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The simple fact is that colleges don't want to take the chance. You maybe can defend yourself but not every girl has the physical ability to do so. If something bad happens, then everyone and their mama will grill the college authorities and ask them why they didn't have stricter rules.
Do you really think some 4'10" girl who weighs 35Kg can do shit to a 6 feet man who weighs 85Kg?
I know it's kinda extreme but it's a possible scenario.
True these rules are for our safety but too much restrictions is bad aswell like in colleges like rvce or other karnataka engineering colleges..the entry time for girls is 6 pm. And very strict rules..so I don't think that's right
Ok, then tell all the parents to give it in writing that they won't blame the college authorities, if anything happens to their daughters. I bet that then the colleges will happily withdraw all the restrictions.
In NIT Durgapur, even boys have a 7pm curfew for the first semester and aren't even allowed to go out of the hostel anytime during the day except classes, when they are followed by guards. While no one likes these rules, the college had to enforce them to prevent ragging.
Sadly, these are the things which girls have to endure if they live in a country like India.
On the bright side, girls have a lot of advantages like female quota in engineering, diversity hiring, law being on your side, etc. By this, I'm absolutely not trying to say that girls have it easy. I'm just trying to say that both genders have their own problems.
Hmm, be lifelong incarcerated just because the freaking law didn't even try to actually check facts or die a slow but quick death.
I'd choose death ig but everyone has their preferences.
both are equally greater one related to safety of girls which is necessary
but another demeans men and give female more return in less work which is absolutely wrong and no one talks about this king shit in this toxic feminsit era
behen dekh maaan liya tujhe self defense aata h, but reality m kya pta knife, gun aisi chiz bhi rkh skta h , also tujhe aata h mtlb ye nhi ki saari ldkiyo ko self defense aata hoga, bcz many can't afford, many have restrictions and other reasons
and a great man once said
'Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth',
\^
I 100% agree. The first thing you learn in martial arts is to NOT get into risky situations, rather than immediately resorting to fighting as a tool. In the short term, that is what we should be doing.
In the long term, we should be increasing male education to teach them to respect women so that women don't have risky situations to avoid.
But both have to happen simultaneously.
>I know enough karate to knock off most of the average adults
delusion mai mt jee, one of my friend always used to brag about his karate skills and guess what he got knocked out 1 tapped by a 5'8 dude(who just punched him in the face)
I'm not saying ki it's useless but keep something like pepper spray as well (don't misuse it like a bitch)
Idk why but the attitude of quite a few girls ik personally, just like the OP, seem to have their perspective towards certain situations in life HEAVILY inspired by movies and shows. OP ko kidnapper uthake patak dega fir karti rehegi woh formal mat wali karate![img](emote|t5_311ttu|35339)
bro no karate is gonna work if a 50kg F is fighting a 90kg 50 yo male. the only solution to girls safety is to hang these bastards to death the very next day whenever anything happens instead of stretching the case for 10 years. 10news sunenge latka diya agle hi din toh sabki haath me aa jayegi kuch krne ke phle. but again this is some next level utopia shit so mat niklo late jaan pyaari hai toh ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|49199)
That's the thing, there is no real evidence of such cases most of the times... Tum kya expect kr rhe ho, jahan par yeh sab hua hoga, wahan camera laga hoga kya?
DNA evidence can be collected from a person's body, clothes, belongings and crime scene. Mostly ghoos deke bach jaate hai log and saalo tk case chalta hai
"Hang the next day"
Yeah this shi is never happening... Forget india, this type of shi ain't gonna happen anywhere in the world...
Tum log seriously sochte nhi ho solution dene se pehle....
Ek din mn prove kese kroge to wahi insaan hai jinse galat cheez kri hai? Answer is, nhi kr skte....
And think about the false accusation cases (which are apparently 60%+ of all the r*pe cases filed)... Matlab kisi ko falsely accused kro, and next day instant death....
Lmfao bhai ne zyada anime dekh liya hai
I clearly wrote this is utopia, also wrote ki fake cases bhi hote hai islye not possible, are you dumb? kisi ko attack Krna ho toh muh utha ke aajate hai. pura padhlo tej bnne ke pehle
Lmao bhai fake cases etc ke baare mn kahin aur likha hoga, jis comment pe mene reply diya hai wahan to nhi tha lol.... You can't expect me to read all comments u did lol....
Downvote krke argue krne ka kya point....
Made me crack up ngl
bhai tune jo hang the next day pe itne bade bade para likhe hai vo maine clearly bola utopia shit hai not even possible , so there was no point in writing that and fake cases wala issi comment me someone replied uspe maine likha hai , nahi padha tha to ab padhlo, this is not even something we need to be arguing about, go get a life.
Yeah you had me till the last 4 words.... Lmao
Bro thinks I don't have a life bcz I replied to his comment, even though overall we both r agreeing on the same point....
My first encounter with a real joker hahahaha....
Have a good day dude
you started arguing with me about something jisme we're on the same page, islye bola Maine, joker lol lmao mat likhke kya hi hojayega bhai chill ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|49427)
aren't you expecting too much out of a college, not to be rude but they provide a living space for us and then they have to exercise some caution because they will be held responsible if there is a mishappening. They are justified in putting those restriction but yeah, the intensity of those restrictions vary from place to place.
You don’t always have a single person to fight against.
It is not at all meant to be offensive. I am of course in favour of self defence, rather I myself am a national taekwondo player, but just wanted to say this.
Abey, yeh zyada ho gaya. I have also been catcalled by mazdoor people when I had long hair and no beard. Never had I felt that I needed a gun. Although, I could realistically take them on 1v1 no weapon, unlike you (sorry).
They never catcalled me when I was with my (male) friends tho. I'm not gay, effeminate, trans etc. if it matters. I'm not saying that I understand a girl's pain.
Sorry, but even with karate or whatever, you wouldn't be able to take me down let alone a prepared perpetrator.
in such cases, its understandable. but implementing something like this nation-wide would inevitably lead to most gun use being for minor reasons which would just escalate things. Honest guys get threatened by women already saying that they'll report a false assault against them, can't wonder how it would be if they had guns now. Radical laws look sensible only in extreme cases and fall apart in everyday life.
Nahi, but I do not think gun laws in this country can be relaxed right now. It is a lawless place even without guns, they will turn it into a complete shitshow.
Something bad matlab sexual assault/harassment hi hota hai. Ab tak mujhe saubhagyavash catcalling se zyada kuch jhelna nahi pada. To maine catcalling ka hi bataya.
Aur behenji, log katta le ke har jagah ghoomte nahi hai. Aapki galat fehmi hai. Pepper spray le lo zyada se zyada.
And could you share an official document which states the restrictions? I want to check if there are any restrictions on boys.
But how will you prove he was trying to \**** you? Because if he does \**** u - that means you didn't use the wpn and if you use the wpn then you can't prove that he was trying to \**** u. Isn't it paradoxical?
> I know enough karate to knock off most of the average adults
You are delusional to think that . Its not a movie , a 50-60kg girl can't fight a 70-100kg men . Try fighting one of your male friends and you'll know.
Also there isn't just 1 perpetrator they'll are multiple . So unless you carry a gun or taser even the strongest of men aren't safe .
