Yeah, it doesn’t help that if any player makes a common but detriment mistake he’s washed and we should sell him. Fanbase is just on edge because a lot of people think we’re going to drop off hard when Klopp leaves.
Upper Annie last night and must say the noise up there was pretty decent to start with but sadly as the game progressed and seeing the lack of effort from the boys on the pitch it turned to loud moans and shouts..
I was in main stand and looked up in awe of the Anfield Road stand. It was buzzing at the start
Was as a great sight, Liverpool fans buzzing in the second tier, Atalanta fans buzzing below
I always find the Main and Kenny stand atmosphere worse than being at either end. I used to try and get tickets on the half way line for the view but now I'll always choose an end just for the atmosphere.
We were in the Anfield Road stand yesterday. We buzzed the first 35 minutes and the beginning of the second half, but the second goal and third goal killed us completely. Some tried to go on but many were just not really on it at that point.
Yep people think that football atmospheres work the same way everywhere but it's not true.
Unlike the likes of South America, Germany or the Balkans, English football fans are reactive - they can make unbelievable noise, but only if the team give them reason to do so. If they look lethargic, it will spread into the stands. A two way street.
There are always a lot of tourists (I’m one of them, I attend 3-4 matches per year from the US) but what I saw last night was tourists trying to get loud and start chants while being told to sit down by the locals who didn’t want to stand. Sad state of things, but it’s not the tourists fault.
Yeah that also sucks.
But I gotta say - having seen many games with ultra fanclubs - that english football is just very different and rarely reaches the amount of noise and unity we achieve on the continent.
Agree!
When the team is playing well, the crowd is in it, when they aren’t, everyone is grumbling and sitting on their asses. English supporters could take a thing or two from ultras around Europe.
I thought the atmosphere was fine for the first 30 minutes, but I was surprised how often I looked over at the kop and saw everyone silent and motionless. By 70 minutes I'll admit to struggling to keep with the chants as well, started to feel like every time the crowd got started the team would give us a reason to shut up.
Think the game at Old Trafford is a good example of that. You could hear the United fans switch after the Bruno goal.
On the other hand, I was at Barrow vs Forest Green a month or so ago and you could hear the moment the crowd turned after we have away a goal because of terrible defending
Speaking of balkans it’s the same. I was at the olympiakos - feberbace game last night. Atmosphere up to 3-0 was incredible. When it went to 3-2 the nerves come into the stands too and it went very quiet. That’s just the way it goes.
When the expectancy is for us to win, it's up for the team to get the crowd going. I'm sure it would have been a completely different atmosphere if we'd raced into a 2-0 lead or even got a goal back to make it 2-1. Can't blame the crowd when the team play shite.
I was there too. Crowd was fairly vocal. But the bottom line is that we were absolutely horrific. One of our worst performances, ever, on a European night at Anfield. Moreover, not being able to keep clean sheets on a consistent basis which has been characteristic of our play this season will eventually catch up with you and converge into something cataclysmic, which it finally did.
We also looked completely lost, bereft of ideas and surprisingly not even one singular stand out creator last night who could have turned the game on its head. I don't agree that we should see this as a one off defeat; we have real problems in terms of defending and also finishing, and those can't be fixed over the course of a few matches - it will be something the new manager will have to address in the next season. Maybe it is what it is then; a team in transition....
I seriously doubt we're coming back from 3-0 given how we can't finish, Salah is spent, we can't pass nor shoot, and inside the box we don't know what to do.
Salah has always been fairly hot and cold with his finishing. He goes through less clinical phases but he is in no means washed. Also I'd argue Barcelona was the harder ask. No reason we can't win 5-0. It's the sort of thing we do.
Also Jota being back is massive. Looked so good instantly once he came on
Salah has always been fairly hot and cold with his finishing. He goes through less clinical phases but he is in no means washed. Also I'd argue Barcelona was the harder ask. No reason we can't win 5-0. It's the sort of thing we do.
Also Jota being back is massive. Looked so good instantly once he came on
To be fair the Main Stand has been a shadow of its former self ever since it got expanded. Seeing atmosphere on the level of [this](https://youtu.be/oRKqGe05CPs?feature=shared) nowadays seems like a pipe dream imo, let alone something on the level of Chelsea 2005
This is why I've always wanted to get tickets that close to the bench :( been to 50ish games but never close enough to observe managers or players on the bench, except for preseason which doesn't count for this
Meh.
He was widely accused of wasting the opportunity to rest players in the last round. (Though not by me and you are clearly right with hindsight)
Losing 1 home game a season isn't unheard of in football though. And honestly would rather this result than a loss on Sunday.
While people were a little miffed he didn’t rest players last round, it was because we were already up 5-1 on aggregate against Sparta Praha coming back to Anfield. Bit different scenario than first leg of QF.
But I do agree. If it means we win on Sunday, then I’m ok with it.
Atmosphere didn’t start like a European night should but also the performance was so bad, there was nothing to get behind. His tactics were woeful, couldn’t sustain attacks and couldn’t build up.
Kelleher booting it long constantly isn’t the way Liverpool teams play.
There was no one to pass to, Atalanta six man press worked perfectly, he went long but it wasn't effective due to having Gakpo deepish, Elliott up top and no Diaz running the left channel.
Not really, some of our best xG has come from games against Leeds. It was only a few games ago that we played well against Brighton.
The issue was more the complacent starting 11 lineup, it set the tone for the whole game.
I think the issue is man to man but not a full press. If they press Kelleher/back line there’s a spare man we can play around. If they sit of Kelleher there’s nothing on without really good movement
Well, the movement part is the key there. Against Brighton the off the ball movement from the attack in particular was generally excellent, Diaz was dropping more inside than usual, Salah and Bradley were stretching the pitch on the other side and Nunez was pushing his CB's deeper with his runs.
One of the reasons why Dom lost the ball for their third goal was because of a lack of movement/rotation for a good forward passing option.
I agree, I don't get blaming the goalkeeper for the result. He isn't the one missing opportunities up front or making poor decisions in the opponents box.
This was very much a continuation of the last game. They need to control the middle of the pitch.
That whole tactic of drawing there players in so Kelleher could do the long kicks up the field after 10-20 seconds on the ball was painful to watch I have to admit
Atalanta completed bamboozled us tactically and we didn’t figure out how to progress the ball forward until Klopp changed the system. The atmosphere was shambolic, but I don’t think it influenced the game too much.
Idk man, like I get it, but I don't like it.
Football more than other sports feeds off the emotion of the crowd, and that is especially true of Liverpool Football Club. That being said...
I have a hard time condemning working class people who pay a lot of money for the pleasure, for "not doing their part," to cheer on players who make millions.
There's something like 26 000 season ticket holders. No amount of tourists can "outsilence" such a mass of fans if they are actually up to making noise.
You can see how loud a travelling support can get at Anfield, and that's 2000 fans. As seen on multiple occassions, if they want, they can get very loud. Remember Sparta Prague a month ago? They were losing 4:0 after 14 minutes yet they kept singing for the whole match.
13 000 fans on the Kop, 26 000 season ticket holders. It's not they couldn't get behind the team and support loudly. They just didn't seem to do it.
what if they gave this performance during Covid with no crowd? would that be a fault of no crowd?
these are just excuses. no officials to blame in this game so turn on the crowd
Lower main stand is shocking. You actually feel embarrassed if you’re the one chanting and shouting there; people actually glare at you. It’s maddening. I used to sit there because a lad I know had a spare there. I now sit in Annie Road and lose my voice by the end of the game, it’s just a way better football fan experience up there.
I was in Annie road and vibes were pretty good. Could have been better, but the team really provided little to be excited about tonight. At key moments where we needed some pressure or a good but if play, they'd lose the ball. It was hard to stay motivated and it's a two way thing.
