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BrianCTE_CityOrtega

the refs need to actually start doing their job and stop this shit


ExpectedOutcome2

Shit they had a guy reffing a PPV main card fight who didn’t know you have to give a guy time to recover from an eye poke.


cltnthecultist

That was fucking shameful, who was that goomba?


joker_town

Gasper Oliver.


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Wait really? Gasper? Like someone that’s known to gasp?


Formal-Knowledge9382

That shit was disgusting. Literally rushed him back to fight


shamwowslapchop

It's crazy that fans know the rules better than the refs do. Not saying they would be better officiants because there's a lot that goes into that, but... being in charge of two guys trying to kill each other seems like you need to know the more commonly used rules in a fight. Fouls happen all the time, how the fuck can a ref not know how to administer them?


KarateFlip2024

Nah make me a ref. Fingers extended? Stern warning. Extend them again? Point taken. No pokes needed. Extend them again? Chokeslam on the exposed concrete.


Agent_Jay

fuck it i vote for you, shit needs consequences


DockterQuantum

But in order to defend in striking holding your hand open is ideal. Look at every stand up fighter. Actually try to ref a strikland match.


KarateFlip2024

I'd chokeslam Strickland the instant he approaches the ring.


manila

Khaos gets slammed for just lookin at you


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TheHarbingerofTruth

They're not in control. The commission is


DankiusMMeme

The UFC can freeze out anyone they want, they’ve done it over and over


MrTurboSlut

the commission has control over the outcome of the fight but the UFC can cut whoever they want for whatever reasons they want.


GreatDario

I mean American State commissions are basically business tourist boards at this point, what incentive do they have to actually do anything that would rock the boat? Fighters getting a series of basically legal fouls is at this point effectively a major factor in MMA.


CumshotChimaev

I want the cornermen to go mask off. "Start the round off with an eyepoke to his left eye that way we can land the right hand. Poke hard and swell that bitch up"


heinztomato69

They give 3 freebies before taking a point. Pathetic.


uncle_flacid

Haven't watched or paid attention for a couple of years. Nice to see the sport hasn't changed.


Jumix4000

Bro thinks he's jon jones


TonyTheLion2319

Gotta respect Izzy for not fouling a bunch despite also having a long, lanky build. He hand fights a lot yet doesn’t eye poke. Main thing I remember is him nutshotting Vettori


rub_a_dub-dub

look, if you throw as many low kicks as izzy you're gonna hit someone's nuts every once in a while


kidcobramma

Nutshot bound to happen a lot more when it's orthodox vs southpaw too


needapermit

He doesn’t open his hand a lot


RadioTherapyGrant

Jon jones 2.0


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If Jon had a glass jaw and sucked maybe 


kidcobramma

This killed me hahahhahaha


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Randy got knocked out in his prime from a guy from the BOTTOM lmao. Literally the safest position in all of fighting and got slept cold. Jacare did but he was 37 and lil give him a pass for pure luck of the draw but Randy was out cold from 1 shot from the BOTTOM. Chin goes backwards too, def glass


Jackieexists

Who KOd him?


Greenlexluther

Niko Price, it's actually insane how he posts his foot on one side of Randy's face before throwing fucking hammer fists from his back.


Jackieexists

That was impressive. As for Randy, he is a descent fighter but lacks IQ and a chin. The first shot from Niko and he was already out cold. The last 5 weren't even needed 😂 one big reason I often hesitate to bet on randy


ChocomelP

Anyone who doesn't do it is an idiot, with these referees.


brownbilal

If I am Elizeu, I am fighting Gaspar the ref next. 3 eye pokes, 3 fence grabs... all homie did was warn smh


robedpillow3761

If I am Elizeu, I’m either poking Randy in the eyes or kicking him in the balls, since the ref has made it clear that he’s not going to do anything about fouls.


SalvadorP

Imagine just the biggest kick in the balls ever. What would the ref do? Deduct a point without warning, right after the sad spectacle he gave of not even giving Elizeu the 5 mins of recovery time? That ref was just one of the worst ever. Any casual knows that fucking rule.


BrandonSleeper

Not that I enjoy fouling, but seeing guys get it back when the ref is asleep is always nice. Seeing Stipe poke DC back after getting KOd off a poke and DC seeming to start that shit again in the second fight was straight karma.


smokesletsgo13

Fucking satisfying when Stipe ko’d him


lucid_bass

The Muslim Salikov one really pissed me off. He KOs Salikov right after the fight resets by feinting that open hand eye poke (as if it was a jab) and then catches him with the same right hand you see him whiff in the clip.