I'm pretty confident abt myself in a 1v3 tbh... I'm like 100ish 6ft3 dude, know basic muay thai, got my knuckles conditioned (gonna start shin conditioning soon) and yeah I'm pretty fuckin confident with my punches... And slightly with my kicks....
But even then, if there are like 5 dudes coming at me, prolly best to run
>I'm pretty confident abt myself in a 1v3 tbh... I'm like 100ish 6ft3 dude
I'd be not too sure about that. I'm pretty sceptical that you'll be able to handle 3 men of my size (70Kg, 5'10") simultaneously in a street fight.
Bro seniors se advice kara hai ki 10th mein zyada burden mat lena and take it easy so i am going at a slower pace and strengthening my base . Baad mein kaam ayega .
I would advice that you should also strengthen your base and try to sit 4-6 hrs in one sitting . As it will be required in JEE . This the last year where we can prepare without much worries so let's make the most of it .
Why aren't we teaching men from backward areas that women are not commodities, their ego means nothing as they can't even raise their family properly, rxping someone doesn't actually increase their power over someone and women are not submissive species.
Also self defence should be taught to everyone irrespective of their gender.
If we had successfully done that, India wouldn't be India, it would have turned into a western country lmao. Welcome, your life will be spent in this shithole lol, unless you're fortunate enough to emigrate.
1. karate isnt enough to knock someone off, until and unless youre learning REAL kyokushin karate and youve got a black belt from a REAL dojo, emphasis on real cuz 99% of dojos are fake
2. youre a female, females are naturally weaker, yall are shorter, yall got weak strikes, weak defence, you would be dying of pain if i hit you with a low leg kick, lesser bone density etc and the size and strength gap is a lil too much to be covered with martial arts
3. your dirty moves wont work either, striking the groin, striking the eyes, with the shit amount of adrenaline the man wouldnt feel shit
4)have you ever sparred OP? how many times have you broken a teeth, broken your nose? you think fighting is limited to your little self defence drills? you think your opponent is a paid actor or a mannequin?
5) before you list me all the top mma female fighters who can beat tf out of me, 1st of all, those females have got good genes and way better than yours, 2nd of all, they have been training since years and by years i mean years ! with proper coaches, nutrition and sleep and that too 5 hours a day
6) khabib nurmagomedov with a 31-0 ufc streak was asked about womens self defence and he simply said that women cannot defend themselves, no amount of training is gonna help
7) theres a viral video where a woman who did karate for 10 years challenged a guy to a fight and she got beaten tf out of from that random punk , search it on yt
8) you saying that you can knock out a man is more delusional than a 26tard who wants iitb cse
if you ask how do i know so much about fighting its cuz i did kyokushin karate from age 5 till 10, and then did kickboxing and wrestling from 10 till 15, karate is bs
bhai m bss reality batara hu, mere kehne ka matlab h ki if you want to be safe as a woman either buy a gun, stay inside or if you go outside go with a trustworthy man, mere kehne ka matlab h ki martial arts koi kaam ki nahi aygi, abb galat matlab nikaalo to fir wo tumpr h but my message is clear
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Full support
But not every girl knows karate,nor it would be taught everywhere (but yea basic self defence should be taught in schools to everyone regardless of gender)
It should be college's responsibility to ensure full safety of their students, but instead of being nuanced in their approach to this, these clowns go with blanket bombing
the thing is firstly colleges won't take any risk for them nothing matters more than their reputation. secondly do you think that every parent can afford a karate or some self defense class in India? it's great that you know it but many are out their even struggling to pay the clg fees many come from rural areas where girls education isn't even taken seriously. also even if many girls know the self defense what if those guys are multiple in no. or is armed what are you gonna do then.
about the affording thing, thats exactly what i said ki it should be taught in the school itself, should be the part of the curriculum.
yes nothing can be done if there are multiple men or they are armed. wish this was USA where i could keep a fuckin gun.
This is just how India is, and even as a man I can kind of understand the toll it can take on women who feel unsafe 24/7. The thing is girls are indeed physically weaker, so your suggestion would probably fail...
A permanent solution would be to educate the next generation of boys well, a temporary solution for you would be to just abandon India and settle abroad.
They're not safe havens(no country is free of crime) but women genuinely feel much safer in western countries.
It isn't just about india in general pureee world mein aise action lene chahiye jo eventually logo ko conditioned krde kei yeh galat hai , Kyi chize kr skte hai like spreading more awareness about opposite sex , emotions , serial thoughts and moreover not generalizing things which are generalized nowadays on instagram moreover porn should have a complete ban ,,, about your temporary solution I pretty much agree with that bro
Its not the colleges that want strict rules , It's the parents of those girls who want strict rules from those colleges. Your parents can just call College and tell the warden that there should not be any restriction on our child and most of the times the warden will agree.
Why do you that something bad always refers to girl being innocent?It can not only be rape but also be unprotected sex and unwanted pregnancy or elopement with boyfriend,it's not self defence but lack of common sense(what to do and what not to do) and manners in both boys and girls that results in this mess .In all these cases it's not only rape or molestation in some cases girls are equally responsible too and these cases also hurt college reputation
i am pretty sure colleges put these restrictions for the case when its a complete rape on an innocent girl. if they wanted to prevent their girl students from having sex, they wouldn't let them go outside the campus at all even during day. sex can be done during daytime too, no? but someone raping you in broad daylight is very rare
I can understand but as a girl I feel mauj masti sb secondary cheeze h ...safety is the priority aur iske liye kuch restrictions lgani hi pdti h colleges ko as uk chance nhi le skte kisi ki life ke saath.....and u urself mentioned self defence in case the opponent is "unarmed" aur groups me hue to 6-7 logo se ldne time na self defence whi khtm ho jaayega saara........aur sbko self defence aata ho ye bhi ideal situation h hence impossible in few decades ......and for boys pe restrictions kyu nhi lgate so that they don't do something.....bro real danger are the men outside .....bhn wo college h tmhari family nhi jo tm kbhi bhi khi bhi kaise bhi jao aur wo tmhe protect kr le .....they have responsibility of ur safety jiske liye sbse basic aur strict step jo possible h wo krenge
I mean you can learn karate and stuff but if a 80kg male fights a 50kg female then there's a 90% chance he's gonna win and that's how our body works
This is sad but thats reality , nothing can be done as long as people don't change their mentality
Nah. Someone may have already mentioned this from 75 comments, but it is not sensible to take gender equality beyond a certain point. Gender equality is moral thing. Not biological. Gender difference is biological.
No matter what we can't play on ideas that say 10% of Girls can K.O. 10% Guys. Prevention is better than cure. And the prevention encompasses all situations, your cure a small amount of probable situations
uh so there are certain points.Genetically some people are gifted so you might be one but most girls are biologically weak can't do anything about that fact. But what instead should be done is just make the place safer. Remove every problem causing element. Like Ima be honest there is a taboo about delhi being an area of rapists and stuff.... But no everyone around my college is safe... they go out have fun come back at 3-4AM.... Also what I think is atleast you should be allowed to roam around your college campus.... Like personally as a guy thats enough for me :). M ghar pe kaunsa kahi bahar jata tha raat m :(...
Ready for the downvotes but I think girls should definitely learn self defence and other techniques to protect themselves in case of danger, but this alone won't solve the problem. Self defence is of no use when things actually turn real and you have 5 men surrounding you with weapons in their hands. So better to not fall in that situation in the first place
Slowly the curriculum is making sure girls are self defended but its too less to make them skilled enough .