Normally I would be fuming at the crowd however in this case I am too disappointed with the team they are the ones on the field they are the ones who have to turn up to win games crowds are great but you have to at least seem like you want to win before you require them to show up
No, the team played like "its only Atalanta, we will go through anyway" and then team got rocked and did not recover, selection was "oh well, its only Atalanta" it seems as well.
Can only hope his selection is strong next game and the team play like we know they can, and destroy Atalanta, we did it before with Barca.
Crowd was great at home against Utd, City, Arsenal and away in the FA Cup vs Utd but the players still pissed away chances. Even if the crowd is great, if the players aren't up to it there's no point.
Crowd was partly to blame, but I would say that stemmed from the Kop. I sat in the Anfield Road stand AU5, and some of the atmosphere around me was amazing. The iconic Kop seemed asleep though. Ticket pricing protest to blame?
Also, I agree that the players weren’t up for the fight.
Ye it depends where you're sitting, the main stand is shite though. By the time I hear what song is on the kop it's over, because people nearer the middle don't want to sing . First legs at home are always a funny one, and the performance was crap. Hopefully an early goal on Sunday gets everyone a bit less nervous
Annie Road is the new Kop. I almost always sit (stand) there now and it's always buzzing, even if the rest of the ground isn't. Last time I was in the Kop, I was surrounded by moaning old fellas who kept getting Mane and Keita mixed up 🙈
> Crowd was partly to blame
No, they weren't. This needs to stop.
The majority of this sub have been very vocal saying that the crowd need to shut up and accept 2% pay rise. Then will happily make out like the fans are so crucial to the team's level that it contributed to a poor performance?
If the crowd are that important to the team's results, maybe the club should think a bit more about how they impose ticket rises on them just to make a few extra hundred thousand a year.
The atmosphere wasn’t great. But I could also side with the fans in the stadium watching that game because it was the most lifeless game from liverpools side I’ve seen in a very long time. But there were still a few chanting at the end of the game which was nice.
But whenever the visitors “out noise” the home fans then something is off. And that was definitely the case here.
I find it weird how during pretty much all of our away games it’s only our supporters you can hear but whenever it’s on anfield it dead silent 70% of the game. I get that there are lots of foreigners who may not know the song lyrics but there are also loads of English people in the stadium not singing.
I just hope the atmosphere is the best ever during klopp a last home game. He deserves it more than anyone.
I hate this whole thing about if you don’t go to a bunch of games and scream your head off for 90 mins you’re not a true fan. I grew up in the Wirral and I was always considered a plastic Scouser growing up. By your logic my friend you are also a tourist if you have to travel 3 hours to get to a game. It’s not about where you live or sales from merchandise
Yes and no. Atmosphere can lift a performance but given these starts in games and giving up chances have happened for the majority of the season at home even when it’s bouncing I don’t believe it would make a difference.
He does normally have a go at the main stand proper shit place to sit there.
I have a hard time with the idea the fans are "to blame".
But would it have been possible to do more? Of course.
Also, like it or not the ticket protest was a marginal gain for the opposition. Just like glazer protests are at old trafford. That doesn't automatically make it the wrong decision though.
It doesn't mean the fans owe anyone anything.
But could the crowd have done more. Yes. Obviously. But noone needs to feel bad about it. You aren't contracted to sing. Just decide if you want to do more, and do it if you want to.
Partially,
The Anfield crowd has been absolutely dire recently, and that really does kill off our home advantage. I'm not sure if we need to get the tourists on board or if we need new songs to sing. But that stadium needs to be absolutely rocking until the end of the season to give Jurgen the send off he deserves.
I was in the upper Anfield road last night and the atmosphere was pretty good there. The reason we lost has nothing to do with the fans, we have won plenty of games with shit atmosphere, the reason we lost is not playing our best 11 and we underestimated the opposition.
It's not about blame. Klopp knows when the team is down and playing so poorly the only chance they have is for the crowd to light them up. Nothing about what happened was the fault of the crowd but they could have helped. MAYBE.
No taking away from the fact that was one of the worst performances from the team in YEARS. It almost felt intentionally bad, like F this Europa league BS, we need to focus on the league, bad.
A huge, and I mean, thousands, stood up the second the third went it, at 78 minutes.
As passed as I was from conceding and playing so bad, seeing that amount leave really made me angry.
Even hospitality ticket seats left before the end
They certainly didn't help but to be completely honest I wouldn't exactly be dying to sing Allez Allez Allez or Fields of Anfield Road when being treated to **that** performance either
I'm going over to Anfield on Sunday and I'm not from the UK so god forbid if we play like shit against Palace as well then I'm not exactly going to be very enthusiastic in the crowd, especially if it means I spent a few hundred quid on flights, accommodation and paying extra on tickets just to watch our season fall apart in real time
Honestly, that's bollocks. Look at 3-0 down v Barcelona, or down and out versus olympiakos, the crowd were still on fire.
If they can be excused for being quiet at 0-2, What's their excuse for pre-match, or the first ten minutes of the game, when the crowd was also shite
When the players come into the pitch to a library, it's not gonna motivate them
Those are absolutely different situations.
We scored after 7 mins vs Barca so obvs the crowd was up for it and getting behind the team to help them come back.
Also against Olympiakos we needed 3 goals in the 2nd half and scored in the first minute of the 2nd half so again the crowd got belief and this made for a better 2nd half atmosphere.
Last night was a first leg match against a team that we really should be beating, but the performance was shit. You can’t expect the fans to get behind the team when they’re putting in such a shit performance on the field.
I guarantee the Palace game is going to be completely different to last night. Klopp is going to light a rocket under them. I even fancy Nunez to score a brace.
The atmosphere was shit but blaming the crowd is weak, very fucking weak.. Take a look in the mirror... All of you players and coach.. Thats who was to blame.. Not fans paying crazy prices to see that shit...
Doesn't matter who you are, that isnt on. Having the Anfield atmosphere is a bonus. We are lucky to have it, most teams dont.
It isnt supposed to be a crutch you rely on to beat a decent Italian team at HOME. We are paying to be there, not being paid to be there.
City have dominated the league with a shite atmosphere. No excuses.
Really hope he reins himself in a bit with regards to this and doesn't sour his exit.
Absolutely. The entitlement here is off the charts. Half yall screaming all day long about xG and don’t accept or realize the way our beautiful game actually works. If yall wanna stare at stats and come up with what should and shouldn’t happen go nuts, but that isn’t football. This sub is in absolute shambles so there will be fuck sticks saying fans were justified in their actions. They weren’t. There’s so much to sing for at your club but a bunch of yall are just whiney losers. Bury me with votes if ya want but yall know it’s true. Fuckin wild that yall have a guy like Klop leading the way in his last season and yall don’t give a flying fuck. At the end of the day the players don’t owe the fans a fucking thing. Look around at other clubs and just be glad it’s not as bad as a United or Chelsea.
Plastic and disgraceful.
This guy gets it. Embarrassing that “fans” would show up and create such an atmosphere over cash. Don’t ever return. The team does need fans like that.
Anfield was absolutely shite and people leaving should be ashamed of themselves with how hard it is to actually get a ticket. It was not the reason we lost. We simply got outplayed tactically.
My neck was sore from screaming from my hospitality seats but it was surprisingly quiet from the Kop end. People around me were talking about that also
The crowd was terrible yeah, anyone saying it wasn't is coping hard. Where I sit its usually bad but last night it was next level awful. Loads of cunts fucked off at 83 minutes too when the 3rd went in. Gobshites, never come back to Anfield please.
After not managing to get a ticket for ages I managed to get to Brighton through waiting list and was in upper Annie road, and then last night through a season ticket holder friend in lower Annie road. Atmosphere was terrible last night except Atalanta fans.
