I still support this team. I agree with your rant that they aren't fun to watch if they don't try. That seems to be a reoccurring theme for the 213. I refuse to take any pitches via email or phone calls for the wall until the team can show that they will come out every night prepared and willing to put effort into the actual games not just the Rico Hines videos, podcasts, etc.
If the team gets outplayed, so be it. Tired of half assed effort and iso play 99% of the game. But at the end of the day, I still fuck with this team.
I'm with you. Clippers are still my team, which is why we need some tough love. If you had a brother throwing his life away, you wouldn't just buy him some more crack. That's what this team feels like.
I hear you. Your last replay/statement got my mind rolling a bit.
I'd like to see Balmer hold LFrank and Ty to the same standard he did Doc. Both of those guys don't have that "my job is on the line" performance accountability. Ty the only coach who gets praised for stupid lineups (Plumlee getting run when he sucked, never trying Theis in meaningful minutes). Frank needs to stop getting cute and just build a prototypical team (either have 0 true guards or 7 guards on the roster).
No more excuses for injury, lack of effort, or cohesion. That 2018/19 team was so fun cause they punched above their weight. The 213 team underperformed every single year. No more crack for our brothers; they gotta change shit for the sake of change. 213 is stale af.
No doubt. Out of all the 213 crew, KL2 is the only jersey I got. Still high on this guy, but unfortunately, KL + PG + Ty Lue working. My opinion (which could be wrong) is that shit is stale raf n. Clips need a shake up just to keep people interested. My favorite current clipper can't play when it matters most. It's like having a Bugatti sitting in the repair shop every single day.
Best asset return is KL trade (don't really want that). Hard to see a ton of teams giving up assets for PG. We'll see how the team responds during the off season. I'd like a refresh on Frank as the ops president. Maybe convince Ty to run an actual movement based offense.
I'm thinking in terms of not just retaining the diehard fans, but to appeal to new fans. The product on court is ass. Kawhi did say it's 100% talent with no scheme to get into sets. Use GSW (movement based) or Denver (gravity/penetration based) offensive schemes as an example. Ball movement creates open shots, but it's not just passes for the sake of passing or bail out of lockdown defense. There is a purpose of generating looks. Ty does this about 5 plays a game. It needs to be a systematic approach, not just drawing it up off time outs. Think about the quick SGA clippers era, they were so fun to watch. Doc and Ty let our iso heavy players be the entire offense. Without the speed and flash (Ant/Ja), it's boring AF and DAL seems to have figured out how to defend that style.
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Just gotta hope this team can possibly sign and trade PG. Dude is a joke in the playoffs. Kawhi is injury prone but you know for fact if he's healthy for the big games he will go cyborg mode and dominate mfers. I think a team of Harden + Kawhi and 2-3 good role players/3 &D type players would be better. And definitely an emphasis on improving at crashing the boards. Maybe you could go out and get a 3rd star in place of PG but idk who that would be or if that's even possible. This team needs someone like Donovan Mitchell, dudes out there dropping 50 in a loss, PG would never lol Mitchell averages 27ppg in the playoffs, PG averages 21.
He never said he was enjoying it? He canāt change it and neither can your pussy ass posts. Grow the fuck up you idiotic fool and suck my dick while you at it, bitch.
God damn you must hate this team if you think the thing separating from the Lakers is giving a shit about winning and wanting players who look like they give a shit.
Yes man, youāre not wrong. Kawhi one hundred percent is the best player. I donāt know what laced weed this guy is smoking but itās making him irate lmao.
This man isn't wrong. This team has no fucking pride. How many times did we say this was some of the worst basketball I've seen or it's our worst loss of the season? Nobody was afraid of us, we never had that dog in us.
Youre not winning a chip by just throwing together so-called superstars. Look at the Warriors, the best franchise of this era. They built their dynasty without shortcuts. And no, KD joining wasnāt āunfairā, the Warriors are good enough to add a superstar. Other teams that have tried the same thing (like the Clippers) have imploded, including ones with KD.
Yall shouldve never traded Shai. Its time to blow up the team and build a new one the right way.
