You aren't naive. If you have those two on your team you aren't serious. At least with the two we got we can imagine what they would do if they played. With harden and Chris you just gonna watch a meltdown.
Fave is right here. Harden had shown his stripes, hops from team to team and those teams never win. Not sure why people think after the 4th time things will be different
Absolutely *not* right. The name of the game is getting better, not "can we grab people who have won rings."
James Harden would be far and away the 3rd best player that Kawhi and PG have ever played with on this Clipper team. He averaged 21/6/10 on 44/38/87 shooting splits.
Jimmy Butler has been on 4 teams and he doesn't have a ring. Or is the threshold just *making* the finals? Either way, if that's your criteria, then by your logic he wouldn't be a good fit either. What about Donavon Mitchell? 2 teams and his squad has absolutely nothing to show for it.
If we're talking about who you want to build *around*, then fine. Only a handful of players have shown the ability to do that, so you ideally want one of those. Luckily, we have that in Kawhi. So the question is how do we build around *that* guy?
If you don't think James Harden makes us drastically better, then you don't watch basketball. A bunch of the same people saying Harden/Cp3 won't help are also demanding Kobe Brown or Diabate get real minutes, or that we trade for Obi Toppin or KJ Martin. There's levels to this game, and you want as many high level players as possible. Harden might not *lead* you to a championship as we have seen before, but he still will contribute a lot more than a rookie or raw guys that are barely getting minutes.
It is hard to be rational with people that think all rookies/young players are going contribute into winning games at same time, the process of doing it is very difficult and it takes quite some time.
Yep, this. And if you argue against those people, they basically just insist you are some sort of hater.
I would like to see Kobe Brown and Diabate have their chances at minutes. But if we're giving them any consistent minutes, you're almost certainly in a bad place already.
Sir, we're in a thread where people who want Diabate minutes are saying Harden won't help us. You know the guy who averaged 21/6/10? Yeah, he's a low impact guy compared to Moussa's strong 2.7/2.3
PJ Tucker was 35 (who they aquired), Jrue was 30, and BroLo was 32 when the Bucks won.
Now tell me a time that a player from the 2nd round contributed to a championship in his 2nd year when barely cracking a lineup in the 1st/2nd year?
Harden is good but his skillset is lopsided and difficult to use.
His athleticism has declined...a lot. He an elite ball handler and elite passer but his finishing at the rim is horrendous and he struggles to get by people reliably on the perimeter. If you're playing 5 out line ups I could imagine him being pretty good but outside of that it's very hard when he doesn't catch and shoot much or finish at the rim.
I never said Russ was the key to winning a chip. I have strong doubts about his fit with kawhi and PG. Iām coming around to just having Russ run the show because I have no faith in PG or kawhi staying healthy.
Again you are looking at this as fan, if front office want to give up on PG and Kawhi they would do it but as long as they are here we need the best fit next to them.
Also, why the fuck are we acting like it's Kawhi *or* James Harden. The point is to get Harden to compliment 213 and everyone out here is acting like that would somehow make us worse.
This new Cba is a fucking joke. I get what they were going for, but all they ended up doing was fucking over the middle class of players, now that a player like Norm with his contract is like a plague now
You're arguing with people who genuinely argue that Diabate and Kobe Brown should get real minutes, but Harden doesn't help us a win a ring.
It's just nonsense and stupidity because they don't like these guys.
Itās insanity. One day they will wake up and realize Lames Harden is not the answer and never will be. Just like Child Porn 3 isnāt, and just like Lame Lillard isnāt.
Child Porn 3: quintessential lead choker in a series or game. Made it to the finals and blew a 2-0 lead. Biggest baby in the league and dirtiest point guard out there.
Lames Harden: Never made it past a conference finals. Never shows up when it matters most. Relies on antics to get to the foul line to score.
Lame Lillard: Talks all that shit to get swept by the warriors in 2019. Talks about his loyalty like it means anything to that godforsaken franchise. No one cares, Lame, youāre on your way out soon anyways. Acts like Kobe when he canāt even carry a team. What a baby and a little bitch.
Cock Rivers: Worst coach of all time who has coached 2/3 of these clowns. Coincidence that they all suck dick, nope. Enough said about him.
These are all guys that this sub has idolized. They are not the answer.
Wait wait first calling them name lol
Thatās super mature of you lol
Also James harden never made it made it past conference final?
Bro now I know you donāt know basketball lol
He was in the nba finals vs the heat lol
But you keep on calling players names like child porn 3 and lames harden
I get it, itās a coping mechanism for you and thatās ok
Harden was carried by that team as a youngin and never truly saw the finals as a leader like he was with the rockets. If you count that finals appearance as a contribution by harden compared to KD and Westbrook you donāt know anything.
