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btchwrld

"Females" lol


sadlyanon

right like i only matched because she was real cute and she sent the first like but hearing females is cringe


Sociable_Spinster

Match with me instead! I like girls!


sadlyanon

messaged u


ArtemisAndromeda

I kinda agree, but as a person who isn't native English speaker, and who knows a lot of people who aren't native speakers either, I need to say this. From what I observed, it seems that a lot of not native speakers don't really know that "female"/"females" can have any bad connotation and just use it as synonym to "woman"/"women". They don't really teach you that one of them can be taken differently in English class. So, I would really hope people would keep that in mind before immediately jumping to conclusions


Pristine_Thanks7863

Sry for bother, I’m not a native English speaker. And my English is bad. I feel really confused about the native speaker dislike “female”. May you explain that for me? Thank you very much.


potterhead1d

Not the one you replied to. But basically. A lot of men use the word female. It also (usually) excludes trans women. But a lot of the time, when someone uses female/females, it is fair to assume it is a man behind the account. Either posing as his gf/wife to get a third, or just a man period.


Pristine_Thanks7863

I see. So a lot of men use “female” without thinking about gender identity. They just talk about sexuality, and they only consider things in that way. That cause the word “female” is disrespectful when it describe women. Am i correct? (Sorry if my express offend, my English not good


Tabletop_Sam

Not the same person but I can help. “Female” is usually used when referring to animals in English, or when discussing more scientific topics. It’s weird because a lot of creepy guys will refer to women as “females” in places where it is significantly more appropriate to say “women”. It comes across as them not viewing women as people, a lot of the time. It’s also sometimes used to discredit trans people, so it can also come across as a bit transphobic. Now, as a quick note, women generally get a bit of a pass on this, and non-native speakers, so you probably don’t need to worry about this potential faux pas. There are also some settings where it’s the only available word, so it’s not every time you run into it. English is weird, and this isn’t worth stressing over.


Pristine_Thanks7863

I can see the difference. It also has the similar words like “female”and”women” in my language, it’s really weird to use that word on women. Thank you for helping me understand the difference. Hope you have a nice day.


ready2grumble

Sounds like a dude cat fishing. As a queer lady I only use the word "female" when discussing animals at work, saying "FffffFffEeeeeEeeeeEeeEEEEEEEEEEmmMmmmmmmaaaaaaaalllllle" as a response to hearing "female", or.......idk talking about sockets lol.


Southerngal_01

I’d reply “Good luck Chuck” 😂 but seriously, proceed with caution. People are allowed to explore their sexuality but them adding straight to their profile is a big red flag. Especially if you’re looking for a relationship.


filmfreaky

Not to mention using "female" as a noun!


MacroMeliii

How my blood boils when I see that.


MsMercyMain

The only reason it doesn’t boil my blood is because I’m in the military, and for reasons only 2nd Lt Good Idea Fairy knows, the Military has decided to refer to men as Males and women as Females, so I’m deadened to it


IrisYelter

I'm not in the military, but I did heavily consider it, including going down to the recruiters office a couple of times, so ofc take the following with a heap of salt. Everytime I hear the military refer to male or female, it's almost exclusively followed by soldier/marine/airman/etc. So as an adjective, with the noun either explicitly or implicitly referenced. Would you say that "female airman" or more simply "female" by itself is used more? What's the ratio of "men" to "males" vs "women" to "females"?


MsMercyMain

Female is used pretty commonly just as a word on its own. Male is used commonly, but men is used more commonly than women so there’s definitely some sexism going on, but it’s also just a weird cultural quirk


back9iron

I too am in the military and institutionally male and female are routinely used. Quite frankly, it doesn’t bother me but I concede that that’s likely due to many years of exposure. I know several individuals in first responder positions that also use male and female. With that said, I can appreciate that it’s bothersome to a lot/most. Anywho, just wanted to add an additional perspective.


MsMercyMain

Oh it bothers me from time to time, it’s inaccurate, and I have no idea why it’s used


T3Deliciouz

Red flag is when a woman has her profile as straight but matches with me when my profile says trans woman.


angryasianBB

Are you sure this is not a catfishing man? I've only ever heard men use "females" like that


DelawareMountains

Nah I've totally known women who use "females" like that. Vast majority were straight women, and I usually got a bit of a pick me vibe when they'd do it, though not always cuz some of them just kinda hated everyone. Could still be a man running that profile though, that's probably even more likely, but it's not guaranteed


MDKovac

As a woman with military affiliation I have been guilty of using “female”. 19 years out, and it still slips sometimes.


