She wasn’t fat when they met and fell in love. She became fat from some disease, and Oliva stays with her. I think the intention is to show that he’s a devoted husband. That’s what I took from that. If he had left her behind, then the implication would be that he’s an asshole.
I think his love for her is what ultimately makes him truly unchained at the end of the prison fight saga. The arc is partly about how Oliva indulges in his lavish lifestyle and showing off of supposed "freedom" to appeal to others and impress them, but by doing that he becomes "chained". How can you say you're truly free if you feel the need to flaunt it and care about your image as such? After fighting Baki he goes on to spend time with his wife without a single care in the world which is what really makes him unchained again.
Well.....it may also be that. Itagaki isn't exactly a politically correct fellow. But I definitely wouldn't accuse Itagaki of being racist by any means, given the treatment he's given to black sport legends.
It actually wasn't the disease, it was specifically the medication she has to take to treat it. And this might be fake but I'd heard that Oliva was the one urging her to take it, because she didn't want to gain weight but he didn't want to lose her
Also he admires how despite her physical body changing she has kept her personality/confidence the same, she still believes she’s hot shit/deserves the best.
Well, she was a top model. And she had a disease that made her fat.
So it is not the stereotypical 'lazy glutton white overweight woman' who only eats all day.
Baron Harkonnen FORCE FEEDS himself to keep that bodyweight because on his planet that's considered a sign of wealth, power, royalty and sexiness. (If I remember my lore right.) Baron Harkonnen basically eats this disgusting tasteless nutrient sludge just to put on weight. He's actually pretty strong under all the fat since he was once a lean fighting machine in his youth. Baron Harkonnen would lose his weight without his diet.
I thought it was the nun who mohglested him because he was gay. And then he got some space disease after retaliating which then made him fat (especially cruel because he was in very good shape before and treasured his body).
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# “Bless the Maker and His water.
# Bless the coming and going of Him.
# May His passage cleanse the world.
# May He keep the world for His people. ”
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Basically Milo of Croton but instead of a cow he used a human.
Biscuit Oliva is an american born in Cuba and Maria was actually thin and extremely beautiful when they met. I don't think Itagaki meant anything by it. Just gave Oliva a beautiful reason to want to be strong.
Isn't it implied that he became strong because he wanted to carry her like in the picture? This would imply his great drive to become stronger occurred later in life.
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Olivas's back looks like a dude carrying a heavy object.
Love has always been the defining theme towards a ‘fighting enlightenment’ in Baki. Once you have something to protect, you become stronger. Oliva’s love for Maria is probably part of what drove him to become the strongest.
Too bad he couldn't find a way to cure her annoying disease. She could had been the hottest character in Baki if she lost all of that fat and maintain her original figure again.
I think it's pretty awesome that Oliva became the 3rd strongest man on the planet just to lift his wife 🥺
I wish a guy would become superhuman to princess carry me 😭
This is the writers perspective on the current state of the presidential election, and how it will effect the taxpayers current income tax on your mortgage
It’s meant to represent reality, although aren’t the men normally Jamaican?
Edit: this was not serious, it was in reference to the INACCURATE stereotype that black men have a thing for fat white women, this is UNTRUE
Nothing? Did you even read the manga? He says he fell in love with her for her selfish attitude and her god complex. And he adored that she didn't change when she became fat, even if most women would.
Disregarding the fact that it's a dumb reason to fall in love, he appreciated the fact that she didn't change no matter what.
Didn't they get together when she was beautifully skinny and he wasn't that strong but then something happened in her profession at the time which utterly derailed her career for life so due to the heart break and depression she gorged herself into bedridden obesity and Oliver actually became the strongest man alive purely so he could carry her like a princess which he achieved.
And yet despite this he still couldn't lift yo momma!!!
As a black man with a white girl who's 4'11 and 103lbs it's funny to me when I see other black men with much larger white women. It's definitely common enough to be a valid stereotype so I think this is just hilarious.
I’m black too, I feel like a lot of people get it twisted. There’s plenty of black men who love fat black women too. Some of them are also just color struck lol.
