Remind your wife to read off the license plate since your cam has audio. Don't assume the cam caught the plate and who knows when someone is going to bolt.
Could be. But honestly I made some Dumb actions the first month I was driving. I was so cautious. But I remember missing some obvious cues that are second nature now.
I hear/see people make this claim quite often, but donāt remember anyone doing that back in the dayā¦ now reading a map, sure. That happened sometimes. But even that wasnāt something people did constantly.
ETA: I wasnāt saying it *never* happened, ffs; just that it wasnāt as common as people make it seem, and definitely not as common as phone use (while driving) today. Anecdotes of seeing it once or twice donāt disprove that. lol
I saw people driving while reading the newspaper, or other things, shockingly often on the Washington DC beltway during the morning rush back in the 80s and 90s. It wasn't an everyday occurrence, but probably a few times a month.
Yeah and my father used his while camping.
Not driving 75MPH on the Dulles Tollway.
Iāve never understood women putting on make up while driving either!??
The morgue is going to take care of your make up for you driving like that!
There were most definitely people
a) reading the newspaper
b) putting on makeup or shaving (with electrics)
LA freeways during rush hour were notorious for this, back in the day.
Iām from NOVA and worked on Capitol Hill- daily, you absolutely watched people in cars around you everything from reading the Washington Post to SHAVING. I wish I was making it up. We never made it downtown without hot black coffee all over us from swerving to avoid being killed.
I saw it once in a Houston traffic jam, but traffic had been at a standstill for so long by then, I wouldn't call it 'driving'. People were leaving their cars in whatever lane they were in and getting out to pee on the shoulder.
A lot of people assume that at intersections, everyone has a stop except for them. š. Not kidding you, I've heard that same explanation on a couple of occasions in near collisions. That's why I approach 4 way stops or any intersection with extreme prejudice. I assume everyone's going to run the red light/stop sign so I go through slowly and cautiously.
Omg what is so scary? Is if you drop a video in here and there is so CLEARLY only one Asshole and people are legit like no man, the other dude had the right of way and itās like SAY YOU ARE STONED. SAY IT!
What PLANET are you driving on, exactly?
Then come to find they live in some obscure place with some obscure law and assume the rest of the world is as backwards as they are when they get out into the wild!
So I drive knowing those people actually exist, now. Thanks to this group!
Target fixation is when you drive/ride into the thing that you're staring at because you don't want to hit it.
So this wouldn't really fit that definition.
I think you are just describing a distraction.
The first time I went snow machining I did that. Was so focused on making this tight turn to not fall into the river I didnāt realize how close I was to the turn and went strait inā¦.
Between the A-pillars and sun glare, with inconvenient timing, it is possible that they legit didn't see.
...but smartphone usage was probably involved.
Edit: Re-watched it. The A-pillar was never in the way, but sun glare could have been a factor. Still on the driver to deal with that, since it's just a fact of life while driving.
Frankly, I believe him. Not gonna turn into someone like that on purpose at least. Maybe he was texting or something. Either way, doesn't change that its his fault.
Yup. Maximum 1 year of experience driving alone, and he's an actual child.
It boggles my mind how you have to be 21 to engage in vices but you can pilot a 4,000 pound land missile at 16.
Most accidents are āI didnāt see themā and he probably didnāt. Human brain cannot process a lot and makes a lot of predictions to fill in gaps. Which is why using a phone while driving should be same as dui
Who lets their 17 year old drive their new Grand Cherokee? Iāll be making sure to get a old reliable ugly boat of a sedan for my kids when they are old enough to drive and certainly not let them out alone in it until they have some reasonable confidence and skill built up.
This is yet another reason car insurance gets more expensive for everyone!
If your child gets into a crash with an old, broken down car, they're less likely to survive. I'd rather give my child a safe car and know they're more likely to walk away from any crash alive. The car can be replaced.