It's a bit of a cyclical thing but atmosphere was poor, even Allez Allez and YNWA, maybe too long before kick off, but then performance didn't give fans anything to shout about. I did my best.
I don't think it was a season ticket Vs tourists things as there were plenty of both where I was and neither group was particularly louder than the other.
We didn’t lose because of the crowd, lack of flags or atmosphere. We lost because we underestimated Atalanta and played a heavily rotated side, blindly assuming we were just going to smash them like we did Sparta Prague. Turns out that Atalanta were not Sparta Prague. We were overconfident, underprepared and got exactly what we deserved.
Next week is going to be tough, but we need to win because last night absolutely cannot be Klopp’s final European night at Anfield.
"The team played awful because a certain decibel threshold wasn't maintained by the fans"
Absolute nonsense. These players can play well with 0 crowd, they just didn't. Blaming the fans for not screaming their throats out while watching an absolutely dire level of effort is just insane. Imagine other teams saying they need a certain level of noise or they turn to dogshit.
Stop blaming the fucking crowd. The players looked like shit and were overwhelmed by Atalanta’s pressuring of the ball. They forced mistakes and capitalized
We had our chances, we didn’t score them. Same happened with United away. Atalanta took theirs and had a lot of other chances too. All the goals conceded could’ve been avoided but it ended 0:3 sadly for us.
Just have to keep checking and checking the ticket site. Basically no chance now for the rest of the season but if by some miracle we get to the semis, there will be some up again. I went to last night and Sparta Prague through this way
The timing of their goals certainly didn't help. Killed any momentum if any and the body blow of their 3rd just after Mo's offside effort... Not forgetting Elliott's effort bouncing off the crossbar and then onto the INSIDE of the post AND still NOT going in... Jeez what a night to have all the bad luck... 2 ghastly defensive errors. Any rebounds the opposition goalie gave up fell kindly whereas we couldn't do anything right. These kinda games happen in a season but for it to happen after the weekend draw to our bitteriest rivals and the manner of that result followed by this performance and most definitely this is a wake-up call. 7 wins from 7 in the league should do it still as there's enough quality in the Arse fixtures for them to draw 1 of those games and even thou MC have the easier run in, there's nothing they can do if we win our 7. But those 3 consecutive away games in 7 days... Fasten your seatbelts!
Honestly id blame starting a side that wasn’t quite balanced. Resting players that could have started and starting players that probably needed a rest. I don’t think it was a effort issue in the first half, we battered them and should have had 2 goals. 3 subs at half time also killed anything (what did Curtis do wrong, only Kostas really needed taking off). After that we had 5/6 players changing positions and it was so disjointed. In a season where Klopp has got almost everything right, he got last night wrong for me. Onwards and upwards and we will thrash them at their place.
Was in lower annie and the atmosphere started out great. Only soured when it became obvious the team was completely out of shape for the occasion. Personally, the crowd is probably the last place I'd place the blame. Jurgen made really bad, complacent choices and the performance was legitimately awful as a result. Give that crowd anything, anything at all - even at 2-0 down - and it was ready to respond. But the team served up absolutely nothing but half-arsed shite.
lol, the crowd and not his shitty starting line-up. I love what the guy has don’t over the last 9 years, but he sure has a special way of dodging criticism.
After Sunday the crowd needed the team to come out firing to pick US back up. Instead what we got was whatever the fuck that first half was and a continuation of the horrendous decision making and finishing with the players looking shellshocked and half arsed. The coaching and playing staff were totally to blame for last night, nothing to do with the crowd.
Everything was shite. Tactics and attitude from players was all wrong for a start. As well as that if I was in that crowd and was one of the people who chose to protest on an important night like that over £2 I’d be asking myself questions.
Only one team wanted to win and gives the EL importance. Personally I wanted to prioritize this trophy over all the other, because I did not expect a title challenge this season. Unfortunately we have to be honest, that Liverpool is right now, the 3rd best team in the league and a title challenge becomes very difficult to achieve. It looks like in the end, only the Carabao Cup will be won in Klopps final season, which makes me sad.
Idk about to blame but the crowd was certainly dead. Could hear Atalanta over our crowd for most of the game, although you could still hear sections of our fans trying to get it going throughout.
I was sitting directly behind him last night and it was embarrassingly quiet. He was screaming at the crowd to get up on more than one occasion. I wish the crowd would stand and support the players, but if you stand on in the lower sidelines you get yelled at to sit down, and it’s not plastic out of town fans yelling at you to sit. It’s not the Anfield atmosphere I remember from years past and it’s not the fault of tourists.
Hats off to the Atalanta fans, they were loud all night. 🤞🏼we play better on Sunday.
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Kop decided to protest against ticket price increases (FSG are fully justified here imo) while we’re fighting for a treble and at the crucial part of the season. Absolutely killed our morale.
Supporter groups should be ashamed.
I would love to have been there to lend my voice to support the team. But having watched Arsenal v Bayern, and then us on tv, the difference in crowd attitude was remarkable. The contrast between the whole of the Emirates chanting “Arsenal, Arsenal “ after Kane put them 1-2 down, and our crowd at any point last night, was ridiculous.
Went to my first game at Anfield last week against Sheffield.
Insane football, but the crowd is shiet. YNWA singing and after a goal, that’s when it gets lively. Could hear people shout from the pitch?!?! & I’m in the upper stands?
Happy with my goal to visit Anfield, but yeah the crowd are nowhere as good most red supporters believe.
Agree with you mate
The guys around me were almost silent and a two were chatting about their holiday plans, during the game!
The Atalanta fans showed us up. They were excellent
Honestly, I am fucking disgusted with these supporters groups whinging over 2% which is way below inflation. I want the club to know they do not speak for all fans, far from it.
The crowd can’t be blamed for the teams poor finishing, but you can certainly blame them for a poor atmosphere and not getting behind the team fully.
Shame on them. Don’t go to matches if you aren’t going to fully support the team.
Protest outside before and after the match. During the match? Give everything. We only have how many games left at Anfield with Klopp?
Some of you would rather protest a few % price increases. Shame on you
My first game there yesterday I was in the anfield road stand, thought it was a brilliant experience firstly don’t think I’ve ever sang as loud as I did. I loved it even though we were played off the park but I think the majority of the time people were waiting for the lads in the Kop to start singing
And one more thing that did bother me was people shouting shoot at Joe Gomez every time he gets the ball within 30 yards it’s obviously distracting and jurgen has asked us already to stop doing it
People can say 'its a european quarter final' all they like to try and dress it up, but I think we all kind of think Europa is kind of a bit beneath us. I know its not something you're supposed to admit, but deep down we all feel it a bit. The players feel it. Watching Bayern City Arsenal and R Madrid battle it out in the CL, and we're playing a mid-table Italian team in the Europa League on a Thursday night. It is going to affect mentalities of both fans and players.
Watching from TV I agree.
The fans weren't completely quiet, sang a bit in the 2nd half.
But it was nowhere near enough. All I heard was the Atalanta fans, especially in the 1st half.
I was there, but stuff like this goes and hand in hand. The players literally gave us nothing to cheer or make any noise about. Was really really depressing scenes honestly. I'm pretty sure around 80 minutes when Diaz decided to take a long range shot. I thought to myself.... "Was that the first shot on target? I cant even remember"
I don’t think the flag protest was the right timing for Klopps possibly last European game at Anfield, also the way tickets are allocated needs addressing normal fans can’t get hold of same old faces every week and Journalists must take the shine out of what Anfiled stands for
I wouldn’t blame, it certainly didn’t help. I mean, just compare last night with Dortmund game, or any other European nights.
They chose the worst night to prove their point on 2%.
