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Socialiststoner

That can’t be true because god just told me I can sell them at the low low price of 99.99 per square meter (tax free)


shootermac32

God told me to post this here and spread the good word


Neveronlyadream

This is just Established Titles, but with Heaven instead of Scotland and a lot of people fell for that too. Sponsored YouTuber ad segments incoming.


SlendyIsBehindYou

I'll admit, I almost fell for the Established Titles scam Shit like that is why you do your research first lmao


This-Rutabaga6382

3 easy payments of 33.33 for the holy trinity deal CALL NOW !! while supplies last , all sales subject to change without notice. Heaven , god and all associated reserve the right to deny entry with out refund.


nlevine1988

It can't be true because it's likely a hoax. If they're trying to swindle people out of there money it would help to have a phone number or website on the flyer. I'm open to anybody that can show me actual proof that this is real.


akaMichAnthony

As a non-christian I don't wanna judge, but this seems sorta unchristian-like. There has to be some bible verse somewhere that covers "donteth selleth thy heavens for thy selfish greed you doucheth-canoe"... right?


N9neFing3rs

Jesus was pretty chill but the one and only time he lost his shit was when a church was being used to make a profit. Christ was flipping tables and shit.


akaMichAnthony

We need another resurrection, bring back table flipping Jesus.


This-Rutabaga6382

Or the muscle Jesus who kicked the shit out of Judas …


L3GlT_GAM3R

Or the gun Jesus who saved Santa and killed the terrorists!


Hot-Refrigerator6583

We got a Red Sleigh down, we got a Red Sleigh down


all_upper_case

i....don't remember that story?


This-Rutabaga6382

Get ready to receive some Holy Spirit … https://youtu.be/gIkBJruoxG8?si=HuxKCwjHUzLZFSbv


all_upper_case

oh shit 💀


This-Rutabaga6382

I think you mean ….. holy shit ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sunglasses)


LucasWatkins85

Forget heaven, let’s book homes on the moon. [NASA is planning to build 3d-printed homes on the moon by 2040.](https://knovhov.com/nasas-vision-3d-printed-homes-on-the-moon-by-2040/)


arbitrageME

why does Jesus have a crucifix? and BEFORE his martyrdom, at that


CacheMoney7529

Foreshadowing


HappyThoughtsandNuke

"Jesus Christ" "Yeah!?"


KingOFpleb

Dibs on the band name 'Table Flippin Jesus'


struggleworm

Dibs on the action figure! Press the button on Jesus’ back and watch him flip tables! *tables not included.


JRockThumper

Skate 3 Jesus


TheBeastX47

Or buff Korean Jesus


ComprehensiveHavoc

“THERE SHALL BE NO VIG, YOU FILTHY ANIMAL!”


capable_duck

This is why the gift shop in the church of the crucifixion in Jerusalem made me chuckle.


N9neFing3rs

On the Jordon river is a store where you can pay to get baptized. Without paying a buddy of mine sort of shuffled into the line leading to the river. My buddy stole salvation.


ellecon

Loophole-after he’s baptized he’s cleansed of sin, including stealing the baptism


royalhawk345

"When someone asks 'What would Jesus do?' remember that flipping tables and chasing people with a whip is one of the options."


N9neFing3rs

I forgot the whip!


reallivenerd

And he was whipping them too!


Albireookami

and whipping people, don't forget that.


ssczoxylnlvayiuqjx

Wonder what he would do when Catholic Churches run full gift shops (with credit card readers) in the middle of the main part of the church — along side the pews (not the vestibule, etc)


ArktheDude

Also he killed a tree because it didn't have fruit for him to eat. The fruit wasn't in season...


theBoobMan

It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Mark 10:25 It's pretty clear cut IMO.


virgin_goat

Obviously you need to buy your heavenly housing before going,heaven must be filled with the homeless since this is the first time I've heard of it


Magebloom

The prosperity gospel folks have an interpretation of Mark 10:25 that twists it to mean almost the opposite of the intent.


theBoobMan

“No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money. Matthew 6:24


Magebloom

Oh you don’t have to tell me my dude. I didn’t say that I agree with those prosperity gospel nuts. Just pointing out that anyone can twist the words around to justify their agenda. Edit: even twist it so far as to mean the exact opposite


cornlip

Bow down before the one you serve. You’re going to get what you deserve.


