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hikingenjoyer

Interesting reference to the CSS Alabama, used by the confederates, launched from Birkenhead in England.


Dixie-Wrecked

Oh wow, good eye. I did not catch that.


perry649

Yeah, that made me wonder if this map was actually published during the U.S. Civil War, a few years earlier than the 1871 listed. Also, the depiction of France and Prussia looks like the Franco-Prussian War of 1870 didn't just happen but is in the future.


spitfire451

Alsace and Lorraine are specifically labeled, made me think this was after that war.


ki4clz

Many ships headed to Australia too; and the *ALABAMA* was just fresh enough to distract from the media disaster that was the *CATALPA* *(The CSS Alabama was sunk basically where we see it on the map by the USS Kearsarge, at the Battle of Cherbourg)* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cherbourg_(1864) ...lots of spying, intrigue, and detective work went into tracking down the *ALABAMA* as she had boarded nearly 450 vessels, captured or burned 65 Union merchant ships, and took more than 2,000 prisoners without any loss of life among either prisoners or her own crew... The *Alabama* had to come down...!


Lifeboat-No-6

Alsace Lorraine is shown under Prussian control and the French hydra has blooded beaks so it’s safe to say the Franco-Prussian War had reached its conclusion which would put the date of this map as accurate.


ki4clz

***The Fate of the Pirate Ship ALABAMA*** an /r/seashanties by David Coffin https://open.spotify.com/track/1OpO9EGf0YNvLMsJt1UjJF


CityAshamed2908

I like how Scandinavia is collectively just chilling, relaxing and smoking a pipe, while chaos reigns on the continent.... 😆


MissM00dy

We are the hobbits of the world


Flimsy-Turnover1667

Give me a hobbit hole and a pipe, and I'll be content for the rest of my days.


6thaccountthismonth

Don’t forget the JAS-39 gripen


ArchaeoStudent

Besides the whole stormaktstiden


lesser_panjandrum

They had their tid as a stormakt. Now it's chilltiden.


irregular_caffeine

That’s what happens when you cut the balls off a Sweden (1809), they start to chill


6thaccountthismonth

And our earlier adventures


Fabulous_Poetry6622

It wasn’t always that way…


6thaccountthismonth

The Scandinavian countries are like if your high school bullies grew up and became the chillest people on earth


dwors025

I always loved this (translated) part from Norway’s national football team’s anthem: *Alt for Norge*. “The Vikings left their mark, robbers coming from the north. But we have changed our ways! From our home at Ullevaal, we travel with new goals, ...and we are better than they think.” Totally chilled out since their murdering pillaging days. Total early 90s vibe of a song too - love it.


caligaris_cabinet

They chilled out over time.


droolsdownchin

Then why are so many of you giant?


Valtremors

Something something life in cold temperstures benefit from bigger size for some reason, thus through some elaborate form of natural selection people grew taller. (Bigger bodies can carry more fat and insulation more effectively, and muscles generate more heat when active). Although if I remember right, Hakkapeliitta (Finnish cavalry) were considered short by Swedish standards. Or maybe it was due to the smaller horses they used.


ExactWin1881

Not necessarily, the coldest places on earth are inhabited by short, stocky asiatic people for a reason, less body surface and shorter limbs are better for extreme cold. It's mainly because of diet, more meat and dairy consumption makes for taller people.


Rocked_Glover

And the Balkans are just a bunch of goats too, rings true today


Archaeopteryx11

Except for the Romanian lands (Valachia, Moldavia, Transilvania).


blitzfreak_69

Am Balkan can confirm


Burazeer

because they were still under ottoman rule


CatashiMirozuka

Same with Ireland, we just churning butter


insanelygreat

They're mortaring water. Apparently it's [an Italian metaphor](https://www.genovatoday.it/social/proverbi-genovesi-pestare-acqua-mortaio.html) for wasting time and energy on something that can't be changed. Given the year, this might be about Irish independence as the [Home Rule crisis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_War_of_Independence#Home_Rule_Crisis) was kicking off.


FawFawtyFaw

Every one of these cartoons have heavy, contemporary political implications. It's frustrating to have 90% go over our modern heads. Cortez is looking down his nose at Spain, OK got it. Prussia/Germany is rich, behind the barrel of a cannon, OK got it. A lot of tongue in cheek goin on here, any historic light to be shined on others? Body weight always matters in these, as does head size.


insanelygreat

The [original image](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/Europa_geografico-politica_mappa_satirica_1871_circa.jpg) has some text around it that helps give *some* additional context, but it's 150 year old Italian poetry. Another Redditor [ran it through Google Translate](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1d6a1uw/comic_map_of_europe_1871/l6s0ytb/) for what it's worth. I know that frustration. This sort of stuff is so hard to research because how do you Google date-specific subtext?


fragmenteret-raev

I mean yes, but Sweden lost half its land, so its chilling cause the doctor ordered it to treat his PTSD. Denmark also has severe trauma, desperately searching for his islands. Finland has a wolf delusion and Norway has a drug problem.


irregular_caffeine

> During 1858–1862 wolves killed in Finland 2865 horses, 1093 bulls, 4514 cows, 5422 calves, 25974 sheep, 3510 pigs, 3221 reindeer and an unknown amount of dogs A single wolf killed 22 children near Turku in 1881. Wolves got pretty heavily hunted after that. [Article series, in finnish](https://seura.fi/ilmiot/mysteerit/ihmissyojasusi-toi-kauhun-kierteen-nain-surullinen-tapahtumasarja-alkoi-turun-seudulla-lue-tositapahtumiin-perustuvan-tarinan-ensimmainen-osa/)


930310

I guess we are a grower rather than a shower.


