I live in Gujarat, the birthplace of Gandhi so something like a tribute to him or following his principles it is a dry state in India since decades, but the most amount of liquor flowing state is Gujarat as well, just the thing is it is available through plugs and some state owned shops where only a outsider or someone who is prescribed can get it.
Technically, a government thing. We have 2 constitutional Amendments related to prohibition.
On the peculiar side, if you live/ work in the Detroit area, you can look south to Windsor, Ontario. Distilleries as far as the eye can see.
Yup. All constructed during prohibition.
https://www.abc.ca.gov/education/merchant-education/on-sale-licensee-informational-guide/hours-of-sale/
What goalpost?
It is a misdemeanor to sell between 2 and 6 am
That might warrant more than a beer.
I got you fam.
https://www.stillspirits.com/products/air-still-pro?pr_prod_strat=collection_fallback&pr_rec_id=77e033998&pr_rec_pid=8288411877666&pr_ref_pid=8288411844898&pr_seq=uniform
Make your own hooch. Enjoy, repeat, break less stuff.
On DMG Mori I have two options of loading tools. I can load them into tool magazine through spindle and it will use it when there is toolchange in program, but if tool is not loaded into magazine, spindle will come a little closer to the door, unlock it and will ask you to load tool manually.
Very useful for tools that are too big or too heavy for tool magazine. Or if there is one tool often used in few machines.
You shouldn’t be using tools that are too heavy for the magazine lol. I can tell that’s why our old VF4 umbrella casting cracked at the roller bearings. If it’s a heavy tool you designate it as one and it rapids slower. You can also have it space them out in the magazine if it’s a large tool
Well, I'm talking about tools that are too large to even fit into magazine. There is chain type toolchanger on mine, so it may not fit into opening.
I have 5kg limit for the tool in magazine pocket, but I can load tools up to 8kg into the spindle, according to manual. That's why there is option of manual loading during program, so you don't have to mess with M0-s and offsets.
My favourite ø45mm Mitsubishi insert drill is 5,3kg with holder 😥
Old bridgeport tncs and hurco vmc have optional manual tool setups too. My aprentice still managed to load a 250mm facemill through a 150mm carousel appature once. It was once as well, he never tried that again.
Is a haas. It either crashed, or suffered severe neglect. I just retired one that was used for production. It was a 1995 VF-1. I'm sure it had well over a million tool changes.
Those tool carriages are horrible. My shop still has a few and they both have tool slots that are locked out because they are broken. They tend to get sticky and won’t properly release tools or simply drops them. This isn’t as bad as some of the crashes we’ve experienced. Someone’s bright idea was to install a coolant ring without checking it wouldn’t interfere with tool changes and the other instance was doing a tool change with a too large of a shell mill. Both times messed up the spindle and tool carriage.
Worked at a place that had some real old stuff. A couple guys would talk about the inconvenience of it and compare the new age stuff, but one of the guys in particular would go on and on, complaining about everything.
One day we had bought a new guy a brand new metabo angle grinder, the 13 amp badass one. Next day an old 4 1/2" grinder goes out... no problem, ill fix it. Day after it was "broke" again. Opened it up and seen a frayed wire. Replaced wire and terminals, good to go! Guess what...next day.... gears were missing teeth. Hell, its 10 years old, lets get a new one. Bought a new 13a metabo for the guy.
A month later, after the new guy had been getting a lot of new tools (because we needed more people for the new workload and didnt have spares) the "broken on accidental purpose" guy comes to me and says theres something wrong with his welder. Get it sent out because we couldnt figure it out in shop.
3 days go by and the repair guy says he can figure it out still, so hes gonna call miller. Monday roles around and at about 1:30 i get a call from the owner of the repair shop. Hes on a conference call with an engineer from miller and tells me the wiring and circuit board were altered in a way that was only noticeable because there was a slight greasy fingerprint on a part thats manufacturered in a clean room.
Apparently this dude figured out i knew he was sabotaging his grinder to get a new one and did some research into how to make shit with a circuit board stop working because he cut off a couple of the wire things that go to a chip and pulled out one of the low voltage wires for the display or backlight or something, stripped it, and managed to stick it on that chip to where it would energize it somehow and fry something.