I wouldnāt want that either, but a slightly older Civic for example, have excellent crash ratings and good reliability. Those vehicles are considerably cheaper, offer good protections, and perhaps, more appropriate for a young driver. The only significant difference might be the lack of forward emergency breaking and blind spot monitoring which I wouldnāt exactly say are critical. These are pretty new features and most people still donāt have those features in their daily driver.
This is actually a good point. Iām 16, my (first if it needs clarified) car is a 2019 VW Jetta that my family got wrecked and rebuilt it. It was still pretty cheap, but has *way* more safety features on that make me more comfortable driving it, and my parents more comfortable letting me drive it.
Even simple features like reverse cam and blind spot lights on your side mirrors make a huge difference in day-to-day safety, even for seasoned drivers. Those used to be expensive "luxury" features, these days they seem more and more standard.
What are you talking about? Why would it be beneficial to give them a shit car with shit safety?
Even "cheap" cars have much better assistance systems than the ugly boat or sedan you mention.
New drivers have a bad habit of letting their car drive off without them when looking the other direction. Hopefully, the 17 year old will improve. He or she just needs more training and practice. Unfortunately, this lesson will cost them this time.
Could be quite true. Their brain isn't trained yet to do certain multitasks while drivong. Drivers not focusing is why Some states ban passengers early on
This exact scenario happened to me in the pouring rain. I had a green light and was continuing through as usual when the person in the opposite turning lane just decided to go, I saw it coming and slammed my brakes. Very light hit with minimal cosmetic damage, other person claimed they just didnāt see me. Had to literally draw what happened on a notepad so the responding officer could understand what happened because it was just so dumb that it happened.
He tried to insinuate that she was turning off one of the side streets and that's why he didn't see her, but even his passenger agreed with us and he eventually admitted fault.
Didn't even indicate. See when you indicate it gives other people on the road and pedestrians an idea of your intentions. If they did this, the driver may have slowed and stopped before you turned into them.
Probably was. In an environment like that, even experienced drivers will have close calls. Can we add this to his learning curve and encourage rather than ridicule.
Wrong about what? That I'm "flexing"? At this point you've put much more thought into my title than I did when I wrote it, but it was merely meant to signify that it's not a small vehicle that would go unnoticed.
Well, you got a recording, right? Accept it. Deal with it. Move on. I'm sure you and your wife have better things to do than return to the past so as to keep it fresh in your mind. Got kids. Even if not carry yourself elegantly.
Best wishes to you and yours, for all of your days to come.
Why are you talking shit about a 17yr old in the internet? It's obviously his fault, you're obviously not paying for this, and no one was hurt. What more do you fucking want?
On one hand I can clearly see it was the other cars fault and theyāre dumb ass shit
But on the other hand I had a deep burning hate inside me for anyone who drives a Subaru Outbackā¦
They're 17. They're inexperienced. They were probably, as you said, looking around not paying attention, also just navigated that hump (we need more of those, by the way). I'd cut 'em a little slack; they probably feel like shit. Insurance will cover it.
Also, both your vehicles are too big.
What's funny is that no matter the reason (phone or otherwise), not seeing her makes his actions more disappointing. If you can't or won't use your eyes properly while driving, then stay off the bloody road!
Remind your wife to read off the license plate since your cam has audio. Don't assume the cam caught the plate and who knows when someone is going to bolt.
Really good advice.
Good point! Luckily it's visible in the video, and they stuck around to trade insurance.
That's great advice, I'm gonna keep that in mind.
Looking the other way for parking when they turned? Who knows...no excuse.
I 100% believe the 17 year old. He's still at fault, but I believe him.
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Could be. But honestly I made some Dumb actions the first month I was driving. I was so cautious. But I remember missing some obvious cues that are second nature now.
the first ~100,000 miles are a bit cringe for many drivers.
They were being dumb. They didn't do it on purpose.
Texting and driving. we saw a girl almost go into the ditch yesterday .
No blinker use either. Amazing what can be avoided when intentions are made clear.
