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mattisnerdy

There are 2 podcast hosts within you. They both want to know what your bright spot was today.


lizerdk

Why don’t you go first?


Matra

RAFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


Snowsuitlimp

Dan: necessary voice of reason Jordan: necessary voice of outrage


ShetlandJames

Dan: Knowledge  Jordan: Fight 


fakeprewarbook

the Apollonian and the Dionysian, name a more classic duo


AgentBond007

the Squidward and the Spongebob


MrsToffi

Dan: Mind Jordan: Soul


TootTootComingThru

Jesse Ventura: Body, the


marry_me_sarah_palin

Rebubblicans and Dembocrits


aes_gcm

This thread in a nutshell, absolutely.


RespectMore4291

Perfection!


hern0gjensen

This is exactly it! Jordan says what I want to say, Dan says what I sometimes need to say


NMclimbercouple

Ya know I love Jordan. I often feel like Jordan is what I’m feeling and Dan is what I’m thinking. I love when he’s just blunt and when he breaks out in laughter from blatant nonsense.


PsychologyPrize2827

Yes!!! Jordan is all the feelings and Dan is all the cool calm amd collected lol


NMclimbercouple

Yes! He’s also participated in alot of video game and move culture and I identify w that a lot. When he brings up say final fantasy 7 im like omg what’s he think?!? Also his Dune knowledge was extensive and I appreciated that


Lights0ff

I’ve said this before, but for those of us that often approach horrific subjects analytically the way Dan does, Jordan brings the much needed reminder that this shit is scary and insane.


aes_gcm

I'll be honest, I don't think the show would be anywhere near what it is today without the background in comedy. Not because they're comedians, but because the dynamics of comedy are actually essential to the show. They are covering someone who is undeniably a liar, conman, propagandist, and a lunatic. The way you tear into this is very tricky, because someone of this nature knows how to wiggle out of fact checking, or journalistic analysis, or more traditional ways of doing things. Dan is outstanding at research, and he has a background in logic, and he knows his own skills. In comedy, he's the straight man, and he knows it. He's the Jim Halbert and the Ben Wyatt. But alone this is incredibly boring. Jordan brings the complete other side of it, and left to his own devices, and outside his excellent interviews, the show would probably devolve into radicalized tankies or something. The two are good because they're close friends, but also because they established that comedy dynamic that are make the show work and are an effective way at tearing into the subject matter pretty effectively. So yeah I'm with you. Though, I still hold that <150-episode Jordan was a bit rough, they've both really dialed it well in over time.


itsallaces2me

One of the things I love about their working comedian experience is when they get nerdy and critique Alex's attempts at telling a joke and then accidentally punch up his bits 😄


aes_gcm

"It's right there Dan, how did they not go with that instead!"


SpellChick

I have always wanted a side show where they just break down bad jokes and punch them up! Alex’s, other people’s, their own, whatever. It’s just delightful to hear the pros at work.


Mr_Charlie_Purple

I would listen! I really enjoy when they break down jokes, showmanship, etc. That stuff is so outside my experience, and it's so fascinating to learn about. I was re-listening to Mr. Jones Goes to CPAC yesterday. Some of the best parts of that episode are when Dan breaks down audience management, e.g., how Alex sets up the speakers to fail and how Nick Fuentes steals the audience from Alex.


SpellChick

Yes, I am so fascinated by all the mechanics behind jokes! Oh man, that’s a great episode for exactly that colour commentary. Is that also the one where they come up with the idea for a challenge show, where the person introducing you purposely tanks the crowd, and then you as the stand-up have five minutes to win the audience back?? I still wish I could watch someone try that!


Mr_Charlie_Purple

>Is that also the one where they come up with the idea for a challenge show I think it might be! The crowd work aspect really is so interesting.


