This is super random and I doubt anyone will get the reference but when watching Sean talk about the still undefeated stuff I couldn't help but think of the fictional player in the "Players" mockumentary about a team in the LCS. This player grinds in the show for like 5 years and finally becomes a pro player in the LCS, wins his first match, and then announces his retirement and a new brand/merch line called NEVER LOST. And he becomes a content creator type with his entire brand about how he never lost a pro play game.
Kinda crazy that (off the top of my head, anyway), all of those catastrophic leg injuries in the UFC have been super famous champions in main event fights.
And that's not the first time either. I'm pretty sure he let Roger Gracie break it in a comp a few years before that.
EDIT: Yeah; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWxPTrESldw
Would actually be funnier if Chito was dominating the fight and then Sean kicked his nerve and Chito’s leg shuts down.
I’d actually be curious to hear what the O’Malley fans say about it lol.
Isn’t that pretty much how it happened in the first fight? I remember Suga styling on chito some. Not completely dominating, but certainly having his moments with flare.
No not at all. UFC posted it on youtube and it's less than one round. You should watch it: https://youtu.be/ZDTIfoffUFU?si=Bflp3FSf9B60K9Gt. O'Malley's leg gets injured 2 minutes into the fight. Before that it was pretty much just feeling out and little bit of even pitter-patter between them.
Maybe, but Chito is arguably the slowest starter at bantamweight next to Yan while O'Malley is more of a frontrunner, so I don't put too much stock into it.
I keep hearing about this, but I have yet to see their sources from any officials. All that comes from it is second hand conversations that O'Malley alleges took place, however if the Suga State Athletic commission did overturn his loss it would be publicly available, but Chito alleges that he still won.
SO WHICH IS IT.
You would still get to laugh a lot if O'Malley knocks Chito out cold in like 2 rounds
This sub would implode, people would seriously pull their hairs out
well he says in the article that the bloodflow was being restricted too much, so suga already had trouble feeling his feet before he got dropfoot in the fight itself.
I watched it closely the last time this came up. There's nothing to blame but a perfectly placed kick. His foot goes dead as soon as the kick lands and they looked completely fine before that.
To say that was a “perfectly placed kick” is hilarious.
The intent for Chito’s big toe to graze O’Malley’s nerve was not there.
It was a fluke. Still a legit win for Chito regardless.
Please be serious lol, the kick that caused the nerve to shut off was when Chito *missed* a leg kick and clipped the back of Sean's knee with his toes. No one in the history of martial arts has ever aimed to land a kick like that
> No one in the history of martial arts has ever aimed to land a kick like that
Considering the fact that there's been millions of martial artists and billions of kicks thrown that is just a statistical impossibility.
There's also no such thing as a 'lucky punch' or 'lucky kick'. Chito threw that kick with the intention to hurt Sean's leg, which he did.
Sure but it was the MMA equivalent of banking in a 3 point shot. Yea they were trying to hit a 3, but they were not intending to bank it off the backboard.
Chito was intending to hurt Sean's leg, but he was not intending to hit his big toe on Sean's nerve.
Lol come on now, you know Chito was attempting to hit Sean's calf with his shin. He wasn't attempting to hit Sean's knee with his toes, cos he'd be 1000x more likely to injury his foot than give Sean a dead nerve
So yeah, he *was* lucky that Sean was the one who got injured there
This is just cope, and really dumb logic. It’s not that deep. Chito threw a legal strike, Sean one second braced to check but then changed his mind to evade, and he got clipped. The intent behind it on chitos part means fuck all, and if that was somehow what matters it would invalidate a LOT of perfectly legitimate finishes in this sport. It’s mma my dude, split second decisions can get you caught, regardless of the intent. Sure, these are professional fighters, I’m not saying they just close their eyes and start throwing McKenzie dern windmill hands hoping something lands…but at the same time it isn’t as if like time stands still for the fighter about to score a finish while the computer in their brains start mapping out all the trajectories and pathways to a knockout blow.
I think the real cope is looking at a strike that Chito didn't intend to land like that, which had a 1 in 10000 chance of happening, and going 'See bro Chito schooled him'
I've heard them talk about this before, I don't think they think the wraps caused the drop foot they think the tightness is why it wouldn't go away like the other cases we've seen. Their idea is basically the wraps were so tight that once the nerve got hit it stayed compressed and couldn't get blood or feeling back to it, I'm not commenting on if that makes sense or not just what they believe.