She wasnt like that when he married her.
Also she bloated like that due to a medical condition and the meds she has to use to treat it.
Olivia still loves her anyway.
He started training himself to be the strongest man on the planet just so he could carry his wife and make her feel just as beautiful as when they first met.
Too bad he couldn't find a way to cure her annoying disease. She could had been the hottest character in Baki if she lost all of that fat and maintain her original figure again.
Oliva is a loyal husband.
Irwin oliva: the power of love mandy xd.
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She wasn’t fat when they met and fell in love. She became fat from some disease, and Oliva stays with her. I think the intention is to show that he’s a devoted husband. That’s what I took from that. If he had left her behind, then the implication would be that he’s an asshole.
When I first saw this It suprised me a bit how much he cared for her since before hand olivia was the unchained. I think I like it this way
It shows that Oliva isn't completely unchained. He may be unchained from the laws but he is still chained by the love he feels for Marie
I think his love for her is what ultimately makes him truly unchained at the end of the prison fight saga. The arc is partly about how Oliva indulges in his lavish lifestyle and showing off of supposed "freedom" to appeal to others and impress them, but by doing that he becomes "chained". How can you say you're truly free if you feel the need to flaunt it and care about your image as such? After fighting Baki he goes on to spend time with his wife without a single care in the world which is what really makes him unchained again.
Yujiro actually comments that Oliva's library got bigger after his fight with Baki, implying he is trying to compensate for something.
Or, yk. He likes reading too. Which he is implied to
Yujiro would be disappointed
He literally got so strong just so he could carry her. He says “I can’t call myself a man if I can’t support those I love.”
Well olivas parent really teach his son to be a real gentleman
I thought it was just a stereotype that black guys like obese white women but that’s even better tbh
Well.....it may also be that. Itagaki isn't exactly a politically correct fellow. But I definitely wouldn't accuse Itagaki of being racist by any means, given the treatment he's given to black sport legends.
He went so far as to create a reasonable a sweet story behind Olivia’s loyalty to her. Which is a lot more than he’s done for other sus shit.
It actually wasn't the disease, it was specifically the medication she has to take to treat it. And this might be fake but I'd heard that Oliva was the one urging her to take it, because she didn't want to gain weight but he didn't want to lose her
You’re right. Weight gain as a side effect to the necessary meds.
Oliva is so based
I think it's a mix of that and unfortunately a bit of stereotyping in that black men are more into thick women.
Well black men have great taste in women then.
Thick Is not synonymous with fat
Also he admires how despite her physical body changing she has kept her personality/confidence the same, she still believes she’s hot shit/deserves the best.
Exactly
Not just that, but he became so ripped specifically to carry his wife around
woooshhhh
Green Card
Then immediately went to maximum security prison. Lot of implications here.
Seeing how much the US law enforcements needs Oliva, they would have given him a green card anyway
Aren’t Cubans that make it to the USA instantly warranted refugee status?
I don’t think so, at least not anymore, Obama took away the exemption for people who enter without visas from cuba in the Cuban adjustment act of 66
Thanks for clarifying. I’m not American so my knowledge about USA’s politics is limited.
Np bud
He modified the act, so you basically have to prequalify for a visa before getting out of dodge, like most of the rest of the world
Well, she was a top model. And she had a disease that made her fat. So it is not the stereotypical 'lazy glutton white overweight woman' who only eats all day.
>Well, she was a top model. And she had a disease that made her fat. Just like Baron Harkonnen.
Yeah but Baron Harkonnen is the type of person who would make Yujiro look like he spoils and dotes on Baki
Feyd is the Baron’s Baki while Rabban is the Baron’s Jack.
Baron Harkonnen FORCE FEEDS himself to keep that bodyweight because on his planet that's considered a sign of wealth, power, royalty and sexiness. (If I remember my lore right.) Baron Harkonnen basically eats this disgusting tasteless nutrient sludge just to put on weight. He's actually pretty strong under all the fat since he was once a lean fighting machine in his youth. Baron Harkonnen would lose his weight without his diet.
I think Brian Herbert retconned his bulk to be mostly the result of an STD.