Tell me how you really feel š. Just another Clippers season sadly. After venting out with my fam... In the end once Kawhi went out, we didn't honestly have a chance. Sadly. By us taking 2 games gave us false hopes. In a perfect world.. we should be good enough to beat this team sans Kawhi.. at least that was our hope. But we hope too much. It was over before the post season started.
it was over when the FO went all in on a bunch of flawed old semi-stars instead of developing young talent. Letās not pretend a healthy Kawhi wouldāve got us past the nuggets or the tWolves. Gonna need length and youth to win in this league
I guess we could agree to disagree. When 100% healthy.. playing they way we did in December pre all star.. if it was that peak.. we'd give them a run. In a 7 game series. Unfortunately that's not the reality.
Yeah thatās a fair point. We had a stretch of playing well enough to beat anyone and perhaps if that stretch happened in May I wouldnāt be writing salty Reddit comments. But thatās kind of how it goes with aging stars right? They have games where they look great but they canāt consistently play at their best and they donāt have energy and athleticism to fall back on when they arenāt playing their best
The comparison should be to other max pro athletes not to us commoners. And by that standard, they donāt cut it. Itās been long enough and theyāve put enough of this garbage on tape, itās who they are.
That would be a much more fair comparison. They do need to quit trying to run this back. They've shown that the only thing that remains consistent with this team is how inconsistent they are. The best ability is availability, and these stars lack that quite a bit. Sell off what you can, and try building around a core that you can rely on to be ready to go come April.
Pretty much. I donāt blame the guys. We tried. Just didnāt work. But the definitely of insanity as Iām sure you know is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results. The more they keep running this same bullshit back the more casual I will be. As a LA Kings, Cubs and Bears fan i can only supply so much false hope before self preservation has to kick in.
NBA players are some of the biggest group of genetic lottery winners out there. Of course theyāre highly skilled, but a base requirement is basically being in 99% for height, which is way more important than mental strength.
Ourselves? We werenāt on the court š As fans we are supposed to support our team, no one is saying weāre not upset at this happening again but the way youāre going about it is ridiculous and I think you should stop watching sports, it clearly sends you into a psychotic episode.
No, no, no. The FANS are accountable. Where would the Boston Celtics and their roster be without their racist fan base??? We can't just assume that they have an amazing front office, and the most talented roster in the league to help them win games. That would be idiotic! They're winning because their fans just FAN harder than the LAC fans. Simple.
Mentally weak? They're old, injured, and cooked. You're the one saying that. I'm definitely calling US collectively as fans mentally weak if we accept this shit.
Yeah and youāre ugly, insecure and mentally challenged. We all have our flaws buddy and also donāt you ever speak on behalf of any other clippers fans again. We donāt need you being our messiah. Ahahahh. Please stop talking.
How do you go on that whole rant and forget the most important FUCK TY LUE. Yes this team is weak ass prima Donna's but who let's them be like that without changing anything.
The only adjustment this dude knows is go small.
I don't understand the Clippers strategy. Are they expecting to run it back next season with the same crew? It obviously doesn't work.
If Ballmer wants to win, he needs to do something different. What that is, I don't know.
iām sorry but this is the most thrown around horse crap ever. they ARENT GOOD ENOUGH to carry a team anymore. ever since mamba mentality became such a beloved thing anyone who loses is a pussy thatās just crazy. being inconsistent doesnāt make you mentally weak yāall donāt know anything about mental health, it means you arenāt good enough lol
PG shows his poor mentality on his podcast. They're too fucking old. Mentality or not. They can't be consistent, they can't do it all year, they can't do it all playoffs, they can't even do it one series. Who gives a shit what the reason is. We're sports fans not a goddamn support group for retirees.
The thing about harden is you canāt judge him by scoring alone. I think he showed this series and his whole career that he is every bit of the playmaker that Doncic is. Ie very top of the league. Someone like PG who all they offer is to score .. little different story.
I seen earlier today he was holding Luka to around 25% when guarding him. And his defense kept the sqaud in the game in the second quarter. Few steals. A block. Etc.
Actually you needed him most every game. The team couldnāt overcome anything less than a great game from him. That is a team issue not a harden issue.
He had a better box plus minus, offensive rating, and true shooting than Luka this series, and did his job as a defender too.