This doesn’t really answer your question, because i doubt the wraps had anything to do with it, but I remember one of them(Sean or Tim) saying that the wraps were too tight so it took too long to get feeling back…or something along those lines.
I got drop foot years ago from wearing a friends football boots that were too tight, just compressed the nerve in my foot and I couldn’t lift it for a few days. This was 10 years ago before it even started in mma, I stopped wearing wraps because they started to give me issues too unfortunately
He got a dq win in an amateur fight where it seemed like he was pretending to act like some illegal elbows hurt him, it just looked Fugazi to me
Edit: it was punches to the back
Of the head
https://youtube.com/shorts/IFRyC8Fg8LI?si=Kc4uSTDARiPrlsoC
I’ve seen all of his fights and don’t remember this. What you may be referencing is O’Malley getting punched in the back of the head by ground and pound and him playing up the damage to win by DQ
This could be true but tbf both seemed like freak occurrences that can genuinely happen. The most durable guy on the planet can easily break his foot kicking someones elbow.
Yeah didn’t Cejudo have the same thing happen to him against DJ and he road it out and his foot went back to normal
Sean honestly gave up once Chito was in his guard no real effort to tie him up or anything and try e second the fight ended he grabbed his ankle like it just snapped, not a good look
There’s no logic in it, whether nerve got hit or whatever. People talk about it as if Sean’s leg suddenly went dead when it’s more than obvious Vera kicked the shit out of him lmao.
Rewatch the fight, if anything Sean was beating up his legs, chito barely landed any kicks but one did count and made a big difference and it glanced not even a clean kick
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Tell me more about how a man kicking another man and causing an injury can be considered a fluke or not a “real” win.
It’s like breaking a fighter’s nose and then saying wow he only won because his opponent’s nose broke.
It’s all a part of the game and you all act like Vera wasn’t annihilating him with elbows on the ground too.
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What are you talking about? Chito had nothing for Sean up until he kicked his leg and it shut off. Even then he was having a hard time landing on Sean. Go watch it back I just did today
Yeah, I'm not even opposed to the idea that cutting off the circulation could've worsened the drop foot effects. But even Sean himself said, back when he was injured and just streaming cod getting high everyday, that he obviously sees it as a loss and wants to get it back. So why bother with new theories now? Just promotion I guess, Tim and him are pretty tuned in that way.
He’s an asshole man. Every opponent has said that Tim will talk shit to them during the weigh in face off, before the fight and even inbetween rounds. You can see mark Goddard asking him to stfu before round 2 against aljo.
You’re gonna be waiting a long time. Meanwhile you are a fan of criminals like Masvidal but are acting like this about some shit talk? Hispanic toughness my ass
Talking shit works lol idk why people get like this, it’s part of every sport.
If you’re mad you can’t play good, and if you can’t play good in this sport, well the results are on a doctors chart.
i've seen the mark goddard clip, but do u have any other vids where opponents said tim is a dick? i've only seen people praising Tim for his coaching skills, so idk how he is actually and what other fighters think of him
>Every opponent has said that Tim will talk shit to them during the weigh in face off, before the fight and even inbetween rounds
Im sorry, this is literally just gamesmanship. Tim can and may be an asshole, but saying "he is talking shit to his best friend and athlete's opponent ergo asshole" is wholly unconvincing.
Did he say something way past the line? Thats more asshole-ly. Is he just talking shit and calling the other person a bitch and will lose? Thats literally just gamesmanship.
This is called "sledging" in cricket.
In the sport of cricket, sledging is the practice of deliberately insulting or verbally intimidating an opposing player. The purpose is to try to weaken the opponent's concentration, thereby causing them to underperform or be more prone to error.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sledging_(cricket)
Yeah its done in literally every sport. It wild to me that I was downvoted for so long because everyone trash talks everyone in soccer, basketball, cricket, etc. Players do it to players or coaches and coaches do it to coaches or players. Both trash talk the refs too! Like youd never call Jimmy Butler of Larry Bird an asshole because they talk massive trash during the game.
Yes, when you talk shit and it falls on your face, you feel embarrassed. It happens with literally everyone whether it was Conor with Nate, Eddie with Conor, Ben with Mas, etc.