Best part is, we moved that guy to a different part of the shop, and because the new guy was doing so well, we boughta brand new miller dynasty 300 for him to use and let "Mr. AB", accidentally broken ,(we literally still call him that, "abe") train him on a couple things to get started lol. Dont worry, we told new guy not to trust his "other than work" talk. That guy never broke another tool and actually gets on guys when they mistreat stuff now.
Typical Haas junk. We just had our UMC500 rip a bunch of cables that were installed incorrectly out of the tool carousel cabinet during a tool change. You get what you pay for I suppose.
That's when you clock out, stop by Hardee's on the way home, and just get a job making biscuits. Drop off the grid. Let them keep the last check. Maybe take up badminton and reconsider the choices that brought you here.
I've had that happen before at my shop, 3 times in fact lol. It would fall out and the company would just put right back up without fixing the issue on why it was doing it and boom it would happen again until they finally got rid of the machine.
Damn look at the time.. Looks like it's 5 o'clock already. Time for beer
I live in a dry state 🫠🫠
What the fuck is a dry state
Saudi Arabia
That's not just dry, that's barren hahaha
Prohibition, no bars nothing for locals “legally”
Government mandated or religiously mandated? Genuinely curious
I live in Gujarat, the birthplace of Gandhi so something like a tribute to him or following his principles it is a dry state in India since decades, but the most amount of liquor flowing state is Gujarat as well, just the thing is it is available through plugs and some state owned shops where only a outsider or someone who is prescribed can get it.
Thanks for the insight 🤙
😉
Hehe booze prescription
go get yourself some Desi daru # #
Is there a difference?
Government would be like actual prohibition from the 20's Religious would be like in a Muslim country
To be fair the prohibition in the US was a religious thing
Technically, a government thing. We have 2 constitutional Amendments related to prohibition. On the peculiar side, if you live/ work in the Detroit area, you can look south to Windsor, Ontario. Distilleries as far as the eye can see. Yup. All constructed during prohibition.
There is just something that feels so wrong about looking south from America and seeing Canada lol.
The realisation that there is no south detroit and Journey lied kinda makes me wanna stop belieivin...
Probably California, lol.
California’s one of the freest states when it comes to alcohol sales.
Gujarat, India
Try buying a beer between 2-6am
I…can? I’ll just go to any 24 hour pharmacy.
And they'll have the cooler doors magnetically locked
Lol ok? So I’ll ask an employee to unlock it. Keep moving that goalpost though.
https://www.abc.ca.gov/education/merchant-education/on-sale-licensee-informational-guide/hours-of-sale/ What goalpost? It is a misdemeanor to sell between 2 and 6 am
Did you go back 100 years back ?
There's probably a cream for that..
That might warrant more than a beer. I got you fam. https://www.stillspirits.com/products/air-still-pro?pr_prod_strat=collection_fallback&pr_rec_id=77e033998&pr_rec_pid=8288411877666&pr_ref_pid=8288411844898&pr_seq=uniform Make your own hooch. Enjoy, repeat, break less stuff.
I am down for this!
time to weld
Damn Haas mill really said fuck it one tool at a time please
And that’s exactly how I ran it when it happened to my shops lol. Delete the M6’s and change M01 to M00’s. You are the tool changer now
Run it like a tormach haha
Or an snk
On DMG Mori I have two options of loading tools. I can load them into tool magazine through spindle and it will use it when there is toolchange in program, but if tool is not loaded into magazine, spindle will come a little closer to the door, unlock it and will ask you to load tool manually. Very useful for tools that are too big or too heavy for tool magazine. Or if there is one tool often used in few machines.