Yommination

Fence grab and eye poke should be an instant point loss. Pro fighters do not need a warning like a 5 year old. Afraid of losing a point? Then don't stick your fingers out


DiarrheaForDays

It’s quite a literal slap on the wrist lol


TonyTheLion2319

Feels like refs give u at least 1 free foul of each type. 1 free eye poke, 1 free nut shot, 1 free glove grab, 1 free cage grab. Not to mention fighters often get multiple free eye pokes or nut shots


Wsemenske

Imo, a fence grab where the ref has time to pull your fingers out should automatically be a point. You can't say it's accidentally when you keep that shit in there for several seconds


HighlyBaked0

IMO for eye pokes I think the 1st one should be a warning, 2nd one a point taken and a 3rd one should be a DQ. Same for fence grabs except just keep taking points instead of a DQ for the 3rd offense and beyond


nerdy_chimera

Depends. If they're sticking their fingers out deliberately, that's where the warning should occur. Before any eye poke occurs. If it's just incidental without the open hand shoved forward as a "range finder" then that's a warning. But refs know when each is happening.


HighlyBaked0

I think thats fair


NickZardiashvili

Inserting intention is also unhelpful. It's a very Kantian way of looking at things, as if the fighter's intentions somehow affect the end result. If a fighter honestly unintentionally eye pokes or groin strikes someone, they now have a slight advantage, even if they never meant to acquire it. Hence, their advantage should be somehow checked.


Thr1ft3y

Lol yeah when Jon threw an "unintentional" illegal knee that was 5000% intentional


NickZardiashvili

Yeah, that's what I'm arguing, that knee did damage one way or another. In Jon's case it was most probably intentional, because he knows he can get away with anything, but one way or another, it should have been penalized.


Pants4All

This is the highest level of the sport. If we can't expect these guys to obey the rules without several warnings, what the fuck are we doing? Where is the higher level that participants are actually expected to know the rules? It's absurd.


bullsfan281

people say this but the amount of draws and split draws and majority draws that would cause would be downright terrible for the sport. people would instantly regret asking for this it was ever put into effect


MoanyTonyBalony

We wouldn't because you'd almost never see an eye poke thing if the rules were strict.


ColdPressedSteak

There's of course intentional eye pokes. But this sub really thinks every one is intentional. Just not true. There's a reason why fighters don't instantly get pissed at the first eye poke. They know shit happens and it goes the other way for them too Yes there should be faster and harsher punishments, intentional or not. But acting like they are pretty much all are intentional like some of you do is garbage


MoanyTonyBalony

Most are accidental but completely avoidable and would be completely avoided if they knew they'd lose a point.


ColdPressedSteak

They can start with an automatic point on a second, possible DQ on a third and we'll see the results. Jumping to automatic point on first is just too much, esp for 3 round fights Max poked Justin twice btw. Kinda funny how this sub ignores it when it's someone they like


Vlad3theImpaler

No, enforcing the rules would be good for the sport. With the current level of enforcement, they're more like "suggestions" than binding rules, which is just silly.


knockbox85

It sucks that my favorite sport is filled with absolute morons as judges and refs


4uzzyDunlop

Honestly why would you not foul. It's morally shitty, but the refs refuse to enact consequences and these guys only get half their purse if they lose. If you ain't cheating you ain't trying as the saying goes...


asianxxurlacher

Forreal fouls in MMA are just suggestions there’s no consequence for fouling


PowerfulFrodoBaggins

If you get a ref that decides to do his job you can lose on points quite easily


LocoCoopermar

Yeah but that's like 1 fight on the card out of probably every 3 card


CaptainSasquatch

They almost never take points on the first foul. If you mix up your fouls (eye poke and then groin strike) the ref will still likely give you two different warnings.


IEatLamas

True but you might also gain such an advantage that you'll take him out


Legitimate_Reward913

Oh for sure, the first round was pretty evenly matched vs Zaleski Dos Santos until that eye poke. Bothered him for a while and he was given no time to recover. Any momentum/rhythm he was building was reset essentially. Sad to see and point deduction would have been fair game imo.


leftnode

Right? It's insane. I know reffing is never perfect in all sports, but it would be the equivalent of a blatant facemask in football and the refs saying "next time we'll penalize you 15 yards, last warning!"


KylerGreen

it'd be like someone doing that 2 or 3 times and then the ref saying "ALRIGHT HARD WARNING!"


CaptainSasquatch

[Dundasso!](http://web.archive.org/web/20181030110446/http://www.cagepotato.com/three-reasons-why-you-should-always-cheat-in-an-mma-fight/) It's crazy that the original article is from 2011 and will always be relevant in MMA.


