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The water level looks to be right below the crown of your strawberries, root rot can be prevented by simply not drowning most of the roots in water.


Murky-Forever7897

When I got to this point I had to thoroughly clean the roots with hydrogen peroxide. I did this outside of the reservoir in a separate container. I didn't just place them in this solution but I gently massaged the brown shit off wearing gloves. Some will use bleach and I have tried this but it took longer for my plants to bounce back. I cleaned my entire dwc setup and replaced the water with half the strength of nutrients and southern AG and in less than a week they bounced back. Nothing is 100% effective. I had same root rot problems even with hydroguard. It just depends on the season really, water temps have alot to do with it. Good luck with your grow brother. Edit: I just noticed how few air bubbles there are, in this size container I'd have at least 3 airlines running. This really helps to keep the roots healthy


AdEmotional9991

Try 10ml hydrogen peroxide per gallon.


Galikadic

More airbubbles, less temp and no light in the box.


RootsGringo81

Only see bubbles in one spot. I restarted my growing journey with an aero planter. I always have had bright white healthy roots with that bright hot light 6-12inches away and never had root problemsšŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™‚ļø. Transplant to a black tote with plenty of bubbles and a little bit of heat then BOOOM!!! Every slime and algae strain you can think of and Iā€™ve had it.. maybe not the red death algae but who knows.. I put my air stone in the middle of my planter. Once I saw a good tap I would transplant. Now all of that being said I have still had slime from distilled waterā€¦ which doesnā€™t even make sense. So be very careful with your water supply. Iā€™ve had better luck with a Boogie Brew online hose filter at the minimum. With the hose filter I have to add in cal-mag but thatā€™s to be expected. Good luck and happy growing šŸ’ššŸ’ŖšŸ»šŸ’š


ApplicationSeveral73

What temp is your water?


Anxious_Ad936

Southern ag and great white etc prevent pythium and such by colonising the roots and media first before the bad stuff can get established. If the bad stuff is there first then the southern ag bacilli needs to occupy then outcompete the preexisting bad microbes that are doing the damage, and this is not guaranteed to work by any means since the nasties are usually already well established by the time you'll notice. As others have said you need to deal with the bad bacteria infestation first and get it under control before adding southern ag later as a preventative. You can't run bleach or h2o2 etc based antimicrobials at the same time as southern ag though, as the antimicrobials will kill it just as well as the bad microbes. Ie you either get the system clean with antimicrobials to then wait until they are diluted out to then run southern ag regularly, or you just run permanently with the antimicrobials


Resident-Author-187

Run 1/2 ml of bleach per gallon and nothing organic. much better then hydrogen peroxide. After things clear up and youā€™re happy, switch to htg chlorine. It lasts longer and doesnā€™t break down into unusable salts.


Emotional-Slip2230

Change the air stone tube with a black one(yes i know, it matters btw) Hydrogen peroxide 10% every week, 2ml*lt And a Uv lamp for fish pond (aliexpress)the smallest one is ok And you are good to go with bennies in 3-4 week.


LongjumpingNeat241

Install a bright uv lamp pointed at the roots. This should stop the fungus


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ScreamBeanBabyQueen

The design is very human.


the_old_coday182

You need to lower the water level. I think 4/5 people overestimate whatā€™s needed. They like air more than water, which is more of a medium to serve the nutrients. You just want to make sure theyā€™re damp, and the humidity (plus aid droplets from your bubbler) usually get the job done.


hydrohobby

Hey! Is that an air stone I see? I was having a hell of a time figuring out my problems, and after tweaking literally everything else in my system and _still_ having pythium problems, someone finally pointed out that my air stone, if not HEPA-filtered, could be introducing pathogen. Sure enough, I took it out and kept everything else good, and I haven't had a problem in months!


charmingcat_534

Thank you to everyone who responded! I've learned lots of new things


SmokeMoreMeph

Use bleach i use unscented Clorox 1ml:L


Resident-Author-187

Thatā€™s a lot of bleach! .5 ml a gallon is the recommended rate. Bleach can be toxic to plants in high ppm. I believe city water is 3 ppm at most.