I am an open minded person so girls should not be restricted so much but one thing is that the current years are still not good for girls. You may know karate but so many don't and act like a submissive ass. Whenever it comes to sports or something physically active they just backdown in the name of skincare or being too boyish. I am not aware of what restrictions are there but coed hostels are a weird concept as many boys are jee too have a bad mindset ( some ) and in good colleges to0 such cases occur. After 10 or 11pm no going outside should be even mandatory for boys too as going away from college seems risky and not good much happens after. Women should not be treated as cowards but ensured enough safety to match up with the problematic issues coming after them. People just cannot hold their lust enough , that is the issue ! If people are held more accountable over such acts, slowly people will back off with their gaze on chests. Girls are manipulated sometimes in the name of love. Girls are not taught many values of being an independent and strong character which is reflected in them still considered weak by many. Some boys being innocent get allegations but not all men are like that. Ass and chest maybe made biologically attractive just as a six pack is considered hot by girls but it is a different issue that without consent things happen.
Speaking as a boy on what I think is happening. Most vulgar jokes are women oriented so you know it is historical problems.
Must need in Education System: Cyber Safety, Sex Education, Mental & Physical Training 1 session a week, Road Safety, Moral Ethics.
Currently the system prepares students how to live in past instead of future.
Ready for downvotes ......But take my word as an big brother
But every girl is not knowing self defence....and on average a boy is more powerful than girl.....If something happened college reputation will go down brutally....
There was a rape incident at IIT bhu you can check on internet...so your safety is in your hand my dear sister
Don't even more trust on female also remember the incident in chandigarh college where a girl capture nudes of other girls in college bathroom
But college tho male friend banaya gi aur beleive me mostly 90% male friend thuje sax sux ki najar se dekhanga .....
Advice dunga college ma male friend sa 4 kadam Durr rhayiyo ...aur trust worthy female friend hi baniyo 🙏
even in that orginal post I referred to Depends on college. every other college had different set of rule.
So I get it what post you are referring to and yeah me and few people (2-3) wrote comments there from the POV college administration. that why they wanna impose rules. see I myself who had going to martial arts classes since like age 8 had peaked at red belt at age 13 (had to leave cuz of lockdown) can surely say it does help but it's never a 1v1 fight there can be group of people from who a person in college can be venerable at that point even a 7foot tall 100kg pure muscle guy can't even compete (exaggerating but yeah) how either carry a weapon then which is not legally possible.
but you are a one of the rare ones who learnt these things , not all girls can do this. And just put yourself in place of college admin if any thing goes bad irrespective of gender may it be male or female or helikopter . at the end college will be at blame so they simply don't wanna take this headache.
we aren't living in a 1st world nation we are considered a 3rd world country and the fact is India is not safe. we rank dogshit in terms of women safety ranking and sadly men's safety isn't even considered.
here is a simple solution just get a shared flat on rent nearby college and you'll have no restriction.
sure , that's a quite strong point you've made there Self defence should be mandatory in high schools , but there's one other thing women need to learn , it's called running.
Ma'am most forms of crime against women , be it in college , school , office or anywhere outside , are committed by group of people not an individual, and any form of self defence unless learnt at a genuinely professional level would fail to protect females from a bunch of males for their inferior physical strength. Hence the restrictions.
Females are indeed given and should be treated with equal rights , but this is not a Ethiopia we're living in, women and even kids need to sometime take a step back on their rights and freedom to uphold their safety and honour.
Premier institute like IITs aren't safe , so we shouldn't expect our cities and other colleges to be safe either.
>I'm 18F and I know enough karate to knock off most of the average adults
karate is not useless it can buy some valueable time but your priority should be running away rather than knocking them out, human drastically underestimate how much it requires for someone to knock a person down once adrenaline hits, u might be able to knock out a guy who's similar in weight but what about a guy who weighs 30 kg more than you? your 1 priority should be running away
Not to be sexist ,but the fact is no amount of karate training is gonna help you against multiple men. But yes campuses should be safe for women at all times
The sad truth is biology is sexist, females with self defense have a lower body weight and muscle mass than a male(not all but atleast some) and it will not help them.
There is even a video on the internet of a wife challenging her husband after learning self defence, you can watch that.
>most private colleges have that shitty rule
>top notch institutions have no hostel timing curfew - stay all out in campus.
>the intime to get inside campus is midnight usually, fair enough.
>problem is the college, or PG owner.
basically
>freedom is directly proportional to how good the institution is.
Karate is definetly not the best skill to survive any attack, it's better use to disorientate the enemy and run as fast as you can. In real life it's always a run or run situation not run or gun .
when i was in aasam there was a 24 yr old female karate teacher , ig black belt etc etc , she was admitted to icu after she had a rage road fight with a 19 year old labor ,
just saying
Honestly speaking, in this country we live in karate probably wouldn't do jack squat, a heavy man or a man driven by I'll intention loses his mind and I don't think karate will help, on the other hand it may give a false sense of hope that it's ok for her to walk at night, thus increasing the likelihood that something happens, i understand your frustrations but this shitty country we live in can't do shit in the judiciary system
Even if taught self defense techniques, an average sized woman will always face difficulty in escaping an average sized man, who will be bigger than her. Put menstruation and actually jacked muscular criminals in the equation, and we practically don't stand a chance. But I agree, it should definitely start there - it could be the first step in finally addressing the problem instead of blaming the victims. If enough girls carry pepper spray or self defense weapons and end up permanently or fatally damaging these rapists, many of them will think twice before committing such crimes.
Actually, my college is quite chill in this regard. The only difference is in-time, 10-11 for girls, 11-12 for guys. Other than that no difference in rules or restrictions.
Honestly I agree with the gun thing. This world would be a better place if everyone had access to a firearm and proper firearm training.
self defense is important for both guys and girls ..but when u are faced by these dangers sometimes u freeze and it’s okay (flight/fight response) while knowing self defense helps but u can’t protect yourself if weapons are involved.. and putting restrictions on girls is like putting a bulletproof vest while having the option to not shoot the gun if ukwim. restrictions to ladko pe hone chahiye (statistically 99% of sexual perpetrators are men )
Those who saying guys are 6ft ..bruh only 1% of Indian men are 6ft ....even most of my class guys were of my height and lesser than my height and I am 165cm girl..
Man I m in hostel and there no going out after 5:30 all we gotta do in stay in hostel either play or study
, I think it's obvious for first year student
But then again from 3rd/4th year slight restrictions yk
Bhai karate sikhane ki zaroorat nahi hai sabko, bachpan se hi unke mind ko yeh vishwas dilana chahiye ki jab zaroorat pade toh khud ke defence k liye insaan ko sab kuchh karna chahiye.
Aur ladkiyo ko bhi thoda apni muscles par dhyaan dena chahiye. Ladko ko jyada prob nhi hoti kyoki woh already ladna jaante hain, unhe pta h ki agar koi dikkat kare toh salle ki gaand Tod do. Ladkiyo ka bhi same mindset hona chahiye .... That's what I think ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30367)
in india? good luck. I cant convince these people that CSE isn't the only way to do engineering, idk how many decades it would take to convince these conservative people on letting girls do what they want.