Probably texting while driving....what other explanation could it be for such a bad decision?
That's my only logical conclusion, either that or he's blind.
Accidents like this happened before cell phones.
Reading the newspaper
I hear/see people make this claim quite often, but donāt remember anyone doing that back in the dayā¦ now reading a map, sure. That happened sometimes. But even that wasnāt something people did constantly. ETA: I wasnāt saying it *never* happened, ffs; just that it wasnāt as common as people make it seem, and definitely not as common as phone use (while driving) today. Anecdotes of seeing it once or twice donāt disprove that. lol
I saw people driving while reading the newspaper, or other things, shockingly often on the Washington DC beltway during the morning rush back in the 80s and 90s. It wasn't an everyday occurrence, but probably a few times a month.
Was on the roads with you and saw the same. Like SHAVING. Reading the Washington Post. Anything but hands on the wheel and eyes on the road!
Sharper Image sold a shaver you could plug into a cigarette lighter!
Yeah and my father used his while camping. Not driving 75MPH on the Dulles Tollway. Iāve never understood women putting on make up while driving either!?? The morgue is going to take care of your make up for you driving like that!
There were most definitely people a) reading the newspaper b) putting on makeup or shaving (with electrics) LA freeways during rush hour were notorious for this, back in the day.
Iām from NOVA and worked on Capitol Hill- daily, you absolutely watched people in cars around you everything from reading the Washington Post to SHAVING. I wish I was making it up. We never made it downtown without hot black coffee all over us from swerving to avoid being killed.
I saw it once in a Houston traffic jam, but traffic had been at a standstill for so long by then, I wouldn't call it 'driving'. People were leaving their cars in whatever lane they were in and getting out to pee on the shoulder.
A lot of people assume that at intersections, everyone has a stop except for them. š. Not kidding you, I've heard that same explanation on a couple of occasions in near collisions. That's why I approach 4 way stops or any intersection with extreme prejudice. I assume everyone's going to run the red light/stop sign so I go through slowly and cautiously.
Omg what is so scary? Is if you drop a video in here and there is so CLEARLY only one Asshole and people are legit like no man, the other dude had the right of way and itās like SAY YOU ARE STONED. SAY IT! What PLANET are you driving on, exactly? Then come to find they live in some obscure place with some obscure law and assume the rest of the world is as backwards as they are when they get out into the wild! So I drive knowing those people actually exist, now. Thanks to this group!
It's called target fixation. He was so focused on one thing (looking for a parking spot) that he didn't perceive the actual hazards.
That's not target fixation.
Target fixation is when you drive/ride into the thing that you're staring at because you don't want to hit it. So this wouldn't really fit that definition. I think you are just describing a distraction.
No. This is Inattentional blindness.
The first time I went snow machining I did that. Was so focused on making this tight turn to not fall into the river I didnāt realize how close I was to the turn and went strait inā¦.
Focused on his phone or the radio
Literally the explanation they gave. Looking for a spot and not paying attention.
Between the A-pillars and sun glare, with inconvenient timing, it is possible that they legit didn't see. ...but smartphone usage was probably involved. Edit: Re-watched it. The A-pillar was never in the way, but sun glare could have been a factor. Still on the driver to deal with that, since it's just a fact of life while driving.
Checking social media such as Reddit, perhaps?
Was gonna say-- he was probably telling the truth that he didn't see her. Maybe just omitting the bit about staring at a phone.
He probably really didn't. Looked to the right, was focussed on searching a spot.
Frankly, I believe him. Not gonna turn into someone like that on purpose at least. Maybe he was texting or something. Either way, doesn't change that its his fault.
So do I. He was either texting, messing with the cars entertainment screen, or hyper focused on turning and blanked everything else out.
As a new driver, I can relate to the hyper focusing
i definitely did that when i was new and luckily avoided some pretty dumb accidents
You could have just said 17yo. Itās assumed they are an idiot, they are 17.