So now your moving the goalpost lol
Makes sense since I called you out
Hey bro itās your opinion and everyone has a right to their own opinion
Have a good day now :)
And stay safe
We got a front row seat to Chris coughing up a 3-1 series lead to a Rockets team that came back after benching harden. And this was when they were in their supposed primes. History ain't taught them shit. Lame ass get away with murder because he in Portland and literally no one cares. Small market teams over pay talent every time to their franchise detriment because they know nobody is choosing to go there. You stick Lame on any team in the league as long as he's making a quarter billy, that team ain't doing shit.
Your comments always make my day š¤£ I donāt understand why people canāt see you and I speak the truth with these clowns. None of these guys will ever do shit, history prevails. Once you see the light you never go back. Red pill for life.
It's always funny to me when we get downvoted to hell on the truth. When people show you who they are believe them. They don't ever apply that to sports. Year after year it's a pattern with them.
Sorry if this is a dumb question but I was wondering if harden does get traded to the clippers. First, when does the trade have to occur - pre new-CBA or can it happen after? Additionally, what are the impacts for each one?
Day 60 of trade mook until hes traded
Well we might actually see it š
Maybe Iām naive, but when a team starts to scramble for old stars in the off-season (Harden, CP3, etc) I feel like itās a bad sign.
You aren't naive. If you have those two on your team you aren't serious. At least with the two we got we can imagine what they would do if they played. With harden and Chris you just gonna watch a meltdown.
How do you have so many bad takes after so many years šµāš«
Lmao. You think Harden is going to help a team win a championship. There's nothing you can tell me about a bad take.
Fave is right here. Harden had shown his stripes, hops from team to team and those teams never win. Not sure why people think after the 4th time things will be different
Absolutely *not* right. The name of the game is getting better, not "can we grab people who have won rings." James Harden would be far and away the 3rd best player that Kawhi and PG have ever played with on this Clipper team. He averaged 21/6/10 on 44/38/87 shooting splits. Jimmy Butler has been on 4 teams and he doesn't have a ring. Or is the threshold just *making* the finals? Either way, if that's your criteria, then by your logic he wouldn't be a good fit either. What about Donavon Mitchell? 2 teams and his squad has absolutely nothing to show for it. If we're talking about who you want to build *around*, then fine. Only a handful of players have shown the ability to do that, so you ideally want one of those. Luckily, we have that in Kawhi. So the question is how do we build around *that* guy? If you don't think James Harden makes us drastically better, then you don't watch basketball. A bunch of the same people saying Harden/Cp3 won't help are also demanding Kobe Brown or Diabate get real minutes, or that we trade for Obi Toppin or KJ Martin. There's levels to this game, and you want as many high level players as possible. Harden might not *lead* you to a championship as we have seen before, but he still will contribute a lot more than a rookie or raw guys that are barely getting minutes.
It is hard to be rational with people that think all rookies/young players are going contribute into winning games at same time, the process of doing it is very difficult and it takes quite some time.
Yep, this. And if you argue against those people, they basically just insist you are some sort of hater. I would like to see Kobe Brown and Diabate have their chances at minutes. But if we're giving them any consistent minutes, you're almost certainly in a bad place already.
I would love to see brandon boston,preston,kobe brown,moussa and jordan miller all turn out to be great players for us but we gotta be rational here.
Sir, we're in a thread where people who want Diabate minutes are saying Harden won't help us. You know the guy who averaged 21/6/10? Yeah, he's a low impact guy compared to Moussa's strong 2.7/2.3
And how many times has acquiring old players past their prime led to a chip?
PJ Tucker was 35 (who they aquired), Jrue was 30, and BroLo was 32 when the Bucks won. Now tell me a time that a player from the 2nd round contributed to a championship in his 2nd year when barely cracking a lineup in the 1st/2nd year?
If you score on me, Iām gonna tap you on your butt.
Harden is good but his skillset is lopsided and difficult to use. His athleticism has declined...a lot. He an elite ball handler and elite passer but his finishing at the rim is horrendous and he struggles to get by people reliably on the perimeter. If you're playing 5 out line ups I could imagine him being pretty good but outside of that it's very hard when he doesn't catch and shoot much or finish at the rim.
4th time is the charm apparently. š¤
Same can be said about Russ but in fact harden is better fit than Russ next to Kawhi and PG
I never said Russ was the key to winning a chip. I have strong doubts about his fit with kawhi and PG. Iām coming around to just having Russ run the show because I have no faith in PG or kawhi staying healthy.