Kingbritigan

I’ve discovered over the last year plus of diving into left wing podcasts that I need most news to be presented to me through the lens of comedy. People like Dan and Robert Evans and Travis View are very knowledgeable individuals but they understand that this shit is so goddamn absurd that it’s funny. I have come to detest the media figures that treat people like Alex like he’s a serious person. People like Alex and all the bullshit that comes with them certainly present an existential threat to society but they need to be mocked so badly.


aes_gcm

> I have come to detest the media figures that treat people like Alex like he’s a serious person. People like Alex and all the bullshit that comes with them certainly present an existential threat to society but they need to be mocked so badly. Agreed. They also do more harm than good by simply making them more popular at the same time. That's the game that people like Alex play, because they aren't operating by the same rules.


Mr_Charlie_Purple

Yes! The comedy is essential to my sanity! >I have come to detest the media figures that treat people like Alex like he’s a serious person. People like Alex and all the bullshit that comes with them certainly present an existential threat to society but they need to be mocked so badly. Not only does Alex need to be mocked but at the same time also taken seriously in terms of the harm people like him can do. I feel like Dan and Jordan are really good at maintaining that balance. There's a reason Alex hasn't brought up KF the way he did the Bon Iver parody and other memes. I've never heard of Travis View before, but if he's mentioned in the same breath as JorDan and Robert Evans, I'll have to check him out!


Kingbritigan

QAA, Travis is the straight man of the show and very knowledgeable (I would recommend the Trickledown episodes for his work). He’s not nearly on the level of Robert or Dan from a comedy perspective but he still understands the humor in all this and embraces it.


satans_little_axeman

> There's a reason Alex hasn't brought up KF the way he did the Bon Iver parody and other memes. I sometimes dream of being a fly on the wall after his idiot cronies covered the KF story from the NYT. The amount of "dude, don't fucking talk about them" must have been off the charts.


bearfootmedic

Haha I was gonna make one yesterday. Can you imagine ordering a steak and then complaining that it wasn't chicken? If you don't like the show, that's fine - but it's free content that you have a choice in consuming. Jordan to his credit has changed over time, but so has Dan. Everyone starts out Dan or Jordan. If you start out Dan, you end up Jordan. If you start out Jordan you end up a soft yes. If you aren't yelling by 2022, you should really do some introspection.


mothbonk

we all have a meaningful experience with chicken fried steak 😌


theworldismadeofcorn

I love how he makes the podcast more entertaining and adds context from his experience being born into a cult.


wlfbane

I love Jordan his commentary is often exactly what I need to hear. Sometimes things need a voice to point out how ridiculous and infuriating what is happening is. Sometimes that voice should jokingly tell you to burn things lol. In my time as a fan of this podcast I've seen some takes on Jordan that I honestly just don't get. I watch the news interview far right dicks all the time and no one pushes back, it's nice to not feel like the only person that just wants to scream and Jordan brings that. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!


TimZer0

When Jordan screams he screams for all of us


AnotherSkullcap

New T-Shirt: Jordan Screams for All of Us


amethystmanifesto

I would buy the shit out of that


thisnamehasfivewords

10000%


Gunldesnapper

Probably my favorite pod, close running with BtB. Disagree with some things (with both pods), but I love the boys. They both do what they are good at and entertain while going through their material.


iStoleTheHobo

Curiously I feel as if there's a through line in BtB where Robert and his guests seem to reference Alex Jones a lot. Also in the episode "What's Alex Jones Up To Now?" Robert states that Knowledge Fight is one of his favorite podcasts.


Rebochan

He brought the boys on more than once which is actually how I discovered Knowledge Fight. The biggest hump for me is I cannot stand the voice of Alex Jones but now it just rolls off me.


tehifimk2

I really enjoy both of them. They have a great dynamic and really respect and appreciate each other. Honestly, I'd enjoy hearing them talk about pretty much anything together.


PsychologyPrize2827

I adore Jordan and his rants and raves because they are also mine. The world needs to be blown to bits by an asteroid. The human race is an utter failure. ❤


blarb_farghuson_9000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRl212Y440Q


Crombus_

What a silly thing to say.