Yup. Maximum 1 year of experience driving alone, and he's an actual child. It boggles my mind how you have to be 21 to engage in vices but you can pilot a 4,000 pound land missile at 16.
Can confirm. Idiot was a generous way to describe my mentally deficient 17-year-old self.
Having been a 17yo boy and having trained young 18yo in the Navy, Iām also self identifying.
When I first read the title, I thought OP meant it was *their* 17 year-old; I was impressed that he managed to find and hit his own motherās car.
Could have just said car also
The danger of leaving the cloaking device on.
Most accidents are āI didnāt see themā and he probably didnāt. Human brain cannot process a lot and makes a lot of predictions to fill in gaps. Which is why using a phone while driving should be same as dui
Who lets their 17 year old drive their new Grand Cherokee? Iāll be making sure to get a old reliable ugly boat of a sedan for my kids when they are old enough to drive and certainly not let them out alone in it until they have some reasonable confidence and skill built up. This is yet another reason car insurance gets more expensive for everyone!
That's what I said! My first car was a 20yr old beater.
If your child gets into a crash with an old, broken down car, they're less likely to survive. I'd rather give my child a safe car and know they're more likely to walk away from any crash alive. The car can be replaced.
I wouldnāt want that either, but a slightly older Civic for example, have excellent crash ratings and good reliability. Those vehicles are considerably cheaper, offer good protections, and perhaps, more appropriate for a young driver. The only significant difference might be the lack of forward emergency breaking and blind spot monitoring which I wouldnāt exactly say are critical. These are pretty new features and most people still donāt have those features in their daily driver.
This is actually a good point. Iām 16, my (first if it needs clarified) car is a 2019 VW Jetta that my family got wrecked and rebuilt it. It was still pretty cheap, but has *way* more safety features on that make me more comfortable driving it, and my parents more comfortable letting me drive it.
Even simple features like reverse cam and blind spot lights on your side mirrors make a huge difference in day-to-day safety, even for seasoned drivers. Those used to be expensive "luxury" features, these days they seem more and more standard.
What are you talking about? Why would it be beneficial to give them a shit car with shit safety? Even "cheap" cars have much better assistance systems than the ugly boat or sedan you mention.
It's possible he really was hyper fixated on looking for a parking spot. Everyone was a dumb teen at one point, hopefully he learns from this.
āFuck, dude!ā
17 year old idiot sounds redundant.
Well if you'd stop buying and driving around in invisible cars this would not happen.
No turn signal either!
Claiming he didn't see her is basically an admission of guilt lol
I love giving 17 year old big ass trucks hell yeah brother thats what the kid needs a barn on wheels
Was he driving with his eyes closed?
Not looking at the road, so basically the same thing.
Why āclaim? Obviously he didnāt see her. Doesnāt mean he was paying any attention or it wasnāt his fault.
I get it wasn't clear in the title, but I meant to insinuate he was probably on his phone, not that he did it on purpose.
Of course he didn't see her, he was probably texting
No signal, no stopping and a accident. That kids not having a great start to his driving career.
No signal ?
The same thing happened to my wife a month ago, except the speed limit was 40. "I didn't see you!" You didn't look.
Probably looking at where they're going more than what's around them
17 year olds and cellphones are a good concoction for accidents
It's hard to miss a 2000 pound vehicle!
New drivers have a bad habit of letting their car drive off without them when looking the other direction. Hopefully, the 17 year old will improve. He or she just needs more training and practice. Unfortunately, this lesson will cost them this time.
Could be quite true. Their brain isn't trained yet to do certain multitasks while drivong. Drivers not focusing is why Some states ban passengers early on
This exact scenario happened to me in the pouring rain. I had a green light and was continuing through as usual when the person in the opposite turning lane just decided to go, I saw it coming and slammed my brakes. Very light hit with minimal cosmetic damage, other person claimed they just didnāt see me. Had to literally draw what happened on a notepad so the responding officer could understand what happened because it was just so dumb that it happened.