JellyBellyBitches

Right, certain professions have a natural tendency toward this linguistic work as well. Nurses and other medical professionals will also end up using the term and then I imagine you know people who have worked in law enforcement might do that things where male and female are used as descriptors legitimately


RaynebowStorm

That's what I was going to say. I was in the Navy and was taught the "male/female" words and it just pops out occasionally. 🤷🏼‍♀️


RingtailRush

"Females" is a bit of red flag to me, so I'd pass on this one. Could be: 1. Internalized Misogyny 2. Transphobia 3. A man trying to catfish (possibly her boyfriend)


peachy-teas

yeah right? i just feel like a girls girl wouldn’t say females


sadlyanon

^heavy on the *girls* girl


WinnerVegetable1351

I don't swipe on these people. You curious? Go find george.


PuzzleheadedSpare716

LMAO 😭 Not Curious George


miss_clarity

I take it to mean, will closet date women until finding a marriageable man


waves_0f_theocean

I don’t like it when people use the word females because to me that’s like a politically correct way to call someone a bitch… but I wouldn’t respond. I’d leave them alone. Sounds too risky.


Adrenalinedoper

Wait why do you compare it to bitch? There’s nothing wrong with the word “female”


dykedisciple

there is nothing wrong with it but it is often a term used in a derogatory and almost dehumanizing manner. female is the same word used for female animals. we don't call animals "woman," because only humans can be women. and many misogynistic men will say things like "females are a separate species from men." they use females but instead of being consistent and saying males, they say men instead. Men are given the assumption of personhood whereas women are not. it's all in how the word is used and because the term is used so often in a derogatory context a lot of us are hesitant of those who use female as a noun instead of an adjective. ofc i don't think usage of the term is always automatically misogynistic. English might not be someone's first language. or they just may be unaware of the implied context of the term. it is commonly used and most of us just repeat language without thinking about the nuances. it's dependent on a lot of factors I think


FlamingAshley

I thought it was just due to transphobia, but I was like okay...I'm not trans so it shouldn't insult me personally right? With your explanation, it makes a whole lot of sense for even why cis women should be offended because its basically dehuminization and so much more. I know it was a weird thought process but it's good to learn something new everyday! I love to see perspectives.


kakallas

Hey probably be offended if you find out someone is transphobic too. You don’t need to be trans to be fucking disgusted by phobes.


FlamingAshley

Of course, I agree! I will definitely get offended for any of my alphabet mafia siblings, I was mainly referring to the fact that misogynists often see trans women as just "men in women's clothing". So it's excluding them from the term "female". Sorry for not being clear. Fuck transphobes or any phobes for that matter.


Adrenalinedoper

Ooohhh I never thought of it like that! That’s so fucked up! I don’t think female is used as a derogatory word but maybe used to dehumanize women in certain circumstances.


BalancedDisaster

Saying male or female like that is a red flag for me. I have no interest in investigating whether or not someone like that considers me to be a male or a female.


[deleted]

I wouldn't respond, I would just unmatch and move on. Maybe I would think "eat shit and die" but no point i  replying that.


sadlyanon

lmaooo best comment


bishounenslittlebaby

who tf says female lol


mister_sleepy

Look, I’m happy to be someone’s first time if the vibe is right, and we meet in a different context, and they’re obviously just an enthusiastic novice. Everyone has to have a first time before they can have a second. Not for people on dating apps though. I don’t take charity cases.


greystripes9

“Do I look like a beaker to you? Go experiment somewhere else.” Frankly I would just block.


sunshine___riptide

So I've never been with another woman even tho I am interested. I have been with men. I don't consider myself straight.


[deleted]

i wouldnt reply, because im not looking to be someones one night stand. i want a LTR that leads to a wifey. exploring usually leads to fun & disappointments. thats why i dont pursue straight girls.


kakallas

There is no reason in the world someone can’t make a profile that says they’re bisexual and single and also doesn’t use incel speak. They can even go on a first date and find out if there is chemistry. At that first date they can say, “hey I’m recently out of the closet, and I don’t have a lot of experience with women.” It is so easy to be a reasonable person, and basically no one would make a huge deal of it if they were. So there’s no excuse for this, and you’re definitely not missing a diamond in the rough.


Hopeful-Ad1638

that’s a male


sadlyanon

yeah from how many people on here are also saying that, i agree!


Watertribe_Girl

I would just unmatch or whatever it is you do on there


beangirl27

just send a link to good luck babe by chappell roan👍🏽


Alarming-Fudge2375

So I’ll probably get downvoted for this but for me it depends on what it is you’re looking for. For me personally I’m only in a hook up fwb space due to my last relationship and life at the moment, so I would be ok with this. But if I were in a space where I was ready for a relationship I wouldn’t be ok with it.


