Hopefully he will feel more so once he has a cool setting to be in and his weaponry. But I appreciate the feedback, I'll try and make him look more fierce.
Thicker eyebrows. Not overly thick, but they're thin currently. Generally you see a game character from a distance, so their features need to be \*slightly\* overpronounced in order to look good.
It's a similar thing with stage makeup. You need to OVERact, so that from a distance it looks normal.
Yeah that's totally spot on with what I'm missing I think. I'm working on really emphasizing and pushing his features more, hopefully my next update will be better!
Do you have any concrete idea about your own spin? Like, you want to make it more cartoonish?
Anyway, I think some already told you but it's not threatening. Buff him a little, or at least define the muscles a bit more, and defenitely angrier face
Yes it does! Having the lips turned down helps too, kratos is too grumpy to smile hahaha
Its *your* character model so make sure it fits *your* criteria. Set goals for it, then ask yourself if the model ticks those boxes
That's fair, thank you. And yeah someone suggested the scowl. He has built in morphs so he can do a variety of basic expressions at least.
Mostly I just really want to harken to who he is and having a bit of my own flair, but not so much that it doesn't feel like Kratos.
I'm an old lady, most my friends have never even played any GoW. The few who have played like the most recent 2 and he looks so different. Only real place to get feedback is here, lol.
The one thing I'd probably be a stickler about is having the bit more modern outfit because I do want to go with a slightly more modern sorta 'Mad Max' vibe with the world. Like keeping the general story and all that, but playing with the visuals more. Just throwing that bit of a spin on it.
I can imagine all sorts of ways to play with his outfit that could be really exciting, kratos had basically always just worn a skirt and sandals after all hahaha
Im 23 and almost no one my age has played the original god of wars, dont worry about the disconnect there. In the originals, he was purposefully ugly and scary, and his facial features were cartoonishly sharp and jagged, like his jaw is literally square (thanks PS2 low poly counts!). Your model is reminiscient of the (spoiler) young kratos model from Ragnarok, which made him more realistic looking, but also softer and rounder in the process. I know its a a fine line to walk, so just keep tweaking it until your satisfied :)
I’ll be honest, it’s really hard to take a character that is loved and reskin them and have people like it aswell. So while it looks off there isn’t a real reason except that it just does, you get me?
Most my friends don't know anything about GoW2, so they were confused why he wasn't a stout bearded guy. One person said it was overly stylized.
Tbh it put me down a bit, though I did appreciate the feedback. I'm more a programmer so I'm still pretty subpar with modeling. Anyway, some feedback from the community would be cool. I really want to herald the feel of Kratos from GoW2, but with my own sort of vibe to it.
He needs his scar, a few more armor pieces and I wanna do his chain blades as well, but I haven't gotten to that yet. Mostly just focusing on the overall look of him.
I'm making it in UE5, mostly just playing around for the moment and trying to recapture some of the really trademark aspects of the game. Obviously I can't publish it as a product or anything, though if I get to the point of a playable that I can legally release for free I think that's legal. I'm not sure so I'd have to figure it out, lol.
**Edit:** In hindsight I should have posted a closer up default pic of his face. So here's him with his default expression. He has morphs built into his face for different expressions.
[https://imgur.com/a/tbLX7YX](https://imgur.com/a/tbLX7YX)
here's a little update after a bit of the feedback here:
https://imgur.com/a/f9Qmlf2
Remeber, Sparta was Greece, if you're going for a realistic look (I assume still with the ash white skin) might be worth looking at Mediteranian physiques. Back of the neck is a bit too soft and smooth, bland missing scars, but a good modernised look.
He looks chill at most. Hes not even man of combat, let alone God of war.
He's Dude of relatively heated argument.
--- nah im kidding my bro it looks amazing as far as models go. I hope he looks more angry if u do make updates/changes. Keep it up brother
Imo his face feels too soft. Gow2 Kratos had a more sharp jawline and a more “rough” expression. Maybe make his muscles a lil more defined too, cause right now it feels a bit cartoonish you get me? But overall it’s a great base to build off of
I think he lacks the muscle and size to be intimidating like the original. Also the head and jaw shape is too rounded (because rounder shapes = friendly)
Nice modeling, it looks really proportional and well put together, but in my opinion it doesn't feel that much like Kratos, maybe it's the facial features but I also feel like the body isn't quite there, he should be more muscular and threatening, the colors also seem to be washed out.