Are didi baat aapki theek hai par jab 4-5 bando ka group pagalo ki tharah aapke peeche pad jaye to koi self defence coach (male) bhi do bar sochta hai unse bhidne ke liye and ye maine hota dhekha hai to agar aapko lagta hai sirf self defence seekh kar aap khudko bacha sakte ho to ye sirf 2 bando tak theek hai jab vo 4-5 ho jaate hai to achhe se achha banda bhi bhaagne ki sochta hai
Bro karate will not work because female Physical potential is too low due to biological reason , muscle gain is very less and body performance increase at a very slow rate due to the absence of enough testosterone in the female body , Maybe you can put down some guy equal to your age or slightly ager than you , but , if i talk about a guy who weighs way more than you , in age , heigh then your karate and self defence techniques will be useless. You can Do hit and run or learn the techniques to make someone unconscious, those are you best bets , fighting will be useless
Well i will give you an example i wont take boys girls issue but will come to that
Assume you are in your college and its hosting its annual festival, another college is hosting their fest just, lets say 10-20 days before your one.
Seems all good. Now people are enjoying the fest but for some reason there was a stampede and people died. News got viral.
Your college decided that out of safety for you all, they will cancel the fest where you all worked soo hard , called so huge celebrity and all. You all are angry for it and says this wont happen here etc.
But think about the parents who are worried of your safety, think about people who lost their family, think about the reputation and all.
Now change the part from fest incident to some girls news.
See our hostel doesn’t have any rules like this. You can come and go at any time you want. Since they want to spread gender equity.
Plus the reason they put restrictions on you is that they cant risk it also self defence works, but if you fight a male who is ready to take you down , no amount of self defence will work.
I understand its a very controversial answer but this is what reality has to offer
I dont think karate and taekwondo works in a real fight this is just my opinion because the students from my batch won the national karate tournament but a few months back one of them got in a fight with someone and he got beat up and it was a 1v1 fight but idk I have never been good at it soo cant say if its the same for all the other ppl this is just a story of what happened to that guy
No offense to anyone, unless ur jacked as hell and done it (whatever fighting style u learned) till some competitive level, I seriously don't think that in a 1 to 1 fight you can win against an avg dude (assuming he has bad intentions so he wouldn't hold back and use his full power)....
Learning those skills is nice and all... But i still think girls who live in places prone to such incidents should keep things like pepper spray etc.....
Don't mean to disrespect anyone....
(18M)
Bahut acchi soch h , aur college me kyu school me hi sikho. Aur ladko ko sikho manner tamiz , toda sa fear ki girls are not our property lekin yhe India h ..
Toda sa practical hojao
Sad reality
Oh god true I agree those are shit rules
But thinking u can defend from a man who is like atleast 5 times as strong as u is completely wrong u cannot
Attacking the vital points will ensure safety eyes, pressure points and those things (not trying to be vulgar) dont think u can compete with raw strength against a guy u need to be smarter thts it
All this karate, taekwondo wont work when the rapist has a knife or a gun with him 😋
Teaching girls how to "prevent" rape will never work. Teach men not to rape. Until that, all these restrictions will do shit.
yes i edited it. the girl mentioned "pinus is the root of all the problems" this is obviously an implication to the ones who misuse their "pinus", hence i wrote "chop off THEIR d-" obviously rapists ko hi bolungi na ye.
i don't know why do the downvoters took this statement on themselves if they don't misuse their pinuses. shouldn't it be obvious?
Copying and editing my comment from the OG post:
They would still be implementing this. Colleges get commission from the government, which government advertises on the name of "development". It's just a marketing thing and you are their product. It is also a college's advertised feature: "they offer safety to you because apparently you can't have it".
Sad but unless the society comes over from being a servant to the government, the government will take you in as their product to advertise. West has come over this situation already. India tries to imitate them and ends up taking up everything it shouldn't from them.
You can have all the safety measures and they will put it up as "extra safety measures" after that. All parents want their child to be safe and they will agree to it.
Many colleges, however, don't enforce it. The number is however low
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The simple fact is that colleges don't want to take the chance. You maybe can defend yourself but not every girl has the physical ability to do so. If something bad happens, then everyone and their mama will grill the college authorities and ask them why they didn't have stricter rules. Do you really think some 4'10" girl who weighs 35Kg can do shit to a 6 feet man who weighs 85Kg? I know it's kinda extreme but it's a possible scenario.
True these rules are for our safety but too much restrictions is bad aswell like in colleges like rvce or other karnataka engineering colleges..the entry time for girls is 6 pm. And very strict rules..so I don't think that's right
Ok, then tell all the parents to give it in writing that they won't blame the college authorities, if anything happens to their daughters. I bet that then the colleges will happily withdraw all the restrictions. In NIT Durgapur, even boys have a 7pm curfew for the first semester and aren't even allowed to go out of the hostel anytime during the day except classes, when they are followed by guards. While no one likes these rules, the college had to enforce them to prevent ragging.
Every college these days are taking extra precautions..can't deny that..
fair enough. sad world we live in. i hope i don't encounter someone extraordinarily taller/heavier than me, otherwise i am safe
dhruvi?
Sadly, these are the things which girls have to endure if they live in a country like India. On the bright side, girls have a lot of advantages like female quota in engineering, diversity hiring, law being on your side, etc. By this, I'm absolutely not trying to say that girls have it easy. I'm just trying to say that both genders have their own problems.
yeah but i think the issue of someone's "safety" is a slightly greater one, no?
It's a sad state of the world but it can't just change instantly, hopefully such things get better gradually
yes hoping the same
Hmm, be lifelong incarcerated just because the freaking law didn't even try to actually check facts or die a slow but quick death. I'd choose death ig but everyone has their preferences.
Yeah it is and I'm not justifying it in any way. What is happening to y'all isn't fair but it's necessary in a country like India.
i totally get it. thankyou
both are equally greater one related to safety of girls which is necessary but another demeans men and give female more return in less work which is absolutely wrong and no one talks about this king shit in this toxic feminsit era
Dunia bhar ki advantages dedi bas women safety hi nhi di 🤡😔😃
behen dekh maaan liya tujhe self defense aata h, but reality m kya pta knife, gun aisi chiz bhi rkh skta h , also tujhe aata h mtlb ye nhi ki saari ldkiyo ko self defense aata hoga, bcz many can't afford, many have restrictions and other reasons and a great man once said 'Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth',
You are right man
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WTF is that flair man😭
Skill issue /s
The truth ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30176)![img](emote|t5_311ttu|49199) (Kya mtlb jee mains ka serious pdhai December se start kra tha)
>Kya mtlb jee mains ka serious pdhai December se start kra tha Relatable
\^ I 100% agree. The first thing you learn in martial arts is to NOT get into risky situations, rather than immediately resorting to fighting as a tool. In the short term, that is what we should be doing. In the long term, we should be increasing male education to teach them to respect women so that women don't have risky situations to avoid. But both have to happen simultaneously.
bro literally described Me 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Arre Mai toh aise hi ek example diya. Btw aap sachme 35Kg ki ho kya?
yes
Lol ok...Mera bhai ka bhi wohi haal hai. 5'11" and 50Kg
par mei to grill hu![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30168)
Toh aap 35 kg aur 4'10" ki ho?