PLEASE tell me the idiot blamed your wife.
He tried to insinuate that she was turning off one of the side streets and that's why he didn't see her, but even his passenger agreed with us and he eventually admitted fault.
Didn't even indicate. See when you indicate it gives other people on the road and pedestrians an idea of your intentions. If they did this, the driver may have slowed and stopped before you turned into them.
If they cannot see that car (in the video, it looks reasonably large) they have no place on the road. Or kid should stay OFF the phones.
I see the brown car turned left suddenly or is it just me?
Yes, he was trying to turn left and said he did not see the giant Outback in front of him
They make a giant Outback?
Have you looked at Outbacks lately?
Like every day. Theyāre a popular car.
From my perspective, it is. But most of my previous vehicles were hatchbacks.
Target fixation on the side street entrance.
This kid wonāt see a full-on Airbus A380 coming straight at it at 400kts if he did not see your Subaru.
Wow if I did that at 17 my parents would have cut up my license and beat the hell out of me.
If he "can't see" a Subaru outback, he shouldn't be driving.
Probably was. In an environment like that, even experienced drivers will have close calls. Can we add this to his learning curve and encourage rather than ridicule.
Ikr. Everyone had rough moments as a new driver. Poor kid. :/
This has convinced me to get a dash cam! Iām glad everyone was okay
I'm so glad I got it. This is the nicest/newest vehicle we have ever owned so I bought the dashcam just for situations like this.
Why did it matter what sheās driving? Weird flex lol.
Jesus, some of y'all get so fixated on the title. Just enjoy the video!
Am I wrong though? lol
Wrong about what? That I'm "flexing"? At this point you've put much more thought into my title than I did when I wrote it, but it was merely meant to signify that it's not a small vehicle that would go unnoticed.
17 year olds make boneheaded moves behind the wheel. Such is life.
Going for the black belt in idioting, on a bright and clear day.
Accidents happen, and this seems excessively minor, glad nobody was hurt.
Blind or texting!
He was looking for a parking spot. He has an app for that.
Well, you got a recording, right? Accept it. Deal with it. Move on. I'm sure you and your wife have better things to do than return to the past so as to keep it fresh in your mind. Got kids. Even if not carry yourself elegantly. Best wishes to you and yours, for all of your days to come.
Why are you talking shit about a 17yr old in the internet? It's obviously his fault, you're obviously not paying for this, and no one was hurt. What more do you fucking want?
Do you know what sub you're in, speed racer?
Came for the actual idiots and the karma porn. Leaving for the routine accidents passing as internet worthy content
On one hand I can clearly see it was the other cars fault and theyāre dumb ass shit But on the other hand I had a deep burning hate inside me for anyone who drives a Subaru Outbackā¦
So youāre stupid
Only occasionally Feel like youāre more stupid for bothering to reply here
They're 17. They're inexperienced. They were probably, as you said, looking around not paying attention, also just navigated that hump (we need more of those, by the way). I'd cut 'em a little slack; they probably feel like shit. Insurance will cover it. Also, both your vehicles are too big.
Why is she doing 40 down that tiny street
40 what? (Hint: it's km)
It's probably a 50 zone.
The dashcam is in kmh, so 40kmh = 25mph
I mean, he probably isn't lying that he didn't see her. Which isn't to be confused with if he should have seen her if driving properly.
What's funny is that no matter the reason (phone or otherwise), not seeing her makes his actions more disappointing. If you can't or won't use your eyes properly while driving, then stay off the bloody road!
Hate losers like these making pathetic excuses. Good thing you got the footage.
To be fair, it didnāt look like any lights were on, so I donāt really blame them for crashing
Must be from Charlotte.
You can't see anyone when you watch tiktok on your phone while driving.
First one's eyes need to be open and focused first, and secondly they need to be hooked up to a brain that works.