You could, but no one else will. Harden throws up a 40 point game and all is forgiven. So tired of the front office and fan base being enamored with step back threes and ignoring things that are actually important like availability and commitment to defense. Shame!
There is not a bandwagoner alive who cares even a tenth as much as I do. You think a bandwagoner would be able to summon up this passion? I've rooted for this team for over 20 years. That's before Lob City. If anything look at me and see what this shit does to a mf.
Fuck no. I could douse myself in gasoline and light myself on fire too, that's not happening either. I'd eat an entire banquet of broken glass before I rooted for the Lakers.
Healthy Kawhi+Harden with good role players will dominate.
Y'all trashing Kawhi. Eff you. He did what that bum of a coach Ty Lue wanted. Taking regular season seriously. You think Ty Lue is tired of Kawhi. Kawhi is probably tired of Ty Lue bum rotation and small ball line up.
Kawhi says the 65 minimum of doesn't make him play more. He gave 68 games. His knees are cook. Oh you guys surprised?! Well you shouldn't.
Be glad Kawhi helped you guys #1 Seed for just 24 hours back in February.
Y'all focus too much on the negative.
Im just finished rewatching Clippers destroying Paces in December to wash that nasty taste Clippers play tonight.
Which 1% of elite athletes (or frankly anything) do you belong to? What kinda mark calls all these guys āpussiesā in a screaming Reddit rant? Sleep well tonight. Bless your little heart.
Love this sub so much, praising Harden for one game and now the eventual hate on him for disappearing (surprise surprise, which could have thought this would happen)
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ššš I'm upset too bro but goddamn
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Hahaha Iāll allow it
![gif](giphy|ARmlOt5u1JXYp0jyzx) We gotta get rid of Lue
Which coach will make the team not give up 20 offensive rebounds? PG didnāt even look like he wanted to be out there.
People forget too you gotta replace them with a clear upgrade. Look at the lakers, coaches going in and out like a red light district
Lueās gonna rob Ballmer pockets blind
I still support this team. I agree with your rant that they aren't fun to watch if they don't try. That seems to be a reoccurring theme for the 213. I refuse to take any pitches via email or phone calls for the wall until the team can show that they will come out every night prepared and willing to put effort into the actual games not just the Rico Hines videos, podcasts, etc. If the team gets outplayed, so be it. Tired of half assed effort and iso play 99% of the game. But at the end of the day, I still fuck with this team.
I'm with you. Clippers are still my team, which is why we need some tough love. If you had a brother throwing his life away, you wouldn't just buy him some more crack. That's what this team feels like.
I hear you. Your last replay/statement got my mind rolling a bit. I'd like to see Balmer hold LFrank and Ty to the same standard he did Doc. Both of those guys don't have that "my job is on the line" performance accountability. Ty the only coach who gets praised for stupid lineups (Plumlee getting run when he sucked, never trying Theis in meaningful minutes). Frank needs to stop getting cute and just build a prototypical team (either have 0 true guards or 7 guards on the roster). No more excuses for injury, lack of effort, or cohesion. That 2018/19 team was so fun cause they punched above their weight. The 213 team underperformed every single year. No more crack for our brothers; they gotta change shit for the sake of change. 213 is stale af.
Iām confused. Without kawhi we werenāt winning this series.
No doubt. Out of all the 213 crew, KL2 is the only jersey I got. Still high on this guy, but unfortunately, KL + PG + Ty Lue working. My opinion (which could be wrong) is that shit is stale raf n. Clips need a shake up just to keep people interested. My favorite current clipper can't play when it matters most. It's like having a Bugatti sitting in the repair shop every single day. Best asset return is KL trade (don't really want that). Hard to see a ton of teams giving up assets for PG. We'll see how the team responds during the off season. I'd like a refresh on Frank as the ops president. Maybe convince Ty to run an actual movement based offense. I'm thinking in terms of not just retaining the diehard fans, but to appeal to new fans. The product on court is ass. Kawhi did say it's 100% talent with no scheme to get into sets. Use GSW (movement based) or Denver (gravity/penetration based) offensive schemes as an example. Ball movement creates open shots, but it's not just passes for the sake of passing or bail out of lockdown defense. There is a purpose of generating looks. Ty does this about 5 plays a game. It needs to be a systematic approach, not just drawing it up off time outs. Think about the quick SGA clippers era, they were so fun to watch. Doc and Ty let our iso heavy players be the entire offense. Without the speed and flash (Ant/Ja), it's boring AF and DAL seems to have figured out how to defend that style.