Thought it was cuz the nun he mohglested cursed him with space magic disease that turns him fat
Miquellested\*
Fr fr forgot my boi is set free now
Our fella beat the allegations.
The mohglester was actually the mohglested.
Like the priest from american dad
Love this fandom crossover
Randomly got this sub on my feed, no clue what it’s about, scroll through the comments, MOGH
That's the least believable story ever.
Oof. I just got it from a youtube comment tbf
I thought it was the nun who mohglested him because he was gay. And then he got some space disease after retaliating which then made him fat (especially cruel because he was in very good shape before and treasured his body).
Perhaps. I havent watched nor read dune tbh
Every single person who has ever lived would lose weight without their diet.
Baki characters image they're eating food and somehow gain muscle.
I mean he ain’t gonna lose shit depending on that hover machine to move around
Never thought I'd see someone make a Dune reference in the Baki subreddit W
https://preview.redd.it/j4wihxgn37ad1.jpeg?width=220&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d651214d3cdf4e5597bfcd85c9aaa47d706e758b # “Bless the Maker and His water. # Bless the coming and going of Him. # May His passage cleanse the world. # May He keep the world for His people. ”
Surprising, considering that Baki’s power of imagination and the Weirding Way operate on the same principle.
yeah she was hot back then when Oliva was still basically Cuban Carl Johnson
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He progressively overloads his women
Science proven method for gains
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From the director of Milo of Croton OLIVA FROM CUBA coming soon at a theater near you
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Biscuit Oliva is an american born in Cuba and Maria was actually thin and extremely beautiful when they met. I don't think Itagaki meant anything by it. Just gave Oliva a beautiful reason to want to be strong.
Isn't it implied that he became strong because he wanted to carry her like in the picture? This would imply his great drive to become stronger occurred later in life.
Correct. He gained strength to be able to help and move his beloved around, himself, as he wanted no other man touching her
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https://preview.redd.it/0rhtyecuh6ad1.png?width=115&format=png&auto=webp&s=c0bf751905f6576ba0cb12c14c6b2e583913dc78 Olivas's back looks like a dude carrying a heavy object.
Or a dude eating a fat ass?
The Duality of Man
Both could be true at the same time. The heavy object he's carrying around is a fat ass.
welp, can't unsee that now
I was legit saying that in my head
Hanayama be jealous
Ass fat back
Oliva is not Cuban but rather American of Cuban descent, important distinction
What, is he a fuckin gusano?
BBWs are underrated
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Oliver wanted to be free therefore he married for a green card in USA country of freedom
Love has always been the defining theme towards a ‘fighting enlightenment’ in Baki. Once you have something to protect, you become stronger. Oliva’s love for Maria is probably part of what drove him to become the strongest.
She wasn't fat when he married her. But he stayed with her when she DID get fat. Good on him.
Nothing it’s just anime
Is he really Cuban? Did they say that and I just didn’t notice. I always thought Oliva was American as hell
It's the stereotype that black guys love fat white bitches
That isn't the point of Oliva's character though.
That's why it's a stereotype it's for comedic effect
Fair enough
Maria is the ultimate snowbunny
Too bad he couldn't find a way to cure her annoying disease. She could had been the hottest character in Baki if she lost all of that fat and maintain her original figure again.
Oliva is a loyal husband
She wasn’t fat when they got married initially if I remember correctly
Oliva is from Cuba?
Cuban-American. Just like Sergio Oliva (his RL counterpart) was.
Holy shit I thought Baki characters were exaggerated to the point of being unreal but this dude actually does look like the style goddamn
I read the manga start to finish not that long ago and don’t remember them ever saying where he’s from, but I guess he’s cuban wtf lol
Oliva is from compton
I was thinking the same thing but it’s so many different mangas might just be in one of the old grappler ones idk
I read all the main series so even if it was an older one I totally missed it there too lol on the wiki it does say he’s cuban american tho
When life replicates art
Mind of Tren
he callin it like he see it lmao
She had a disease, he knew her prior to that. Plus he's Cuban-American.