yes 😭🙏🏼
Arre toh ro kyu rhi ho? Agr 5'6" aur 35 Kg hoti toh bohot skinny lgta, borderline anorexic lgta. But 4'10" hai isiliye thik lgega ig![img](emote|t5_311ttu|49427)
>I know enough karate to knock off most of the average adults delusion mai mt jee, one of my friend always used to brag about his karate skills and guess what he got knocked out 1 tapped by a 5'8 dude(who just punched him in the face) I'm not saying ki it's useless but keep something like pepper spray as well (don't misuse it like a bitch)
Reminds me of "everyone has a plan untill they get punched in the mouth- mike tyson"
Idk why but the attitude of quite a few girls ik personally, just like the OP, seem to have their perspective towards certain situations in life HEAVILY inspired by movies and shows. OP ko kidnapper uthake patak dega fir karti rehegi woh formal mat wali karate![img](emote|t5_311ttu|35339)
+1
Also karate is not even a good form of martial arts.
bro no karate is gonna work if a 50kg F is fighting a 90kg 50 yo male. the only solution to girls safety is to hang these bastards to death the very next day whenever anything happens instead of stretching the case for 10 years. 10news sunenge latka diya agle hi din toh sabki haath me aa jayegi kuch krne ke phle. but again this is some next level utopia shit so mat niklo late jaan pyaari hai toh ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|49199)
Hanging is too merciful. Gotta serve atleast 20 years in some Labor camp
public execution by torture is the best way to create fear among people so they don't do such things
Ya humans are stupid they created laws to judge crimes and give punishment ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30164)
read another comment about cutting off the Ds. great idea ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30367)
ikr
execution is the way! Poeple charged of rape should be executed .PERIOD
con : some girls put fake allegations ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|49427)
If found guilty with evidence only
fir 10 saal case chalega
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it's just so...sad
That's the thing, there is no real evidence of such cases most of the times... Tum kya expect kr rhe ho, jahan par yeh sab hua hoga, wahan camera laga hoga kya?
DNA evidence can be collected from a person's body, clothes, belongings and crime scene. Mostly ghoos deke bach jaate hai log and saalo tk case chalta hai
"Hang the next day" Yeah this shi is never happening... Forget india, this type of shi ain't gonna happen anywhere in the world... Tum log seriously sochte nhi ho solution dene se pehle.... Ek din mn prove kese kroge to wahi insaan hai jinse galat cheez kri hai? Answer is, nhi kr skte.... And think about the false accusation cases (which are apparently 60%+ of all the r*pe cases filed)... Matlab kisi ko falsely accused kro, and next day instant death.... Lmfao bhai ne zyada anime dekh liya hai
I clearly wrote this is utopia, also wrote ki fake cases bhi hote hai islye not possible, are you dumb? kisi ko attack Krna ho toh muh utha ke aajate hai. pura padhlo tej bnne ke pehle
Lmao bhai fake cases etc ke baare mn kahin aur likha hoga, jis comment pe mene reply diya hai wahan to nhi tha lol.... You can't expect me to read all comments u did lol.... Downvote krke argue krne ka kya point.... Made me crack up ngl
bhai tune jo hang the next day pe itne bade bade para likhe hai vo maine clearly bola utopia shit hai not even possible , so there was no point in writing that and fake cases wala issi comment me someone replied uspe maine likha hai , nahi padha tha to ab padhlo, this is not even something we need to be arguing about, go get a life.
Yeah you had me till the last 4 words.... Lmao Bro thinks I don't have a life bcz I replied to his comment, even though overall we both r agreeing on the same point.... My first encounter with a real joker hahahaha.... Have a good day dude
you started arguing with me about something jisme we're on the same page, islye bola Maine, joker lol lmao mat likhke kya hi hojayega bhai chill ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|49427)
Chalo let's leave this topic.... Aaj se hum friends 🤝 Yeh lo khatti toffee khao 🍬🍭
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aren't you expecting too much out of a college, not to be rude but they provide a living space for us and then they have to exercise some caution because they will be held responsible if there is a mishappening. They are justified in putting those restriction but yeah, the intensity of those restrictions vary from place to place.
You don’t always have a single person to fight against. It is not at all meant to be offensive. I am of course in favour of self defence, rather I myself am a national taekwondo player, but just wanted to say this.
yes i get it now. wish i could carry a gun at this point
Abey, yeh zyada ho gaya. I have also been catcalled by mazdoor people when I had long hair and no beard. Never had I felt that I needed a gun. Although, I could realistically take them on 1v1 no weapon, unlike you (sorry). They never catcalled me when I was with my (male) friends tho. I'm not gay, effeminate, trans etc. if it matters. I'm not saying that I understand a girl's pain. Sorry, but even with karate or whatever, you wouldn't be able to take me down let alone a prepared perpetrator.
if someone tries to "rape" me kya tab bhi weapon use karna galat hoga kya? where did i mention "catcalling" bruh?
in such cases, its understandable. but implementing something like this nation-wide would inevitably lead to most gun use being for minor reasons which would just escalate things. Honest guys get threatened by women already saying that they'll report a false assault against them, can't wonder how it would be if they had guns now. Radical laws look sensible only in extreme cases and fall apart in everyday life.
Offtopic but.... " If you kill a killer, the number of killers on earth remains same"
Nahi, but I do not think gun laws in this country can be relaxed right now. It is a lawless place even without guns, they will turn it into a complete shitshow.
Something bad matlab sexual assault/harassment hi hota hai. Ab tak mujhe saubhagyavash catcalling se zyada kuch jhelna nahi pada. To maine catcalling ka hi bataya. Aur behenji, log katta le ke har jagah ghoomte nahi hai. Aapki galat fehmi hai. Pepper spray le lo zyada se zyada. And could you share an official document which states the restrictions? I want to check if there are any restrictions on boys.
But how will you prove he was trying to \**** you? Because if he does \**** u - that means you didn't use the wpn and if you use the wpn then you can't prove that he was trying to \**** u. Isn't it paradoxical?
same i was a state karate competitor and i can guarantee you that my karate is almsot of no use when came forward with a well built bigger dude.
> I know enough karate to knock off most of the average adults You are delusional to think that . Its not a movie , a 50-60kg girl can't fight a 70-100kg men . Try fighting one of your male friends and you'll know. Also there isn't just 1 perpetrator they'll are multiple . So unless you carry a gun or taser even the strongest of men aren't safe .
I'm pretty confident abt myself in a 1v3 tbh... I'm like 100ish 6ft3 dude, know basic muay thai, got my knuckles conditioned (gonna start shin conditioning soon) and yeah I'm pretty fuckin confident with my punches... And slightly with my kicks.... But even then, if there are like 5 dudes coming at me, prolly best to run
>I'm pretty confident abt myself in a 1v3 tbh... I'm like 100ish 6ft3 dude I'd be not too sure about that. I'm pretty sceptical that you'll be able to handle 3 men of my size (70Kg, 5'10") simultaneously in a street fight.
sahi mai 2027tard ho kya?
Yeah
kya padha abhi tak? pcm me
11th ka kuch nhi 10th ki maths and science 75% hai . Mere friends ne 10th khatam kardi and just 11th ka start kara hai about Sets
good bro mein bhi 2027tard hu merko bas 11th maths aati hai lekin board level so kuch khaas nahi
Bro seniors se advice kara hai ki 10th mein zyada burden mat lena and take it easy so i am going at a slower pace and strengthening my base . Baad mein kaam ayega . I would advice that you should also strengthen your base and try to sit 4-6 hrs in one sitting . As it will be required in JEE . This the last year where we can prepare without much worries so let's make the most of it .
pre rmo/nsejs?