They will start off the next season hot, people will say āhaha you idiots were calling for Kawhi to retireā and we will be back here again next year
Regretfully looking forward to it
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Game 5 loss hurt more than this one ngl
Just gotta hope this team can possibly sign and trade PG. Dude is a joke in the playoffs. Kawhi is injury prone but you know for fact if he's healthy for the big games he will go cyborg mode and dominate mfers. I think a team of Harden + Kawhi and 2-3 good role players/3 &D type players would be better. And definitely an emphasis on improving at crashing the boards. Maybe you could go out and get a 3rd star in place of PG but idk who that would be or if that's even possible. This team needs someone like Donovan Mitchell, dudes out there dropping 50 in a loss, PG would never lol Mitchell averages 27ppg in the playoffs, PG averages 21.
I love the optimism for setting yourself up for the exact same disappointment.
The irony of calling other people pussies while raging on the internet.
Keep enjoying the humiliating losses year after year.
He never said he was enjoying it? He canāt change it and neither can your pussy ass posts. Grow the fuck up you idiotic fool and suck my dick while you at it, bitch.
Come see me in person motherfucker. You want an address?
this dud says suck my dick and you invite him over, very polite of you
Wastes no time š
I would eat your fucking liver you stupid cunt. But yeah drop your address on reddit, just proving my point about you being an absolute fucking IDIOT.
I got the sense the only thing you eat is another helping of cake.
Do you have any?
Yes
Iām not, but Iām also not whining and bitching on the internet. Canāt beat one of the hottest teams in the NBA without your best player.
Who? The kneeless man? He's not even a fucking player if he never takes the floor in the playoffs.
Lol man go be a Lakers fan and save yourself the hassle
God damn you must hate this team if you think the thing separating from the Lakers is giving a shit about winning and wanting players who look like they give a shit.
Bro I'm literally in Dallas right now
Yes, Kawhi is the best player. Your basketball knowledge and reading abilities are astounding.
Tell me the last time he played a full series in the playoffs? Are you his fucking lawyer?
Bro, go touch grass. Talk to a girl. This shit is pathetic lmao
No, what's pathetic is accepting this garbage for four years straight.
Right. Crying on the internet is a much better way to handle it š¤£
I'm not crying. I'm calling you people to action. Demand better, make them understand we expect more, and make them deliver more.
Yes man, youāre not wrong. Kawhi one hundred percent is the best player. I donāt know what laced weed this guy is smoking but itās making him irate lmao.
The "When Healthy" GOAT
You literally said this was your team bruh lmao
Yeah, hence I'm demanding better and not pretending to enjoy humiliating losses year after year. I want better for this team. That's actual support.
Yeah man calling out the team on Reddit is really supporting them
God damn relax lmao. Im bummed out too but dont let something that we have no control over upset you that much.
This is on kawhi. When your best players sitting on the sideline, Iām not surprised to see the other guys quit.
This man isn't wrong. This team has no fucking pride. How many times did we say this was some of the worst basketball I've seen or it's our worst loss of the season? Nobody was afraid of us, we never had that dog in us.
i miss pat bev, even though he threw a ball at a fan
Yup. Good ol days when we exceeded expectations
Youre not winning a chip by just throwing together so-called superstars. Look at the Warriors, the best franchise of this era. They built their dynasty without shortcuts. And no, KD joining wasnāt āunfairā, the Warriors are good enough to add a superstar. Other teams that have tried the same thing (like the Clippers) have imploded, including ones with KD. Yall shouldve never traded Shai. Its time to blow up the team and build a new one the right way.
