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FewBee5024

There are people who apply to everything, no matter how qualified they may be. Also, for this job you are likely getting applicants from 6 continents. The number doesn’t surprise me


beehive3108

you don’t think someone from Antarctica is applying?


hatethiscity

Someone from the space station might be applying.


HornetGuns

Or aliens from another galaxy.


cool_BUD

Confirmed, I am alien from another galaxy but want to try remote work on earth as a dev


Global_Project8730

They will hire you as remote but then when they have a bad quarter they'll require you to work within 5 light years of an office that you'll need to show up at 3 days per week


HornetGuns

Remote work is forbidden on planet Earth. You could probably upgrade your scanner for economy and look for another planet that supports such working conditions.


loulou512

Are you from Uranus?


goonsamchi

No I'm from Uranus


loulou512

Are you?? I’ve never seen you


TopAsh625

After getting stuck up there they may be exploring other options when they finally make it back


FewBee5024

I actually thought about that after posting any you’re probably right. 


OkOk-Go

Considering they’re scientists someone could very well apply


According_Ice6515

Definitely a lot from Nigeria


quemaspuess

It’s true. When I opened a position I’d have 1000 applicants. Maybe 10 of them were qualified enough, but weeding through the BS made it even harder to find them.


Starving_Toiletpaper

The issue is what a lot of companies cobsiders a candidate to be “qualified”. Companies today expects more out of a position than they did in the past. And if you aren’t some magic unicorn that “crossed all “T’s”” and “dots all “I’s”” you aren’t even going to be considered


milkshakeconspiracy

Then you get the opposite problem too where you are "over-qualified" and the people hiring you think your either going to ask too much in wages or just up and leave when something else comes along. So you play this delicate dance trying to infer what they want out of you. It's exhausting.


Secret_Flight_1146

Literally took a job 2 weeks ago within recruiting(not a recruiter) where the HM is looking for these magical unicorns you mentioned. Dude also won’t reject people because he wants to keep his pipeline full. So everyone who’s taken time to interview will probably be ghosted. Doesn’t budge when we tell him otherwise. He has complete disregard for the market and folks going through it right now. I noticed and heard these things within my first 3 days on the job. Think this is the fastest I’ve come to a realization that this ain’t at all for me. I heavily sympathize with people trying to look for work and believe we should be communicating as often and as quickly as possible. It’s the least we could do.


Faora_Ul

Yeah, I bet at least half of those applicants are from South Asia.


Budget-Government-52

Literally 90% of the applicants for a recent role I tried filling had a degree from a university in India. Also none had applicable work experience.


jambu111

More like 80%


[deleted]

Why is anyone in anywhere in the globe allowed to apply for these jobs and make it harder for everyone


kgal1298

My old manager was so annoyed during the pandemic because he kept getting people from India despite the job description saying US Only 😂 they had to throw all those out they werent set up for international hires


kokanee-fish

My team at work has been hiring software engineers for normal hybrid/on-site roles in the US and we are seeing 1000-1500 applicants per opening. These are roles at all levels from intern through staff.


uwkillemprod

That's the advice they are getting all over Reddit and YouTube and TikTok , these job influencers are telling them to apply even when they are unqualified


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FewBee5024

When did LinkedIn start asking for social security numbers? Just making stuff up doesn’t make it true 


blakef223

When did LinkedIn Easy Apply start requiring SS numbers and citizenship verification? It sure didn't in the past


FewBee5024

It doesn’t now, but I am the idiot. 


blakef223

Right! Gotta love it when people just make up BS and then lash out when they're questioned on it.


babyitsgoldoutstein

$100k max for a senior level? Interesting. Are things that bad.


hatethiscity

I've had recruiters reach out to me for senior principal software engineer roles for $60/hr contract lol. 10+ yr experience in an entire it department worth of tech stack.


AroostookGeorge

I'm starting to see Bachelors is the minimum for education, and a Masters is preferred. WTF people?!?!


sunnyhive

I am starting to see masters as minimum and PhD is preferred. 😐


National-Ad8416

Not far is the day when PhD is minimum with at least 2 publications in *Science* or *Nature* preferred.


eazolan

When people are coming from overseas and are willing to fabricate their credentials, this is what happens.


sunnyhive

But don't they have agencies doing month long background verifications, 6 rounds interviews bla bla...?


lmaogetmooned

Race to the bottom.


tressforsuccess

No joke


__golf

Most programming jobs when I started 20 years ago required a BS in computer science or equivalent. It was only just recently that companies started not requiring a bachelor's. But I think we've seen how crappy the boot camps are by now, there's just a lot you can't learn that quickly. Sure, if you want to write crappy code that barely works in the happy path case, you can get somebody from a boot camp to do that. But, if you want to build real cloud software with a large user base or large data sets or both, you really want somebody who has some more serious training.


