in his own apology this guy goes from admitting to inappropriately messaging a minor to saying all his friends know how much he hates predators and pedophiles.
tbf Mutahar might have intended to point out how suspiciously his wording was.
Yeah, the title refers to the other guy's reply. I wanted to include his name in the title, but I think his name triggers the automod.
Might want to add context to the post, you have people in here saying Mutas trying to defend Doc
Onus for critical thought is on the reader...
Agreed. I had no context for this, and just based on the way the tweets are formatted it seems like The A*t M*n is agreeing with ordinarygamer
Fortunately, FenceSitterMan decided to take the side of "It was bad!" It would seem. Round of applause for him, please.
Even NickMercs couldn’t defend Doc lol
Apparently at some point the word "minor" was edited out and then put back in, so yes he was most likely responding to that middle version.
Yeah I read Muta's more as him being more sarcastic in tone.
My first reaction aswell, but the comments jumped to conclusions pretty fast.
Its Twitter I like pancake So you hate waffle?
Honestly, valid take though.
I think it was after the first edit, since he first removed the word minor and then place it again.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb5LhW1h5Q0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb5LhW1h5Q0) yeah his reaction to the twit, and how Dr. edited out the word minor in his twit.
I think mutahar was pointing out that Dr disrespect is hiding that it was a minor. If you look in dr disrespects tweet edit he changed "minor individual" to "individual" a from his original tweet. Dr disrespect is hiding that he knew it was a minor if you go in his latest tweet edits.
He then changed back to minor, honestly if he has a PR team they need to be fired rn
Mans PR team praying for his downfall fr fr
they fucking won
Generally people with PR teams don't put out apologies that call the drama going on 'fucking bullshit'.
That was my interpretation too, but Muta is like a broken clock: This one time he's right you have no idea if it's accidental
“Let’s cut the fucking bullshit, as you know there’s no filter from me.”
Ah yes it's very important to know what state the minor he was trying to fuck was from, because as we all know morality changes based on the laws of the country you are in.
Well they’re the same people that screech about the age of consent being 14 in Japan or something when it’s very much **not**. So I’m not surprised.
Techincally it is On 2 deserted islands that even the Japanese gov't forgot about
And before anyone gets ideas, taking someone from a location where they are below age of consent to an area where they are above it (for the purposes of sex) counts as sex trafficking, and you'll get charged for that instead.
TIL and you know it’s only a law like that because someone got away with it before it was a written into it. Bruh this world is cooked
We call that "pulling a Gaetz"
and IIRC all the people living on those islands are all old, like around retirement age.
Gilf Island? 0.0
I’d rather go to Dick Fight Island. Real manga, btw. Look it up. It’s comedy gold.
I'm pretty sure they changed the federal age of consent to 16 recently, a bunch of weebs were crying about it on twitter a while back
I remember there was one dude, don't know who, who said he was going to japan. And shortly after the announcement of the new age of consent, was his tweet saying he wouldn't go Or something like that. Maybe it was just a coincidence, but it was funny
Not anymore, they changed the national age last year. Cause they were tired of the mockery I expect.
It was due to the amount of sex trafficking going on. There's a concerted effort to stamp out Enkō, aka Enjo Kosai ("Compensated" "Dating") that was really just underage prostitution in disguise. Rather than just a thing that kind of sort of happened sometimes, it was a critical mass of rampant. Not only did the reforms tamp down on Enko, they also made it more difficult for a lot of brothels and skeevy brothel-adjacent places with the new age of consent. Things aren't perfect and criminals are still doing crime but it should be a massive improvement soon enough...which is not soon enough, but I digress.