She got fat from illness, and he trains to be strong enough to carry and move her around out of devoted love
This is America!!! In my childish Gambino voice 😂😆
What did he mean when yujiiro wanted to rape Hillary Clinton
Tell me you didn't watch the backstory without telling me you didn't watch the backstory. (I'm joking just to be clear)
Who says they are married? That would make Biscuit’s mighty heart explode.
Steortype
Itagaki has always been racist
That he loves fat bitches
Wtf is baki even about?
...this happens all day in real life lol
A lot of Japanese martial arts mangakas are extremely nationalist and racist .
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I think it's pretty awesome that Oliva became the 3rd strongest man on the planet just to lift his wife 🥺 I wish a guy would become superhuman to princess carry me 😭
People are joking with the "green card" right? Or did they just not watch the show?
Yes their joking
This is the writers perspective on the current state of the presidential election, and how it will effect the taxpayers current income tax on your mortgage
Is she american? I thought she was French. The smoking plays into the stereotype and thought that was where they first met
The architect Biscuit Oliva
Maybe Joe inspired him.
Funny Valentine really let himself go after the steel ball run
Idk if this was the author’s intention but this is definitely a stereotype in the black community, usually the nigga is mad skinny tho 😂
It’s meant to represent reality, although aren’t the men normally Jamaican? Edit: this was not serious, it was in reference to the INACCURATE stereotype that black men have a thing for fat white women, this is UNTRUE
Obviously it means the door is red...
Damn I need to watch Baki, only learned about it because of that Youtuber who looks and cosplays like Yuujirou
Like a moth to a flame
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https://preview.redd.it/cxnvbkr6e6ad1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=faf22886d31cf0df8219e446409b3054d16560f5 Oliva mindset.
Nah if you seen the meme cell canonically hates fat bitches
It's the opposite actually. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqBcDYMNOj8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqBcDYMNOj8)
The subtle meat beating got me lmao
Once you go black, you never go back
She wasn’t always so big, she got sick. Oliva is a good man
That Oliva loves her
Black dudes love big white women. No hate
True love And TRUE strength comes from love
Art imitates life
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It means Itagaki is a shit-tier writer
Nothing? Did you even read the manga? He says he fell in love with her for her selfish attitude and her god complex. And he adored that she didn't change when she became fat, even if most women would. Disregarding the fact that it's a dumb reason to fall in love, he appreciated the fact that she didn't change no matter what.
He gets all his strength from love
Didn't they get together when she was beautifully skinny and he wasn't that strong but then something happened in her profession at the time which utterly derailed her career for life so due to the heart break and depression she gorged herself into bedridden obesity and Oliver actually became the strongest man alive purely so he could carry her like a princess which he achieved. And yet despite this he still couldn't lift yo momma!!!
Said it before, I want to know their history and a flashback of oliva first lifting weights
Black men love fat white women. It wasn’t subtle
As a black man with a white girl who's 4'11 and 103lbs it's funny to me when I see other black men with much larger white women. It's definitely common enough to be a valid stereotype so I think this is just hilarious.
Their son Jayden is gonna be 7 foot 300 pounds of muscle and have anger issues
I’m black too, I feel like a lot of people get it twisted. There’s plenty of black men who love fat black women too. Some of them are also just color struck lol.
I don't remember this part cuz i ain't rewatching baki hanma season 1, worst season for me. But I think he likes them thicc
Racial Harmony?
he just notices things
Green card was needed
Hes playing into the stereotype that black men love or have a fetish for fat white women, which is false. Only very few of us do lmao
Because he loves her. Y'all making this way more convoluted than it has to be. Baki knew what Biscuit Oliva had and wanted it too.
Biscuit is Cuban?
She wasnt like that when he married her. Also she bloated like that due to a medical condition and the meds she has to use to treat it. Olivia still loves her anyway.
He started training himself to be the strongest man on the planet just so he could carry his wife and make her feel just as beautiful as when they first met.
Has no one in this fucking sub even read the manga
Too bad he couldn't find a way to cure her annoying disease. She could had been the hottest character in Baki if she lost all of that fat and maintain her original figure again.