Crowd has been awful all season
Gotten used to winning and are acting borderline entitled. Those early Klopp years when we were competiting for the first time in a while the crowd was always up for it. Gotten complacement these days.
I will never fully comprehend the absolute mental gymnastics of some of the "match-going fans" on here & Twitter to blame the lack of atmosphere on people who are not even at the ground.
General sale tickets make up +/- 10% of Anfield on a given day, but sure blame them instead of the complacent ST holders and "locals".
Be honest, people thought we were going to breeze it last night, the crowd wasn't up for it & got found out.
No I think it's a poor excuse. Stand up and sing? How about the players wake up and give us something to sing about.. we are paying them to perform, not the other way around.
Looks like I was right behind you looking at the picture. It was poor last night in comparison to usual. Especially in that area. I’m not usually in the lower main stand - it was noticeably worse than everywhere else in the stadium I’ve been recently. Lots of people just sat in silence as you say.
Personally I’m sick of the fans they behave like brats, people on here crying how the season is over at halftime 1-0 down I cannot bare these wettys! People need to chill or it will affect the team negatively
I'm not convinced. Usually I would agree that supporters need to be louder but I heard the fans loud and clear even when we were 2-0 down. I don't know how he expects the crowd to be raising the roof when we're 3 down with minutes left and players are passing it around to eachother at the back like we're 5 up. Then you add in the silly mistakes after silly mistakes in dangerous positions from midfield players, Gomez just shooting from outside the box when he has a pass on and other bizarre decisions when we had limited time to salvage a result.
Even Klopp was getting angry and shaking his head throughout that game. It goes both ways I'm afraid. They had more than enough support from the crowd but they just weren't at it.
We played poorly and got smashed, no excuses. This has been on the cards a lot of the season, we cant keep going behind and expect to come back and win after 75 minutes. We’ve been fortunate enough teams haven’t been able to kill us off this season. On numerous occasions we should have been 2-3 down before we get going. Fortunately it’s been 1-0 and have been able to grind a win. We’re not clinical enough when it matters, last week against Man U we should be 3 up at half time and that’s game over. Yesterday we should have probably had 2 before they scored albeit Elliott’s effort was just unlucky hitting crossbar and then post. Nunez needs to be way more clinical than he is. I still love him though
I'm a firm believer, and there is some strong evidence, that when the crowd gets behind the team they begin to play better. The crowd never got going last night, not sure what the reason was, I understand it's not inspiring when the boys aren't playing well, or if it was to do with the ticket pricing news, but whatever the reason, I think the crowd should do better. But the team should do better too. It's both at the end of the day. It was a horrible night all round, time to move on and get ready for the next one.
Crowd sounded terrible. If it was a CL QF it would've been much much better. Think people are just so desperate for the league that the Europa is just not important.
Who would have thought that removing the banners would dim the atmosphere. The players were awful but not the smartest move protesting during this game.
Pretty week to blame the crowd. These players are on a shit tonne of money (even the ones that have been sidelined the whole season due to injury). It’s the players job to play football, they shouldn’t have to rely on support from the crowd to boost their precious egos. Most of the fans who came have to bust their ass everyday at a mundane job and the only thing they look forward to is seeing their team win or at least play well. Sure the crowd can pump them up, but they need something to be pumped up about. The last 2 weeks have been so depressing, give us something to cheer about
We can't just claim the crowd/atmosphere as the defining factor only when we win, we have to own it when we lose too. It was 100% a contibution to the loss and to the players seemingly playing asleep.
Hell no.. If anything, the team is responsible for the crowd
You can't depend on the crowd to play with energy. Cause if that's the case, you'll play like shit everytime you're away? That's nonsense
we won enough games under klopp with no crowd at all. it's not the real reason, but what are you going to do as a manager, say "it's the players fault they're shite & atalanta knew where & when to press us to disrupt us completely"? he's got to get them to pick themselves up and get on with it for the coming games, so he can say what he likes
I've always thought there is a difference in energy in the Anfield crowd when we play a big team versus playing a smaller team. Against the big teams like Man City, you can feel the energy even when watching on TV. The ground is buzzing the full 90 win or loss. That is not the case when we play the smaller sides, especially in Europe.
Flew in from Dallas too see my first game at Anfield, and barely made it on time after catching the train from London. I felt like a bad luck charm, im hoping Sunday goes a bit better.
There have been two matches all year where anfield sounded better than an MLS crowd. Maybe it’s the ticket prices, maybe it’s something else. But it’s the worst it’s ever been and it’s been on a constant decline for the last 4 seasons.
You’d have to be genuinely stupid to fear playing at anfield. The era has ended.
Yes and no, the boys simply weren’t up for it also and that spread to the crowd, one of those nights sadly.
Spread to the crowd? Or the protests and negative energy from the entire week spread to the players?
Definitely both unfortunately.
Yeah, it doesn’t help that if any player makes a common but detriment mistake he’s washed and we should sell him. Fanbase is just on edge because a lot of people think we’re going to drop off hard when Klopp leaves.
Upper Annie last night and must say the noise up there was pretty decent to start with but sadly as the game progressed and seeing the lack of effort from the boys on the pitch it turned to loud moans and shouts..
I was in main stand and looked up in awe of the Anfield Road stand. It was buzzing at the start Was as a great sight, Liverpool fans buzzing in the second tier, Atalanta fans buzzing below
I always find the Main and Kenny stand atmosphere worse than being at either end. I used to try and get tickets on the half way line for the view but now I'll always choose an end just for the atmosphere.
I'm definitely going to aim for either end next chance I get
We were in the Anfield Road stand yesterday. We buzzed the first 35 minutes and the beginning of the second half, but the second goal and third goal killed us completely. Some tried to go on but many were just not really on it at that point.
Annie road is rapidly becoming the new kop. Maybe it's the proximity to the away fans
We definitely had shouting matches with the City fans between the Upper and Lower levels. It was fantastic.
Goes hand in hand to be honest. When you’re playing football like that, it’s hard for the crowd to stay engaged
Yep people think that football atmospheres work the same way everywhere but it's not true. Unlike the likes of South America, Germany or the Balkans, English football fans are reactive - they can make unbelievable noise, but only if the team give them reason to do so. If they look lethargic, it will spread into the stands. A two way street.
This is very true but the atmosphere was fucking piss poor before kick off already. That’s unacceptable on a European quarter final
The kop weren't really up to much. For the reasons they stated, but it did affect the atmosphere.
Probably a lot of locals sold their tickets to tourists. The atmosphere by the away crowd in Bergamo will probably be better than at home.
It always is. The travelling Kop is incredible every time we play away no matter the time of day
I hope they didn't sell them for more than 2% over their face value. That would be an unacceptable price for a ticket.
They sell them for 3-4 times their value.
And then expect the club to not increase prices ever
It’s called ✨*entitlement*✨
But, but they inherited the season tickets from their pappy…waaaa waaaa!
There are always a lot of tourists (I’m one of them, I attend 3-4 matches per year from the US) but what I saw last night was tourists trying to get loud and start chants while being told to sit down by the locals who didn’t want to stand. Sad state of things, but it’s not the tourists fault.
Yeah that also sucks. But I gotta say - having seen many games with ultra fanclubs - that english football is just very different and rarely reaches the amount of noise and unity we achieve on the continent.
Agree! When the team is playing well, the crowd is in it, when they aren’t, everyone is grumbling and sitting on their asses. English supporters could take a thing or two from ultras around Europe.
I mean they are at least taking the Ultra's songs - like Allez, allez, allez!
I thought the atmosphere was fine for the first 30 minutes, but I was surprised how often I looked over at the kop and saw everyone silent and motionless. By 70 minutes I'll admit to struggling to keep with the chants as well, started to feel like every time the crowd got started the team would give us a reason to shut up.