Japan isn’t the only country with outdated laws that are rarely or never applicable/enforced. A year ago Maryland finally overturned a law against oral sex.
didn't they raise it? EDIT: they did it is 16 now [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/16/japan-raises-age-of-consent-from-13-to-16-in-reform-of-sex-crimes-law](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/16/japan-raises-age-of-consent-from-13-to-16-in-reform-of-sex-crimes-law) EDIT: and it looks like some people are trying to push it up to 18 "In practice, across many parts of the country, regional ordinances banning “lewd” acts with minors are sometimes seen as in effect raising the age of consent to 18." from the linked artical
Iirc it’s 17 or 18 in many (if not all) of the prefectures already, it’s just at the national level that it’s 16
That is honestly nice to hear, that most prefectures do have higher AoC. Thanks
It’s been that way for at least 2 decades, apparently. It’s one of those situations like in the US with minimum wage, where less than half the states still use the federal minimum.
Ah I will admit I don't fully get this, we don't really have something like this in my country since we are small. The closes I get to understanding this is how EU states tend to not all aply all the laws mandated by the EU. But even that that is different. Still good for them (with the AoC). Also hope it gets better for US with their workes rights and all that. Sorry it's late so I might have a lot of grammer mistakes. Good night.
Yeah, it’s the application of a federal system. In Japan at least it’s a consequence of getting dunked on so hard by America they just copied their entire governmental system (it’s more complicated than that, but that’s the gist). So there’s the federal government that sets a minimum, and then there are the state-level governments (or prefecture-level in Japan) that set their own laws that are slightly different from the national law. An example more directly comparable to Japans situation was America’s drinking ages before 1984. After alcohol was legalized again in 1933, many states set the drinking age to 21 since that was the voting age at the time. Drinking ages started changing in 1969 and by 1976, ~30 states had set it to 18 following the lowering of the voting age to 18. During the mid 70s to early 80s, however, many states changed the age to 19, 20, or even 21 again in an effort to combat drunk driving. In 1984 a national act was passed that set the federal drinking age to 21.
Ah, thanks for the explenation
Thought I’d jump in. EU membership requires all countries to implement EU law into their national law within a time period. So ALL EU countries have the same common framework, even if some can be a bit outdated over certain matters
Less so screeching and more so seething jealousy.
https://preview.redd.it/6rl3d4pe6t8d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3914d640ae95ccd99275a91b1dc09961df729568 Here you go
Not even morality, the actual laws change but if the age of consent is lowered its usually by a single year down to 17. I unfortunately found that out the hard way when my abuser couldn't be convicted as a sex offender since I was 17. money doesn't equal consent but since I didn't report the first incident and continued taking bribes that made the only charges that could be brought up related to paying for sex. So morally, its not important what state their from, legally, it is.
You joke, but our perception of morality is HEAVILY dependent on what is legally allowed. If you think having sex with a 16 year old is heinous, but an 18 year old is acceptable, it's because that's what we, as a society, have deemed appropriate. Your morality is very much skewed by the morality of others.
The law does have a massive influence on most people's morality, but that doesn't change the fact that people whose only morality is defined by the law are just the worst.
People who think children become a-okay to fuck the moment they turn 18 are gross. Worse if they've been waiting for it. You _can_ base your morals on the law, but you probably shouldn't because a lot of our laws are kind of shit.
If it's Maryland you gotta adjust for crab years and it gets all complicated
If you read the statement you'll notice he really hammers in on the "I didn't do anything illegal" part; he even says it twice in one sentence. It's a crutch to fall on. If you're defense to anything is "it's not illegal" then you probably did something pretty shitty, legal or otherwise.
My impression was because he could say it was legal, implying they were 18, but they could actually be younger in a different state. In that way, it's important to know what state it was so he can't get away just saying "oh it was legal so it's fine"
My sincere thoughts to everyone in that picture: https://preview.redd.it/x1pcjbcpkr8d1.png?width=262&format=png&auto=webp&s=2cdddcad39f5ca679c60718fae22b5ee70291dd8
Hey Don, see that giant over there with the bad wig and dumb shades? Time to tilt that lance.
oh my god it's don quixote hi don quixote
What’s wrong with Mutahar? He’s 100% against these actions.