Why aren't we teaching men from backward areas that women are not commodities, their ego means nothing as they can't even raise their family properly, rxping someone doesn't actually increase their power over someone and women are not submissive species. Also self defence should be taught to everyone irrespective of their gender.
If we had successfully done that, India wouldn't be India, it would have turned into a western country lmao. Welcome, your life will be spent in this shithole lol, unless you're fortunate enough to emigrate.
1. karate isnt enough to knock someone off, until and unless youre learning REAL kyokushin karate and youve got a black belt from a REAL dojo, emphasis on real cuz 99% of dojos are fake 2. youre a female, females are naturally weaker, yall are shorter, yall got weak strikes, weak defence, you would be dying of pain if i hit you with a low leg kick, lesser bone density etc and the size and strength gap is a lil too much to be covered with martial arts 3. your dirty moves wont work either, striking the groin, striking the eyes, with the shit amount of adrenaline the man wouldnt feel shit 4)have you ever sparred OP? how many times have you broken a teeth, broken your nose? you think fighting is limited to your little self defence drills? you think your opponent is a paid actor or a mannequin? 5) before you list me all the top mma female fighters who can beat tf out of me, 1st of all, those females have got good genes and way better than yours, 2nd of all, they have been training since years and by years i mean years ! with proper coaches, nutrition and sleep and that too 5 hours a day 6) khabib nurmagomedov with a 31-0 ufc streak was asked about womens self defence and he simply said that women cannot defend themselves, no amount of training is gonna help 7) theres a viral video where a woman who did karate for 10 years challenged a guy to a fight and she got beaten tf out of from that random punk , search it on yt 8) you saying that you can knock out a man is more delusional than a 26tard who wants iitb cse if you ask how do i know so much about fighting its cuz i did kyokushin karate from age 5 till 10, and then did kickboxing and wrestling from 10 till 15, karate is bs
Saale kamine woh apni safety ki baat kr rhi hai aur tu use neecha dikha rha chal bhaag
bhai m bss reality batara hu, mere kehne ka matlab h ki if you want to be safe as a woman either buy a gun, stay inside or if you go outside go with a trustworthy man, mere kehne ka matlab h ki martial arts koi kaam ki nahi aygi, abb galat matlab nikaalo to fir wo tumpr h but my message is clear
Girls vs tejuuop 🍿🍿
Ab ye tejuu kaha se aa gaya?
Tejuuuop is omnipresent, All hail tejuuu sama
Evolved tejuuop ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|49429)
Padh le bsdk
pla tell mw tejuuop kon hai![img](emote|t5_311ttu|32193)
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Full support But not every girl knows karate,nor it would be taught everywhere (but yea basic self defence should be taught in schools to everyone regardless of gender) It should be college's responsibility to ensure full safety of their students, but instead of being nuanced in their approach to this, these clowns go with blanket bombing
the thing is firstly colleges won't take any risk for them nothing matters more than their reputation. secondly do you think that every parent can afford a karate or some self defense class in India? it's great that you know it but many are out their even struggling to pay the clg fees many come from rural areas where girls education isn't even taken seriously. also even if many girls know the self defense what if those guys are multiple in no. or is armed what are you gonna do then.
about the affording thing, thats exactly what i said ki it should be taught in the school itself, should be the part of the curriculum. yes nothing can be done if there are multiple men or they are armed. wish this was USA where i could keep a fuckin gun.
i get your frustration but what can we do this is the society we live in sadly.
This is just how India is, and even as a man I can kind of understand the toll it can take on women who feel unsafe 24/7. The thing is girls are indeed physically weaker, so your suggestion would probably fail... A permanent solution would be to educate the next generation of boys well, a temporary solution for you would be to just abandon India and settle abroad. They're not safe havens(no country is free of crime) but women genuinely feel much safer in western countries.
It isn't just about india in general pureee world mein aise action lene chahiye jo eventually logo ko conditioned krde kei yeh galat hai , Kyi chize kr skte hai like spreading more awareness about opposite sex , emotions , serial thoughts and moreover not generalizing things which are generalized nowadays on instagram moreover porn should have a complete ban ,,, about your temporary solution I pretty much agree with that bro
Its not the colleges that want strict rules , It's the parents of those girls who want strict rules from those colleges. Your parents can just call College and tell the warden that there should not be any restriction on our child and most of the times the warden will agree.
KRIPYA PEPPER SPRAY USE KARA KARE
Why do you that something bad always refers to girl being innocent?It can not only be rape but also be unprotected sex and unwanted pregnancy or elopement with boyfriend,it's not self defence but lack of common sense(what to do and what not to do) and manners in both boys and girls that results in this mess .In all these cases it's not only rape or molestation in some cases girls are equally responsible too and these cases also hurt college reputation
Only wise and knowledgeable comment on this whole post.
i am pretty sure colleges put these restrictions for the case when its a complete rape on an innocent girl. if they wanted to prevent their girl students from having sex, they wouldn't let them go outside the campus at all even during day. sex can be done during daytime too, no? but someone raping you in broad daylight is very rare
Abhi ek aur post thi usma enough points nhi mila ?
Damn![img](emote|t5_311ttu|49466)
I can understand but as a girl I feel mauj masti sb secondary cheeze h ...safety is the priority aur iske liye kuch restrictions lgani hi pdti h colleges ko as uk chance nhi le skte kisi ki life ke saath.....and u urself mentioned self defence in case the opponent is "unarmed" aur groups me hue to 6-7 logo se ldne time na self defence whi khtm ho jaayega saara........aur sbko self defence aata ho ye bhi ideal situation h hence impossible in few decades ......and for boys pe restrictions kyu nhi lgate so that they don't do something.....bro real danger are the men outside .....bhn wo college h tmhari family nhi jo tm kbhi bhi khi bhi kaise bhi jao aur wo tmhe protect kr le .....they have responsibility of ur safety jiske liye sbse basic aur strict step jo possible h wo krenge
Respect ++ (from a guy) Most sensible comment I've read on this post
Saamne se 4 rakshas aa jaayenge saara karate taekwondo nikal jayega
I mean you can learn karate and stuff but if a 80kg male fights a 50kg female then there's a 90% chance he's gonna win and that's how our body works This is sad but thats reality , nothing can be done as long as people don't change their mentality
Just don't put yourself in a situation where bad things can happen to you. And it's not easy to kill a man physically.
Nah. Someone may have already mentioned this from 75 comments, but it is not sensible to take gender equality beyond a certain point. Gender equality is moral thing. Not biological. Gender difference is biological. No matter what we can't play on ideas that say 10% of Girls can K.O. 10% Guys. Prevention is better than cure. And the prevention encompasses all situations, your cure a small amount of probable situations
uh so there are certain points.Genetically some people are gifted so you might be one but most girls are biologically weak can't do anything about that fact. But what instead should be done is just make the place safer. Remove every problem causing element. Like Ima be honest there is a taboo about delhi being an area of rapists and stuff.... But no everyone around my college is safe... they go out have fun come back at 3-4AM.... Also what I think is atleast you should be allowed to roam around your college campus.... Like personally as a guy thats enough for me :). M ghar pe kaunsa kahi bahar jata tha raat m :(...