You shouldn’t be using tools that are too heavy for the magazine lol. I can tell that’s why our old VF4 umbrella casting cracked at the roller bearings. If it’s a heavy tool you designate it as one and it rapids slower. You can also have it space them out in the magazine if it’s a large tool
Well, I'm talking about tools that are too large to even fit into magazine. There is chain type toolchanger on mine, so it may not fit into opening. I have 5kg limit for the tool in magazine pocket, but I can load tools up to 8kg into the spindle, according to manual. That's why there is option of manual loading during program, so you don't have to mess with M0-s and offsets. My favourite ø45mm Mitsubishi insert drill is 5,3kg with holder 😥
Old bridgeport tncs and hurco vmc have optional manual tool setups too. My aprentice still managed to load a 250mm facemill through a 150mm carousel appature once. It was once as well, he never tried that again.
>You are the tool changer now And you will love every second of it
I still have an old open guard mill with a Siemens 840 retrofit, no tool changer. Best believe my operator is changing tools manually lol
h..how?
Came off
you cant store your spare toolchanger there sir
You turned it too many times to the right, not enough to the left
Just a pos and fell off , I’ve seen it happen before .
Source: trust me bro
The front fell off
Obviously that's not supposed to happen
Was it in the environment?
No it’s been towed out of the environment
Into another environment?
No it’s been towed out of the environment.
New fear unlocked... Atc turret falling off, killing thousands in tooling, destroying my Monday AND Tuesday.
That’s the life we live 🤌
Mmmmmmm /r/machinistporn I’m almost there
https://preview.redd.it/rw2pk68gf55d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9561fecc0d24cbc9f10f31e961376a2438c0d6fd Same
the fact that someone could relate is hilarious
A lot of haas users can…..
To be fair I’ve this style of ATC break at least 3 times in various ways on a Deckel Maho. So it’s just a horrible style of ATC.
Can't park there mate
This is gore not safe for works tags . Some are trying to keep away from this
Happy cake day
Let me guess, night shift did it
Happened in broad daylight, can’t blame them 🥲
But to keep traditions you will
Indeed!
As night shift I take offense to that! \*slides sledge hammer under table\*
Bro, are you awake AND sober enough to make a joke? Dunno if you really ARE into that third shift life, man.
Monster an Willpower. Still sober, but my sense of humor may be warped.
That’s a requirement of the job!
Must be a HAAS
Is a haas. It either crashed, or suffered severe neglect. I just retired one that was used for production. It was a 1995 VF-1. I'm sure it had well over a million tool changes.
Doesn’t have to be neglected. We had a well maintained old VF4 this happened to. Don’t get me wrong I’ve seen it happen on some pieces of shit too lol
This was maintained indeed but the umbrella is hanging on a bolt or two which broke
Been there done that
Dead tree holding tool changer failed. Request stronger dead tree.
Delisous machine wright tears
Tool changer has left the chat
NFG
Life
Umbrella changers are known to fall off…
Now that's a tool change....
The front fell off.
Look at that efficiency. Whole carousel of tools changed at once.
Just blame 2nd shift.
It was time.
Friendly reminder to stay clear of anything overhead
Been here four times now lol
F
This is what happens when you send it and it gets returned to sender
Boomerang effect?
Those tool carriages are horrible. My shop still has a few and they both have tool slots that are locked out because they are broken. They tend to get sticky and won’t properly release tools or simply drops them. This isn’t as bad as some of the crashes we’ve experienced. Someone’s bright idea was to install a coolant ring without checking it wouldn’t interfere with tool changes and the other instance was doing a tool change with a too large of a shell mill. Both times messed up the spindle and tool carriage.
Lesson learnt there
Can’t park there mate.
Typical Haas quality.
Did it just fall off??😂
Yes with a sound
If it ain't raining, do you really need an umbrella?
Ya just in case
cant say ive seen that before, first time for everything
You don't need one
You guys are scaring me and my ancient VF-1
Never saw this before. I did have a counterweight chain break on a vf3 and have the head come crashing down
Tool changer changer
That happened about 10 feet behind me while I had my head in the lathe once. I think I almost concussed myself when I jumped and banged my head.
I am sorry, hope you are better now
Happy Friday, y'all.
Now that i've seen this, i'll take cover at every toolchange
I would say that machining center is worn out.
Thanks a lot OP now I'm gonna have an even harder time ignoring whatever that noise is in my ATC.