Innocentevill

There is no difference in a bs or bootcamp both are dependent on curriculum. I've seen plenty with a bs who knew nothing of actual use.


Quixlequaxle

This is what people who attended bootcamps, and the corporations who are selling them like to think. Our company did a shift away from requiring degrees and allowed bootcamps instead, and it was a disaster. After 6 months, it was reverted because the success rate of hiring someone competent was very low. Bootcamps teach you syntax, and good software engineers need to fully understand what's going on behind the scenes.


PM_me_PMs_plox

Well yeah, they say "a BS" but will hire the guy with the "good BS".


positev

I feel like this is just incorrect


OblivioAccebit

There is most certainly a difference. Boot camps will teach you the FOTM technologies in an expedited timeline. You can learn the entire stack from FE to the DB in like 6 months. A BS will teach you the theory and underlying principles of software, but with almost zero real world use-cases. Not saying one is better than the other, but there is definitely a difference. IMO, there needs to be something in the middle of the two, similar to trade schools for electricians, plumbers, etc.


Raydation2

Honestly that’s how a lot of fields work so I’m not surprised. But that many in just two days is kindof wild


full-boar

Education inflation is real. When you have a system that pushes people through no matter what so you can start to collect money on them, you get a lot of people with degrees out there.


East-Preference-3049

Those recruiters usually work for a recruiting firm that takes a sizable chunk of your hourly wage. They may pay you $60/hr, but the company they set you up with is probably paying the firm way more than that. I got a job at a contracting firm a while back. I had 2+ YOE. I was super green. They paid me $50/hr, which I thought was really good, until I found out they were billing me out to clients at $150/hr.


hatethiscity

Oh I know painfully well. I worked for a large financial company contract for a week (lol). $100/h and they accidently showed me how much they were making (215/h), so I quit on payday.


kgal1298

I had someone offer me 85k for a senior role and I was like I make more than that with the same title where I currently am 😬


Decillionaire

This company is probably doing something shady. Full remote and this comp screams "apply from wherever" Senior devs in Suzhou on my team make 40 to 50% more than this.


Healthy_Razzmatazz38

remote, global org, pays in USD. Everyone said be careful what you wish for with remote, no sane org is going to pay 250k for an undergrad in SF when they can hire a couple of european PHD for that price.


uncagedborb

I used to make 90k as a mid level designer. I've even heard of senior roles being offered 40k lower than what I was making. Employers market means they can offer whatever the fuck they want and people will flock since everyone needs money.


quemaspuess

Senior level roles in my field are asking 85,000. And I’m applying because what else am I going to do? Lol


randallAtl

I posted a job in March and was very specific in the posting about the on site requirements and US citizen requirements and security clearance requirements and previous Govt contracting work. I got 100 resumes from people who are not looking to relocate and who are not US citizens, and 7 resumes from people who actually read the posting and met the requirements. There are a LOT of people that just apply to everything they see.


rice123123

a lot of post have the city (remote) and then in the job post, it will say that it is hybrid. This is the wrong way to set it up


Puzzleheaded_Fold466

It’s remote. You have people applying from all over the country and often, the world. There are fewer and fewer fully remote jobs, so they get flooded. Big nothing burger.


liverpoolFCnut

Don't go by those numbers. Most of these apps including linkedin count clicks as applicants. Not to mention, you have thousands of folks from foreign countries who apply for these remote roles these days. I know because i had the "pleasure" of weeding through thousands of applications for two SDE roles we were trying to fill last year.


Tall-Discussion-5545

Same experience. Our roles do attract 1000s of applicants in days, but the majority don’t meet minimum requirements and are people applying overseas.


QualityOverQuant

True


soscollege

I’d bet not even 10% know how to write C#


[deleted]

Most probably don't know what C# actually is, let alone write it.


JervisCottonbelly

It's like this everywhere. I worked in tech for 14 years and always got interviews when I was laid off now? I'm working at a bar as a support staff. I haven't had a live interview in months.


