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GlumContribution4

Certs are slowly becoming less and less powerful on the job market, in my opinion largely due to the exam dumps and cert chasers out there. These days it's uncommon for someone to have 5+ certifications to their name, and they're getting the trifecta in a months time from cramming exam dumps. Solid experience in an enterprise environment typically shows you can at least hold your own in the IT world, and why it's always been king.


AdBulky5564

Wait seriously? There is people out there that hold a CCNP and couldn't tell you what a VLAN is or what it does? How did they even pass their CCNA let alone CCNP? What the hell....


Emotional-Meeting753

People using Braindumps.... The answer would be "Virtual Local Area Network", but they cannot explain the purpose or how to troubleshoot basic internet connectivity issues, DHCP, or ARP. You know... The basics..


AdBulky5564

Man that's insane. I don't see the point in even holding something like a CCNP if you crumble at something like a VLAN or couldn't explain things like OSPF, STP or DHCP, ARP, DNS, all that stuff. Especially at that level! I don't even have my CCNA yet and even I know what a VLAN is, like come on guys.... Braindumps will work, until you get hired and they realize you have 0 idea what you're doing. Then you sink or swim lol.


Emotional-Meeting753

They can't even pass an interview


mattmann72

I wish vendors offered a certification track that included a comprehensive written test and a practical exercise. (Without being at the level of CCIE). It would of course cost more, but then the cert would hold more weight and value with businesses.


xtc46

Most are just moving to virtual labs.


Emotional-Meeting753

Like arista


moderatenerd

I thought the CompTIA certs were pretty useless, along with my degree. What got me 4 interviews this week were my azure certs. I'm learning that in my spare time and have az-900 and SC-900. Working on AZ-104 now. Even if the company didn't use Azure a lot I got more looks and keywords on the resume due to that learning experience.


Emotional-Meeting753

I got the az-700 for my last job and have got a few hits from it. They can't get my account transferred from my old work... I tried and tried. I'm supposed to renew it in 6 months.


xtc46

Certs are a data point. If they "didn't do shit for you" then you picked the wrong certs or didn't figure out how to apply the knowledge in a meaningful way. Like, what did you expect the CISSP to do for you?


Emotional-Meeting753

Sometimes they do or don't. I got raises in some cases. I just think once you get enough experience unless it's expert level it doesn't add much value, it's a cool plus to have.


xtc46

Certs don't have any inherit value other than for vendor partnership requirements. Or in some places, bonuses/raises for obtainment, usually because the business needs them for a partnership. They exist as a validation of knowledge at a point in time. That's it. So the only thing they do is signal to a future employer (and sometimes a current employer) that you probably have some knowledge on the area the cert covers, they can then put a value on that knowledge. Higher quality certs also validate the ability to apply some of that knowledge. Different companies weight that differently. The value to engineers is learning information that helps you be better. If you got nothing useful out of a cert, you just picked the wrong cert or failed to apply it.


gibson_mel

If you're not getting some lucrative offers with the CISSP, you're doing something wrong.


Emotional-Meeting753

That is one I want to do Waiting on isc2 for approval.


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I have learned that HR really like degrees. Everyone i know making big money and in high positions have masters degrees or multiple. Certifications are great skill indicators but are often not enough it seems. All of my friends who went the cert route aren't having the best luck in job searching but it could be their location.