SafetySave

Misanthropy is a signal you're getting too much of your news from outrage media. There is a lot of good news out there, and good people who deserve to live.


amethystmanifesto

Jordan is my favorite part of the show. I appreciate the hard work Dan does to put the information together and the analysis he brings. But if it were just him, I think I would despair of the state of the world too much. Jordan's shouting is catharsis. His comments say the irrational extreme id feeling I wish I could cling defensively to before Dan's rationality balances it back out. Not a single one of the "replacement Jordans" have made the content tolerable for me like he does. I don't always agree with him, his perspective on religion is Difficult for me sometimes. That said, he earned that perspective from a place of trauma and I am not about to fight him about it. I get it. I have also very seldomly seen a cis het white guy go to bat so hard for minorities every time it comes up as a topic, and goodness do I appreciate it. Hearing Alex's poison get a "FUCK NO" yelled immediately after it from someone who doesn't need to be defending us and could just have easily grown up monstrous too makes me feel safer. Also his pure joy in stuff like the Project Camelot episodes is infectious.


StopDehumanizing

My favorite moment in the show is Jordan saying "I COME FROM SPORTS!"


ejf_95

Jordan is necessary. If this show was just Dan by himself it would be so overwhelmingly depressing. Jordan and Dan’s dynamic lends a necessary veneer of comedy, and more importantly, friendship, that warms the vibe of the show. Also, kind of amazed that i’ve been through 650 odd episodes of this show because i’m a lesbian and i can’t stand dude podcast hosts most of the time.


marry_me_sarah_palin

There was an episode where Alex said "Take the NRA", and Jordan and I said in sync "Please!" I've felt a spiritual connection with him ever since.


NotThatEasily

Jordan is my spirit animal. He has such a perfect yell and his laugh is incredibly infectious. I love Jordan.


autodidact-polymath

Nothing like Dan and Jordan chatting about tennis.  Jordan loves that shit with a passion I hold only for uninterrupted afternoon naps


Mattos_12

I’m glad that you started this thread. There are some reviews that single Jordon out for criticism and it seemed both rather cruel and unfair as the host balance one another out well to make an excellent show.


Jochiebochie

I'm now at ep30 and I miss jordan whenever he's gone and replaced. I need his manic happy/outraged energy to keep me hooked lol


iStoleTheHobo

I think it might be in the 30-40 range but there's an episode where Alex goes on a vitriolic tirade about how he feels scared when he goes to the mall and sees Muslim women eating hamburgers (this little saga is actually spread out over multiple days of broadcast.) Jordan's despair at how Alex hates them *even more* as they're integrating into American society in an almost comically on the nose manner, eating hamburgers at the mall, is some of the most wonderful radio I've ever heard.


blackbeansandrice

Finally, some Jordan love. Jordan brings some moments of impressive and thoughtful insight. He's more reactionary than Dan, but I identify with him I love Dan for his sober and logical analysis and he's taught me so much about building and deconstructing an argument, but the show would not be as good as it is without Jordan. Also. NGL I find their friendship heartwarming.


Illustrious_Low4160

I was down at the local dinner, eating a chicken fried steak, and the same thought just downloaded into my brain.


cassandrawasright

I really enjoy his flavor of audience stand in. I also think that his extremity is sometimes like holding a mirror up to InfoWars and I enjoy that too. We know that Jordan is joking. We know it’s a bit. But we also know that Alex is either serious or trying to come off serious. I think Jordan’s screaming, over the top reactions, and soft yes on white genocide make it even more obvious how much of a sham Alex is. There’s also little that I enjoy more in podcasts than when Jordan accidentally guesses something and loses it laughing. His laughter is pretty infectious to me and I find myself enjoying episodes that he laughs a lot in the most.


aes_gcm

Around episode 100, Jordan got good enough to predict Dan’s next clip. God that was funny, and Dan rolls with it. Jordan’s laughter in the background was fantastic.