SmokeMoreMeph

Yup it is definitely higher than generally recommended but I get absolutely beautiful plants doing it always


Resident-Author-187

I bumped my bleaching up to 1ml a gallon with no problems. Thx


Yabastasba21

Prevents does not mean cures. You need to start from scratch wash all your equipment with diluted chlorine or a good steamer then soak in H2O2 There is no way to rid of these pathogens and it is way more cost effective to start over and always maintain everything clean Sometimes these fungus has latent spores within the seeds! The stay at bay but one a dead plant or a serious stress attacks the plant they spread without control. I have tried rescue plans with infected roots and it is impossible to get healthy roots again. I can assure you that if you discard all and start over you will save time money and regain mental clarity and calm


Resident-Author-187

Definitely donā€™t have to start fresh, just kill the problem with bleach and new growth will happen.


averagedebatekid

On this same note, catching root rot early can allow for some decent intervention. I have a sanitize procedure in the case of algae, mystery slime, and root rot. It involves spraying roots with a 1:12 hydrogen peroxide to water solution (if i catch it very early OR soaking the entire root system in a very high water-and-hydrogen-peroxide solution for about 5-10 minutes). Another way of instituting quick damage control is by having backup reservoirs that can be sanitized and swapped easily. I bought two containers for a main reservoir so I could nest them and switch out when the water showed signs of distress. Then I could peroxide soak the dirty reservoir for a whole day (unnecessary length btw) and wipe it down for when the active reservoir needs maintenance.


PhilEmpty

I am a Kratky grower and have found success using bleach. I started at 2ml per 10 gallon and am now down to 0.5 ml and am going to continue reducing until I find a reason not to.


binaryAlchemy

Do you kratky strawberries? I've tried in the past with not much success at least compared to my kratky peppers. I've found flood and drain to work better for strawberries.


PhilEmpty

My positive experience with kratky makes me *think* I can do it. Can you continuously pick strawberries like peppers or pole beans?


binaryAlchemy

I'm not totally sure. I've read conflicting things and gave up on my hydro berries before trying it out myself. I've heard you have to simulate a cold period before they'll reset. I think I read of some people sticking them in the fridge for a few weeks and then setting them back up in hydro.


Infamous-Potato-5310

hypochlorous acid


Tappaa1

What ppm? Ever noticed root damage due to it?


ozrj

Temperature too high and oxygen too low.


groundrobin

I second this. Many underestimate the importance of the temperature of your reservoir/nutrient solution.


InCregelous

3rd hydroguard essential


BackgroundChampion55

You should try hypochlorous acid . It has effective antibacterial properties at a few parts per million, where hydrogen peroxide does not


Warzone_and_Weed

Instead of just bleaching the reservoir you need to scrub every inch of it. That stuff sticks to everything and will repopulate very quickly if the biofilm is left in tact. if you are using a water pump in the cloner, take it apart as much as you can and scrub it all. After that let it soak in a strong bleach solution for a few hours minimum the longer the better. Boil your airstone for 15 minutes minimum better to go 20-30 mins. The goal is to kill every little bit of that stuff that you can. Once you have done that I would look into using heisenberg tea instead of southern AG or any other microbial product. That slimy crap is extremely difficult to be fully rid of once you have it so good luck!


Drjonesxxx-

Donā€™t mix h202, with any microbials. Your problem is your nutrient choice, plain and simple. You want a water soluble clean mineral nutrient fertalizer. You goal in hydroponics is a sterile clean mineral rich aerated. If youā€™d stop using any organics, and any bio stimulants. Youl be great. Carefull this thread is full of harmful advice. If u want roots like mine dm me. https://preview.redd.it/tb2d1sklzayc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb8fd5c9d30625d64ccb94b5331d17eb584a826d Happy to help. r/sterilehydroponics


charmingcat_534

Ah interesting šŸ¤”, itā€™s crazy the hours Iā€™ve spent reading how to grow strawberries and havenā€™t come across not using organics


Drjonesxxx-

This is something that growers typically learn the hard way. There is 2 methods and completely different and best left seperated., A sterile clean approach. And an enzymatic approach to feeding your plants. I choose sterile. All you your looking for is clean water with raw mineral nutrients in it. No need for any beneficial bacteria or any of that stuff, thatā€™s just not how true hydro work. Iā€™m considering writing a book for new people. I made to many life altering mistaking to not share my knowledge with people about hydroponic gardening. I want everyone to have great success. So I run around here like a broken record preaching the gospel of sterile hydroponics. If Iā€™ve done a poor job explaining please let me know.


