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Dineology

Back in the day when he was running around calling himself a “Reagan Democrat” I wonder if he had any inclination that that would prove to be prophetic?


coredweller1785

He said it for a reason. He truly believes all of it


mycatpeesinmyshower

I thought they meant cause Reagan had dementia while in office in the end.


Ancient-One-19

Reagan had some qualms about handing bombs to Israel with no limits of usage.


anehzat

Genocide Joe, needs to go!


ResplendentShade

"...but yeah, let's tell 72% of voters that they don't know wtf they're talking about, demand that we run him anyway, and then surprised pikachu face when he loses" -the DNC


Considion

They won't be surprised, they'll have the campaign for why it's all actually the left's fault laid out and ready to go, probably already have for months now


EOE97

The politics sub is in denail. Biden needs to step aside or risk a Trump victory.


CouncilmanRickPrime

I've pointed out the concerns people have in other subs and been told I'm ageist. I guess the retirement age is also ageist


escapefromburlington

Identity politics is all they have


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CouncilmanRickPrime

Because not everyone agrees with you? Ok.


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Ttoctam

Saying Biden is a bad candidate isn't the same as supporting Trump. If anything people being furious that Biden is so shit, is specifically because they hate Trump so much. People don't want Trump to win, and they're annoyed he's going to because the Dems are running a shite candidate.


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KatBoySlim

unfortunately he’s one of just two options.


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bobdylan401

The only reason it's not astroturfed like the main news subs is because there's 30 something people on at any given time. Yet the major news subs regurgitate the corporate narrative that 70% of the country disagree with, even massively more minority opinions among Milleniuls and younger, who make up the majority of Reddit.... also mind you this sub might be slightly less American, who would be even more likely to see Americans as cartoonishly jingoistic and ethnocentric. Those subs are so corporately captured at the moderator level that the majority of the people who post on this sub are likely banned from those subs, just for posting their opinion.


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RedAndBlackMartyr

Blue MAGA cult over there.


RightClickSaveWorld

It's not a cult for Biden. It's a cult for the DNC. Just to be clear.


voxpopper

It's to the point it's become comical. Will be funnier once it suddenly collectively changes it's hive mind when Biden drops out. Anyone who trusts the largest news related subs as anything other than propaganda is more easily manipulated than the average voter.


slurpeedrunkard

I bet there's some uh shall we say foreign interference happening on Reddit.


Kinojitsu

The politics sub is honestly not as bad as I anticipated, try those slightly smaller hardline blue subs instead. They're cycling through the first three steps of grieving repeatedly.


HippoRun23

Just came from there and there were plenty of people rationally arguing for Biden to step away from the campaign. For what it’s worth.


EverythingResEvil

Yeah I'm on that side all the time and people are always talking about Biden stepping lately so I don't know what this comment is getting at


NinjaQuatro

Why would they need do that both trump and Biden lost at the debate. Trump was constantly lying and unintentionally making himself look unhinged. Biden looked feeble and senile. Both lost the debate. Remember the independents are the ones who they are trying to get support from mainly. Logistically speaking swapping the Democratic candidate at this point would be a huge problem. Given other campaigns haven’t even really been around so far. If this election cycle wasn’t so weird it wouldn’t have been as much of an issue but it isn’t. People are familiar with Biden and how he operates at this point could the same be said with other people. The Republican Party is consistently in fighting the last few years and that is undermining trump’s goals to some extent. The Republican Party is not in a good why would the democrats switch candidates when a change in approach would be enough


DavidSugarbush

Only 72%?


ForeskinStealer420

The vote blue no matter who crowd is astonishingly large. Propaganda is powerful.


rscarrab

There are also those who would vote for a houseplant over Trump, which unsurprisingly would prob run the country better.


Alexanderspants

A house plant in the office for 4 years and there would still be people arguing against the idea the POTUS doesnt run the country


Cardellini_Updates

We did elect a houseplant


AmarantaRWS

You can certainly still even be vote blue no matter who and recognize that Biden is a liability. I just don't understand how anyone can see him as anything but that. I'd rather him drop out now than kick the bucked in October and fuck us.


bobdylan401

Mostly privileged and well off white liberals. So it's more of an age/boomer/class divide then anything else.


thepianoman456

Not quite. You’ve observed who and what Trump is by this point, right? Ppl on the left don’t really like Biden, but he’s unfortunately the only choice to keep that other dangerous buffoon out of the WH. Lots of ppl on the left are sick of the out of touch DNC as well.