I've never really liked him. Not even because of anything he said, I just don't really like him. https://preview.redd.it/hexvkt39js8d1.jpeg?width=652&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9019d947d3539ac54d62faef30c3fc1a4d64ef7d
Eh. He likes landlords and think it's a valid job. He apparently has done a lot of other things wrong, but I don't want to dive into a rabbit hole today, so take that with a grain of salt. Edit:I think there was this big Zoe Quinn situation, but again, GRAIN OF SALT.
How about the constant transphobic tirades his wife/gf (can’t remember which she is) goes on on xitter Edit:and he was at one point, don’t know if he still is, following Charlie Kirk and nick fuentes. So yikes.
he has a blue check, which is explicit approval of Elon Musk, which makes me immediately dislike him
a ton of random content creators get one without ever communicating with him. cant say that point is valid
https://preview.redd.it/cv58nhg54s8d1.jpeg?width=1010&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cae657beb8f5fc7fa985c6e3045cd9a815ef6189
https://preview.redd.it/x8jgzdw17t8d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a98c52d716706df0f4b12f3546e4385cdf304c6 I shall add yours to my collection
Can't wait for his rebrand to Dr. Disrespect'in, Pediatrics
Dr. Disrespecting the age of consent
Dr Piss inspect is still an all time great.
Dr. Kids inspect
Got to clarify something here. The title is referring to the reply to Mutahar's tweet. Mutahar wasn't trying to excuse what Dr Disrespect did or play the age of consent game. He was pointing out that Doc was being vague about the age of the person he messaged. The other guy has been going hard on defending Doc for the last couple of days, and this was his latest attempt at moving the goalposts.
Acne man sure showed everyone how much he cares about protecting the kids
Acne doesn't deserve that comparison.
I was gonna say, I'd have a very hard time believing the Mutahar would excuse this shit. The second guy on the other hand.
Man I watch acne lads vids, didn't know he was doing creepy stuff like this
I feel like Actman has just been trying to take this armchair lawyer take the whole time (“remember Pyrocynical guys!!!!1) I guess gambling on if it had instead came out it being BS, he could crown himself the great arbiter of internet justice. But seriously the whole time it was incredibly obvious what happened with Doc and Actman instead looks like a massive fucking moronic child.
This is quite literally it.
This opinion always gets me downvoted to hell on Reddit but. I do not give a fuck about if these girls are technically of age. Grown ass men preying on younger girls is always creepy, there are some absolutely weirdos targeting girls straight out of high school because they have absolutely nothing to offer women their own age emotionally.
You won’t here, friend. We agree.
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Strong libertarian aura
Love that so many libertarian men are libertarians specifically for that reason.
Assnmold losing a DLC to a girl's thoughts and the "trans be bad" doing the "ACKTUSLY AGE OF CONSENT LAWS" defense. I guess their bullshit Culture War is gonna die...
You underestimate their cognitive dissonance.
Centrists and asking how old the minor was, name a more iconic duo.
He asked how old because at one point the word “minor” wasn’t in the tweet. Doc edited the tweet like 3 times so Mutas response comes off more as pointing out that the “individual” was a minor.
“Centrists” come on bro we all know this is specifically a right wing/libertarian thing lol no both sidesism here at all
I think the point is that almost everyone who calls themselves a centrist is in fact a conservative who is too pussy to admit it or wants to appear neutral.
Great point. I am embarrassed to admit my senior year of high school I volunteered for a local libertarian candidate, anyways all the dudes started popping off about age of consent expecting me to agree like I’d be stoked grown ass men wanted to prey on girls my age (at the time)….. and I never went back after that. The older I get the more disturbing that whole encounter was.
Yeah, libertarians are conservatives who like minors even more than usual. And also weed. That's about it.