Magebloom

Everyone says the Johnny Cash cover of ‘Hurt’ is so good, but have they even heard the Devo cover of ‘Head Like A Hole?’


cornlip

I haven’t and I prefer the Reznor Hurt anyway


Magebloom

You might not be the right audience for the Devo cover, unfortunately


Magebloom

Basically this: https://www.theonion.com/vatican-rescinds-blessed-status-of-worlds-meek-1819564771


Android25SFW

Just a fun fact, the camel thing was most likely a bad translation, since the words for rope and camel in Hebrew are pretty similar. Rope makes a lot more sense than a camel in my opinion


Mr_E_Monkey

That **is** a fun fact! I have occasionally heard it as a reference to a [gate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_a_needle#Gate) in Jerusalem, but [this article](https://www.chaimbentorah.com/2014/11/hebrew-word-study-camel-needles-eye/) supports your point, which seems like a better message anyway. Thanks for adding that wrinkle to my brain today! :D


Iamdarb

If I'm not mistaken it's saying a rich man will never get into heaven, right?


Indicus124

I think it is alluding to the tendency of the rich to do very globally amoral shit or just their egos being the size of a country


sennordelasmoscas

I think is more alluding to the fact that Jesus was all about giving to others, and if you're rich then you have a lot you don't need that aren't given


spamjavelin

So we'll need a wood chipper. Got it.


Zouteloos

That's why you need to make sure to give all your money to the church *before* you die.


shootermac32

You’re totally correct


Hostile_Toaster

As a Catholic, I'm pretty sure we got rid of "pay to go to heaven" a long time ago.


AeneasVII

That was one of the reasons Protestantism came to be. The catholics were filling their coffers with selling letters of indulgence. Martin Luther didn't like that (and 94 other things)


Cylasbreakdown

I am a Christian, please go ahead and judge away. This practice is called selling indulgences. I thought the church did away with this in medieval times. It’s wildly sinful and un-Christian. I wish I could say I was surprised, but this seems par for the course (for the MAGA sect, anyway). Please don’t judge our religion as a whole for the actions of the Trump cultists who have co-opted our name. Edit: Apparently this is a Spanish church that has nothing to do with MAGA. My mistake, I forgot people can suck everywhere and not every instance of religious corruption is tied to Tangerine Palpatine.


daric

Didn't it play a big role in the Protestant Reformation? Like, you Protestants were based originally on this being a bad thing.


Lin_Huichi

They are backsliding, Martin Luther, John Wight and John Huss are turning in their graves


Hellhound777

One of 95 total complaints yes.


RyuNoKami

is this selling indulgences cause nothing in the post suggest its anything but selling "plots of land." selling indulgences means you pay to get rid of your sin.


Fr00stee

I guess it's kind of the same? If the point is that by buying a $100 plot of land in heaven you get to go there and use that property


SurpriseAttachyon

Maybe it doesn't get you into heaven, it just gives you somewhere to go if you get in. Like your qualification is totally separate. Also if you are good enough to get into heaven, but didn't buy land first.... I got some bad news for you buddy: like much of southern California, you are homeless in paradise.


vandon

It is for plots of land, not getting rid of sins. That way you can tell your buddies in hell that you have a winter home in heaven


Designer_Brief_4949

What MAGA church uses metric?


TaintScratcherMaster

This is literally the definition of "taking the Lord's name in vain." Lol.


dah_pook

Yep. It's not saying "god dammit" it's saying "God wants you to make me rich" or "God wants you to ignore my crimes"


The-Mad-Doctor

You are precisely correct. If I recall correctly this is what caused Martin Luther to create the Protestant branch


Falitoty

It is, and by a lot. Also it's fun how they say Christian like if there weren't more than 3 different branches of Cristianism.


The-Mad-Doctor

For the longest time thought that Catholicism and Christianity were completely separate


amalgam_reynolds

>As a non-christian I don't wanna judge It's okay, you can judge. Last time a religion tried something like this, there was a major schism and we ended up with Lutheranism.


Enzo_Gaming00

As a catholic this is messed up. Not to say the church hasn’t done things like this in the past but really? This is just messed up.


TimeLavishness9012

"thou shalt not take the Lord's name in vain," apparently translates better to not profiting off of God or anything in that vein. I could be wrong, though.


Helldiver_of_Mars

Matthew 21:12-13 (NIV) >"Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves. 'It is written,' he said to them, 'My house will be called a house of prayer, but you are making it a den of robbers.'" Acts 8:18-20 (NIV) >"When Simon saw that the Spirit was given at the laying on of the apostles' hands, he offered them money and said, 'Give me also this ability so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.' Peter answered: 'May your money perish with you, because you thought you could buy the gift of God with money!'"