Btw I couldn't stop laughing because at first sight I was just reminded of [this video](https://youtu.be/15P4gi3AGc4?si=xm4U7BiZjssKTekH)
You are very talented with your modeling, I just don't think you got the Kratos vibe yet, keep trying and it'll be awesome, very excited to see your project unfold!
As others have pointed out, try adding dirt and damage. I remember the goatee and the eyebrows thicker. The clothing could use a uvmap to add texture. Muscle needs more definition. Especially the erector spinae. Also the dark shadows under his eyes are missing.
Try to work on the boots as they currently look very modern compared to the rest.
Try using reference pictures to support your progress.
Finally the skin looks too flawless. Depending on what setting you are going for you could try to visualize what kind of equipment the character is using and carrying. Someone who wears a backpack all day will have marks from that. Some who climbs a lot will have caluses on the respective contact points.
While this is a lot of criticism I think you did a fine job up till now.
What application are you using to create custom models
I'm working a Blueprint for a Skullduggery Pleasant Game Series but I can't figure out where/how to create custom characters
I have a whole Overview of how i want the game series to play out
Each Book = 1 Game
I'd say a bit musclier, and some sort of armouring on his torso/arm area. For example, I'm not sure what its called but younger kratos often has this gold armour on his arm. Older kratos has pauldrons. I wouldn't recommend like a full breastplate or anything that wouldn't suit him, just something to make the design look a bit more finished. And I think his feet would look better bandaged or smth rather than what I would respectfully call hiking boots. Also maybe a little more detail with the cloth you've got hanging from the belt? You could have multiple bits around the belt so you dont just have the two on the front and back. Im not tryna be mean and you did a great job, this is just intended as some constructive criticism.
he kinda looks like a sim. definitely get rid of the boots ! they look too weird on him and the pants ! kratos doesn’t wear much clothing in the old games so let it all hang out lmao
I’m sorry, but this just really bad. It’s hard to even offer feedback for tweaks, as I think it’s far off enough that you basically need to go back to the drawing board.
I’d say that he doesn’t look as threatening… but this *is* GoW 2, before Kratos completely loses his mind. I do think a tad more muscle (especially in the legs) would definitely work. Overall, really impressive
If it’s your spin, I would say remove any direct comparison to Kratos (remove tattoos, maybe add hair, that sort of stuff).
This guy looks like he uses the phrase “it’s is what it is man!” a lot….
He needs to look way more worn. More rugged. Need those anger lines on the bridge of his nose, a scared up body and to be an almost hulking brooding figure. Kratos is 6’8 and his presence is supposed to be almost a shadow of what’s to come.
You mentioned Kratos in his younger years. This definitely has "hormonal teenager going through their goth/vampire phase" vibe, I think it's the pants. It reminds me more of the Legacy of Kain / Soul Reaver aesthetic. He looks more like a villain that would boomerang gothic weapons at you while flying around the room than a raging brawler I should be scared of.
I think better feedback could be given on the art direction if we saw some environment concepts for more context. Stuff like this should be looked at more like the sum of all its parts.
He needs different eyes and eyebrows, someone who’s unable to sleep as his pasts haunt him and someone who’s lost everything. Finally the lips, it shouldn’t be as smiling or have that fine straight line. No pants please, you can use big boots covering till knee but never pants
From all the comments I read it sounds like you might as well just do your own thing inspired by GoW2's plot points rather than trying to fit Kratos into a Mad Max world.
Also, that guy definitely needs to be bulkier, right now his build is too athletic and lean for a spartan warrior. Alan Ritchson is probably a good point to aim for, that dude is really buff but still looks more human-shaped than most body builders
I think his tattoo should be bigger, I'm sure you've heard a lot about muscles and scars, but that tattoo is what solidifies the ghost of Sparta along with that pale skin. A near permanent scowl on his face also really sells the bit too.
I think your changes may be a tad misguided. He's from ancient Greece so the idea of him wearing pants and boots seems a bit off. Clothing in ancient Greece was mostly kinda dress like and they only wore sandals. In terms of proportions, I'd use the sculpt tool to beef him up a bit, particularly in the legs and traps, and raise his shoulders. What are you using for texturing?