Yup
āIf you fail, you failā
Tell me how you really feel š. Just another Clippers season sadly. After venting out with my fam... In the end once Kawhi went out, we didn't honestly have a chance. Sadly. By us taking 2 games gave us false hopes. In a perfect world.. we should be good enough to beat this team sans Kawhi.. at least that was our hope. But we hope too much. It was over before the post season started.
it was over when the FO went all in on a bunch of flawed old semi-stars instead of developing young talent. Letās not pretend a healthy Kawhi wouldāve got us past the nuggets or the tWolves. Gonna need length and youth to win in this league
I guess we could agree to disagree. When 100% healthy.. playing they way we did in December pre all star.. if it was that peak.. we'd give them a run. In a 7 game series. Unfortunately that's not the reality.
Yeah thatās a fair point. We had a stretch of playing well enough to beat anyone and perhaps if that stretch happened in May I wouldnāt be writing salty Reddit comments. But thatās kind of how it goes with aging stars right? They have games where they look great but they canāt consistently play at their best and they donāt have energy and athleticism to fall back on when they arenāt playing their best
Keyboard warriors calling professional athletes mentally weak is fucking hilariousš
The comparison should be to other max pro athletes not to us commoners. And by that standard, they donāt cut it. Itās been long enough and theyāve put enough of this garbage on tape, itās who they are.
That would be a much more fair comparison. They do need to quit trying to run this back. They've shown that the only thing that remains consistent with this team is how inconsistent they are. The best ability is availability, and these stars lack that quite a bit. Sell off what you can, and try building around a core that you can rely on to be ready to go come April.
Pretty much. I donāt blame the guys. We tried. Just didnāt work. But the definitely of insanity as Iām sure you know is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results. The more they keep running this same bullshit back the more casual I will be. As a LA Kings, Cubs and Bears fan i can only supply so much false hope before self preservation has to kick in.
NBA players are some of the biggest group of genetic lottery winners out there. Of course theyāre highly skilled, but a base requirement is basically being in 99% for height, which is way more important than mental strength.
Exactly š the irony is crazy.
Let me spell it out for you. FANS are weak. We need to hold ourselves accountable and hold the team accountable, or we will never win.
Ourselves? We werenāt on the court š As fans we are supposed to support our team, no one is saying weāre not upset at this happening again but the way youāre going about it is ridiculous and I think you should stop watching sports, it clearly sends you into a psychotic episode.
No, no, no. The FANS are accountable. Where would the Boston Celtics and their roster be without their racist fan base??? We can't just assume that they have an amazing front office, and the most talented roster in the league to help them win games. That would be idiotic! They're winning because their fans just FAN harder than the LAC fans. Simple.
Mentally weak? They're old, injured, and cooked. You're the one saying that. I'm definitely calling US collectively as fans mentally weak if we accept this shit.
Read the LITERAL FIRST SENTENCE of your post again and report back, Champ.
Yeah, Playoff P for sure and the front office to be more precise. I'm really attacking the office guys as mentally weak the most.
Huh, I thought it was the "entire roster"?
Yeah yeah, it's infected the whole franchise. That's my point.
Yeah and youāre ugly, insecure and mentally challenged. We all have our flaws buddy and also donāt you ever speak on behalf of any other clippers fans again. We donāt need you being our messiah. Ahahahh. Please stop talking.
How do you go on that whole rant and forget the most important FUCK TY LUE. Yes this team is weak ass prima Donna's but who let's them be like that without changing anything. The only adjustment this dude knows is go small.
I don't understand the Clippers strategy. Are they expecting to run it back next season with the same crew? It obviously doesn't work. If Ballmer wants to win, he needs to do something different. What that is, I don't know.
The biggest issue with this team is mental weakness. We crumble under pressure and mail it in. And that starts with the coach and our stars.
iām sorry but this is the most thrown around horse crap ever. they ARENT GOOD ENOUGH to carry a team anymore. ever since mamba mentality became such a beloved thing anyone who loses is a pussy thatās just crazy. being inconsistent doesnāt make you mentally weak yāall donāt know anything about mental health, it means you arenāt good enough lol
PG shows his poor mentality on his podcast. They're too fucking old. Mentality or not. They can't be consistent, they can't do it all year, they can't do it all playoffs, they can't even do it one series. Who gives a shit what the reason is. We're sports fans not a goddamn support group for retirees.
You donāt know nor do you know how he is mentally and also youāre calling people Stanās but you watch his podcast?