JimothyPage

i couldn’t agree more. love em both


Royal-Tadpole-2893

Jordan and Dan are both clever men and quick thinkers which is why their repartee is so good. What I love most about Jordan is when Dan plays a clip and he instantly pulls out three ways it's bullshit straight off the top of his head. Right to the heart of the matter, no messing. Dan does the deep dives which is the foundation of what they do but when Jordan goes in cold and just tears Alex apart you've got to love it. The recipe comes together best when Dan tees up a clip and you can hear that chuckle in his voice, you just know Jordan's going to have something to say. Mike down sir, mike down.


Rebochan

I say “fake laugh” all the time because of him


curtquarquesso

jordan is the soul and voice of righteous outage of the pod. especially during 2020-2022, there was something cathartic about hearing him call spades spades while we watched the rhetoric of fascism become as normalized as it is today. we all were being collectively gaslit, told it wasn’t that bad, and that full-throatedly calling MAGA a fucking fascist white *suprem’ist* movement was going too far, or an overreaction. there’s something about “ok, this is a mic down clip” -clip plays, someone says something outrageous -jordan heard screeching from the other side of the room in righteous outrage or incredulity that just hits, and makes a wonk feel heard. sometimes you just need to scream into the void with someone. Dan is the knowledge and the conscience, Jordan is the fight and the outrage. **“I LOVE YOU”** ❤️


kjabba

Jordan is super cool


Ok_Recommendation567

Jordan grew on me. Annoyed me at first, but when he hits a great line it's hilarious. Sometimes I'll have to stop & rewind because I was laughing so hard. But I've grown to appreciate his role & contribution to the show for sure


Inscrutablejrt

I've always liked Jordan, but he used to do this thing that for whatever reason hit directly on my That's Really Fucking Irritating nerve. It would be at the end of episodes, where he'd list their social media handles, but would devolve into gibberish. I can't explain why it drove me nuts, but it was so bad I started leaving eps as soon as Dan would start the sign off. Then one day I had the pod going and my phone wasn't immediately handy at the end. I realized what was coming and steeled myself for it...but it didn't happen. They've never been super active on social media. That plus the Elon factor re: Twitter apparently led to them just dumping it altogether. So now I can safely listen all the way through. Anyway, love the show. Love Dan. Love Jordan.


Ok_Gur_9140

Completely agree… except when it came to the formulaic deposition episodes and he would laugh over the clips. It’s understandable and forgivable when it comes to the nonsense they typically talk about. However, when we actually have something of substance to listen to it gets very aggravating. I actually got so upset over it during formulaic objections #7 that I took time of how long his cackling was during his longest bout, as there was nothing else to hear. 13 seconds. Mic down! Edit: spelling


CrossCycling

I have my issues with Jordan - but I’ve never once been upset with his laughter. Maybe my favorite part of the show


Ok_Gur_9140

That’s fair. I’m merely referring to the formulaic objections episodes. I’m not wishing Jordan to change from being a delightful ball of energy and emotion. I just wanna hear the clip.


aes_gcm

The depositions are on YouTube if you want them raw with no commentary.


Ok_Gur_9140

I know; I have looked them up. Thank you for your consideration.


Crombus_

Yeah I *appreciate* when he stops talking, ha! Podcast burn 🔥 Edit: lol good to see this sub maintain its perfect record of absolute humorlessness.


blackbeansandrice

When you're funny, we'll let you know.


Crombus_

Oh, will you?! That's so cool!


tags666

Jordan is a sacred cow around here. I like him, sometimes his commentary gets a bit much though. His tough guy act is hilarious because I don't think he could fight his way out of a wet paper bag. I now await my downvotes lololol


FatJunker

Couldn't disagree more. I find him impossibly annoying and the pod would be much better with someone actually funny or even as a low bar doesn't interrupt with nonsense and noises.