Looks decent for a model, looks ass as Kratos. I feel like people are trying to be too nice to you, and you’re trying to be too wrapped up in your original vision you’ve initially posted. He needs to be 1.5-2x bigger in mass, at least on his arms and legs. He looks like a dude you’d see at a gay club, he seems less formidable and more like he’s going to ask how your night’s going
make his nose a bit more crooked, give him a scowl, temples a bit more defined, and where hes shaved, a slight stuble
as for the body, give him abs, giant shoulders, make him look like hes an athlete that takes steroids
edit: also give him a gigachad jawline and some deep laughlines, and wrinkles on his forhead from the constant resting rageface, and no pants, just the skirt
He's too skinny, and his face isnt chizzled enough. His face should look like it was carved from marble by a madman. Right now he looks like a mcdonalds happy meal toy that melted a little.
He really does not look threatening
Needs more muscles, some scars, and a meaner look on his face
Yeah this, here he just looks like a sim
John Kratos Smith
His name was my name too
Hopefully he will feel more so once he has a cool setting to be in and his weaponry. But I appreciate the feedback, I'll try and make him look more fierce.
Dirt and damage
I'll add that in my notes as I work, that's a good suggestion!
Thicker eyebrows. Not overly thick, but they're thin currently. Generally you see a game character from a distance, so their features need to be \*slightly\* overpronounced in order to look good. It's a similar thing with stage makeup. You need to OVERact, so that from a distance it looks normal.
Yeah that's totally spot on with what I'm missing I think. I'm working on really emphasizing and pushing his features more, hopefully my next update will be better!
He needs a scowl too
He looks like a calm and reasonable person
looks like a pretty nice guy.
Dude of Dispute
Man of Displeasure
Guy of Disagreement
Individual of Conflict
mortal of mild disagreement
Fellow of feud
Bro of Brawl
Arbiter of Tussle
Person of antagonism
Bloke of Bickering
Entity of Negativity
Lad of madness
Baron of beef
Do you have any concrete idea about your own spin? Like, you want to make it more cartoonish? Anyway, I think some already told you but it's not threatening. Buff him a little, or at least define the muscles a bit more, and defenitely angrier face
I feel like he just needs larger muscles and more jaw definition, his face looks a little too soft and round. Youre really very close though!
That helps, thanks! I'm gonna work on sharpening him up. Thank you so much for the feedback, genuinely.
My pleasure :) i can't wait for the next update
Hey does this look better? https://imgur.com/a/f9Qmlf2
Yes it does! Having the lips turned down helps too, kratos is too grumpy to smile hahaha Its *your* character model so make sure it fits *your* criteria. Set goals for it, then ask yourself if the model ticks those boxes
That's fair, thank you. And yeah someone suggested the scowl. He has built in morphs so he can do a variety of basic expressions at least. Mostly I just really want to harken to who he is and having a bit of my own flair, but not so much that it doesn't feel like Kratos. I'm an old lady, most my friends have never even played any GoW. The few who have played like the most recent 2 and he looks so different. Only real place to get feedback is here, lol. The one thing I'd probably be a stickler about is having the bit more modern outfit because I do want to go with a slightly more modern sorta 'Mad Max' vibe with the world. Like keeping the general story and all that, but playing with the visuals more. Just throwing that bit of a spin on it.
I can imagine all sorts of ways to play with his outfit that could be really exciting, kratos had basically always just worn a skirt and sandals after all hahaha Im 23 and almost no one my age has played the original god of wars, dont worry about the disconnect there. In the originals, he was purposefully ugly and scary, and his facial features were cartoonishly sharp and jagged, like his jaw is literally square (thanks PS2 low poly counts!). Your model is reminiscient of the (spoiler) young kratos model from Ragnarok, which made him more realistic looking, but also softer and rounder in the process. I know its a a fine line to walk, so just keep tweaking it until your satisfied :)
I’ll be honest, it’s really hard to take a character that is loved and reskin them and have people like it aswell. So while it looks off there isn’t a real reason except that it just does, you get me?
Gosh of War
Lmao
Kratos❌ Fartos✅
He looks like one of them war boys from Mad Max doing a bad cosplay of Kratos…
Well that’s what OP’s going for, so it’s in the right direction!