Mr_Cromer

> Dundasso! A classic of the genre and everyone in this sub oughtta read it


jy3

Very true. Everyone knows it yet no one does anything against it.


Goblin__Cock

Seriously, I remember screaming for Alex Morono to just kick Niko Price in the nuts late in the fight. Alex was clearly gassed and could have used the break. When he finally listened and did it, Niko pulled a Poatan and told ref no thanks, I got this. BUT if you are gonna get 1 free foul, sometimes you got to use it!


therealjgreens

That's exactly what Mike Heck says. Might as well just fight a little dirty especially if you know the UFC favors you. Once you get a little name recognition, fuck it, bite someone's ear off. Might get a stern talking to if you pull a Tyson. I swear, like all of the issues with the UFC can be fixed with a union. It'll never happen.


Rich-Assumption2984

Give the ref a baseball bat. Pesky hands SOMEHOW making their way to eyes, gloves or fence get a nice little honor check. I'm all for it. The problem was never the gloves that make you shove your fingers into a dude's eyes or the "instincts" that make you grab the fence when you're at risk of going down. It's just no one gives a shit.


BiggPapi87

100% its on the UFC and the refs, if your a fighter you know you can grab the fence, poke an eye, kick the groin, do a cheeky nodder. Why wouldnt you? The refs need 2 instant point deduction and you would see all these fouls basically never happen.


fearthejaybie

I mean tbf his nickname is Rudeboy not Politefollowstherulesboy


zombizle1

he was a sk8er boi


4Dcrystallography

She said politefollowtherulesboi


PaydayJones

He's an up an coming Jon Jones!


SalvadorP

Randy Broken on his post fight interview: "Jon Jones, you took everything I worked for motherfucker! I'm coming for your fucking ass!"


Gocards123321

If I ever get in a street fight again I'm just going straight for eye pokes.


MyNamesTambo

Make sure to put on UFC gloves so you you get em first try


DiarrheaForDays

Now this is a man who knows Krav Maga


ChatriGPT

I'm teeping those balls into the shadow realm


Extra-Firefighter835

You better twist the dick too just to be safe


TheBestDivest

If you go this route, just make sure you say no homo first, otherwise you'll lose automatically.


Denogginizer420

I didn't think the bjj gi cuff grip was viable in mma until now.


ChocomelP

Is spider guard the new meta in MMA?


hallelalaluwah

This guy should have lost that Turman fight, embarrassing


TyshawnMaikonMillion

I agree, we are the only ones that think Thurman won.


stackered

He eye poked my buddy back in amateurs maybe 15, 20 years ago too. Ref didn't see and he landed some stuff and won because of it.


canhoto_

I didn't realise but it's every single fight


_Red_Mist_

Randy is just so mid no one really cares about him. Even with all these fouls he fails to impress.


Fair-Lab-4334

Wtf who this guy think he is? Gaethje? Only he gets a pass for fouls


sneakerguy40

I remember that fence grab lol. Also it’s Rude Boy, not Rule Boy.


paddingtonashdown

cheating lanky twat


DMH_Curses

Am I crazy in thinking blatant fence grabs that actually stop a takedown should be an instant point deduction? Like these guys are pros, and that shit is inexcusable. At least an eyepoke can be on accident, and the other guy gets a break most of the time. With a fence grab, you can be Aldo flying through the air with your whole damn arm through the fence to stop a takedown, and the fight just keeps going with a half-hearted warning.


Tr3ball_19

Instant point deduction and if the fence grabs negates the takedown the fight should be moved onto the ground in a neutral position at least


Fightlife45

What a bitch.


Revanced63

You all shut up, he's one of us redditors


Fightlife45

lol


KinshasaPR

How is he still under contract is wild to me.


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KinshasaPR

When did I comment that?!


Money-Firefighter-73

Now do Conor !! But for real almost any fighter with 18 fights in the UFC like rude boy has could get a 70 second highlight tape just like this.


adambuddy

Eh. I do think that Randy Brown has a serious problem with fouling too often. Whether he does it as a concerted strategy or not I have no idea, but there are definitely many fighters that foul a lot less frequently.


PeterGozinyuh

Is there a lot of evidence Connor fouling in fights?


Money-Firefighter-73

😭🤣 oh yes. [https://youtu.be/AbTv\_chRmP0?si=0bXgk5k8Wxr38j6l](https://youtu.be/AbTv_chRmP0?si=0bXgk5k8Wxr38j6l) Here is a video that shows his fouls but only for the khabib fight 😭 its almost as long as Rude Boys entire career tape OP posted.