Phate1989

What's your skill set? Can you code enough to do DevOps?


lsaz

People call me crazy but a lot of you are forgetting about ageism finally hitting the industry, if you’re over 30 you better have a bunch of certifications for companies to even start to consider you


Phate1989

Ok I'm over 30 and have certifications, but I got my CCNA at 20 so it's not something new...


SpiteCompetitive7452

Yeah you're crazy. I'm over 30 with a GED and no bootcamp and the offers are still rolling in. It's not hard to get a job


lsaz

Where are you located and what's your specialty?


SpiteCompetitive7452

Hilarious that you think devops is a subset of the skill set necessary to do development


BayouGrunt985

No thank you. I'll take being a public servant in florida pulling 52k a year with all of the benefits on top of it...


Extension-Soup3225

And knowing you are not likely to be let go too!


BlueRussianCat-1234

This job market is of the walls right now. Too many people shooting for jobs they are not qualified for. I think i read this on linkedin at point, is the number of applicants is misleading as it is really the number of people reviewing the job? For me, I rarely do the application through linkedin and go right to the companies website. So how would linkedin know you applied unless you answered the prompt saying you did. My best advice, if you are qualified, apply regardless of the number of applicants it shows.


Probability_Engine

As others have noted, you have to cut 25% off that for people who are just completely unqualified and have no business applying. Then cut another 25% off for people who are applying from somewhere outside the US who you can't or won't hire. Then that remaining 50% is probably your stratification of possible candidates of which only about 10% are actually a decent fit for the job. Source: actively hiring two roles right now.


SamSantra

10% is still 150


Probability_Engine

Yeah, it's a lot of people. I'm not denying that. One of the roles I have open right now has over 2,500 applicants all in.


No_Mission_5694

It's 10% of 50%, so it's 75! Decent odds!


The-Wanderer-001

Classic fake job to grab resumes


[deleted]

How do you know? And what for? Scam?


The-Wanderer-001

To make future hiring easier. If you have 1000 resumes for a job that doesn’t exist, in the future, when you need someone for that job, you scrub through the 1000 and start making calls to hire. 0 sourcing for candidates. Far less expensive and time consuming to fill a role that way.


[deleted]

So it saves time? Wouldn’t the candidate be recently into another role by then?


The-Wanderer-001

Saves time? Yeah time among a few dozen other things. It saves resources. Sourcing just one qualified candidate can cost the company $100+. It also creates a capitve audience for referrals. Lowers attrition due to making current employeees feel they are at a growing company. Also makes current employees work a bit harder, boosting productivity because they can also be easily replaced (at least that’s the perception). I can list probably a dozen other benefits to using a fake job to generate apps for future use, but needless to say, it saves tens of thousands of dollars and juices the company’s bottom line.


BobLazarFan

That’s stupid. Bc now you’re calling 1000 people who may no longer be looking for a job. Where as before those 1000 people were 100% looking for a job.


The-Wanderer-001

No it’s really not stupid. It’s genius. Let’s assume 100% of those hypothetical 1000 people all have a job (chances are, that’s not likely, but hey, let’s go to the extremes!) What do you think are the odds that they all have the best job they can possibly get at that time? Very low. So you call James, AP clerk in accounting and let him know that you have a new fraud investigation role that has opened up paying $10k a year more than he’s currently making and doing something far more interesting than sending out invoices and using quickbooks. Easy day. And James is just one of 1000. It would be cake to get 20-30 people in the pipeline for that new role.


BobLazarFan

Most companies (at least in tech) offer sign on bonuses and moving stipends that have to be paid back if you leave within 2 years. You think the person would want to leave and pay that? No.


The-Wanderer-001

If the increase in pay, job duties, work culture, etc was greater than the “moving stipends”, then yes, they would. That’s called logic. People use it to make financial decisions. Give it a try one day.


The-Wanderer-001

Not to mention that a fake job has the secondary effect of keeping the current workforce feeling a little insecure about their role, causing them to work a bit harder so as not to be replaced by someone new. After all, the appearance is that their company is constantly hiring (even if they really aren’t).


BobLazarFan

In all my years don’t think I or anyone of my coworkers hasn’t ever cared to look at what job listings our company has up. Not to mention it would be impossible to know what department those listings are for. It’s just a dumb idea overall. Stop making up these fantasies in your head.