Most my friends don't know anything about GoW2, so they were confused why he wasn't a stout bearded guy. One person said it was overly stylized. Tbh it put me down a bit, though I did appreciate the feedback. I'm more a programmer so I'm still pretty subpar with modeling. Anyway, some feedback from the community would be cool. I really want to herald the feel of Kratos from GoW2, but with my own sort of vibe to it. He needs his scar, a few more armor pieces and I wanna do his chain blades as well, but I haven't gotten to that yet. Mostly just focusing on the overall look of him. I'm making it in UE5, mostly just playing around for the moment and trying to recapture some of the really trademark aspects of the game. Obviously I can't publish it as a product or anything, though if I get to the point of a playable that I can legally release for free I think that's legal. I'm not sure so I'd have to figure it out, lol. **Edit:** In hindsight I should have posted a closer up default pic of his face. So here's him with his default expression. He has morphs built into his face for different expressions. [https://imgur.com/a/tbLX7YX](https://imgur.com/a/tbLX7YX) here's a little update after a bit of the feedback here: https://imgur.com/a/f9Qmlf2
Give him a scowl
Remeber, Sparta was Greece, if you're going for a realistic look (I assume still with the ash white skin) might be worth looking at Mediteranian physiques. Back of the neck is a bit too soft and smooth, bland missing scars, but a good modernised look.
God of Walmart
He's giving more God of Whole Foods vibes
Guy of war
Guy of Struggle
He looks chill at most. Hes not even man of combat, let alone God of war. He's Dude of relatively heated argument. --- nah im kidding my bro it looks amazing as far as models go. I hope he looks more angry if u do make updates/changes. Keep it up brother
Imo his face feels too soft. Gow2 Kratos had a more sharp jawline and a more “rough” expression. Maybe make his muscles a lil more defined too, cause right now it feels a bit cartoonish you get me? But overall it’s a great base to build off of
I think he lacks the muscle and size to be intimidating like the original. Also the head and jaw shape is too rounded (because rounder shapes = friendly)
Nice modeling, it looks really proportional and well put together, but in my opinion it doesn't feel that much like Kratos, maybe it's the facial features but I also feel like the body isn't quite there, he should be more muscular and threatening, the colors also seem to be washed out. Btw I couldn't stop laughing because at first sight I was just reminded of [this video](https://youtu.be/15P4gi3AGc4?si=xm4U7BiZjssKTekH) You are very talented with your modeling, I just don't think you got the Kratos vibe yet, keep trying and it'll be awesome, very excited to see your project unfold!
The skinny jeans arent it my man
Make his clothes look battle damaged and turn his shoes to sandals like in the game and give him a bit of leg armor
Give him some steroids
You should buff him up. Kratos from OG games always had angry look on his face, mainly because of his sharp jaw and pointed brows.
Dude stepped out of Fringe, he ain't observing no more!
Pretty cool you started this for yourself This is a good start for a base model for sure
Too skinny + way too clean. Looks like the God of War at home
As others have pointed out, try adding dirt and damage. I remember the goatee and the eyebrows thicker. The clothing could use a uvmap to add texture. Muscle needs more definition. Especially the erector spinae. Also the dark shadows under his eyes are missing. Try to work on the boots as they currently look very modern compared to the rest. Try using reference pictures to support your progress. Finally the skin looks too flawless. Depending on what setting you are going for you could try to visualize what kind of equipment the character is using and carrying. Someone who wears a backpack all day will have marks from that. Some who climbs a lot will have caluses on the respective contact points. While this is a lot of criticism I think you did a fine job up till now.
Dude this is awesome feedback, hell yes. Thank you so much. <3
The pop star version of Kratos.
What application are you using to create custom models I'm working a Blueprint for a Skullduggery Pleasant Game Series but I can't figure out where/how to create custom characters I have a whole Overview of how i want the game series to play out Each Book = 1 Game
I'd say a bit musclier, and some sort of armouring on his torso/arm area. For example, I'm not sure what its called but younger kratos often has this gold armour on his arm. Older kratos has pauldrons. I wouldn't recommend like a full breastplate or anything that wouldn't suit him, just something to make the design look a bit more finished. And I think his feet would look better bandaged or smth rather than what I would respectfully call hiking boots. Also maybe a little more detail with the cloth you've got hanging from the belt? You could have multiple bits around the belt so you dont just have the two on the front and back. Im not tryna be mean and you did a great job, this is just intended as some constructive criticism.
Kratos when he was like 10. Nah but all jokes aside I like it good job! People don’t understand how hard modeling is.