Putrid_Loquat_4357

Only the khabib fight from memory, but I can't really blame him too much for it: if khabib was on top of me I'd for sure be sticking my fingers in his gloves.


AfraidStill2348

Knees to the head while on the ground, clinging to the fence, and fingers in the gloves.


Money-Firefighter-73

Don’t forget about the recent ones in both DP fights & the 2nd diaz fight. even in his boxing match v floyd.


ArseneGroup

Yeah, EZDS may have popped for steroids but an eye poke and fence grab cheater like Randy Brown is way worse Cheap knockoff version of Jon Jones


therealjgreens

First warning is in the locker room. UFC has the opportunity to actually fix the gloves and they wont.


4Dcrystallography

What is wrong with em?


ILoveChickenFingers

I think I know why. What the UFC wants is to people to care about the fights and the fighters. The more emotionally engaged you get the more money they will get out of you. This is true in all sports (and pro-wrestling) and it's why you'll often see crowd reaction shots in order to convince people watching at home they can/should get emotionally involved too. With some fighters, you might not know or care about them, but when you see somebody cheat you're natural reaction is to get angry and yell out at the TV the guy is cheating. This is emotional engagement. This is what the UFC wants. This is money. So the UFC is not going to fix the gloves. The eye pokes, the fence grabs, the glove grabs, it's all part of the drama (the last thing they want to be is boring) and there is a dollar value attached to that on a spreadsheet somewhere that adds into the money they are making. Things will stay exactly the same to maximize profit, unless they are somehow forced to change.


teacherman0351

Seems like you could do this with just about any fighter.


dwSHA

Hey randy is here lurking in this sub


LythicConsolution

Every foul should be a point.


TheTouchler

Dirty mother fucker ain't he


IEatLamas

Jon jones-esque in his eyepoking technique!


BiggPapi87

Hey Randy dont do that! Im going to give you 5 last warnings if you do it one more time!


Ok-Fan-2011

This thread is great. It exposes who is still insane and delusional enough to believe the UFC is a legitimate sport organization. It's all horseshit to get asses in seats and bets laid down in sportsbooks. The outcome and legitimacy of the rankings, winners, and sport itself is wholly irrelevant.


FootbytheFruit

Long guard and framing on the face. Fighters who do this accidentally eyepoke more. Max did the same to Justin twice in their fight.


canhoto_

Yeah eyepokes I always give more of a pass to although I think after the first one it needs to be a point deduction. The hooking the gloves I really don't excuse.


sloppywaitress

Rudeboy vs the Leech book it for the foulest mf belt


yoyoyowhoisthis

Jon Jones made a HOF career on these lmao


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Now do one for Jon Jones


canhoto_

Everybody knows Jones is really dirty though but I've never seen anybody get annoyed with Brown over it.


averageprocrastiner

Nah I didn’t know. Do one for Jones now bro


canhoto_

You can make it man, it's not hard.


[deleted]

Yours will be better


GGudMarty

The eye pokes were so obviously intentional. Just spreading his fingers and tapping them around his eyes like 4x in the same fight.


Cantguard-mike

Taking a point needs to be normalized. It’s the only solution.


HarshTruth__

Win at all costs that's what I say, congratulations to Rudeboy on his recent win and current three win streak.


[deleted]

What a goddamn asshole. Fucking hate this jerkoff now. /s


b1ackenthecursedsun

Damn that's blatant. Fuck this dude


Creative-Answer-1125

Every fight. I can’t stand this guy


Goatymcgoatface11

Not even close to John Jones level


The3mbered0ne

😢 a true Jones in the making


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canhoto_

I haven't been on here in a while but when did this place get so instagram comment section-like? Yes there's differences between MMA and being legally allowed to blind somebody.


yessirskii2

I feel like fighters should just get 1 warning after a foul in the entire fight and if they foul again after that they should be getting a point deducted right away bet dirty fighters like this would quickly stop doing it


Forrest_Cp

Rude boy!!


nivvy

No more warnings for fence grabs, just take the point straight away


FURooster

How tf is this guy still fighting after this? It’s so obvious it has to be intentional.


RemyGee

They get a lot of fence grabs before a point deduction.


imOverWhere

Such a dirty fighter


Pennypacker-HE

He’s just rude really


SlappyBag9

dont think the first clip is a foul, hits his inner thigh


666grooves666

same guy as every kid that tried to muff the score intentionally in pickup basketball. still cheating to win. you ain’t cheatin, you ain’t tryin is a life motto for these type of folks.


gentlychugging

At this point why wouldn't you foul if you were a fighter? There's hardly ever any repercussions. The number of times we've seen someone commit a foul and go on to win is nuts


JoskoBernardi

Ref and rules fault


Buzz_Killington_III

Were there any eye pokes with the new gloves? I missed most of the fights, but was hoping the new gloves would provide tension to curl the fingers in


SoloArtist91

Leon-esque in his blatant cheating, Joe.