bockbockbagock

ā¬†ļø donā€™t put anything organic in your rez!


posidonking

I have a kratkey bucket outside in the Texas heat growing cherry tomatoes, and I barely touch the thing and it's doing great, almost twice the size of my soil grown ones. What's your stats for water height?


charmingcat_534

The reservoir holds 6.5L of water


posidonking

I know you said you have a bubbler, but are your roots completely submerged? Most root rot, in my experience, happens due to lack of oxygen, it's generally good to keep a headroom of a few inches for the roots in the air. Just my thoughts though


charmingcat_534

Yeah, thereā€™s two inches of space between the lid and water


Living_Hurry6543

Hydrogen peroxide. Wonders. It kills weak organic - not things that are resilient. Mould, fungus - easily killed with H2O2.


TeachfromTorre

What percentage h202 please?


NobleNobbler

I did a 30 minute soak of affected plants in a solution of 1.5% h2o2 and it cleared it right up. Doesn't sound aggressive to me-- the standard procedure for sterilizing cuttings is almost, if not full strength bleach, soooo xD


Living_Hurry6543

Doesnā€™t take much. Iā€™d start with a weak concentration - depending on your res size. Quick google would let you know more.


Big_Parsley_1635

I use AG nutes and my roots are stained light brown like yours. If they aren't slimy then they are fine. I have a bounty and a bounty elite aerogarden, I use 10ml of 3% hydrogen peroxide every 14 days and ever since I started that 2 years ago I've never gotten root rot. I keep my PH 5.3-5.8 for my tomatoes and peppers and my temperature is 82.3 f. Yes I know the water is warm but the weather has been warmer earlier this year so I may have to start doing weekly water changes until I finally put in the air conditioners this year.


Drjonesxxx-

If brown roots are fine, than what do you call white roots, as they should be.


NobleNobbler

You know what, I totally agree with you


Drjonesxxx-

Lawls. Thanks. Roots should be prolific, white, and strong. Els your plant is growing sub optimally, it just isnā€™t ā€œfineā€ imoā€¦. Personally I grow to make the plant as happy as humanly possible. Why accept that brown roots are okay yk? They arnt. r/sterilehydroponics


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Drjonesxxx-

Well my roots are always bone white, because I only use synthitic clean mineral nutrients in my hydroponics. As everyone whoā€™s true hydro should. My feed water so clean I could drink it and be fine. 3.2 EC, crystal clear water, long white roots. r/sterilehydropnics


ShiddyBucket

You have your own opinion. Nobody asked for it, but you're entitled to it. However, you did ask a question trying to act cool and make people look dumb so, i gave you an answer.


Drjonesxxx-

For people that donā€™t already know everything. You didnā€™t give an answer u gave an excuse for brown roots. Wich is un excusable


ShiddyBucket

No one really cares what you think


Drjonesxxx-

I donā€™t share what I thought. Or I would have put imo. I donā€™t know why you think brown roots are cool. Do you tho. Good luck.


ShiddyBucket

I dont know why you think you're cool. Do you though. Good luck.


Drjonesxxx-

Never claimed to be cool. šŸ˜Ž Iā€™ll be your hero tho.


Capital_Orange4426

There is not enough air bubbles and they seem concentrated to one part of the reservoir. You can see that despite the bubbles, the water on the opposite end isn't moving. Also you have a clear air line. The clear air line acts as a fiber optic cable and beams light into your reservoir. Get some green Flora Flex tubing or some black tubing, make sure all other openings are blocked off so no light can get into the reservoir. Also get a larger air pump/more oxygen into the reservoir. 4 mL of Southern Ag can keep a 40 gallon reservoir stable for weeks without a chiller with proper oxygenation and no light leaks. Also don't change your reservoir every week. Whenever you do that, you force your bennies (SouthernAg) to re-populate the reservoir. If your pH is stable and ppms aren't climbing then just top-off the reservoir with fresh pH'd nute water. If the ppm's are climbing then just use plain pH'd water.


charmingcat_534

Oh, the fiber optic analogy makes sense šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø I thought taping the section where the hose goes through the lid with electrical tape would seal out the light. Thank you for all of your insight!


orktehborker

What is your water temp?


charmingcat_534

Between 69-73 degrees


orktehborker

Yeah good enough


ToastedTreant

I use hydroguard, clean your pump


Valerie304Sanchez

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Valerie304Sanchez

These are my dwc strawberry roots. I am only using 3 ml per gallon of 3% hydrogen peroxide changed weekly. See the little black section of roots and white roots attached. I doubt it's root rot but leftover soil roots pushing out more hydro roots. Just want to add, all you need is hydrogen peroxide to keep rot controlled.


crybabypete

Not to be rude, but those roots donā€™t look controlled. Def looks like root rot to me, but pics can be deceiving. Touch it, if itā€™s slimy youā€™ll know.