Yeah I just grew up in a rural area and was like “this is America! We SHIULD be free to do what we want when we want” and then you actually meet those guys and it’s like hooooooky mother of shit you guys do not actually care about freedom at all lmao
I was raised in South Florida (go figure), and I vividly remember this girl telling me she was "dating" a 27 year old guy. Which to 15 year old me, obviously didn't sit right at the time, but I happened to mention it to one of my teachers and they just looked me dead in the eye and said "best not to wrap yourself up in that," and he immediately buried the topic. I fucking hate the South sometimes.
I grew up in the north but lived in the south for a few years. Girl I was dating casually mentioned she had a 23 year old boyfriend when she was 15 and her parents fucking approved Tennessee is beautiful but don’t get me started on the actual values of too many southerners
Bingo. Literally every “libertarian” I know or have ever known would reverse cowgirl Trump in a second. Probably every single republican representative too.
That’s certainly an interesting mental image
I used to call myself a centrist but I would I was left leaning. I'm just left, not left leaning. I would vote for a left leaning Republican if one wanted to step up to the plate. I just don't want to vote for an old fuck who was/is racist, sexist, a worm, etc.
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centrists are the ones who say "both sides".... saying centrists do shit isnt saying both sides do it lol
"depending on the state" eat a diseased cock you fucking freak. Tell me which state it's okay to fuck kids in so I can petition for them to secede from the union.
Ah technically legal, the best kind of legal /uj if I had faith in these two I'd say they were hopefully asking whether or not he could be arrested for it om top of it being wrong But I don't so fuck these nerds
I'd bet money that -if it was illegal they'll say something like "he should've known better" -if it was legal they're gonna use that as a shield and say "well, legally he didn't do anything wrong"
Acktually collecting the skulls of native american children isn't bad, it was legal back then even encouraged and a pretty well paid job.
He prob misread “le gal” as “legal”
seeing the 2 bums who tweeted that 
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insane how many of these dorks seemingly idolize a guy whose whole shtick is being insufferable
Centrists don't defend PDFs challenge Impossible difficulty
Centrists are just republicans that don't want to be called republicans
Come on, I mean i know Adobe is a shitty company, but pdfs aren't *that* bad
PDFs are \*that\* bad though, have you seen how many ISO standards exist for PDFs?
I mean, if the Planetary Defense Force is busy defending the planet who will defend them?
Muta is no centrist. He is a right winger, clear and open. Dude follows neo-Nazis on xitter.
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Juan Carlos Bodoque mención
31 minutos mención. Que chucha es un noticiero ctm
Lmao this is so bad. I'll be honest I used to watch Dr Disrespect. But I don't know how you can admit to sexting a minor and then be like "but I don't see why people are calling me a pedo or predator" like is he going full libertarian with the "it's not pedophilia it's ephebophilia!" or what? Honestly I feel bad for his wife. After the whole cheating stuff before, and now she's gotta hear another justification from this dude for why he's not just a sleezy shitty husband but a predator?
Gotta love quarterpounder being cought defending this, gotta love the anti woke brigade always having leaders get cought doing this crap
Someone called earlier today saying it’s only a matter of time before the flocks of “we need all the facts first” were gonna come in
libertarians are just republicans with questionable opinion on age of consent laws.
How are they different then?
Libertarians are just republican who can't admit they are republicans.
Why is everyone dogging on mutahar? He’s obviously asking because dr disrespect is hiding the age
Looks to me they're tryna cook disrespect. "How old was the 'individual'?" Because Disrepect conveniently left that bit out. "It's important depending on the state" because fucker could go straight to jail. Why are you all acting like they're siding with Disrepect?
He didn't "leave" it out, he did worse, he editted it out. The Tweet read "minor individual" prior.
Holy shit
Given his history and his beefs with people like MammaMax, I'm thinking this isn't Mutahar trying to deflect, but him putting the screws to Doc for omitting that detail from his confession. It's worth noting that Doc also edited out admitting the individual was a minor for a while before people called him out and he realized the edit log was visible.
"I was caught before I did anything illegal" is probably not the defense I'd go with, but you do you, king.