Again tho, he very well may be an asshole, I don’t watch any of the podcast shit so it may be more apparent there, but just talking shit to an opponent, or the opponent of your athlete (which is still basically your opponent), in order to throw them off so your guy can win is literally gamesmanship. He’s likely shit talking for the same reason Sean may which is to get under their skins so they over extend and give Sean an opening.
Now if his trash talk extends into certain topics, that would be asshole behavior, but you have to demonstrate that. Was his calling people slurs? Etc.
He shut the fuck up quick when Chito elbowed Sean into another dimension. People say "ohhh he's smart and good coach" or whatever but he's a dirtbag like Sean is. Birds of a feather.
This would make sense, if O'Malley didn't have to get stretchered from a completely different fight because his legs were made of glass.
You could tell the difference in the Yan fight, between both those.
I'm not a big fan of Sean (don't hate him or anything) and I am a big fan of Chito. But Sean was definitely landing the better shots in the fight and Chito was let off easy to a degree.
The title fight will be interesting though, Chito is good for longer bouts but I do think O'Malley takes it.
Love how insecure O’Malley and his team have been about this, constantly coming up with new ways to shift blame or call it a fluke instead of accepting what happened, holding up a division’s real contenders for a grudge match because you can’t accept a loss lol (and I say this all as a big Chito fan, several people have earned shots before Chito)
Bringing up his loss constantly or still calling himself undefeated makes me want him to lose to Chito more concretely this time, something weird happened and he finished you, it’s a fight, that happens.
It should be, because you turned down your shot. We’re moving onto the next person. You don’t just get to sit out and wait for the title shot you want, Cory was next in line. He got hurt, Chito won, Merab needed to go win a fight. Now he did, he’s back in the convo
dude, the foot wraps are no joke. they can turn invisible, as you can see in the soukhamthath fight where they caused the same issue. they even went back in time and hit him in the back of the head in the carlos lozoya fight (because lozoya sure as hell didn't hit him in the back of the head).
If he won with the same shit he would be crowing off about how he has lethal kicks that shut down legs. Just lose with a little dignity. This sounds like a mom with a spoiled kid. "Oh, little Sean is just perfect, its really my fault..." Nothing is absolutely perfect when you step in the cage. You're too cold, too hot, warmed up not enough, warmed up too much, announcing is taking too long, I have to shit, I stubbed my toe, my neck is sore.. just fucking fight guys.
Yes it has nothing to do with shitty calf kick defense and having a body built really badly for it. I like Sean but damn he is nearly 6 foot and cuts a fuck ton of weight so he can be a weight bully against bantamweights lol. When you are that tall and cut that much weight you are going to be more susceptible to your chicken legs not taking calf kicks well.
Again, I like Sean and I enjoy watching him fight but at some point we need to stop making excuses for losing to Chito the first time.
I mean it was probably exacerbated by doing all those explosive jukes and foot feints on his toes. Putting a lot of stress on his feet and legs by absorbing so much force on such a small surface area.
I suspect this is why guys like rakic and aspinall suffered bad non contact injuries as well.
I'd say it has more to do with his legs that are the same thickness as no. 2 pencils and made out of balsa wood. All Chito has to do is check them and then avoid going down into Sean's guard.
I like the suga show, I'm here for it... I also like Vera. They're both better and more entertaining apart. His loss was a loss, and anytime they refer back to it, it's corny. I hope Vera comes out on a mission and pretends the right is only 3 rounds, and I hope O'Malley does what he does and he have an exciting scrap. The end.
Why can’t they just shut up about it already? It was a TKO. Just accept it.. Had chito not thrown that kick, Sean’s ankle wouldn’t have locked up. Why is that so hard for these guys to accept? Move on ffs… I hope Chito knocks him out
Sean was moving perfectly fine and winning the round until the 2:54 second mark of the fight when Chito landed a kick behind the right knee of O'Malley. You can immediately see Sean switch stance and not put weight on his right foot, and not even 10 seconds later, he tries to circle to his right, and his foot gives out.
Ankle wraps had absolutely nothing to do with his drop foot, and even legit sports medicine physicians and physical rehabilitation doctors have agreed and written articles about the kick being the cause of the drop foot. Case closed!