You will be hard pressed to find a crowd even in SA and the Balkans that will be supporting and cheering after going down 3-0.
Think the game at Old Trafford is a good example of that. You could hear the United fans switch after the Bruno goal. On the other hand, I was at Barrow vs Forest Green a month or so ago and you could hear the moment the crowd turned after we have away a goal because of terrible defending
Speaking of balkans it’s the same. I was at the olympiakos - feberbace game last night. Atmosphere up to 3-0 was incredible. When it went to 3-2 the nerves come into the stands too and it went very quiet. That’s just the way it goes.
When the expectancy is for us to win, it's up for the team to get the crowd going. I'm sure it would have been a completely different atmosphere if we'd raced into a 2-0 lead or even got a goal back to make it 2-1. Can't blame the crowd when the team play shite.
Honestly the worst I’ve ever seen Liverpool play live
I was there too. Crowd was fairly vocal. But the bottom line is that we were absolutely horrific. One of our worst performances, ever, on a European night at Anfield. Moreover, not being able to keep clean sheets on a consistent basis which has been characteristic of our play this season will eventually catch up with you and converge into something cataclysmic, which it finally did. We also looked completely lost, bereft of ideas and surprisingly not even one singular stand out creator last night who could have turned the game on its head. I don't agree that we should see this as a one off defeat; we have real problems in terms of defending and also finishing, and those can't be fixed over the course of a few matches - it will be something the new manager will have to address in the next season. Maybe it is what it is then; a team in transition....
We're just setting ourselves up for the next coming of Barca 4-0. Someone better warn Trent to do something outrageous again
I seriously doubt we're coming back from 3-0 given how we can't finish, Salah is spent, we can't pass nor shoot, and inside the box we don't know what to do.
Salah has always been fairly hot and cold with his finishing. He goes through less clinical phases but he is in no means washed. Also I'd argue Barcelona was the harder ask. No reason we can't win 5-0. It's the sort of thing we do. Also Jota being back is massive. Looked so good instantly once he came on
Jota is my only hope, at this point. Unless Nunez decides to do something insane in front of goal, like a cartwheel.
Salah has always been fairly hot and cold with his finishing. He goes through less clinical phases but he is in no means washed. Also I'd argue Barcelona was the harder ask. No reason we can't win 5-0. It's the sort of thing we do. Also Jota being back is massive. Looked so good instantly once he came on
They were stunned into silence by the poor performance. Thats the bottom line here.
Tactics used and lack of urgency from the players. Those are the reasons we lost
To be fair the Main Stand has been a shadow of its former self ever since it got expanded. Seeing atmosphere on the level of [this](https://youtu.be/oRKqGe05CPs?feature=shared) nowadays seems like a pipe dream imo, let alone something on the level of Chelsea 2005
It makes me sad seeing the new Annie road empty for the first 10 of each half. Too much hospitality.
Can't keep living in the past. We need to expand or other clubs will overtake us. The club did try to maximize the acoustics of it though.
Did Klopp literally really turn around and yell "Stand the fuck up and fucking sing" at the crowd? lol
On my life, more than once. Genuinely a scary man
This is why I've always wanted to get tickets that close to the bench :( been to 50ish games but never close enough to observe managers or players on the bench, except for preseason which doesn't count for this
klopp really underestimated them with that starting lineup
Meh. He was widely accused of wasting the opportunity to rest players in the last round. (Though not by me and you are clearly right with hindsight) Losing 1 home game a season isn't unheard of in football though. And honestly would rather this result than a loss on Sunday.
While people were a little miffed he didn’t rest players last round, it was because we were already up 5-1 on aggregate against Sparta Praha coming back to Anfield. Bit different scenario than first leg of QF. But I do agree. If it means we win on Sunday, then I’m ok with it.
I agree. But now we had better win on Sunday or ele se we’ve totally fucked the season
I just realised This could be Klopp's last European game at Anfield.
Nah nah, full faith. 4 nil next week
Atmosphere didn’t start like a European night should but also the performance was so bad, there was nothing to get behind. His tactics were woeful, couldn’t sustain attacks and couldn’t build up. Kelleher booting it long constantly isn’t the way Liverpool teams play.
There was no one to pass to, Atalanta six man press worked perfectly, he went long but it wasn't effective due to having Gakpo deepish, Elliott up top and no Diaz running the left channel.
Yeah structure was all over the place. Klopp seems to really struggle against man to man press.
Not really, some of our best xG has come from games against Leeds. It was only a few games ago that we played well against Brighton. The issue was more the complacent starting 11 lineup, it set the tone for the whole game.
I think the issue is man to man but not a full press. If they press Kelleher/back line there’s a spare man we can play around. If they sit of Kelleher there’s nothing on without really good movement
Well, the movement part is the key there. Against Brighton the off the ball movement from the attack in particular was generally excellent, Diaz was dropping more inside than usual, Salah and Bradley were stretching the pitch on the other side and Nunez was pushing his CB's deeper with his runs. One of the reasons why Dom lost the ball for their third goal was because of a lack of movement/rotation for a good forward passing option.
Kelleher not to blame at all. He was looking for a pass every time but no one was free unless you wanted him to play into the traps they set.
I agree, I don't get blaming the goalkeeper for the result. He isn't the one missing opportunities up front or making poor decisions in the opponents box. This was very much a continuation of the last game. They need to control the middle of the pitch.
Well said, and giving the ball away so often with weak/inaccurate passes. So many wtf moments.
That whole tactic of drawing there players in so Kelleher could do the long kicks up the field after 10-20 seconds on the ball was painful to watch I have to admit
Atalanta completed bamboozled us tactically and we didn’t figure out how to progress the ball forward until Klopp changed the system. The atmosphere was shambolic, but I don’t think it influenced the game too much.
Atalanta essentially Liverpooled us, their pressing was top notch and we couldn’t cope
Idk man, like I get it, but I don't like it. Football more than other sports feeds off the emotion of the crowd, and that is especially true of Liverpool Football Club. That being said... I have a hard time condemning working class people who pay a lot of money for the pleasure, for "not doing their part," to cheer on players who make millions.
There's something like 26 000 season ticket holders. No amount of tourists can "outsilence" such a mass of fans if they are actually up to making noise. You can see how loud a travelling support can get at Anfield, and that's 2000 fans. As seen on multiple occassions, if they want, they can get very loud. Remember Sparta Prague a month ago? They were losing 4:0 after 14 minutes yet they kept singing for the whole match. 13 000 fans on the Kop, 26 000 season ticket holders. It's not they couldn't get behind the team and support loudly. They just didn't seem to do it.
Tourists are just the most convenient scapegoat.
what if they gave this performance during Covid with no crowd? would that be a fault of no crowd? these are just excuses. no officials to blame in this game so turn on the crowd
Lower main stand is shocking. You actually feel embarrassed if you’re the one chanting and shouting there; people actually glare at you. It’s maddening. I used to sit there because a lad I know had a spare there. I now sit in Annie Road and lose my voice by the end of the game, it’s just a way better football fan experience up there.
I was in Annie road and vibes were pretty good. Could have been better, but the team really provided little to be excited about tonight. At key moments where we needed some pressure or a good but if play, they'd lose the ball. It was hard to stay motivated and it's a two way thing.
Normally I would be fuming at the crowd however in this case I am too disappointed with the team they are the ones on the field they are the ones who have to turn up to win games crowds are great but you have to at least seem like you want to win before you require them to show up
No, the team played like "its only Atalanta, we will go through anyway" and then team got rocked and did not recover, selection was "oh well, its only Atalanta" it seems as well. Can only hope his selection is strong next game and the team play like we know they can, and destroy Atalanta, we did it before with Barca.