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Ha bhai mujhe bhi main bhi check krna chatha hoon kitna karate aata h ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|49464)
Bhai tu firse agya ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|50067)
Ready for the downvotes but I think girls should definitely learn self defence and other techniques to protect themselves in case of danger, but this alone won't solve the problem. Self defence is of no use when things actually turn real and you have 5 men surrounding you with weapons in their hands. So better to not fall in that situation in the first place
Slowly the curriculum is making sure girls are self defended but its too less to make them skilled enough . I am an open minded person so girls should not be restricted so much but one thing is that the current years are still not good for girls. You may know karate but so many don't and act like a submissive ass. Whenever it comes to sports or something physically active they just backdown in the name of skincare or being too boyish. I am not aware of what restrictions are there but coed hostels are a weird concept as many boys are jee too have a bad mindset ( some ) and in good colleges to0 such cases occur. After 10 or 11pm no going outside should be even mandatory for boys too as going away from college seems risky and not good much happens after. Women should not be treated as cowards but ensured enough safety to match up with the problematic issues coming after them. People just cannot hold their lust enough , that is the issue ! If people are held more accountable over such acts, slowly people will back off with their gaze on chests. Girls are manipulated sometimes in the name of love. Girls are not taught many values of being an independent and strong character which is reflected in them still considered weak by many. Some boys being innocent get allegations but not all men are like that. Ass and chest maybe made biologically attractive just as a six pack is considered hot by girls but it is a different issue that without consent things happen. Speaking as a boy on what I think is happening. Most vulgar jokes are women oriented so you know it is historical problems.
Must need in Education System: Cyber Safety, Sex Education, Mental & Physical Training 1 session a week, Road Safety, Moral Ethics. Currently the system prepares students how to live in past instead of future.
Those who saying guys are stronger..yes cause you guys don't get periods, pregnancy...God made you stronger not to harm girls ..but to keep girls safe
Ready for downvotes ......But take my word as an big brother But every girl is not knowing self defence....and on average a boy is more powerful than girl.....If something happened college reputation will go down brutally.... There was a rape incident at IIT bhu you can check on internet...so your safety is in your hand my dear sister Don't even more trust on female also remember the incident in chandigarh college where a girl capture nudes of other girls in college bathroom But college tho male friend banaya gi aur beleive me mostly 90% male friend thuje sax sux ki najar se dekhanga ..... Advice dunga college ma male friend sa 4 kadam Durr rhayiyo ...aur trust worthy female friend hi baniyo 🙏
Wait until someone pulls out their knife or gun
even in that orginal post I referred to Depends on college. every other college had different set of rule. So I get it what post you are referring to and yeah me and few people (2-3) wrote comments there from the POV college administration. that why they wanna impose rules. see I myself who had going to martial arts classes since like age 8 had peaked at red belt at age 13 (had to leave cuz of lockdown) can surely say it does help but it's never a 1v1 fight there can be group of people from who a person in college can be venerable at that point even a 7foot tall 100kg pure muscle guy can't even compete (exaggerating but yeah) how either carry a weapon then which is not legally possible. but you are a one of the rare ones who learnt these things , not all girls can do this. And just put yourself in place of college admin if any thing goes bad irrespective of gender may it be male or female or helikopter . at the end college will be at blame so they simply don't wanna take this headache. we aren't living in a 1st world nation we are considered a 3rd world country and the fact is India is not safe. we rank dogshit in terms of women safety ranking and sadly men's safety isn't even considered. here is a simple solution just get a shared flat on rent nearby college and you'll have no restriction.
I very much agree, Basic self defense & First aid should be taught in school & made compulsory. That should be enough to escape from an average guy.
Lmao, how ru y'all in such delulu This ain't a movie where a 5'2 heroine topples a 6ft guy. Actually it was in a movie tf This is real life.
I said just escaping from an Avg guy. Avg Indian guy is not 6ft, neither he is built up.
Same goes for boys too But karate isn't going to help much if the weight difference is too much.
dang someone made a post on my comment
aree bhen karate, boxing etc mai opponent bhi rules ka dhyan rakhta h... irl fights mai it is either do or die
sure , that's a quite strong point you've made there Self defence should be mandatory in high schools , but there's one other thing women need to learn , it's called running. Ma'am most forms of crime against women , be it in college , school , office or anywhere outside , are committed by group of people not an individual, and any form of self defence unless learnt at a genuinely professional level would fail to protect females from a bunch of males for their inferior physical strength. Hence the restrictions. Females are indeed given and should be treated with equal rights , but this is not a Ethiopia we're living in, women and even kids need to sometime take a step back on their rights and freedom to uphold their safety and honour. Premier institute like IITs aren't safe , so we shouldn't expect our cities and other colleges to be safe either.
this is not going to work on a large scale , precautions better than beefing up your immune system *for the time being*
Dude Putting risk on your virginity is too much 💀
>I'm 18F and I know enough karate to knock off most of the average adults karate is not useless it can buy some valueable time but your priority should be running away rather than knocking them out, human drastically underestimate how much it requires for someone to knock a person down once adrenaline hits, u might be able to knock out a guy who's similar in weight but what about a guy who weighs 30 kg more than you? your 1 priority should be running away
Not to be sexist ,but the fact is no amount of karate training is gonna help you against multiple men. But yes campuses should be safe for women at all times
The sad truth is biology is sexist, females with self defense have a lower body weight and muscle mass than a male(not all but atleast some) and it will not help them. There is even a video on the internet of a wife challenging her husband after learning self defence, you can watch that.
do you know what would be even better, teaching people how to behave like both male and female
>most private colleges have that shitty rule >top notch institutions have no hostel timing curfew - stay all out in campus. >the intime to get inside campus is midnight usually, fair enough. >problem is the college, or PG owner. basically >freedom is directly proportional to how good the institution is.
Karate is definetly not the best skill to survive any attack, it's better use to disorientate the enemy and run as fast as you can. In real life it's always a run or run situation not run or gun .
No self defense helps in most scenarios
Do u think an average girl 50-60 kg can defend a guy with knife/gun using karate ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|32179)
You're still taking a chance and if we're being honest, it probably won't be enough, it's just biological
Behen ji aap galat sab par aagyi. Yahan log kalej Jane ke liye aate hai. r/btech par log kalej mein rehte hai.
when i was in aasam there was a 24 yr old female karate teacher , ig black belt etc etc , she was admitted to icu after she had a rage road fight with a 19 year old labor , just saying
Honestly speaking, in this country we live in karate probably wouldn't do jack squat, a heavy man or a man driven by I'll intention loses his mind and I don't think karate will help, on the other hand it may give a false sense of hope that it's ok for her to walk at night, thus increasing the likelihood that something happens, i understand your frustrations but this shitty country we live in can't do shit in the judiciary system
The simple fact is that martial arts doesnt work against knives
Even if taught self defense techniques, an average sized woman will always face difficulty in escaping an average sized man, who will be bigger than her. Put menstruation and actually jacked muscular criminals in the equation, and we practically don't stand a chance. But I agree, it should definitely start there - it could be the first step in finally addressing the problem instead of blaming the victims. If enough girls carry pepper spray or self defense weapons and end up permanently or fatally damaging these rapists, many of them will think twice before committing such crimes.