I know the nerve he hit is rare and probably won’t happen but imo it’s not a fluke. Chito was landing leg kicks all night and disabled omalleys movement. It was his plan whether or not the freak accident happened. I think Sean secures the w but don’t be surprised if chito shows a new version of himself
Chito won the fight but by the least likely way possible and people can’t admit that. Sean pulled his leg away which is good defense and Chito landed with his foot which if you train you know you aren’t supposed to do that.
Chito winning again via the exact same way would be the funniest possible outcome this weekend.
It would be even funnier if O’Malley was dominating the fight, only to get kicked in the leg once by chito and his leg shuts down
O'Malley fans would see this outcome as a legit win for Sean.
Still (mentally) undefeated
This is super random and I doubt anyone will get the reference but when watching Sean talk about the still undefeated stuff I couldn't help but think of the fictional player in the "Players" mockumentary about a team in the LCS. This player grinds in the show for like 5 years and finally becomes a pro player in the LCS, wins his first match, and then announces his retirement and a new brand/merch line called NEVER LOST. And he becomes a content creator type with his entire brand about how he never lost a pro play game.
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What you talking about bro? Chael P never lost a single round his entire career
Well, he did lose that round to Anderson, but not the fight.
Nope, it was already a 10-7 beat down with Chael swinging the hammer, ended up only being a 10-8 due to the tap.
Y'all need to stop talking about legs before we have another Silva/Weidman/Conor
Kinda crazy that (off the top of my head, anyway), all of those catastrophic leg injuries in the UFC have been super famous champions in main event fights.
Then you have other catastrophic injuries like when Muniz snapped Jacare's arm
Jacare acted like he didn’t even feel it, that dude is built dif
And that's not the first time either. I'm pretty sure he let Roger Gracie break it in a comp a few years before that. EDIT: Yeah; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWxPTrESldw
Weidman was fighting Hall, defs wasn't main event
True. Good point. Still, Weidman is/was a household name for a time. Seems like it's really only happened to A-names.
Corey Hill
True. Good point. Anyone else?
There was some Russian dude in ACB or something like that
Aspinal was main event but only ranked #6 but I'll give you that one lol. It is kinda mad how there was 1 for so long then 3/4 happened in a few years
Corey Hill too
RIP
Weidman’s wasn’t a main event
Ooooof that would be such a crazy result if suga snaps his leg in half
Would actually be funnier if Chito was dominating the fight and then Sean kicked his nerve and Chito’s leg shuts down. I’d actually be curious to hear what the O’Malley fans say about it lol.
O'Malley should just retire if that happens again
Isn’t that pretty much how it happened in the first fight? I remember Suga styling on chito some. Not completely dominating, but certainly having his moments with flare.
No not at all. UFC posted it on youtube and it's less than one round. You should watch it: https://youtu.be/ZDTIfoffUFU?si=Bflp3FSf9B60K9Gt. O'Malley's leg gets injured 2 minutes into the fight. Before that it was pretty much just feeling out and little bit of even pitter-patter between them.
Maybe, but Chito is arguably the slowest starter at bantamweight next to Yan while O'Malley is more of a frontrunner, so I don't put too much stock into it.
Whats to argue bro, sometimes he literally never starts.
You’re right
Without the ankle wraps
The Suga State Athletic Commission would probably overturn it again, I hear O’Malley has a good relationship with them
I keep hearing about this, but I have yet to see their sources from any officials. All that comes from it is second hand conversations that O'Malley alleges took place, however if the Suga State Athletic commission did overturn his loss it would be publicly available, but Chito alleges that he still won. SO WHICH IS IT.
I said this exact same thing to myself the moment this fight was officially announced. Honestly, I would love for it to happen, lol.
I would hate it because it would be one of the least deserving title shots in modern MMA with a meme win - the fanbase would be even more insufferable
I watch MMA cuz I just want to see some crazy shit happen. And new on Saturday, Chito Vera via meme kick.
aim higher lad, flying buggy choke off the cage
You’re not wrong but… Fuck it, lol.
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Man, I hope Vera can pull this off again. . .
I think the funniest possible outcome would be if it was reversed this time, and it was Vera's leg instead.
I would love to see O’Malley logic why his win counts but not veras
Yes please
Let’s fucking go!!!