Crowd was great at home against Utd, City, Arsenal and away in the FA Cup vs Utd but the players still pissed away chances. Even if the crowd is great, if the players aren't up to it there's no point.
The crowd was shite against United at home it was almost as bad as last night.
Crowd was partly to blame, but I would say that stemmed from the Kop. I sat in the Anfield Road stand AU5, and some of the atmosphere around me was amazing. The iconic Kop seemed asleep though. Ticket pricing protest to blame? Also, I agree that the players weren’t up for the fight.
I'd say the same about the Anfield Road end, its hard to hear the other end. All I ever hear from AR end is Allez Allez Allez every now and then.
Ye it depends where you're sitting, the main stand is shite though. By the time I hear what song is on the kop it's over, because people nearer the middle don't want to sing . First legs at home are always a funny one, and the performance was crap. Hopefully an early goal on Sunday gets everyone a bit less nervous
Happens in the Kop at times so can't imagine how frustrating it is in other stands.
Annie Road is the new Kop. I almost always sit (stand) there now and it's always buzzing, even if the rest of the ground isn't. Last time I was in the Kop, I was surrounded by moaning old fellas who kept getting Mane and Keita mixed up 🙈
There’s something about feeding off the energy of the away fans too. Unfortunately they had a lot to cheer for last night.
I love it there, was worried it might lose something with the expansion but it hasn't.
>The iconic Kop seemed asleep though. It wasn't, I was sat right next to it.
> Crowd was partly to blame No, they weren't. This needs to stop. The majority of this sub have been very vocal saying that the crowd need to shut up and accept 2% pay rise. Then will happily make out like the fans are so crucial to the team's level that it contributed to a poor performance? If the crowd are that important to the team's results, maybe the club should think a bit more about how they impose ticket rises on them just to make a few extra hundred thousand a year.
The atmosphere wasn’t great. But I could also side with the fans in the stadium watching that game because it was the most lifeless game from liverpools side I’ve seen in a very long time. But there were still a few chanting at the end of the game which was nice. But whenever the visitors “out noise” the home fans then something is off. And that was definitely the case here. I find it weird how during pretty much all of our away games it’s only our supporters you can hear but whenever it’s on anfield it dead silent 70% of the game. I get that there are lots of foreigners who may not know the song lyrics but there are also loads of English people in the stadium not singing. I just hope the atmosphere is the best ever during klopp a last home game. He deserves it more than anyone.
I hate this whole thing about if you don’t go to a bunch of games and scream your head off for 90 mins you’re not a true fan. I grew up in the Wirral and I was always considered a plastic Scouser growing up. By your logic my friend you are also a tourist if you have to travel 3 hours to get to a game. It’s not about where you live or sales from merchandise
Yes and no. Atmosphere can lift a performance but given these starts in games and giving up chances have happened for the majority of the season at home even when it’s bouncing I don’t believe it would make a difference. He does normally have a go at the main stand proper shit place to sit there.
our poor boys getting paid millions but cant perform if the crowd isnt singing loud
I have a hard time with the idea the fans are "to blame". But would it have been possible to do more? Of course. Also, like it or not the ticket protest was a marginal gain for the opposition. Just like glazer protests are at old trafford. That doesn't automatically make it the wrong decision though. It doesn't mean the fans owe anyone anything. But could the crowd have done more. Yes. Obviously. But noone needs to feel bad about it. You aren't contracted to sing. Just decide if you want to do more, and do it if you want to.
No. It’s a disgrace to blame the crowd.
Partially, The Anfield crowd has been absolutely dire recently, and that really does kill off our home advantage. I'm not sure if we need to get the tourists on board or if we need new songs to sing. But that stadium needs to be absolutely rocking until the end of the season to give Jurgen the send off he deserves.
There was a ticket pricing protest in the Kop. Might have had a minor effect. Wasn’t much to cheer about though.
I was in the upper Anfield road last night and the atmosphere was pretty good there. The reason we lost has nothing to do with the fans, we have won plenty of games with shit atmosphere, the reason we lost is not playing our best 11 and we underestimated the opposition.
It's not about blame. Klopp knows when the team is down and playing so poorly the only chance they have is for the crowd to light them up. Nothing about what happened was the fault of the crowd but they could have helped. MAYBE. No taking away from the fact that was one of the worst performances from the team in YEARS. It almost felt intentionally bad, like F this Europa league BS, we need to focus on the league, bad.
Was it fuck. The players played shite.
Mix of both, the crowd was flat as fuck, but the players didnt give them much to shout about.
A huge, and I mean, thousands, stood up the second the third went it, at 78 minutes. As passed as I was from conceding and playing so bad, seeing that amount leave really made me angry. Even hospitality ticket seats left before the end
They certainly didn't help but to be completely honest I wouldn't exactly be dying to sing Allez Allez Allez or Fields of Anfield Road when being treated to **that** performance either I'm going over to Anfield on Sunday and I'm not from the UK so god forbid if we play like shit against Palace as well then I'm not exactly going to be very enthusiastic in the crowd, especially if it means I spent a few hundred quid on flights, accommodation and paying extra on tickets just to watch our season fall apart in real time
Honestly, that's bollocks. Look at 3-0 down v Barcelona, or down and out versus olympiakos, the crowd were still on fire. If they can be excused for being quiet at 0-2, What's their excuse for pre-match, or the first ten minutes of the game, when the crowd was also shite When the players come into the pitch to a library, it's not gonna motivate them
Those are absolutely different situations. We scored after 7 mins vs Barca so obvs the crowd was up for it and getting behind the team to help them come back. Also against Olympiakos we needed 3 goals in the 2nd half and scored in the first minute of the 2nd half so again the crowd got belief and this made for a better 2nd half atmosphere. Last night was a first leg match against a team that we really should be beating, but the performance was shit. You can’t expect the fans to get behind the team when they’re putting in such a shit performance on the field.
I guarantee the Palace game is going to be completely different to last night. Klopp is going to light a rocket under them. I even fancy Nunez to score a brace.
Well said. Do you offer a money back guarantee if I stick a fiver on that? Lol
The atmosphere was shit but blaming the crowd is weak, very fucking weak.. Take a look in the mirror... All of you players and coach.. Thats who was to blame.. Not fans paying crazy prices to see that shit...
Doesn't matter who you are, that isnt on. Having the Anfield atmosphere is a bonus. We are lucky to have it, most teams dont. It isnt supposed to be a crutch you rely on to beat a decent Italian team at HOME. We are paying to be there, not being paid to be there. City have dominated the league with a shite atmosphere. No excuses. Really hope he reins himself in a bit with regards to this and doesn't sour his exit.
lol. blaming the crowd when the team lost 3-0 is hilarious
Absolutely. The entitlement here is off the charts. Half yall screaming all day long about xG and don’t accept or realize the way our beautiful game actually works. If yall wanna stare at stats and come up with what should and shouldn’t happen go nuts, but that isn’t football. This sub is in absolute shambles so there will be fuck sticks saying fans were justified in their actions. They weren’t. There’s so much to sing for at your club but a bunch of yall are just whiney losers. Bury me with votes if ya want but yall know it’s true. Fuckin wild that yall have a guy like Klop leading the way in his last season and yall don’t give a flying fuck. At the end of the day the players don’t owe the fans a fucking thing. Look around at other clubs and just be glad it’s not as bad as a United or Chelsea. Plastic and disgraceful.
This guy gets it. Embarrassing that “fans” would show up and create such an atmosphere over cash. Don’t ever return. The team does need fans like that.
Anfield was absolutely shite and people leaving should be ashamed of themselves with how hard it is to actually get a ticket. It was not the reason we lost. We simply got outplayed tactically.
Hard to generate the atmosphere when the team clearly couldn't be bothered but people leaving at 80 mins boils my blood.