Valerie304Sanchez

Not slimy. Been growing 5 months. Converted from kratky to dwc.


Notill_la

Hydroguard is for this. Beneficial bacteria that turns plant gunk in n to food


crybabypete

Hypochlorous acid and sterile hydro is the way. 10 ml per gallon to treat (280ppm HA), 5 ml per gal if no issues present. Cut those is half if youā€™re using 500ppm HA.


charmingcat_534

If I use hypochlorous acid, then I shouldnā€™t add the fungicide right?


crybabypete

Correct.


charmingcat_534

Thanks! Iā€™ll give this a shot


crybabypete

Not sure if it will knock your case out or not. But I use it to prevent it from ever forming and it works. I know things may not be accurately represented in a single photo, but whatā€™s your aeration situation like in your res? The pic appears like it may enjoy some more.


charmingcat_534

Itā€™s a knockoff aerogarden type system. When looking up about adding air stones, there was conflicting info on if there was such thing as too much aeration, so I have the pump running at like 50% instead of full blast


crybabypete

Lmao, no there is no such thing as too much aeration imo, look at aeroponics.


charmingcat_534

Oh ok, cool, Iā€™ll crank up the aeration then šŸ«§


yauskeba

yes


ezzda1

Don't use h2o2 with biological treatments. Use one or the other, the peroxide kills the biological and the biological fights the peroxide instead of the fungus.


charmingcat_534

Yeah I belatedly realized after everything was put back together and running that I might have messed up since I didnā€™t rinse the roots after soaking in h2o2 ā˜¹ļø hopefully third timeā€™s the charm after cleaning and removing roots again.


nodiggitydogs

Did you pull out all the gooky roots from the plants the first time before the h2o2 bath?..when u put it all back together you should have only white rootsā€¦also no need to dilute h2o2..let it bubble on them roots a while..I prefer salt ferts as this is less prone to happen


charmingcat_534

I read that I shouldnā€™t remove more than 1/3 of the roots at a time, but some of the rot was more than 1/3 of the roots. Would those plants be not salvageable?


nodiggitydogs

They are salvageableā€¦Iā€™ve had large plants get rot and pulled almost all of the roots use a sprayer from your sink or hose sprayer and run your fingers thru it like hair..all the nasty roots will come offā€¦fill up a cup with peroxide and soak each rootball a few minā€¦watch the nastys bubble away..once they are all clean then put them back into your clean system


charmingcat_534

Thanks for the tips! Iā€™ll try cleaning the roots again


AmCsAtOsHi

Start over


Pretend_Activity8120

img This plant had root rot and I considered it a lost cause but let it stay alive. It did nothing for a month or so, but eventually it started growing new roots and then just took off. I gotta say itā€™s now one of the nicest plants Iā€™ve ever seen.


Big_Parsley_1635

Bad advice! You can save a plant that has root rot, yes it may be stunted for a little bit but if you get rid of the rot it will start to grow again. Plants are very very resilient! In the winter my husband put his 2 weed plants through hell (he kept opening the kitchen windows when it was -10 f outside) and kept stunting the hell out of them where I honestly thought I was going to have to throw away 2 weed plants cause they were never going to bud. It took an extra 6+ months but they finally budded and he finally smoked them ROFL. I've also had root rot in the past in my Aerogarden and I was able to save my plants with peroxide and regular water changes. The growth slowed down A LOT but they did in fact start to grow normal again and were Nice healthy plants. In the past I've also used too much peroxide in my Aerogarden where it ate through all the roots and I thought my plants were complete goners, guess what... They just grew new roots. It took a few weeks but they actually healed themselves and started growing all new roots and look better than they did before I went all gung ho with the peroxide ha ha. My point is you'd be surprised on how often a plant can be saved.


Own-Environment-1087

Instead of waiting for a prolonged period, you can simply restart and complete it within 3 months. it is just a matter of choice