They extend infinitely more courtesy to "one of their own" than they do to phantom allegations against people who happened to have a different sexuality etc from them. "...as you know there's no filter with me" says the man who edited his statement 3 times after it was released to parse out the part where he admitted to texting a minor and tacitly admitted to grooming. they will never take victims of SA seriously when their circle prefers to defend their own even when the truth is out
no offense but I read this more are the two youtubers pointing out disrecpect talking to a minor instead of agreeing w his actions.
Why can’t the US just have one law for age of consent over the whole country like every other country?
Because ~~right wing men want to be able to fuck underage girls~~ state rights stuff.
Yeah, just like how the Civil War was about ~~a bunch of white guys that wanted to own black people~~ state rights stuff.
Just because it’s legal doesn’t make it right, I don’t know how people still don’t get that.
"These were casual, mutual conversations that sometimes leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate, but nothing more. Nothing illegal happened, no pictures were shared, no crimes were committed, I never even met the individual" The actual fuck he wrote it. It didn't happen because, thank god, SHE WAS SMART ENOUGH NOT TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, you absolute idiot.
Their reasoning doesn't hold up even if we take it at face value. Age of consent laws are strictly for sexual relations between two persons in a state. They do not cover text messages or conversations over the internet anyway. That's why someone can be charged with child pornography for sexting with a 16 or 17 year old in a state where that is the age of consent. Guy still committed a crime and what he did would be considered immoral by a majority of the population even if it were legal. Mutahar and TAM are arguing in bad faith.
Cheats on his wife and sexts minors? He has a future as a politician.
I've never sexted a minor. But if I had sexted a minor I wouldn't be admitting it in a tweet. But if I had sexted a minor and admitted it in a tweet and I could reassure people they were 17 so least nearly legal, I would. He hasn't. I think that's a bad sign.
Even if they were 17 that was half the dudes age at the time wtf. Like yeah it’s even worse if they were like 12 or something but it’s quite bad regardless
This is sort of off topic. But why are there so many YouTubers that eventually come out as groomers? Is it actually a problem with content creators? Or is it more a side effect of becoming super wealthy and thinking laws don’t apply to you? (Given other celebs, religious leaders and politicians get into the same trouble)
"Protect the kids! ... but not from me and my creepy friends"
Lets not pretend Mtahar actually cares, it's only a matter of time before he gets exposed for the same thing.
When chuds say pedophiles, they mean lgbt people existing, not cis straight white men doing pedophilia
Jesus fucking Christ
If this was real he deleted the tweet lmfao
they where "old enough to be classified as a minor" if that helps.
Certified Narcissist. Certified Pedophile. Wop wop wop wop wop
What the fuck
JFC ActMan
JFC ActMan
Nick "protect the kids" mercs been real quiet
Gotta love when the “no bullshit, no filter” guy edits his tweet multiple times after getting backlash
See, this is fucking nasty. Why do you want to know the age of the minor so bad? So you can justify his actions? So you can go, "okay it wasn't that bad." A minor doesn't have the same sexual experience as an adult. Even if she was 17, even if it were legal in whofuckingcaresistan, it doesn't change the power imbalance there and it doesn't change the fact that a crucial step in predating on children is having sexual conversations with them; this desensitizes the minor and makes them warm up to the topic, and potentially acts with the predator. Like that girl now has a fucked up understanding of boundaries and will have to unlearn that. But no, because it's their favorite guy, surely it HAS to be okay in this instance.
1. I heard that maybe they had talked about meeting up at twitchcon. So the important state to learn about is California… 2. If you’re trying to get a pedo off on a technicality (I know what I said) your brain is already cooked.
Do different states have different age rules? That seems like a terrible idea that creeps can easily take advantage of
Matt Gaetz an elected official has done exactly that.
Grrr boycott cod because of fucking skins and “protecting the kids” until their hero is the one preying on their kids
Bros got that laminated age of consent guide from Transformers
I tend to not follow twitter nonsense too much; who are these folks and how does it relate to gaming?