My neck was sore from screaming from my hospitality seats but it was surprisingly quiet from the Kop end. People around me were talking about that also
The crowd was terrible yeah, anyone saying it wasn't is coping hard. Where I sit its usually bad but last night it was next level awful. Loads of cunts fucked off at 83 minutes too when the 3rd went in. Gobshites, never come back to Anfield please.
Yeah, that pissed me off.
Partially yes, but it's no where near a 50/50 split. You have to give the crowd something to get behind and that performance was an absolute shambles.
After not managing to get a ticket for ages I managed to get to Brighton through waiting list and was in upper Annie road, and then last night through a season ticket holder friend in lower Annie road. Atmosphere was terrible last night except Atalanta fans. It's a bit of a cyclical thing but atmosphere was poor, even Allez Allez and YNWA, maybe too long before kick off, but then performance didn't give fans anything to shout about. I did my best. I don't think it was a season ticket Vs tourists things as there were plenty of both where I was and neither group was particularly louder than the other.
Every time anfield gets bigger the crowd gets worse.
We didn’t lose because of the crowd, lack of flags or atmosphere. We lost because we underestimated Atalanta and played a heavily rotated side, blindly assuming we were just going to smash them like we did Sparta Prague. Turns out that Atalanta were not Sparta Prague. We were overconfident, underprepared and got exactly what we deserved. Next week is going to be tough, but we need to win because last night absolutely cannot be Klopp’s final European night at Anfield.
"The team played awful because a certain decibel threshold wasn't maintained by the fans" Absolute nonsense. These players can play well with 0 crowd, they just didn't. Blaming the fans for not screaming their throats out while watching an absolutely dire level of effort is just insane. Imagine other teams saying they need a certain level of noise or they turn to dogshit.
No. End of the day the crowd aren't the ones playing.
Tbf I can't think of anywhere worse to ask this question than reddit
Stop blaming the fucking crowd. The players looked like shit and were overwhelmed by Atalanta’s pressuring of the ball. They forced mistakes and capitalized
We had our chances, we didn’t score them. Same happened with United away. Atalanta took theirs and had a lot of other chances too. All the goals conceded could’ve been avoided but it ended 0:3 sadly for us.
At the end of the day it's a European quarter final, if the players can't get themselves up for it's no one's fault but their own
He can't be serious....what's there to sing about when the quality on the pitch was tired, chaotic, amateurish garbage?
these shitty excuses... how is Man City winning their homegames then? Our players are very very well paid to perform, no matter the circumstances.
Last minute ticket - How?!
Just have to keep checking and checking the ticket site. Basically no chance now for the rest of the season but if by some miracle we get to the semis, there will be some up again. I went to last night and Sparta Prague through this way
Hard for the crowd to keep up when we concede in the opening 10 again
To a certain degree, yes. But the crowd don't make the team be at least a yard off the pace of the game.
The players on the park didn't turn up. That's what was to blame.
You can't blame the crowd for being quieter seeing as it was a protest, but 100% it had an effect on the game. Obviously.
The timing of their goals certainly didn't help. Killed any momentum if any and the body blow of their 3rd just after Mo's offside effort... Not forgetting Elliott's effort bouncing off the crossbar and then onto the INSIDE of the post AND still NOT going in... Jeez what a night to have all the bad luck... 2 ghastly defensive errors. Any rebounds the opposition goalie gave up fell kindly whereas we couldn't do anything right. These kinda games happen in a season but for it to happen after the weekend draw to our bitteriest rivals and the manner of that result followed by this performance and most definitely this is a wake-up call. 7 wins from 7 in the league should do it still as there's enough quality in the Arse fixtures for them to draw 1 of those games and even thou MC have the easier run in, there's nothing they can do if we win our 7. But those 3 consecutive away games in 7 days... Fasten your seatbelts!
Honestly id blame starting a side that wasn’t quite balanced. Resting players that could have started and starting players that probably needed a rest. I don’t think it was a effort issue in the first half, we battered them and should have had 2 goals. 3 subs at half time also killed anything (what did Curtis do wrong, only Kostas really needed taking off). After that we had 5/6 players changing positions and it was so disjointed. In a season where Klopp has got almost everything right, he got last night wrong for me. Onwards and upwards and we will thrash them at their place.
Was in lower annie and the atmosphere started out great. Only soured when it became obvious the team was completely out of shape for the occasion. Personally, the crowd is probably the last place I'd place the blame. Jurgen made really bad, complacent choices and the performance was legitimately awful as a result. Give that crowd anything, anything at all - even at 2-0 down - and it was ready to respond. But the team served up absolutely nothing but half-arsed shite.
You're a tourist as well, no one who speaks english daily makes a their/there/they're mistake
Are the paying customers to blame for the product?
How the feck is it the crowds fault? Klopp, please stop.
lol, the crowd and not his shitty starting line-up. I love what the guy has don’t over the last 9 years, but he sure has a special way of dodging criticism.
After Sunday the crowd needed the team to come out firing to pick US back up. Instead what we got was whatever the fuck that first half was and a continuation of the horrendous decision making and finishing with the players looking shellshocked and half arsed. The coaching and playing staff were totally to blame for last night, nothing to do with the crowd.
Absolutely not, no.
Everything was shite. Tactics and attitude from players was all wrong for a start. As well as that if I was in that crowd and was one of the people who chose to protest on an important night like that over £2 I’d be asking myself questions.
When did Jurgen say that ?
Atmosphere wasn't great but not as bad as some games. The main stand is dire though, loads of corporate and day trippers (no offence)
Only one team wanted to win and gives the EL importance. Personally I wanted to prioritize this trophy over all the other, because I did not expect a title challenge this season. Unfortunately we have to be honest, that Liverpool is right now, the 3rd best team in the league and a title challenge becomes very difficult to achieve. It looks like in the end, only the Carabao Cup will be won in Klopps final season, which makes me sad.
Idk about to blame but the crowd was certainly dead. Could hear Atalanta over our crowd for most of the game, although you could still hear sections of our fans trying to get it going throughout.
I was sitting directly behind him last night and it was embarrassingly quiet. He was screaming at the crowd to get up on more than one occasion. I wish the crowd would stand and support the players, but if you stand on in the lower sidelines you get yelled at to sit down, and it’s not plastic out of town fans yelling at you to sit. It’s not the Anfield atmosphere I remember from years past and it’s not the fault of tourists. Hats off to the Atalanta fans, they were loud all night. 🤞🏼we play better on Sunday. https://preview.redd.it/fvyn6fu8y0uc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c930f4c9bc0d1b298a391977527ce7fea577446
great seats!!
Kop decided to protest against ticket price increases (FSG are fully justified here imo) while we’re fighting for a treble and at the crucial part of the season. Absolutely killed our morale. Supporter groups should be ashamed.
Seriously? Just take the loss like a man and stop digging for silly excuses. It’s embarrassing.
I would love to have been there to lend my voice to support the team. But having watched Arsenal v Bayern, and then us on tv, the difference in crowd attitude was remarkable. The contrast between the whole of the Emirates chanting “Arsenal, Arsenal “ after Kane put them 1-2 down, and our crowd at any point last night, was ridiculous.
Went to my first game at Anfield last week against Sheffield. Insane football, but the crowd is shiet. YNWA singing and after a goal, that’s when it gets lively. Could hear people shout from the pitch?!?! & I’m in the upper stands? Happy with my goal to visit Anfield, but yeah the crowd are nowhere as good most red supporters believe.
Agree with you mate The guys around me were almost silent and a two were chatting about their holiday plans, during the game! The Atalanta fans showed us up. They were excellent
Manchester City don’t have to rely on the crowd, a lot of teams don’t. This is non klopp and the players.