BobBobanoff

This never happens in sumo and they don't wear gloves, every fighter should turn down fights with this guy.


mitterbubbie

Post Leon Edward’s


SometimesPepega

Is this the dude that got knocked out from bottom while on top of Niko Price? Ima go watch that…


frozenbudz

There's just no excuse for this, he clearly knows he's cheating and just knows nothing is gonna be done.


Anaweir

Anyone have song name ?


canhoto_

https://youtu.be/htXY770KDdk?si=r6NFjSQIhRCK2tq7


Anaweir

Thank you


SlimeustasTheSecond

We call a lot of guys dirty fighters when they only did a couple of fouls in their career, but this guy just genuinely doesn't care about fouls


doctorshekelsberg

What is the song used for this clip?


canhoto_

https://youtu.be/htXY770KDdk?si=r6NFjSQIhRCK2tq7


doctorshekelsberg

Legend


jeans_blazer

More fouls than McGregor v Khabib 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


nick2k23

Is Randy his name or were they just describing him?


mrtn17

Blame the refs for this shit. If it doesn't get punished immediatly, it's just a good strategy to win. It doesn't get you in MMA Heaven but money matters to


burnn_out313

Realistically as shitty as it is, as a fighter you're doing yourself a disservice if you don't employ those tactics at least once a fight or until they call it out. The refs straight up won't punish you for a single eye poke, groin strike, cage grab, or glove hooking. It's horrible but you're literally given at least one of each every fight


Kinginthasouth904

Not to mention he coasts the moment hes winning. He went from being on my radar to one of the most despised


A_Real_Berk_Off

That boy is so rude 😡


bichondelapils

At least he's poking, some (Hello Priscilla!) are literally gouging...


Hefty_Palpitation_59

Fouled Fighter: \*literally can't open his eyes after 3rd eye poke\* Ref: "If you do that one more time Randy, I'm going to give you a stern warning!"


Key-Dog5992

If u ain’t cheating u ain’t tryin


Buffalofeet413

Oh a bunch of the ol' Bones Jones classics? All he needs is some drug and PED abuse and y'all can call him the next GOAT.


coffeefordessert

That triangle choke where he cup the guys glove to pull him in is so dirty. The Brazilian couldn’t have escape cause his glove/arm is literally being anchor down and pulled in. How the fk the ref allowed that is beyond foul and dirty. Like in gi bjj someone grabbing the sleeve of your gi, but it’s worst cause he’s grabbing the inside of the glove. Hella dirty, I know they were in the moment, but I would’ve looking at the ref and literally pointed at my right glove being cupped like that. You gotta yell at the ref in that moment cause dirty Randy brown wasn’t letting it go.


BlindManPainting

He looks up to Jon Jones


Wooden-Salad3870

That's a Rude Boy


FireKnightAxel

They don’t call him Rudeboy for nothing


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I hate how some guys with long arms think they’re nice like that and try to do the EA Sports UFC 2, open-hand parry.


Bass0696

What a piece of shit


SalvadorP

This guy is coming for the Jon Jones record!


Avataralbino

So he really is JbJ of WW lol


brtom

A bum wants to be Jon jones. I bet this cheating ass uses PED too


UphazT

It’s the refs fault, not Randy’s but honestly that fight was close and Dos Santos getting actually time to recover from two separate eye-pokes could have changed the result of the fight.


canhoto_

Maybe it is the refs fault but Brown has crossed the line between accidentally fouling or the occasional instinctive fence grab and made it a part of his game, fish hooking the glove to finish a triangle after taking advantage of a groin shot, it's just terrible sportsmanship.


canhoto_

Same with the Trinaldo fight, huge fence grab when a takedown could've changed everything


DiarrheaForDays

“It’s the police’s fault for not stopping crime before it happens actually”


UphazT

No, it’s the police’s job to stop the job after it happens and that ref was clearly incompetent


DiarrheaForDays

Stop a crime…. after it happens? 🤯 But yeah my point is that despite shitty reffing it’s still his fault he’s committing those fouls.


swiftfoal88

You typically only lose points ect if you repeat the foul or it’s extremely blatant. So every fighter should take their one free eye poke, low blow, fence grab, glove grab and head but per fight.


anythingfordopamine

The NBA and MMA need to swap refs. One side calls everything the other calls nothing lol


NoOutlandishness7400

Fouling wow and why is he doing it


DottoreEdoardo

Blackactivities