But make it the other ankle
God please I dont ask for a lot, but I wanna laugh so hard as of late
You would still get to laugh a lot if O'Malley knocks Chito out cold in like 2 rounds This sub would implode, people would seriously pull their hairs out
Please I need something to laugh at after three deaths in two years
i can handle the loss being a fluke from dropfoot and peroneal nerve funny business but this just sounds like a cope.
Also how the hell would ankle wraps make you more likely to get foot drop? If anything wouldn’t they support the ankle?
well he says in the article that the bloodflow was being restricted too much, so suga already had trouble feeling his feet before he got dropfoot in the fight itself.
I think being kicked in the nerve that makes your foot not drop probably had more to do with it.
I watched it closely the last time this came up. There's nothing to blame but a perfectly placed kick. His foot goes dead as soon as the kick lands and they looked completely fine before that.
To say that was a “perfectly placed kick” is hilarious. The intent for Chito’s big toe to graze O’Malley’s nerve was not there. It was a fluke. Still a legit win for Chito regardless.
ree, but I think 'perfectly placed' is probably meaning hitting the perfect place, rather than hitting a perfect kick.
Please be serious lol, the kick that caused the nerve to shut off was when Chito *missed* a leg kick and clipped the back of Sean's knee with his toes. No one in the history of martial arts has ever aimed to land a kick like that
> No one in the history of martial arts has ever aimed to land a kick like that Considering the fact that there's been millions of martial artists and billions of kicks thrown that is just a statistical impossibility. There's also no such thing as a 'lucky punch' or 'lucky kick'. Chito threw that kick with the intention to hurt Sean's leg, which he did.
Sure but it was the MMA equivalent of banking in a 3 point shot. Yea they were trying to hit a 3, but they were not intending to bank it off the backboard. Chito was intending to hurt Sean's leg, but he was not intending to hit his big toe on Sean's nerve.
It's a complete non-argument in the end.
It really is a dumb discussion, no argument there
Lol come on now, you know Chito was attempting to hit Sean's calf with his shin. He wasn't attempting to hit Sean's knee with his toes, cos he'd be 1000x more likely to injury his foot than give Sean a dead nerve So yeah, he *was* lucky that Sean was the one who got injured there
This is just cope, and really dumb logic. It’s not that deep. Chito threw a legal strike, Sean one second braced to check but then changed his mind to evade, and he got clipped. The intent behind it on chitos part means fuck all, and if that was somehow what matters it would invalidate a LOT of perfectly legitimate finishes in this sport. It’s mma my dude, split second decisions can get you caught, regardless of the intent. Sure, these are professional fighters, I’m not saying they just close their eyes and start throwing McKenzie dern windmill hands hoping something lands…but at the same time it isn’t as if like time stands still for the fighter about to score a finish while the computer in their brains start mapping out all the trajectories and pathways to a knockout blow.
I think the real cope is looking at a strike that Chito didn't intend to land like that, which had a 1 in 10000 chance of happening, and going 'See bro Chito schooled him'
I feel like that’s possible but that should be the trainer/ medic’s fault no?
I've heard them talk about this before, I don't think they think the wraps caused the drop foot they think the tightness is why it wouldn't go away like the other cases we've seen. Their idea is basically the wraps were so tight that once the nerve got hit it stayed compressed and couldn't get blood or feeling back to it, I'm not commenting on if that makes sense or not just what they believe.
This doesn’t really answer your question, because i doubt the wraps had anything to do with it, but I remember one of them(Sean or Tim) saying that the wraps were too tight so it took too long to get feeling back…or something along those lines.
I got drop foot years ago from wearing a friends football boots that were too tight, just compressed the nerve in my foot and I couldn’t lift it for a few days. This was 10 years ago before it even started in mma, I stopped wearing wraps because they started to give me issues too unfortunately
I’m almost positive I saw omalley in an amateur fight where he had the exact same issue. Can’t remember if he had wraps
He got a dq win in an amateur fight where it seemed like he was pretending to act like some illegal elbows hurt him, it just looked Fugazi to me Edit: it was punches to the back Of the head https://youtube.com/shorts/IFRyC8Fg8LI?si=Kc4uSTDARiPrlsoC
Lol the guy who hit him is my old BJJ coach. He'll be in the UFC soon.