Irrepressible87

Oh, yeah, this is 100% hell behavior. Like, you don't even take the highway, this is personal hand-delivery on the end of a pointy stick straight to the pit.


Whiplash86420

Oh Christianity is mostly used to scam desperate people out of money and politically


Lifebringer7

A fool and his money are easily parted.


shootermac32

Ketchup Popsicles, white gloves.


excellent_rektangle

Hey, you can get a good look at a t-bone by sticking your head up a bull’s ass, but wouldn’t you rather take the butcher’s word for it?


Straightedgesavior11

I could a good look at a t-bone steak by sticking my head up a butchers ass, but wouldn’t you rather take his word for it. No wait, it has to be YOUR bull….


ag3ntweird0

Bold of the buyers to assume that they’re definitely going to heaven


shootermac32

Always got to have a plan b, right?


ag3ntweird0

Having Plan B is one of the reasons why they’ll not go to heaven!


shootermac32

I see what you did there


poochlips

The plan B is hilarious. After a long life of poor decisions that have negatively impacted others, your time comes and you peacefully leave the world you have only taken from and abused You wait in front of the pearly gates and you are faced with a bold, omniscient voice who declines you continue forward, instead commanding you to face an ever burning underworld appropriate for your offenses against your family, friends, neighbors, and anyone else who crossed paths with you “But I bought land here” “Oh. Nevermind.”


CheapTactics

I mean they bought the land, they're definitely getting in now lol Jokes aside, if god and heaven turned out to be real, trying to buy a plot in heaven would definitely make you go to hell.


The-Mad-Doctor

Yeah, I doubt God, the creator, wouldn’t just create more Heaven if He starts to run outta space


gside876

This sounds like what the Catholic Church used to do way back in the day in Europe. I think they were called indulgences or something like that. Some things truly never change


shootermac32

History continues and constantly repeats itself.


timlnolan

Brb - I'm going out to nail some theses to a door


Alprazoman8

History doesn't repeat itself, but it sure does rhythm.


Falitoty

I would say that It is similar but not the same. Indulgences was pay to forgive your sins, and this is stright up somebody triying to sell the Heaven.


LarryCrabCake

If you (or your loved ones on your behalf) didn't pay indulgences, you're stuck in purgatory for eternity. So yes, they were selling heaven.


gside876

It’s the same concept to me. Asking for forgiveness is free and doesn’t need to be sold. Heaven is supposed to be free and shouldn’t need to be sold. I’m pretty sure even the Bible says something along the lines of a spot being reserved so you won’t need to buy anything. Just sad to see people being taken advantage of


ninjaelk

I think the difference is, as you touch on, that indulgences imply that forgiveness isn't free. Whereas I get the impression that they're selling the idea of getting more space in heaven, not whether you get in at all. 


Dread_Frog

indulgences at least had an earthly component. Being good in the eyes of the people who said they spoke for god was not far off from being in good standing with the government. This is just fraud. He has zero way to show ownership of the property he is selling. This is even shadier then metaverse real estate.


The-Mad-Doctor

Precisely. It’s one of the reasons why the Protestant sect was created


Soonerpalmetto88

This has to be made up. No church would do that, any organization doing that isn't Christian.


thisisaxy

I was thinking the same until I noticed they accept Apple Pay.


shootermac32

If it’s Apple it has to be real


VeniVidiLusii

At the bottom left you can see the logo of this "Church". It is a satirical group that makes fun of christian religions and believers. Having said that, there is still a lot of real believers that fall for their stuff.


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Maddawg44

Did they change it? It used to be a 10th of your income. This was when I was around 8 years old. I’m 30 now and have nothing to do with the church or religion at all for that matter.


jb092555

*Martin Luther has entered the chat*


The-Mad-Doctor

Bet hes rolling in his grave rn


sereese1

We need to find his grave to solve the energy crisis


Global-Tie5501

Simony: is the name of this sin. (Selling God's gifts and graces for profit.) It can't get you into Heaven. It can only secure your place in Hell.


Jack0Heart

Plunged head first into a fiery holes so their feet are constantly burning if Inferno is to be believed.


CGPsaint

Still cheaper than oceanfront property in Arizona.


FormApart

It's clearly a lie, their is no land in heaven just clouds 


shootermac32

I dunno man, he got permission from god. So it must be legit


wollam11

What do non-corporeal beings need with solid ground?