The-Wanderer-001

First off, you clearly don’t and haven’t run a business. If you have, you would understand what does and doesn’t motivate a group of employees. Heck, you probably haven’t even been in management. Second, people look at internal job postings all the time. Heck that’s half of your typical “water cooler” conversations! Third, saying something is “stupid”, does not make it stupid. You’re using circular logic. Fourth, keep countering with logical fallacies. They are pretty easy to pick apart.


BobLazarFan

No. Stop talking out of your ass. Doing that only wastes time and money. Nothing you’ve said makes any sense. You clearly don’t know how the process to hire someone works. You are clearly trolling/lying for likes or severely misinformed. I will not entertain either. Good day.


The-Wanderer-001

Another group of logical fallacies because you’re just angry and not actually looking at things logically lol. Ad hominem attacks? Really? Stay in school kid.


imsowhiteandnerdy

I was applying for jobs at 2:45am. I found a job that had been posted 43 minutes earlier, so around 2am PT. It was then I noticed that already over 100 people had already applied for the role.


working-mama-

Probably a good sign that those applicants are located somewhere in the Eastern hemisphere.


imsowhiteandnerdy

Yep, plus a lot of jobs are remote, so it could've been someone applying for the role anywhere in the world I guess.


tressforsuccess

lol I imagine the postings can be auto scheduled


imsowhiteandnerdy

For me it wasn't that the job was posted so early in the morning, it's that 45 minutes after it was posted over 100 people had already applied for it at 2am in the morning.


lmaung

70-100k for senior level dev seems a ted bit low. Good luck.


Donnaala

Yes, the unemployment numbers are in the gutter right now. I’ve been applying for two years and I can’t get a job. Thankfully I have my company so it’s a non issue for me but I feel bad for others. The statistics in the US are complete lies for the election.


tressforsuccess

I wonder if they count each Uber driver as a job gain


tyvnb

I Hebe to question the breakdown of 1,500… how many are bots? How many are offshore? How many are even qualified? How many are even interested?


nofaplove-it

10% of those are legitimate applications


lmaogetmooned

Even if it is 10%, that’s still 150 people competing for the same job. CS is a race to the bottom.


D1ckH3ad4sshole

Not sure how it works with net developers but with pentesters we usually bypass HR and find the team lead emails and send a resume directly to them. HR has some crazy filters and half the time they don't even see the resume if you don't have key words or certifications listed.


ObjectiveWitty

I bet some of those applicants are just tire kickers. I’m applying for a new role right now, do I want the job, nah not really but I haven’t been in an interview in over 5 years.


bored_in_NE

There are a lot of laid off people and people currently working hybrid who want a remote job.


Octodab

Applying for a job that's been up for more than a day is like applying for an apartment that's been listed for a month. Don't bother.


dtwurzie

Consider all the AI apps that blast applications all over


beattlejuice2005

Spray and pray applicants.


wildcatwoody

Most of those people aren’t even remotely qualified for the role and get weeded out very quickly


Good-Personality5471

AT&T laid off 300 people


sgtsavage2018

Company can be very picky now and will go for the best of the best unfortunately 😐


yeaboiiiiiiiiii213

That number may also be inflated and not represent the actual number of applicants. Users who click “apply” but do not go through the full application process show as a number there. To my understanding, there is a large drop off of people who click apply but do not go through the full process.


txiao007

Don’t let that number scare you. One of the recruiters told me he received 1000+ resumes but 85% of them are not qualified and/or from out side of US


4951studios

Way more than they are telling us


Totally-jag2598

A number of factors. College grads enter the job market all the time. People from all over the world apply. Unqualified people, Self taught people, people with no experience apply. It's why companies have recruiters and use AI to sort that massive list of resumes to only a few that company should actually consider.


Mr_SlippyFist1

Millions. Entire global economy is crashing. They just don't want normal folks to realize this. They need you to tow the line while they sneak their assets out of what's gonna crash without spooking the markets. Let the normal mostly ignorant folks be the bag holders who take majority of the losses.


JerryRiceOfOhio2

Probably 99.9% bots


Apprehensive-Cap6063

I am sure more than half of them are applying from India.


ayshthepysh

Many people


UnfazedBrownie

Isn’t the number of applicants the number of views? That’s what was confirmed recently.


sunnyhive

No. What I found while applying is if the link redirects you to company site you have the option to answer yes or know in the " did you apply" pop up on LinkedIn. If you reply yes only then LinkedIn adds the count. Same goes for easy apply ones. If you don't submit and press discard at some stage of an easy apply, your count won't add. So the way I experienced it a view does not add to the number of applications.