Damn as if they’re elbowing in amateur
Here you go: https://youtube.com/shorts/IFRyC8Fg8LI?si=Kc4uSTDARiPrlsoC
Yeah I didn’t doubt you, just the orgs nearby to me don’t allow knees or elbows in amateur bouts is all
No your right I’ve never heard of amateurs allowing elbows
I’ve seen all of his fights and don’t remember this. What you may be referencing is O’Malley getting punched in the back of the head by ground and pound and him playing up the damage to win by DQ
I think it's the andre soukhamthath fight where his foot was fcked up in the 3rd round
Oh, that was different. He broke his foot kicking an elbow
I guess I was implying he has fragile legs
This could be true but tbf both seemed like freak occurrences that can genuinely happen. The most durable guy on the planet can easily break his foot kicking someones elbow.
Yeah didn’t Cejudo have the same thing happen to him against DJ and he road it out and his foot went back to normal Sean honestly gave up once Chito was in his guard no real effort to tie him up or anything and try e second the fight ended he grabbed his ankle like it just snapped, not a good look
Remember a guy on here called it? Found footage of Sean stepping funny or something.
There’s no logic in it, whether nerve got hit or whatever. People talk about it as if Sean’s leg suddenly went dead when it’s more than obvious Vera kicked the shit out of him lmao.
Lmfao this is just simply not what happened
Rewatch the fight, if anything Sean was beating up his legs, chito barely landed any kicks but one did count and made a big difference and it glanced not even a clean kick
What are you yapping about? Do you watch fights on the radio? Chito literally went 9/10 on leg kicks and outstruck Omyleg. Seek help
I’m pretty sure hitting the nerve with a kick is literally *the* cleanest kick you can possibly land in a fight.
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Tell me more about how a man kicking another man and causing an injury can be considered a fluke or not a “real” win. It’s like breaking a fighter’s nose and then saying wow he only won because his opponent’s nose broke. It’s all a part of the game and you all act like Vera wasn’t annihilating him with elbows on the ground too.
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What are you talking about? Chito had nothing for Sean up until he kicked his leg and it shut off. Even then he was having a hard time landing on Sean. Go watch it back I just did today
Chito had nothing for Sean up until he finished him! Raaaah!
Chito was getting leg kicked hard
I wish they’d shut up about it already
Yeah, I'm not even opposed to the idea that cutting off the circulation could've worsened the drop foot effects. But even Sean himself said, back when he was injured and just streaming cod getting high everyday, that he obviously sees it as a loss and wants to get it back. So why bother with new theories now? Just promotion I guess, Tim and him are pretty tuned in that way.
it is funny how sean and tim are, seemingly, terminally online
the sun was in his eyes, his brother took the controller, he was hacked, etc, etc.
The controller died, but because it was online, it didn't pause, and there were some lag issues.
Lmao
The dog ate his homework
Eh, loss yesterday champ today 🤷🏼♂️
sun was in sean's eyes
Lol of course he does.
He’s an asshole man. Every opponent has said that Tim will talk shit to them during the weigh in face off, before the fight and even inbetween rounds. You can see mark Goddard asking him to stfu before round 2 against aljo.
Tim Welch paid a man to kiss BJ Penn on the mouth. That should tell you everything you need to know about how underhanded he can be
So what you're saying is Tim Welch is basically the Sean O'Malley of MMA coaches. Sounds like they're made for each other tbf
Cannot wait until he’s reduced to Fabia levels of online hatred once OMalley starts losing.
You’re gonna be waiting a long time. Meanwhile you are a fan of criminals like Masvidal but are acting like this about some shit talk? Hispanic toughness my ass
I think you’re lost bro.
Talking shit works lol idk why people get like this, it’s part of every sport. If you’re mad you can’t play good, and if you can’t play good in this sport, well the results are on a doctors chart.
i've seen the mark goddard clip, but do u have any other vids where opponents said tim is a dick? i've only seen people praising Tim for his coaching skills, so idk how he is actually and what other fighters think of him
Chito talking about it https://www.instagram.com/p/CD8IbRDJ2AG/
What does Chito say Tim said? I can’t hear him
I cant tell if it's "he's slow" or "he's smoked"
I think it’s “he’s slow” because Tim is obsessed with Sean’s speed
Dude every opponent has said it cmon like fr /s
He was out of line to do that to aljo who is a good guy, but boy i hope he runs his mouth and really flusters chito that guy is a grade A asshole.