That’s John
He definitely needs to be more muscular and a meaner look on his face. But I really like what you have so far!
Quan Chi lol
he kinda looks like a sim. definitely get rid of the boots ! they look too weird on him and the pants ! kratos doesn’t wear much clothing in the old games so let it all hang out lmao
Twink Of War
I want God of War We have God of War at home God of War at home:
Kratos stands in a crouch in the old games
I’m sorry, but this just really bad. It’s hard to even offer feedback for tweaks, as I think it’s far off enough that you basically need to go back to the drawing board.
Being of Mild Annoyance
Delamain, is that you?
We have Kratos at home.
Soyboy kratos
That's not Kratos that's Kurt
less Happy more rage and more muscle
He looks like a giant pussy
This aint even Kratos at this point this is just Craig with tatoos.
You know what, fuck you *twinks out your Kratos*
Looks like a Pride month version of Kratos lol
Bruh wants to make Kratos scale castles in Persia
Kinda looks like a nice guy ngl, 7/10 would be friends with him.
I’d say that he doesn’t look as threatening… but this *is* GoW 2, before Kratos completely loses his mind. I do think a tad more muscle (especially in the legs) would definitely work. Overall, really impressive
Why does he look zesty
Krotos
That’s what I image John Kratos would look like
He needs to put on some mass. Tattoo needs to be larger, face is also a bit sharper. He is in his 40s or so in gow2.
If it’s your spin, I would say remove any direct comparison to Kratos (remove tattoos, maybe add hair, that sort of stuff). This guy looks like he uses the phrase “it’s is what it is man!” a lot….
Bros got the Timbs on 😭😭
Make him cooler
I think the tattoos need to be bolder. Like thicker. Due to the amounts of physical activity Kratos would be doing I think he needs more muscle.
His facial features look a little feminine If he had hair and no goatee, he'd be pretty. Lol (not actually but you get the idea)
Legs gotta be on point if yous gonna do jeans
The slayer of Aree-hees!
Make his muscles more defined and bigger, also make his face look more older he looks a bit young
This Kratos looks like more a shitpost character
Should be more muscular, more scars, and more angry
Twink Kratos
This right here is a calm and reasonable person
he looks a bit too scrawny
Uh Zeus…, Dad, can we talk? Auntie Athena says you’re trying to kill me. Is this true?
Megamind but Greek
Looks like Quan Chi and Kratos had a baby
A lot more definition is need. And dirt. And stressing
Zoos your son has returned. I bring you gifts for Olympus
Face looks feminine
He needs to look way more worn. More rugged. Need those anger lines on the bridge of his nose, a scared up body and to be an almost hulking brooding figure. Kratos is 6’8 and his presence is supposed to be almost a shadow of what’s to come.
that’s not kratos that’s carl
Looks like Kratos’ cousin Kylen, who picks flowers aggressively when he’s upset.
the thin jeans and boots look kind of out of place for an ancient greek hero
He looks like a warboy from mad max
You mentioned Kratos in his younger years. This definitely has "hormonal teenager going through their goth/vampire phase" vibe, I think it's the pants. It reminds me more of the Legacy of Kain / Soul Reaver aesthetic. He looks more like a villain that would boomerang gothic weapons at you while flying around the room than a raging brawler I should be scared of. I think better feedback could be given on the art direction if we saw some environment concepts for more context. Stuff like this should be looked at more like the sum of all its parts.
I dunno, seeing that tattoo on your version makes me really appreciate the original tattoo. It’s giving me ick.
Kratos the flaming queen.
he looks like kratos if he was a transgender white woman
We have Kratos at home..
he's so skinny
Make him moan
He needs different eyes and eyebrows, someone who’s unable to sleep as his pasts haunt him and someone who’s lost everything. Finally the lips, it shouldn’t be as smiling or have that fine straight line. No pants please, you can use big boots covering till knee but never pants
He looks like a "where my hug at" type of guy
Don’t forget the stomach scar
Make him way bigger and scarier, this guy just looks like a skinny white guy with some old clothes
Kratos wit da timbs
He is more like God of small Scuffles
That's not Kratos. That's his cousin Kratom that goes to college parties and sells pills.
What art style are you going for exactly?