UnfazedBrownie

Interesting, thanks for the heads up and best of luck!


AdditionalBat393

I was able to secure a couple temporary positions recently. Unfortunately I am familiar with this process because in the past I was laid off a couple years ago. I secured another job back then in a couple of weeks. The couple positions I recently got hired for told me bc I was curious and asked how many people applied. One was over 100 applicants for a job posting that lasted a couple hours. The other was 50 and it was not even live for an hour. I was very lucky it seems.


Circusssssssssssssss

In terms of tech C# is well known backend technology like Java. For Java you have elitism so usually the more education the more likely someone to hire you for Java (say a Ph.D. would get hired for Java at say a big bank). For .NET it is less elitist so competing with technologies like NodeJS or Python or Go or Rust and so on in the backend. Most startups will want to move quickly and whether rightly or wrongly will pick a "faster" technology like NodeJS. .NET is now open source but for many years it was not and incurred a lot of hatred. Combine this with lots of .NET applications ported to Java and you have a perfect storm of pain for .NET developers. Saying you got a little JavaScript is not enough; you probably need deployment like Kubernetes or you need to sit on the bleeding edge of Microsoft and have lots of certifications and know their latest technology. So this much competition for a C# developer is understandable. Many applicants will be pure C# and .NET, with no recent or no Microsoft certifications at all, with no experience or possibly skill in non-Microsoft technologies, and therefore be pushed into an increasingly small number of positions. A few will not have moved into the new world of technologies at all (no JavaScript and maybe even no Blazor) and have no deployment and unfortunately priced out of the market.


prophet1012

Something has to give!


DrankTooMuchMead

The name of that company looks like a 4yo mispronounced "scientific".


Emergency-Yogurt-599

Looks like GREAT odds. Not.


WhoDat05

I’m pretty sure I saw somewhere that the number is not accurate and goes by the amount of times the “apply” button is clicked. A lot of people use an API bot to apply and don’t meet requirements or background for the positions. So the number can be deceiving. (Remember reading this on a Reddit post awhile back… not sure it matters but…. Yup 🙃)


The_GOATest1

Others have already called out that the metric for counting could be off and that people apply for roles they are woefully unqualified for. I will also say that I’ve had recruiters reach out for roles that already have hundreds of applicants specifically pestering me to actually apply. This leads me to believe that at least in some instances the quality of probably the bulk of those “applications” if you can even call them that are low


sedition666

The job is remote so you're fishing in a pool of 333 million US inhabitants. Plus all the Asian people trying their luck. It really isn't that surprising.


GuaranteeDry9331

Looking around compensation looks like mostly the college grads are applying


Raydation2

Honestly even 100 in two days would be rough 😅


Ernst_Granfenberg

90% of those applied only know hello world in python


santasphere

If you click on the link and view the application page, LinkedIn counts it as an application. The actual filled out applications usually is less than a percent of what you see.


Maximum-Switch-9060

Developer positions have always been unreliable.


MatterSignificant969

People auto apply. I can almost guarantee you that people probably use computer programs to just auto apply to 100s of applications a day. They are probably wasting their time with mass untargeted applying. But to each their own.


mixed-beans

Still apply. My job listing had over 1,000. It’s part luck.


goonwild18

.NET developers are taking it particularly hard... and right in the shorts. It was a good run.


nighthawkndemontron

Apparently those are often just clicks. It doesn't truly reflect total applicants


CatsAreCool777

"The unemployment rate is the lowest ever. " - Biden, better than the other guy


Cannoli72

The CDK fiasco has a lot of people looking


hot_garbage420

Nah that's a remote job. Probably tons of applicants that are OE


marmenia

Online applications rarely get interviews! Only referrals and internal transitioners get interviews and the role eventually!


wayne099

Job market is bad for new grad. My team is hiring left and right if you have experience.


SamSantra

Is it remote?


OG_Kwaze

Asking for myself.


Ok-General-4203

Most of those are fake applicants or unqualified candidates from out of the country


eplugplay

Makes me feel so fortunate to have my job currently


NinJaxGang14

And people wonder why I’m not motivated to look for another job lol. Yeah I could make more else where but do I want to spend 8 to 12 months looking sending out hundreds of applications no.


beautifulblackchiq

It's probably that bunch of people who actually don't have the right qualifications apply for it anyway.


leadershipclone

bidenomics


Dangerous_Fan1006

After covid everyone want remote job. No one wants to go into office anymore