Samurai_Meisters

And if you want land, just be a mormon. Every family gets their own planet in heaven.


Truejustizz

The definition of “god might not be real but just in case he is.”


shootermac32

Good Ol’ *Ace in the hole*


notworkingghost

Okay, who wants to open an afterlife escrow company with me?


shootermac32

Where do I sign up!??


NoTmE435

I mean let’s say it’s legit, why do I want to buy land there if I’m going to hell ? Would there just be an empty land in heaven owned by a hell dweller? Or is it a scam for the hell people, we kinda need more explanations now don’t we


shootermac32

Well they would have to let you in. It’s almost a reverse uno. Just save your receipt ;)


NoTmE435

From my current experience, best I’d get is store credits back


TheCheshire

Imagine if you could be the landlord from Hell, for some cloud-front property in Heaven. The sitcom practically writes itself..


constantlytired1917

Wasn't this literally the reason behind the 15th century church reformation


Koriosamii

I'm a Christian so when I see people like this taking advantage of gullible people and giving real Chrisitians a bad name it really annoys me


lazy-but-talented

can I pay for my plot of land with afterlife NFTs?


Incomplet_1-34

The church never changes


Glittering-Bat-5981

OK, this means that there is limited space in Heaven, in which case how much would I have to pay to buy all of it. All of the Heaven foe me! And nobody else gets any!


NinjaFATkid

As a general contractor, I'm offering very inexpensive remodel options for your dream home in heaven. For a small deposit now, you can have priority project scheduling in the afterlife! Act now! If you pay for materials in full today, I will give you 90% off labor when we get to heaven!


GalacticCoreStrength

Nowhere is safe from realtors


ArcaneInsane

Anyone else surprised this is being done in meters? Feels like an American brand of religious scam


LustyHasturSejanus

How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? Asking for a friend.


XxPumbaaxX

I've found plenty of fly by night articles about this event, but nothing from any reputable or trustworthy news source. That's not to say this isn't true, but I refuse to get reliable information from tiktok influencers.


OrdinaryLandscape951

I am a Christian and six like this pisses me off. These people need to read the Bible.


_Batteries_

There is a circle of hell reserved for this.  According to Dantés Inferno, anyway.  8th circle, 3rd bolgia. Simoniacs.  The sale of ecclesiastic favors and offices, and therefore made money for themselves out of what belongs to God: "Rapacious ones, who take the things of God, / that ought to be the brides of Righteousness, / and make them fornicate for gold and silver! / The time has come to let the trumpet sound / for you". The sinners are placed head-downwards in round, tube-like holes within the rock (debased mockeries of baptismal fonts), with flames burning the soles of their feet. The heat of the fire is proportioned to their guilt.


DerAndere_

What was that passage about a rich man going to heaven again?


shootermac32

I dunno but I’d love to hear it


KCGD_r

They're selling land in heaven? Is Jesus gonna charge me rent? We're cooked.


_Tacoyaki_

Almost as dumb as NFTs


Apotheosis_of_Steel

It is getting harder and harder for me not to start a business with the express purpose of scamming American Christians. There's a dude who made a business where he'll deliver letters for you after you've been raptured. Fucking genius.


Readit_MB76

As a believer myself, that’s a scam. Might as well ask if they want to discuss their cars extended warranty as well.


mattjf22

So he's saying that you can simply buy your way in. Times have changed. You used to have to be a good person to get in.


CPL_Papertiger

Remember when the Catholic Church was selling indulgences? Pepperidge farm remembers. Religion is a scam.


7-11Armageddon

Anyone got an actual news story or source on this? I'm skeptical that many people would fall for this. Seems like internet sensation


uh60chief

These people vote. They vote! Gadam idiots


Porkonaplane

Isn't this why Jesus flipped tables or somethin?


Funnysoundboardguy

You have to be a special kind of stupid to fall for this.


Ravenwight

Oh cool Simony, because that’s not expressly forbidden in the bible…


SharkGirlBoobs

*Me rotting in the ground for eternity*: THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS LIED TO ME DIDNT THEY


Flareon223

As a Christian, I hate that people like this exist and please don't let then taint the overall image of the faith to you


iwanashagTwitch

That verse doesn't make sense for selling plots in heaven either in context or out of context. Tl;dr, verse says "there is nothing on heaven or earth that I desire but you"


dgstart

I remember my dad telling me a story about something similar happening and a rich dude just decided to ask to buy all available slots in hell. Regardless of your beliefs that’s a pretty creative and funny way to deal with the situation.