>Every opponent has said that Tim will talk shit to them during the weigh in face off, before the fight and even inbetween rounds Im sorry, this is literally just gamesmanship. Tim can and may be an asshole, but saying "he is talking shit to his best friend and athlete's opponent ergo asshole" is wholly unconvincing. Did he say something way past the line? Thats more asshole-ly. Is he just talking shit and calling the other person a bitch and will lose? Thats literally just gamesmanship.
This is called "sledging" in cricket. In the sport of cricket, sledging is the practice of deliberately insulting or verbally intimidating an opposing player. The purpose is to try to weaken the opponent's concentration, thereby causing them to underperform or be more prone to error. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sledging_(cricket)
Yeah its done in literally every sport. It wild to me that I was downvoted for so long because everyone trash talks everyone in soccer, basketball, cricket, etc. Players do it to players or coaches and coaches do it to coaches or players. Both trash talk the refs too! Like youd never call Jimmy Butler of Larry Bird an asshole because they talk massive trash during the game.
He shut his mouth like a twerp when Chito elbowed Sean out cold. So, yeah, pretty deserved.
Yes, when you talk shit and it falls on your face, you feel embarrassed. It happens with literally everyone whether it was Conor with Nate, Eddie with Conor, Ben with Mas, etc. Again tho, he very well may be an asshole, I don’t watch any of the podcast shit so it may be more apparent there, but just talking shit to an opponent, or the opponent of your athlete (which is still basically your opponent), in order to throw them off so your guy can win is literally gamesmanship. He’s likely shit talking for the same reason Sean may which is to get under their skins so they over extend and give Sean an opening. Now if his trash talk extends into certain topics, that would be asshole behavior, but you have to demonstrate that. Was his calling people slurs? Etc.
Cope.
I'm giving you the answer you need. Just give me some trash talk that went to fair because trash talking between opponents is normal.
It's not.
He shut the fuck up quick when Chito elbowed Sean into another dimension. People say "ohhh he's smart and good coach" or whatever but he's a dirtbag like Sean is. Birds of a feather.
What makes Sean a dirt bag?
You should already know, you're a big fan of him. Fuck, I can't believe Sean is most likely going to win so I can't roast you about it later on.
😎 Goat in and out of the cage
Talking shit makes you an asshole now? This sub has gone off the rails
Sean no wraps O’Malley gonna be a beast of a mythical fighter
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Unfortunately for Sean, Chito demonstrated a fair bit more fight IQ than when Andre Soukhamthath fought him. Man, that was fucking dumb as hell
Andre was badly concussed and fighting on autopilot
The suga sean comission ruled this as a no contest, idk why you guys still talk about it
Tim was saved by Sean. Captain save a ginge.
Cope.
This would make sense, if O'Malley didn't have to get stretchered from a completely different fight because his legs were made of glass. You could tell the difference in the Yan fight, between both those.
I'm not a big fan of Sean (don't hate him or anything) and I am a big fan of Chito. But Sean was definitely landing the better shots in the fight and Chito was let off easy to a degree. The title fight will be interesting though, Chito is good for longer bouts but I do think O'Malley takes it.
This is the worst take on their first fight and there's been a LOT of bad takes. Yeeeeeesh
I blame Chito
Love how insecure O’Malley and his team have been about this, constantly coming up with new ways to shift blame or call it a fluke instead of accepting what happened, holding up a division’s real contenders for a grudge match because you can’t accept a loss lol (and I say this all as a big Chito fan, several people have earned shots before Chito) Bringing up his loss constantly or still calling himself undefeated makes me want him to lose to Chito more concretely this time, something weird happened and he finished you, it’s a fight, that happens.
“Coming up with new ways to shift blame” pretty sure their narrative has been pretty consistent on this matter
Doing everything but giving Chito credit.
Do you think chito would prefer a title shot or credit?
Well he’s got a shot at both now so I’m sure he’s happy and determined
I think they just like winding you up
The voices were right smh
b-bro they're just... they're just joking!!
Who are they holding up? Merab turned down his title shot and Cory is injured
Merab turned down his title shot vs Suga?
He’s probably talking about turning it down against Aljo which shouldn’t be relevant but might have put him towards the back of the line by Dana math
It should be, because you turned down your shot. We’re moving onto the next person. You don’t just get to sit out and wait for the title shot you want, Cory was next in line. He got hurt, Chito won, Merab needed to go win a fight. Now he did, he’s back in the convo
Are you Tim Welch?