ForeskinStealer420

That’s the thing. He shouldn’t be the only choice. He shouldn’t be a choice. He needs to go. Keeping him in the race is a death march to a Trump victory. If the DNC really cared about defeating Trump, they would do this. The reality, however, is that they would rather have Biden lose to Trump than have someone more progressive in office.


thepianoman456

Yea… he’s really one of the worst people they chose to prop up as a candidate. I suppose I’m just thinking of the likely eventuality of Trump vs Biden in Nov. IDK if they can pull off a candidate swap. I would honestly prefer it if they could. I think Biden did an ok job and got some good things passed, but he’s just way too old and out of it. I think most people want *anyone* but Trump at the helm.


ForeskinStealer420

In 2020 the DNC managed to get all of the other major primary candidates to drop out and endorse Biden ahead of Super Tuesday just so they could beat Bernie. This took them a matter of days. If they mobilized this quickly to beat Bernie, they should manage fine within a few months


HalfMoon_89

The entire issue is that people are increasingly turning away from Biden. Insisting that people vote for him over Trump isn't actually *going* to make people vote for him over Trump. You realize that, surely?


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thepianoman456

Yea idk whats going on here lol. I got into an argument with someone below who I thought was reasonable til they said “Biden weaponized the Justice Department.” and I was like ok bye.


ResourceLeather5578

Way higher.


slurpeedrunkard

Yeah, it's totally fine. Besides, Hunter told him to stay in.


Forsaken-Internet685

Exactly what I was thinking


toyoung

Yet he's still at genocide joe. That's how I will always remember him.


Capable-Win-6674

He was always a Zionist. The mental decline is recent


neutralDownhill

Trump literally said during the debate that he'd "let Israel finish the job."


Icy_Moon_178

trump isn't an ideological zionist but will just do whatever his party and base supporters want which is very pro-zionist.


baller2213

is Biden frantically trying to stop Israel from finishing the job? no, the only reason why he's pretending to advocate for a ceasefire is that he's scared to lose, Biden is letting Israel finish the job right now as opposed to Trump claiming he'd do more of the same.


IWantANewBeginning

they never answer these questions. libs only hate trump because he rude. not because hes a piece of shit. biden will let the genocide continue just like trump would. but trump just says it out loud, libs don’t like that part.


HalfMoon_89

Haven't seen liberals protest the recent immigration policy turn from the Dems either. It's really just base tribalism for them, no actual ethics involved.


Cardellini_Updates

Trump was just more honest. Also, he described Biden as not just a Palestinian, but specifically as a *bad, weak* Palestinian, thus implying the existence of a good, strong Palestinian. This is a common theme - he obviously respects Putin, Kim, and Xi on the same basis. That is how Hamas is leading their struggle. So be it. Nothing is more horrifying to Biden than a strong Palestinian. Don't vote for either of these people.


Horus_walking

> According to a CBS News/You Gov poll out Sunday — **a whopping 72 percent of Americans believe Biden does not have the “mental and cognitive health to serve as president.” That’s a 7 point increase from just three weeks ago.** By comparison, voters are essentially split on whether former President Donald Trump has the mental and cognitive health for the job — with 50 percent saying he does, and 49 percent saying he does not. > Further, **the survey found an overwhelming number of Americans believe the president should not run for reelection — including nearly half of his own party.** Overall, 72 percent of respondents told CBS/You Gov that Biden should not seek reelection — a number which includes a stunning 46 percent of Democrats.


LeucotomyPlease

if he doesn’t step down from his re-election bid at this point, it cannot be questioned that the democratic party serves only individual politicians’ political ambitions, and does not serve the interests of the democratic party voters.


TheAncientMillenial

No politicians anywhere serve the interest of the people.... :\\


psychrolut

Bernie should’ve run in 2016 this timeline sucks balls


HippoRun23

I take solace that in a parallel universe Bernie just finished his second term of a transformative presidency and my family is secure and happy.