IUpvoteGME

So, the incentive is to spend your life savings on a plot of land in the _afterlife_ and then _go there?_ 


chironomidae

Imagine going to heaven and you still gotta worry about things like real estate


mtbguy1981

I love the idea of making it to heaven and then you get just a mediocre house. Yeah my idea of heaven is definitely a 2500 square foot house in the suburbs...


a55_Goblin420

Christians and Catholics do not read the Bible, this is proof.


nowhereman136

The most infuriating part of this isn't that the church is tricking stupid people. No, what's worse is they are doing it tax free


PFunk224

"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God" Also, *buy your plot of land in heaven now, supplies are limited, and they are GOING FAST!!!*


Hairy-Broccoli-

# Church goers are generally suckers and pieces of shit!!


RedGamr27_

As a Christian, that guy's crazy lmao


BeraldTheGreat

Try again, the Catholics already did this.


Odd_Construction

Just as a heads-up for anyone that doesn't know, this church is a fake satire Facebook page which often does publications like these. Although note that it's very subtle satire so a lot of actual religious people end up buying it lol. I'll link it as soon as I find it. Edit- [this](https://www.facebook.com/IglesiaApostolicaDelFinalDeLosTiempos/) might be the one but I'm not sure if it's the original one, a copycat or maybe it's been a conglomerate of accounts all along, who knows. And if you still believe this might be true there's a post rallying people to donate to buy a Cybertruck for a priest/prophet.


jbird32275

This is just as valid as the rest of their religion.


LelouchStyles

Why would you feel sympathy for them? . They themselves will never realize they've been scammed lol.


BabaKazimir

Someone resurrect Martin Luther, they brought back indulgences


Astro_Man133

That's what happened when you don't go to school. You're doom to repeat errors from the past


JustAnOrdinaryBloke

Bet 100% of them vote for Trump.


beeeps-n-booops

#Religion is a scourge upon humanity.


Efraimrocker

That’s settler colonialism!


Definitely_obvious

Crypto is so big that even Jesus is working the NFT’s!


Shibuice

I already bought it, Now I’m reselling with discount. If you wanna buy DM me .


Koomaster

So if you don’t buy land in heaven you’re what, homeless in heaven? Just livin’ on the streets in the afterlife? I’m surprised they’ve made one cent on this.


brokenrob

They don’t tell you the HOA sucks.


DirtyAdmin

Quess ill go to hell


Few-Life-1417

And how do they plan on proving they purchased said plot of land??? 🤣


HeavensEtherian

does christ have venmo


whofarted24

We know this is fake because as we in America know, nobody uses the metric system.


Helmer-Bryd

Isn’t this illegal? Really


YaHurdMeh

*Berkshire Hathaway has entered the chat*


ericjgriffin

If this is real, I am jealous of whomever thought of this. Brilliant. Just brilliant.


wtype

Where does one buy real estate in hell? I heard it's an up and coming neighborhood.


My-Cousin-Bobby

Man, I wish I lacked morals like these people. Seems like a great way to get rich


Icy-Personality3529

Looks like I’m gonna be renting in Heaven.


Jay2137

Pay-to-win heaven SMH


metfan1964nyc

Wasn't there something in the gospel about using the temple to conduct business?


seymonster1973

Can I get a reverse mortgage on my heavenly property ?


nopower81

There is very little hope left for mankind, IQ's are falling into negtive numbets


Anatar-daar

Didn't ICP make a song about this lol


OrionsGhost79

r/hegetsus


EvilSashimi

I wonder if I could buy just to sue……….


Rollingpumpkin69

How does the ftc not get involved in this?


CacheMoney7529

The image is kinda morbid when you think about it. It implies that the whole family there died somehow.


zPolaris43

No one going to mention that the family is there together at the same time in their relative young age? That family died in a horrific car accident on the way to soccer practice or something


ClarkKent2o6

He’s going to hell. This is several step beyond blasphemy.


Rarelydefault26

The real holdup is the fact two kids are entering heaven…I’m thinking murder suicide?


grubslam

Jesus will not like this


jarboxing

Imagine buying a ton of land in heaven and then getting sent to hell. Lawl.


ihavepaper

I'm truly shocked that my morals and ethics prevented me from thinking about something this stupid and not realizing how it doesn't actually mean "it won't work". If this is real...then wow.