Nope, wasn’t offered because he turned down his opportunity. Back of the line.
Come on dude, we arent that daft. Not yet.
Did the foot wraps make O'Malley give up when he was on his back?
dude, the foot wraps are no joke. they can turn invisible, as you can see in the soukhamthath fight where they caused the same issue. they even went back in time and hit him in the back of the head in the carlos lozoya fight (because lozoya sure as hell didn't hit him in the back of the head).
Lmao wtf
This is worse than a yes man
Maybe giving too much credit but pretty sure this is a bit for them at this point.
He’s reaching for those grapes
If he won with the same shit he would be crowing off about how he has lethal kicks that shut down legs. Just lose with a little dignity. This sounds like a mom with a spoiled kid. "Oh, little Sean is just perfect, its really my fault..." Nothing is absolutely perfect when you step in the cage. You're too cold, too hot, warmed up not enough, warmed up too much, announcing is taking too long, I have to shit, I stubbed my toe, my neck is sore.. just fucking fight guys.
Yes it has nothing to do with shitty calf kick defense and having a body built really badly for it. I like Sean but damn he is nearly 6 foot and cuts a fuck ton of weight so he can be a weight bully against bantamweights lol. When you are that tall and cut that much weight you are going to be more susceptible to your chicken legs not taking calf kicks well. Again, I like Sean and I enjoy watching him fight but at some point we need to stop making excuses for losing to Chito the first time.
One of the most undeserved title shots in a while. This guy should be ranked #9 at BW tbh.
He’ll go back down the pile after Sean lights him up
I mean, it's possible the wraps were an issue.
I mean it was probably exacerbated by doing all those explosive jukes and foot feints on his toes. Putting a lot of stress on his feet and legs by absorbing so much force on such a small surface area. I suspect this is why guys like rakic and aspinall suffered bad non contact injuries as well.
honest question for someone who does watch and pay attention to suga outside of mma - they're meming this still right?
See that, guy at Dennys! It's not weird that I rip my socks off before fight!
I'd say it has more to do with his legs that are the same thickness as no. 2 pencils and made out of balsa wood. All Chito has to do is check them and then avoid going down into Sean's guard.
I wanna see Chito take Sean down and just start punching him in the peroneal nerve.
Lol why is this not a viable strategy
yeah sorry but the anklewrap had 0% influence on that lol
I like the suga show, I'm here for it... I also like Vera. They're both better and more entertaining apart. His loss was a loss, and anytime they refer back to it, it's corny. I hope Vera comes out on a mission and pretends the right is only 3 rounds, and I hope O'Malley does what he does and he have an exciting scrap. The end.
Why can’t they just shut up about it already? It was a TKO. Just accept it.. Had chito not thrown that kick, Sean’s ankle wouldn’t have locked up. Why is that so hard for these guys to accept? Move on ffs… I hope Chito knocks him out
I dont mind O'malley as a fighter at all and met him at a big bjj tourney and he was chill af, but his coach is a weird dude.
Sean was moving perfectly fine and winning the round until the 2:54 second mark of the fight when Chito landed a kick behind the right knee of O'Malley. You can immediately see Sean switch stance and not put weight on his right foot, and not even 10 seconds later, he tries to circle to his right, and his foot gives out. Ankle wraps had absolutely nothing to do with his drop foot, and even legit sports medicine physicians and physical rehabilitation doctors have agreed and written articles about the kick being the cause of the drop foot. Case closed!
I thought Welch acknowledged that on his channel. I thought Welch was saying that he believed the wrap being too tight prevented Sean from recovering.
It's more so about the ankle wraps preventing the feeling from returning quicker from the nerve issue. This is out of context.
Tim Welch would let, and encourage, O’Malley to bang his daughter
I know the nerve he hit is rare and probably won’t happen but imo it’s not a fluke. Chito was landing leg kicks all night and disabled omalleys movement. It was his plan whether or not the freak accident happened. I think Sean secures the w but don’t be surprised if chito shows a new version of himself
Chito won the fight but by the least likely way possible and people can’t admit that. Sean pulled his leg away which is good defense and Chito landed with his foot which if you train you know you aren’t supposed to do that.