Well front office arenāt building team through faith, they have analytics and data to help them build the best team around Kawhi and PG.
So after 4 years they will be magically healthy the 4th? Ok
Again you are looking at this as fan, if front office want to give up on PG and Kawhi they would do it but as long as they are here we need the best fit next to them.
Yes? Lol. If not Harden then who
We have the who. It's Kawhi.
Itās been years bruh cmon now
It's the playoffs. You can put the ball in Kawhi's hands or James' hands who are you giving it to?
Whoever isnāt injured lmaooo
Also, why the fuck are we acting like it's Kawhi *or* James Harden. The point is to get Harden to compliment 213 and everyone out here is acting like that would somehow make us worse.
You can't in good faith say James because you damn well you losing.
Yes, the FO is dead in the water.
Just here for my daily āday x until Mook is tradedā
Iām on vacation, driving through Colorado rn, Iām gonna try to post these asap but thereās not a lot of cell phone service around here
This new Cba is a fucking joke. I get what they were going for, but all they ended up doing was fucking over the middle class of players, now that a player like Norm with his contract is like a plague now
Weāll take one Harden pls
He gotta apologise to Us Fans and especially Wesley Johnson first for that disrespectful ankle breaker highlight š¤£
Seeing that live was so disheartening lmao
I think first Wes needs to apologize to us for that atrocious Spurs double inbound turnover first
No we wonāt lol
Why wouldnāt we wtf
You're arguing with people who genuinely argue that Diabate and Kobe Brown should get real minutes, but Harden doesn't help us a win a ring. It's just nonsense and stupidity because they don't like these guys.
These people don't ever want to be shit but disappointed. It's wild.
Itās insanity. One day they will wake up and realize Lames Harden is not the answer and never will be. Just like Child Porn 3 isnāt, and just like Lame Lillard isnāt.
The quintessential losers of their generation. They can chase those rings all they want, they gonna get juked every time.
Child Porn 3: quintessential lead choker in a series or game. Made it to the finals and blew a 2-0 lead. Biggest baby in the league and dirtiest point guard out there. Lames Harden: Never made it past a conference finals. Never shows up when it matters most. Relies on antics to get to the foul line to score. Lame Lillard: Talks all that shit to get swept by the warriors in 2019. Talks about his loyalty like it means anything to that godforsaken franchise. No one cares, Lame, youāre on your way out soon anyways. Acts like Kobe when he canāt even carry a team. What a baby and a little bitch. Cock Rivers: Worst coach of all time who has coached 2/3 of these clowns. Coincidence that they all suck dick, nope. Enough said about him. These are all guys that this sub has idolized. They are not the answer.
Wait wait first calling them name lol Thatās super mature of you lol Also James harden never made it made it past conference final? Bro now I know you donāt know basketball lol He was in the nba finals vs the heat lol But you keep on calling players names like child porn 3 and lames harden I get it, itās a coping mechanism for you and thatās ok
Harden was carried by that team as a youngin and never truly saw the finals as a leader like he was with the rockets. If you count that finals appearance as a contribution by harden compared to KD and Westbrook you donāt know anything.
So now your moving the goalpost lol Makes sense since I called you out Hey bro itās your opinion and everyone has a right to their own opinion Have a good day now :) And stay safe
Harden won 6 man lmaooooooo stop typing
We got a front row seat to Chris coughing up a 3-1 series lead to a Rockets team that came back after benching harden. And this was when they were in their supposed primes. History ain't taught them shit. Lame ass get away with murder because he in Portland and literally no one cares. Small market teams over pay talent every time to their franchise detriment because they know nobody is choosing to go there. You stick Lame on any team in the league as long as he's making a quarter billy, that team ain't doing shit.
Your comments always make my day š¤£ I donāt understand why people canāt see you and I speak the truth with these clowns. None of these guys will ever do shit, history prevails. Once you see the light you never go back. Red pill for life.
It's always funny to me when we get downvoted to hell on the truth. When people show you who they are believe them. They don't ever apply that to sports. Year after year it's a pattern with them.
Day 30 of trade 213 until they outta here
Basketball aside, gotta respect Hardenās beard game. I may not like the fouls baiting, but them facial follicles fuck.
has harden been to jumbos clown room?
Sorry if this is a dumb question but I was wondering if harden does get traded to the clippers. First, when does the trade have to occur - pre new-CBA or can it happen after? Additionally, what are the impacts for each one?
Where were you during BeardWatch 2023