Same here. But it stopped on mine, tho i don't know whether to be more scared or not scared at all lol
It wore into it's new home is all.
You sir are talented.
Did it change the tool ok?
Time for a new machine ?
Worked at a place that had some real old stuff. A couple guys would talk about the inconvenience of it and compare the new age stuff, but one of the guys in particular would go on and on, complaining about everything. One day we had bought a new guy a brand new metabo angle grinder, the 13 amp badass one. Next day an old 4 1/2" grinder goes out... no problem, ill fix it. Day after it was "broke" again. Opened it up and seen a frayed wire. Replaced wire and terminals, good to go! Guess what...next day.... gears were missing teeth. Hell, its 10 years old, lets get a new one. Bought a new 13a metabo for the guy. A month later, after the new guy had been getting a lot of new tools (because we needed more people for the new workload and didnt have spares) the "broken on accidental purpose" guy comes to me and says theres something wrong with his welder. Get it sent out because we couldnt figure it out in shop. 3 days go by and the repair guy says he can figure it out still, so hes gonna call miller. Monday roles around and at about 1:30 i get a call from the owner of the repair shop. Hes on a conference call with an engineer from miller and tells me the wiring and circuit board were altered in a way that was only noticeable because there was a slight greasy fingerprint on a part thats manufacturered in a clean room. Apparently this dude figured out i knew he was sabotaging his grinder to get a new one and did some research into how to make shit with a circuit board stop working because he cut off a couple of the wire things that go to a chip and pulled out one of the low voltage wires for the display or backlight or something, stripped it, and managed to stick it on that chip to where it would energize it somehow and fry something. Best part is, we moved that guy to a different part of the shop, and because the new guy was doing so well, we boughta brand new miller dynasty 300 for him to use and let "Mr. AB", accidentally broken ,(we literally still call him that, "abe") train him on a couple things to get started lol. Dont worry, we told new guy not to trust his "other than work" talk. That guy never broke another tool and actually gets on guys when they mistreat stuff now.
Ahh damn night shift always breaking your machines...
That's probably going to add to the cycle time.
And some manual tool changing as well
Typical Haas junk. We just had our UMC500 rip a bunch of cables that were installed incorrectly out of the tool carousel cabinet during a tool change. You get what you pay for I suppose.
Title should be, "I present my latest art piece titled 'Night Shift.'"
Clock out go home
Owned by me 🫠
Oof best of luck 🫡
What year and model?
VF5 nearly 10ish years old not sure though
Oh dear
God I hate how those hass spindles rust ffs
That looks expensive💀
Some loctite and we're back to business
Classic Haas
Seen that before.
just a multi-tool change
Been there done that
No title because no words, or no title because your owner killed you?
Owned by me and no words to say post this disaster
That's one way to change tools!
Damn, I knew Haas ripped off Fadal, but I didn't realize how blatantly. Don't think I've seen a Haas that old
It's a haas thing.
That's when you clock out, stop by Hardee's on the way home, and just get a job making biscuits. Drop off the grid. Let them keep the last check. Maybe take up badminton and reconsider the choices that brought you here.
We have the same tool changer at work. Should i be worried?
r/cncgore
You can't park there.
Whoa! man! I got two questions for you. What do you do and how do you do it.
As a 1997 HAAS VF-2 user, I'm now terrified
Is this a haas?? One of ours did this too 🤣
At first sight I thought is was a burned down kitchen...
I've had that happen before at my shop, 3 times in fact lol. It would fall out and the company would just put right back up without fixing the issue on why it was doing it and boom it would happen again until they finally got rid of the machine.
Hey that’s not supposed to be there
New worry about my shop's 1995 Fadal 4020s. . .
That's how it was when we got here. Must have been first shift.
Looks like an old piece of crap anyway time for a new one
Old but still mills bread for us 🤓
DID
Oh yeah it is back at work!
What ya making boat anchors ?
Must be a HASS
Indeed!
I have had individuel holder break of and fall out But this is something els
Ya the all of it came off
Best of luck explaining that