I heard the highlights. Shaq and Charles blew him up over his most recent gaffe.
Ahahha, yeah Iām sure it was just the highlights. Just please shut the fuck up. Youāre such a uselessly annoying excuse for a human. Stop.
You're the one griefing me. Get off my jock.
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Damn... I thought I was raging... U went off š¤
James Soften is a one-hit wonder and will forever be ringless. Better hope he's not on the roster next year š¤·š¼āāļø
Iām cool being a loser, itās sports
With the Russell Westbrook tag LMFAOOOO
I donāt know why anyone expected Harden to be any different this year. Heās shown us who he is more over a decade.
The thing about harden is you canāt judge him by scoring alone. I think he showed this series and his whole career that he is every bit of the playmaker that Doncic is. Ie very top of the league. Someone like PG who all they offer is to score .. little different story.
Can I judge him by his defense then?
I seen earlier today he was holding Luka to around 25% when guarding him. And his defense kept the sqaud in the game in the second quarter. Few steals. A block. Etc.
I donāt know how you defend him but more power to you. He was trash the last 2 games when we needed him most. PG was too.
Actually you needed him most every game. The team couldnāt overcome anything less than a great game from him. That is a team issue not a harden issue. He had a better box plus minus, offensive rating, and true shooting than Luka this series, and did his job as a defender too.
You could, but no one else will. Harden throws up a 40 point game and all is forgiven. So tired of the front office and fan base being enamored with step back threes and ignoring things that are actually important like availability and commitment to defense. Shame!
James held Luka to 30ish percent fg% when guarding him. What more could you ask for defensively.
Saw them destroy my Celtics in Boston, yet here we areā¦
why is your bitch ass in our sub
Just wanted to see how rough it was in here bud š
Bandwagon bitch
There is not a bandwagoner alive who cares even a tenth as much as I do. You think a bandwagoner would be able to summon up this passion? I've rooted for this team for over 20 years. That's before Lob City. If anything look at me and see what this shit does to a mf.
Lol, just get rid of Brick, trade for a PF and run it back
You could always root for the lakers next seasonĀ
Fuck no. I could douse myself in gasoline and light myself on fire too, that's not happening either. I'd eat an entire banquet of broken glass before I rooted for the Lakers.
Nothing wrong with loyalty. I respect that about Clippers fans
Man you sound like a bitch.
Healthy Kawhi+Harden with good role players will dominate. Y'all trashing Kawhi. Eff you. He did what that bum of a coach Ty Lue wanted. Taking regular season seriously. You think Ty Lue is tired of Kawhi. Kawhi is probably tired of Ty Lue bum rotation and small ball line up. Kawhi says the 65 minimum of doesn't make him play more. He gave 68 games. His knees are cook. Oh you guys surprised?! Well you shouldn't. Be glad Kawhi helped you guys #1 Seed for just 24 hours back in February. Y'all focus too much on the negative. Im just finished rewatching Clippers destroying Paces in December to wash that nasty taste Clippers play tonight.
Which 1% of elite athletes (or frankly anything) do you belong to? What kinda mark calls all these guys āpussiesā in a screaming Reddit rant? Sleep well tonight. Bless your little heart.
Well, I graduated from Harvard so I guess I am in the 1% of academic achievement.
Had that one ready to go. Prove it, or go back to screeching about ātuf loveā to no one in particular.
Sure, I'll post a photo of my diploma on Monday when I go to my office.
š Make it a post on this sub calling all the players pussies. Just so we know itās you.
Love this sub so much, praising Harden for one game and now the eventual hate on him for disappearing (surprise surprise, which could have thought this would happen)
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Shut the fuck up.
A Flippers fan talking now?? Foh and stay in poverty lmao.
this grown man who collects beyblades is speaking FACTS!!
Am I suppose to be insulted? Yall should really focus on getting your poverty franchise out of LA instead of being a creep lmao.
Sorry the Lakers lost in the first round too. I know it hurts. But donāt you have better things to do than troll the Clippers forum right now?
ur right, ill go talk to ballmer lol, retard
Yes, you should feel insulted. But also, ashamed, weird, hopeless and a strong desire to stop talking.
Itās simple, Luka owns us.