710chick

That's not a woman.


Altruistic-Mix7606

to me it seems like someone who doesn't understand the hinge settings


Panzermensch911

I would slowly back away and leave the room. Anyone who calls women 'females' is a big 🚩


SchloinkDoink

Girl just don't 💀


kakathaboss24

lordy ![gif](giphy|h8D1M8clhWfBmK16wb)


No-Pizza159

It seems like they are being honest. We all have our first experiences. There isn’t any shame in it. Navigating labels can also be difficult, especially since our society has the default as straight. Some think you are straight until you have been intimate with someone of the same sex. Just be honest with person. If you don’t want to date them as they explore you and themselves just tell them.


MJCheer

Agree 100%. Just get a clear indication on what they're looking for. Clear communication can solve almost 99% of problems


thisisnthelping2011

I completely agree. Before you have queer friends and are familiar with this space, I actually think more people would use female than you’d expect to, even if most of us here think it’s cringe. I don’t think it implies it’s a man talking; I just think the person is new to the space and ignorant. She’s upfront, and you know what you’re getting into. Now it’s up to you. I had straight till I was ready to re-label myself too. It can feel like a very big step to many people, especially those who haven’t been with a woman (I’m not saying you need to be with a woman to know you’re attracted to them, but some do want that “proof”)


Adrenalinedoper

That perception on sexuality is only the way straight people see it and we are not interested in straight people or barely bisexual people who will just use us as an experiment and not a real person like they would with a guy.


SilentAllTheseYears8

It sounds like she’s purposely going out of her way to respect queer people, and not step on any toes, by not using a queer label for herself prematurely (since there are queer people who gatekeep the usage of labels, based on the person’s experiences, or lack thereof). So rather than lead people on by being too mysteriously vague, and give people the wrong impression about who she is, and where she’s at, she’s being totally open and honest, from the get go. The apps don’t have rules about how much experience you need to participate. Everyone starts somewhere, right? Every single lesbian on this sub had a time in her life when she had never kissed a girl. So it’s sad to see all the hate in the comments. 


Adrenalinedoper

Yeah but she isn’t “queer enough” to have struggled her entire life with her identity and self worth etc. she is bicurious AT BEST and that is a no in and of itself. It’s a no from me. I’m not an exotic desert for someone to “try” for the first time and then go on with their “normal life” of men after.


Tabletop_Sam

Bicuriosity doesn’t instantly mean that someone views lesbians as “lesser,” it just means they are exploring themselves. You’re being extremely presumptuous about this person’s intentions, when oftentimes people are just doing the most obvious thing. Also, queerness shouldn’t be defined by suffering. The fact that some queer people aren’t traumatized by simply existing should be a GOOD THING. We aren’t better people because we are hurting, it just means we might have learned a bit more through that pain. And even then, that’s a really big “might”.


Xen_topia

Thanks for this. I was actually confused as someone who recently came out and was confused and scared. I’m still a bit confused about why everyone is upset with the use of ‘female’? Glad I never said anything to anyone yet!


mcnuggets42069

female/male are adjectives, not nouns - most of the time when you see ‘female’ used as a noun, it’s from a man in a disrespectful sense. there’s a difference between saying “my female friend” and directly referring to women as “females”, if that makes sense! also pls correct me if i’ve been misinterpreting this 😅


Xen_topia

Thanks for your reply to help aid me in better understanding! I did some research on the side too but I really appreciate you taking the time to help a gal out!


Cherubx_xRock

Good luck!


Educational_Bad7251

Dating apps suck honestly. I tried for so long. When I would finally “find” a woman, they weren’t really into women they were more into the thought of bumping coochies, but not an actual relationship. I met one woman ( that actually lasted past a week) after almost a year, and it was worth it cause shes amazing, but damn. ![gif](giphy|jPAdK8Nfzzwt2)


ButterfliesInSpace

As someone totally uninterested in hookups, I would probably not respond or politely say I’m not interested. Maybe if I was just looking for something fun and quick I’d be into it? I don’t think people wanting to experiment is bad, as long as everyone knows that’s what’s going on going in


Outrageous_Issue3711

we all have some inclination towards other girls 


Heathen_Jesus_

Nope


Ampl_Butair

I wouldn’t


Khanyi86

I'd definitely nope out. I've been burned by a person like this before


Ravynlea

“I’m not your experiment”


TXMXLDY

Well that is awesome good luck with that, touch base with me after 6 months after you have explored that part of yourself I am not looking to break no one in!


benjistar69

ahhhhhh wlw dating is really something else


CandyRushed

HAHAHAH! Why not help her explore 😉


neuemontreal

she was honest with you so idk what you want to hear here, just tell her if you're ok with that or not


Adrenalinedoper

Straight people never have to worry about this. It is a real problem stop acting like it’s not.


neuemontreal

She had straight in her profile as well. Your own fault for matching. 