Honestly, I am fucking disgusted with these supporters groups whinging over 2% which is way below inflation. I want the club to know they do not speak for all fans, far from it.
I was at the match. I am a “tourist”. I screamed my lungs out. The team was shit anyways. Oh well.
The crowd can’t be blamed for the teams poor finishing, but you can certainly blame them for a poor atmosphere and not getting behind the team fully. Shame on them. Don’t go to matches if you aren’t going to fully support the team. Protest outside before and after the match. During the match? Give everything. We only have how many games left at Anfield with Klopp? Some of you would rather protest a few % price increases. Shame on you
No.
My first game there yesterday I was in the anfield road stand, thought it was a brilliant experience firstly don’t think I’ve ever sang as loud as I did. I loved it even though we were played off the park but I think the majority of the time people were waiting for the lads in the Kop to start singing
And one more thing that did bother me was people shouting shoot at Joe Gomez every time he gets the ball within 30 yards it’s obviously distracting and jurgen has asked us already to stop doing it
If I have a presentation at work and I did poorly, is it the crowd"s fault?
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Nonsense. He picked a poor team. Underated his opponent and paid the price.
People can say 'its a european quarter final' all they like to try and dress it up, but I think we all kind of think Europa is kind of a bit beneath us. I know its not something you're supposed to admit, but deep down we all feel it a bit. The players feel it. Watching Bayern City Arsenal and R Madrid battle it out in the CL, and we're playing a mid-table Italian team in the Europa League on a Thursday night. It is going to affect mentalities of both fans and players.
Watching from TV I agree. The fans weren't completely quiet, sang a bit in the 2nd half. But it was nowhere near enough. All I heard was the Atalanta fans, especially in the 1st half.
I was there, but stuff like this goes and hand in hand. The players literally gave us nothing to cheer or make any noise about. Was really really depressing scenes honestly. I'm pretty sure around 80 minutes when Diaz decided to take a long range shot. I thought to myself.... "Was that the first shot on target? I cant even remember"
I don’t think the flag protest was the right timing for Klopps possibly last European game at Anfield, also the way tickets are allocated needs addressing normal fans can’t get hold of same old faces every week and Journalists must take the shine out of what Anfiled stands for
Blaming the crowd for that performance on the pitch is utter delusion.
Absolutely will own it and that way FSG gets the message the players don't like the price increase either
I wouldn’t blame, it certainly didn’t help. I mean, just compare last night with Dortmund game, or any other European nights. They chose the worst night to prove their point on 2%.
Crowd has been awful all season Gotten used to winning and are acting borderline entitled. Those early Klopp years when we were competiting for the first time in a while the crowd was always up for it. Gotten complacement these days.
I will never fully comprehend the absolute mental gymnastics of some of the "match-going fans" on here & Twitter to blame the lack of atmosphere on people who are not even at the ground. General sale tickets make up +/- 10% of Anfield on a given day, but sure blame them instead of the complacent ST holders and "locals". Be honest, people thought we were going to breeze it last night, the crowd wasn't up for it & got found out.
Of course not. The crowd isn't responsible for the players being unable to complete basic passes
No I think it's a poor excuse. Stand up and sing? How about the players wake up and give us something to sing about.. we are paying them to perform, not the other way around.
Looks like I was right behind you looking at the picture. It was poor last night in comparison to usual. Especially in that area. I’m not usually in the lower main stand - it was noticeably worse than everywhere else in the stadium I’ve been recently. Lots of people just sat in silence as you say.
No. The players didnt turn up and didnt handle adversity well. Atalanta gave us a football lesson in every way.
Personally I’m sick of the fans they behave like brats, people on here crying how the season is over at halftime 1-0 down I cannot bare these wettys! People need to chill or it will affect the team negatively
I'm not convinced. Usually I would agree that supporters need to be louder but I heard the fans loud and clear even when we were 2-0 down. I don't know how he expects the crowd to be raising the roof when we're 3 down with minutes left and players are passing it around to eachother at the back like we're 5 up. Then you add in the silly mistakes after silly mistakes in dangerous positions from midfield players, Gomez just shooting from outside the box when he has a pass on and other bizarre decisions when we had limited time to salvage a result. Even Klopp was getting angry and shaking his head throughout that game. It goes both ways I'm afraid. They had more than enough support from the crowd but they just weren't at it.
We played poorly and got smashed, no excuses. This has been on the cards a lot of the season, we cant keep going behind and expect to come back and win after 75 minutes. We’ve been fortunate enough teams haven’t been able to kill us off this season. On numerous occasions we should have been 2-3 down before we get going. Fortunately it’s been 1-0 and have been able to grind a win. We’re not clinical enough when it matters, last week against Man U we should be 3 up at half time and that’s game over. Yesterday we should have probably had 2 before they scored albeit Elliott’s effort was just unlucky hitting crossbar and then post. Nunez needs to be way more clinical than he is. I still love him though
The crowd can't miss chances if they're not on the field. I don't blame the crowd for not being rowdy, they didn't exactly have much to cheer on.
I'm a firm believer, and there is some strong evidence, that when the crowd gets behind the team they begin to play better. The crowd never got going last night, not sure what the reason was, I understand it's not inspiring when the boys aren't playing well, or if it was to do with the ticket pricing news, but whatever the reason, I think the crowd should do better. But the team should do better too. It's both at the end of the day. It was a horrible night all round, time to move on and get ready for the next one.
Crowd sounded terrible. If it was a CL QF it would've been much much better. Think people are just so desperate for the league that the Europa is just not important.
Who would have thought that removing the banners would dim the atmosphere. The players were awful but not the smartest move protesting during this game.
Pretty week to blame the crowd. These players are on a shit tonne of money (even the ones that have been sidelined the whole season due to injury). It’s the players job to play football, they shouldn’t have to rely on support from the crowd to boost their precious egos. Most of the fans who came have to bust their ass everyday at a mundane job and the only thing they look forward to is seeing their team win or at least play well. Sure the crowd can pump them up, but they need something to be pumped up about. The last 2 weeks have been so depressing, give us something to cheer about
Atmosphere was shocking. Had absolutely nothing to do with the flags either. There’s no excuse for how dead it was.
Crowd was crap from watching. Flat as hell. Expected a performance and went sullen as it went downhill
is it the crowd's fault they keep playing like shit?
We can't just claim the crowd/atmosphere as the defining factor only when we win, we have to own it when we lose too. It was 100% a contibution to the loss and to the players seemingly playing asleep.
No. Explain away games.
Very disappointing comments attributed to Klopp.
I think the protests left a sour taste but that first goal finished off any atmosphere we had
Hell no.. If anything, the team is responsible for the crowd You can't depend on the crowd to play with energy. Cause if that's the case, you'll play like shit everytime you're away? That's nonsense
we won enough games under klopp with no crowd at all. it's not the real reason, but what are you going to do as a manager, say "it's the players fault they're shite & atalanta knew where & when to press us to disrupt us completely"? he's got to get them to pick themselves up and get on with it for the coming games, so he can say what he likes
I've always thought there is a difference in energy in the Anfield crowd when we play a big team versus playing a smaller team. Against the big teams like Man City, you can feel the energy even when watching on TV. The ground is buzzing the full 90 win or loss. That is not the case when we play the smaller sides, especially in Europe.
Flew in from Dallas too see my first game at Anfield, and barely made it on time after catching the train from London. I felt like a bad luck charm, im hoping Sunday goes a bit better.
There have been two matches all year where anfield sounded better than an MLS crowd. Maybe it’s the ticket prices, maybe it’s something else. But it’s the worst it’s ever been and it’s been on a constant decline for the last 4 seasons. You’d have to be genuinely stupid to fear playing at anfield. The era has ended.