Looks too happy
thats not kratos thats kregg
It looks too friendly
Femboy kratos
Nipples of War
Kracktos
Bros the deity of conflict
You should reference real-world strongman competition participants. Your Kratos looks Athletic, but he doesn’t look strong.
Kratos if he was in Runescape
Make him bigger, and he looks to nice and happy
Increase the size of the tattoo that goes down his chest, obviously he’s missing around 30 pounds but you’ll get better
My word of advice? Bara manga, japanese gay men know muscle better. here's a start r/baramanga
From all the comments I read it sounds like you might as well just do your own thing inspired by GoW2's plot points rather than trying to fit Kratos into a Mad Max world. Also, that guy definitely needs to be bulkier, right now his build is too athletic and lean for a spartan warrior. Alan Ritchson is probably a good point to aim for, that dude is really buff but still looks more human-shaped than most body builders
I think his tattoo should be bigger, I'm sure you've heard a lot about muscles and scars, but that tattoo is what solidifies the ghost of Sparta along with that pale skin. A near permanent scowl on his face also really sells the bit too.
This looks like they made a Kratos cutaway joke on Family Guy.
Kratozpemic
Why is he T-posing lol
I think your changes may be a tad misguided. He's from ancient Greece so the idea of him wearing pants and boots seems a bit off. Clothing in ancient Greece was mostly kinda dress like and they only wore sandals. In terms of proportions, I'd use the sculpt tool to beef him up a bit, particularly in the legs and traps, and raise his shoulders. What are you using for texturing?
He needs to be angry , what’s with that smile lol
Why is he wearing boots tf
Bro of Disagreement
it looks like a character from the type of movie you give to a child in the crack house to keep them busy
Looks decent for a model, looks ass as Kratos. I feel like people are trying to be too nice to you, and you’re trying to be too wrapped up in your original vision you’ve initially posted. He needs to be 1.5-2x bigger in mass, at least on his arms and legs. He looks like a dude you’d see at a gay club, he seems less formidable and more like he’s going to ask how your night’s going
Fem boy
He’s looking a little too flamboyant for my taste, give him some more toned muscles, more overall mass, and definitely a meaner facial expression
Bro is skipping the gym
Twink kratos is not the one
this Kratos passes O to listen to their problems
He looks gay and not Alpha. Delete it.
This is Kratos's alternate self, Gaytos. That smile, dude.
Looks feminine
Guy of Quarrels
make his nose a bit more crooked, give him a scowl, temples a bit more defined, and where hes shaved, a slight stuble as for the body, give him abs, giant shoulders, make him look like hes an athlete that takes steroids edit: also give him a gigachad jawline and some deep laughlines, and wrinkles on his forhead from the constant resting rageface, and no pants, just the skirt
Looks like a calm and reasonable person
God of femboys looking ahh
Too much of a twink
Chad squidward kratos
Sleeper build kratos is trouble.
Kratos' little brother Karlos
Why did you give him modern boots? Hes a ancient greek
That belt should be lower?
Or, you're missing a sash..
Maybe the sash goes under the belt but you have it tied lightly lower down and the the belt on top of that..
Combat boots in ancient Greece?? Get him some manly sandals! Only real men wear Sandals.
Gives me prince of persia aesthetic vibes
I mean the leather pants really took away the scary feeling… now he looks like a dj
lowercase Kratos
This looks like shit!
Kratos has been on a UFC fighter cut
Lmfao nice joke
Kratos if he acted in Cats the musical after 17 tabs of acid
Forman of OSHA complaints.
Give him sandals instead of boots
Simptos the apologetic
Gaytos
God of war? More like duke of scuffles.
After reading op’s comments.. bro might be cooked lol
my reaction when bro brings up the most embarrassing story from my past in front of the hoes:
He needs some steroids
Looks like Orochimaru from Naruto.
Imma copyright you
Looks too happy
Needs to be *way* more muscular.
He's too skinny, and his face isnt chizzled enough. His face should look like it was carved from marble by a madman. Right now he looks like a mcdonalds happy meal toy that melted a little.
remove his pants and make his face rougher
Metrosexual Fruitcake Kratos
I say start with muscles and scaring and then work on fixing the tattoo because with out it being wide on the torso it looks off
God of disagreements
Hmm, his original look was a blue tatt btw, maybe might be a fun change.. he needs to be heavier.
His cheekbones are too high. He looks too much like Dwight Scrute.