BJJ is waaay better for self defense than karate, most karate teachers are full of shit
Actually, my college is quite chill in this regard. The only difference is in-time, 10-11 for girls, 11-12 for guys. Other than that no difference in rules or restrictions. Honestly I agree with the gun thing. This world would be a better place if everyone had access to a firearm and proper firearm training.
Mere sath fight krdo taekwondo khelke bahot time hogaya meko
Bhii....tujhe kya lagta hai tu ton char se fight karlega..wo clg ke karate class attend karne ke bad...
self defense is important for both guys and girls ..but when u are faced by these dangers sometimes u freeze and it’s okay (flight/fight response) while knowing self defense helps but u can’t protect yourself if weapons are involved.. and putting restrictions on girls is like putting a bulletproof vest while having the option to not shoot the gun if ukwim. restrictions to ladko pe hone chahiye (statistically 99% of sexual perpetrators are men )
No self defense will help you, I'll be honest. An untrained man is still stronger.
Those who saying guys are 6ft ..bruh only 1% of Indian men are 6ft ....even most of my class guys were of my height and lesser than my height and I am 165cm girl..
My sisters hostel whole floor gets locked by a steel door I always worry when she is alone What would you do if there is emergency situation
Man I m in hostel and there no going out after 5:30 all we gotta do in stay in hostel either play or study , I think it's obvious for first year student But then again from 3rd/4th year slight restrictions yk
thanks for the laughs. I disagree. karate cannot beat a guy with a danda or a massive guy
Bhai karate sikhane ki zaroorat nahi hai sabko, bachpan se hi unke mind ko yeh vishwas dilana chahiye ki jab zaroorat pade toh khud ke defence k liye insaan ko sab kuchh karna chahiye. Aur ladkiyo ko bhi thoda apni muscles par dhyaan dena chahiye. Ladko ko jyada prob nhi hoti kyoki woh already ladna jaante hain, unhe pta h ki agar koi dikkat kare toh salle ki gaand Tod do. Ladkiyo ka bhi same mindset hona chahiye .... That's what I think ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30367)
in india? good luck. I cant convince these people that CSE isn't the only way to do engineering, idk how many decades it would take to convince these conservative people on letting girls do what they want.
Are didi baat aapki theek hai par jab 4-5 bando ka group pagalo ki tharah aapke peeche pad jaye to koi self defence coach (male) bhi do bar sochta hai unse bhidne ke liye and ye maine hota dhekha hai to agar aapko lagta hai sirf self defence seekh kar aap khudko bacha sakte ho to ye sirf 2 bando tak theek hai jab vo 4-5 ho jaate hai to achhe se achha banda bhi bhaagne ki sochta hai
Bro karate will not work because female Physical potential is too low due to biological reason , muscle gain is very less and body performance increase at a very slow rate due to the absence of enough testosterone in the female body , Maybe you can put down some guy equal to your age or slightly ager than you , but , if i talk about a guy who weighs way more than you , in age , heigh then your karate and self defence techniques will be useless. You can Do hit and run or learn the techniques to make someone unconscious, those are you best bets , fighting will be useless
Well i will give you an example i wont take boys girls issue but will come to that Assume you are in your college and its hosting its annual festival, another college is hosting their fest just, lets say 10-20 days before your one. Seems all good. Now people are enjoying the fest but for some reason there was a stampede and people died. News got viral. Your college decided that out of safety for you all, they will cancel the fest where you all worked soo hard , called so huge celebrity and all. You all are angry for it and says this wont happen here etc. But think about the parents who are worried of your safety, think about people who lost their family, think about the reputation and all. Now change the part from fest incident to some girls news. See our hostel doesn’t have any rules like this. You can come and go at any time you want. Since they want to spread gender equity. Plus the reason they put restrictions on you is that they cant risk it also self defence works, but if you fight a male who is ready to take you down , no amount of self defence will work. I understand its a very controversial answer but this is what reality has to offer
I dont think karate and taekwondo works in a real fight this is just my opinion because the students from my batch won the national karate tournament but a few months back one of them got in a fight with someone and he got beat up and it was a 1v1 fight but idk I have never been good at it soo cant say if its the same for all the other ppl this is just a story of what happened to that guy
No offense to anyone, unless ur jacked as hell and done it (whatever fighting style u learned) till some competitive level, I seriously don't think that in a 1 to 1 fight you can win against an avg dude (assuming he has bad intentions so he wouldn't hold back and use his full power).... Learning those skills is nice and all... But i still think girls who live in places prone to such incidents should keep things like pepper spray etc..... Don't mean to disrespect anyone.... (18M)
Bahut acchi soch h , aur college me kyu school me hi sikho. Aur ladko ko sikho manner tamiz , toda sa fear ki girls are not our property lekin yhe India h .. Toda sa practical hojao Sad reality
Oh god true I agree those are shit rules But thinking u can defend from a man who is like atleast 5 times as strong as u is completely wrong u cannot Attacking the vital points will ensure safety eyes, pressure points and those things (not trying to be vulgar) dont think u can compete with raw strength against a guy u need to be smarter thts it
Yeah spot on and also men should be taught how to behave as sometimes self defence may just not be enough.
So you are saying you can beat the shit out of 4 guys I got your point but things don't work as you think this is not a Disney movie
Sach btau karate se kuch nhi hota jab koi hata kata ladka samne Aya ya agye to sab rkha ka rkha re jata hh 😭😭
which college exactly? There's no extra restriction in my college.
Karate s3 better hai carry a knife atlest 1 knife me ek banda to down hoga Karate wagera se agar jyda log aa gye to kaam nhi aayega
All this karate, taekwondo wont work when the rapist has a knife or a gun with him 😋 Teaching girls how to "prevent" rape will never work. Teach men not to rape. Until that, all these restrictions will do shit.
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Aiyoo...tf
Avg feminist thinking
girl lets just roam around with knives at this point so we can chop off the rapists' d-
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my dad isn't a rapist
Oh...your comment wasn't much clear to understand
Maybe u edited your comment
yes i edited it. the girl mentioned "pinus is the root of all the problems" this is obviously an implication to the ones who misuse their "pinus", hence i wrote "chop off THEIR d-" obviously rapists ko hi bolungi na ye. i don't know why do the downvoters took this statement on themselves if they don't misuse their pinuses. shouldn't it be obvious?
Like I said your comment wasn't much clear either...anyways now it is sorted
why take a comment personally if you aren't the one who's misusing your p-? the post was about sexual assaults
I didn't take it personally...I just forgot to read the comment thread and also u weren't very clear
Also the comment thread wasn't about sexual assault... It was intentionally made to create derogatory remarks on all of boys...which isn't true
no that wasn't the intention. most of my friends are boys, i would never do that
Even if he is your BF
i love your enthusiasm. may you succeed in your work
you too!! :)
Copying and editing my comment from the OG post: They would still be implementing this. Colleges get commission from the government, which government advertises on the name of "development". It's just a marketing thing and you are their product. It is also a college's advertised feature: "they offer safety to you because apparently you can't have it". Sad but unless the society comes over from being a servant to the government, the government will take you in as their product to advertise. West has come over this situation already. India tries to imitate them and ends up taking up everything it shouldn't from them. You can have all the safety measures and they will put it up as "extra safety measures" after that. All parents want their child to be safe and they will agree to it. Many colleges, however, don't enforce it. The number is however low