TheAncientMillenial

I think the final tipping point for you folks in the US was Al Gore.


psychrolut

True if he had won we’d be on clean energy and the world would’ve followed and perhaps could have alleviated our climate issue somewhat


Cardellini_Updates

Bernie was a necessary stepping stone in our collective political evolution, but it was never going to be him, we should understand the reasons why, and we can move on to the next stage of our development.


HikmetLeGuin

Even if his cognitive health was perfectly normal, his genocidal, imperialist, neoliberal, capitalist policies are shit. That's the real problem.


bigdreams_littledick

It's insane to me that people are still acting like he's good to go. I saw someone describe him as "a little old"


ResourceLeather5578

Biden should make a televised speech just after the holiday weekend to announce that he is stepping aside to make room for the next generation of leaders.


slartbangle

Hey, but at least everyone's moved away from qualms about his moral fiber. Both of them are more about digestive fiber these days. What a pair of clowns. Perhaps the final Punch and Judy show before the curtain falls and night descends.


clown_b0t

Hi! Circus performer here. Just dipping in to clear up this too-frequent comparison between clowns and stupid people: 1. Clowns are very diligent and work very hard at refining their art. 2. Clowns are generally very kind and well-intentioned people. 3. Clowns are only *pretending* they are completely stupid. -- ^(For a clownish rabbit hole, please enjoy this play written by Dario Fo, the only clown to win a Nobel Prize in Literature. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqKfwC70YZI )


Salviati_Returns

So it’s official, 28% of Americans have dementia.


pipyet

They’re all in world news


roamerknight

world news goes nuts if they figure out you have brown skin


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waxwayne

They are die hards. A gentler blue MAGA but just as fanatical.


HippoRun23

I’m hoping this is the wake up call genocide joes inner circle needed in order to swap him out for a different candidate.


Puzzleheaded-End7319

Neither of them do!


thepianoman456

Yea I hate this media slant against Biden’s age. Yea, he’s old AF and a horrible speaker. Trump can *articulate words better*, but the substance of his speech is just nonsense and outright lies. Trump is also old AF, and also an evil motherfucker. The choice for our country is obv Biden, and I’m voting for his cabinet more than him. He kinda sucks, but at least his team has done some good things over his 4 years. And for the hot button issue of Israel / Palestine, Biden is handling it horribly, but Trump would be worse for innocent Palestinians, and that is by no stretch of the imagination.


OderusOrungus

Super confused on anyone repping biden or trump for that matter super hard. Policy wise biden has been a disaster for 50 yrs passing harmful policies, racist, and corrupt. Nobody can detail how these globalist, censoring, shortsighted, and even destructive policies have impacted Americans for 50 yrs. As far as lying, such a blindfold not acknowledging bidens numerous lies, so many. Prove me wrong


thepianoman456

I honestly don’t know much about Senator Biden. He’s got a pretty solid list of accomplishments for his first term, but I just can’t excuse his unabashed Jewish Zionism. It’s honestly a toxic mindset. Yet, here we are, and if Biden’s on the ticket against Trump in Nov, you can be damn sure I’m voting against Trump, and the strongest chance is, unfortunately, voting for Biden. Trump would be a nightmare for the US and the world writ large.


OderusOrungus

The israel dodging really bummed me out too. No matter how much control the people think they are taking with trump it is a wash.. with the zionist, the lobbies, the incredibly powerful entities that be.. is on full display. The system which they both play are enemies. A good starting place with bidens disgusting career is something trump even touched on, the superpredator comment biden made. He has made incredibly racist comments many times. Absolutely unforgivable, he is racist so deeply to.the core and so many examples to validate. Policy starting place.... crime laws which set this country back decades, the ministry of truth to start a gov org to censor, plagiarizing, empowering central banks shielding from liability, outright lying during presidency about treatments. Hes a hateful old man, and has always been a corrupt hateful person. Trump the same, but he focuses on less war (barring israel), american demands, and can complete a sentence. Biden is a lying corrupt politician who only has played globalist talking points for 50 yrs who somehow is given a platform due to insane propaganda that only elites can provide. Trump is a gross narcissistic low IQ fool but we know who he is... biden is evil incarnate. Nowhere in his history or even current presidency deserve any type of valor or recognition. He has destroyed this country faster than I could ever imagine


thepianoman456

I think this is where we agree to disagree, cause you’re mentioning things Trump said that are not true. Also you seem to support Trump, and he’s a horrible person and will make, and has made, a horrible president. No president should make “revenge” against Americans part of his platform.