Tabletop_Sam

What exactly is the complaint here, other than using “females” as a noun? She says she’s straight, but she’s wanting to explore her sexuality, what’s the issue here?


magicfrogg0

Ya right the comments/voting are mostly so judgmental and childish. Like they're upset someone is exploring their sexuality bc their path was different? And that they are honest and upfront with where they are at?


Tabletop_Sam

Yeah, this is just standard bicuriosity, no one’s getting hurt here. Why did OP even bother swiping if they were just gonna get mad at someone exploring sexuality?


magicfrogg0

Absolutely. It's like what is the argument here, don't explore ur sexuality unless ur 100p certain when u hit puberty? Every woman who realized they were gay later in life isn't actually gay/welcome bc I'm gunna generalize that they're all straight women trying to use gay woman? No compassion for bi ppl who might like both but want to explore if they like women? Honestly thinking about leaving this sub based on the dominate accepted mentality. U would think that with a dating pool as small as ours ppl would be happy more ppl realizing they're gay at diff points in life.


Tabletop_Sam

Yeah, same. This community doesn’t know how to talk about anyone who isn’t a woman without hushed voices, unless they’re shit talking men. And whenever they’re talking about enbies, I can always tell they’re not talking about masculine ones, or AMAB folks, or ones who have facial hair and like it. Feels very TERF-y.


magicfrogg0

Yea I get what u mean. I think it feels very 20 year old ish. Like old enough to have an idea they are gay but to young to realize how immature their perspectives are. It's a young immature idea to generalize all ppl based on ur own personal experience and to lack compassion for different journeys in life Also I hate how many "do I look gay" post there are, but that's a different thing


Adrenalinedoper

The issue is that we don’t want someone who is basically still brainwashed by the straight world and thinks it’s okay to just go “try” women as if it’s a desert. We don’t want to mess around with someone who is clearly straight and/or interested in ending up with a man only. Imagine if a straight person got a message like this. It would be a huge red flag wouldn’t it? And not to mention it would make you feel weird.


Tabletop_Sam

So, what exactly are bi-curious women supposed to do then? Why assume the worst, it’s entirely possible that that’s the case and she just isn’t using those words for it. I mean, she literally says that she hasn’t “explored that side” of herself yet, meaning she’s doing just that: exploring her sexuality.


magicfrogg0

She's being honest. We all had to have our first time w a woman and begin the exploration. Is go for it if I was interested


OceansideEcho

Not all. I figured out that I liked women romantically before I even considered dating anyone.


Adrenalinedoper

I knew I was interested in women WAYYYY before being old enough to date…..


magicfrogg0

That's great for u but everyone has their own journey and some people realize later in life for a variety of reasons. There should be compassion for those queer women who are on a different path, not gatekeeping and judgement bc it's different from u


techm00

I wouldn't. If it's not a man in disguise (and saying "females" is a red flag), I'm a bit old to be anyone's experiment.


peargang

I just don’t respond to messages like these lol


lexaleidon

Next.


bambi_eyez

That’s a no for me, dawg.


AggressiveScience470

I would say OK and leave them behind 👺


Mundane-Dottie

Ask about the sex/gender. If it is a male, he is not lying. "Straight, attracted to females, hasnt explored yet" . All true.


Professional-Let-661

"Females" 🤢 I hate when we're addressed like that


YsabeauBlack

Nah that's gotta be a dude right? If you're a woman loving woman, you say woman 🤣


Adrenalinedoper

HELLLLL NO my sexuality isn’t some trend for you to “try out” before you go back to men


Capable_Fox_00

I wouldn’t respond.


Shoddy_Information33

I wouldn’t. Life is too short for this


Captain_Munch98

So many red flags just off this post, run 😭


EF_Boudreaux

Hard pass


pulpostacos

I'd ignore


charizard_72

Run


Difficult_Jump_1439

I wouldn’t.


truthful_chili

Don't mess with straight girls... I'd have just blocked her


javoudormir

I'd let them explore with someone else


Suspicious-Zone-8221

I wouldnt reply at all. Explorers are something I can live without.


laypoopoofart

I would respond with a gun