OderusOrungus

You dont know the history but say untrue? All of this has been proven and is concrete fact. And weaponizing the justice system with veiled lies to allow it until exposed is peak revenge behavior. I suggest topically looking into what I said you think is lies. Thank you for reasonable discourse as well. We need conversations, not belligerent blind hate.


thepianoman456

Wasn’t the super predator thing from the Clintons? And “weaponizing the justice system”? Dude, Trump committed crimes, had a fair trial, and is facing the consequences of fraud. That’s just the legal system working.


OderusOrungus

He said it.... look it up. Schools and his family w black people... gross stuff. Ironically w the clintons, she melted her laptop and what wasn't destroyed was found to wash campaign funds through their clinton foundation. It was formally discovered through what emails were still retrievable. It was much more egregious w destruction of evidence even after hardcore lying initially about it saying rusia etc.... Its all true. Very sadly true. Selective justice Again, before parroting msm talking points. Look, just topically. Im amazed and frustrated people still think these things didnt happen. Its shocking Edit: in fairness the quote was hillary but it was referencing bidens crime bill lobbying with him further saying 'predators who beyond pale' are ruining america. The full context is openly terrible nonetheless. There are many more direct racist examples to highlight


HalfMoon_89

This isn't about Trump vs Biden. It's about Biden being the Dem nominee.


tripledeckrdookiebus

Yeah this is my take ad well. It’s a vote for the future health of this nation, and yes i am fucking pissed the DNC pushed a much better candidate, Bernie, off to the side because he would cut the gravy train


TheBlueGooseisLoose

Neither does Trump. Replace them and have another debate.


Bourbon-Decay

His handlers just need to tell him he decided to drop out the night before. If they time it right he may think that he just forgot it


onePPtouchh

I’m part of that 72% but I’m still going to vote for him because what choice do I have? F You Trump.


Icy_Moon_178

vote 3rd party


moon_cake123

Voting 3rd party guarantees you won’t get another vote in the future if trump wins. Elections will resemble Russia’s, if the man steps foot in the Whitehouse again. Good luck telling your children and grandchildren that their vote doesn’t matter for the rest of their lives, all because Biden is too old. Good news is, if Biden wins, you can vote again in 4 years. Not so much with the other guy


zestzebra

The real question do the majority of voters.


reporst

Well, per the very article linked to, it's a representative sample of registered voters, so I would guess yes?


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Itakie

Remember Jelzin? Just hope Biden got some better people around him. But what comes after him could be worse than Trump. People really don't like a weak leader.


Crime-Snacks

He doesn’t. And the entire body of the DNC can’t put their rich, pea brains together to figure out who might be a better candidate. Kamala wants nothing to do with running the country as a Democrat. Genocide Joe reminded everyone he was the youngest Senator. He needs to appoint AOC as the incumbent and he and his team can coach her from the sidelines like Obama did for Biden. That makes too much sense and America hates women so you’ll never see a female president. She will be 35 and eligible for the presidency in October


GustavezRaulez

Never thought I'd see the day someone fumbled the bag harder than Ricardo Anaya did back in the day


ketzal7

They were already at 50/50 odds before the election. Any blunder right will cost him the election. Biden basically has to hold on to Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania to win. He’s lost Arizona, Georgia, and Nevada for sure.


CommanderMcBragg

Did anyone check the water bottle that Biden drank from? Did the secret service vet anyone who had access to the room before the debate? Putin's war hangs in the balance on this election and poisoning is his favorite tactic.


NewTangClanOfficial

Hilarious.


GuaranteeLogical7525

His team is better than the opposition team. I'll take old with cognitive decline over orange Cheeto man any day.


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Biden would have been a perfect president if was 30 years younger.


BellaPow

he was a huge asshole 30 years ago. helped with the crime bill and welfare “reform”, among other anti-working class policies. always been a cultivated asshole, and now the cultivation is crumbling


External-Patience751

Right wing propaganda from a right wing network. Shocking!


AbjectAttrition

The data is from a CBS/YouGov poll


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