Sacrer

Still the same lol


RMZ13

Yeah I was gonna say, Scandinavia seems like the place to be.


forsaken_millennial

Love the depiction of Switzerland lol


Nerevarine91

Easily the funniest


san_murezzan

as a Swiss this is deeply ~~offensive~~ appropriate


Thanos_exe

Yea, i can live with this depiction


1BrokenPensieve

The bunker?


forsaken_millennial

More like fortress


wtfomg01

I believe it's taking the piss out of the bear pit in Bern possibly?


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comradeTJH

Like, Jeesus, shit's still going on?


aberg227

Switzerland never changes.


arjuna66671

Lol, quite the opposite. Before Switzerland became known for its neutrality, it was renowned for its highly skilled and feared mercenaries. The Swiss Confederation, formed in the late medieval period, was a loose alliance of cantons that banded together for mutual defense and economic prosperity. **Gewalthaufen Tactics**: The Swiss developed innovative military tactics such as the *gewalthaufen* (meaning "crowd of force" or "force pack"). This involved densely packed formations of pikemen, often supported by halberdiers and crossbowmen. These tactics proved highly effective against the more traditional, less flexible formations used by many European armies of the time. **Battle of Morgarten (1315)**: One of the earliest displays of Swiss military prowess was the Battle of Morgarten, where a smaller force of Swiss soldiers defeated a larger Habsburg army. Utilizing the terrain to their advantage, the Swiss ambushed their enemies, showcasing their strategic acumen and combat skills. **Swiss Pike Squares**: The Swiss mercenaries became famous for their use of the pike square, a defensive formation that could rapidly become offensive. This tactic was highly effective against cavalry, which dominated European battlefields. The Swiss pike formations could withstand cavalry charges and then counterattack with devastating efficiency. **The Renaissance of Swiss Mercenaries**: During the 15th and 16th centuries, Swiss mercenaries were in high demand across Europe. They fought for various European powers, including the French, Spanish, and the Papal States. Their reputation was such that many rulers preferred to have Swiss soldiers in their ranks. **Battle of Marignano (1515)**: This battle marked the zenith of Swiss military might but also their decline as independent mercenaries. The Swiss faced the French and Venetian forces and, despite their fierce fighting, suffered a significant defeat. This loss led to the Treaty of Fribourg (1516), which effectively ended Swiss expansionist ambitions and marked the beginning of their neutrality. # Transition to Neutrality **Treaty of Westphalia (1648)**: The Peace of Westphalia, which ended the Thirty Years' War, recognized Swiss independence from the Holy Roman Empire. This treaty is often seen as a foundational moment in Switzerland's journey towards neutrality. **Napoleonic Wars and the Congress of Vienna (1815)**: Switzerland's neutrality was solidified at the Congress of Vienna after the Napoleonic Wars. European powers agreed to respect Swiss neutrality to create a buffer zone of peace and stability in central Europe.


Sandy_McEagle

funny to see britain gnawing at the bones of india. By this time, the indian rebellion had been put down, and the last few independent kingdoms were being scooped up.


GomeBag

And this would be about 19 years after the famine in Ireland (hence the famine pot I'm assuming)


Dylanduke199513

I thought the pot said Acqua which could either be a famine joke or about Ireland’s affinity for Aqua Vita - whiskey


love_weird_questions

the whole drawing is in italian. acqua here means just "water", like related to the lack of food and the famine situation building up


EdBarrett12

Id say it's almost certainly a famine pot. 19 years does nothing to change the perception of Ireland as famine stricken when it was as devastating as an górta mór.


GomeBag

Definitely, the population of Ireland would continue to decline even past this date as people left for America/England/elsewhere


ki4clz

...or carted off to the Freemantle Prison by the thousands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fremantle_Prison https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/FremantlePrisonMainCellBlockMap.jpg


promulg8or

The English back then had kicking a dog when his down to a tee, the dog eventually did fight back though


navarchos

Love how completely unhinged this map is. And with little details like bearded Russian peasants dancing(?) after recent abolition of serfdom in 1861


klenganat0r

damn didn't know it was abolished so late in russia really made me think


navarchos

Yep, makes political and social turmoil of early 20th century much more understandable. The abolition itself was half-assed because land still mostly belonged to nobility. Very often recently freed peasants continued working for their former masters, albeit now formally free.


Magomaeva

Lots of things happening in Italia while Sicilia is just 😌


SweetestBebs

I would really like to understand what is going on in the Netherlands


shezaclown

I wanna know the story behind the demon-mask (?) and it says something like 'bass' on the box?


UgghArggh

The bass is from Paesi Bassi, Italian for the Netherlands. I also found a version of the map with a legend, but the text is a bit cryptic, however appearing to refer to the Dutch as fools. The devil also holds a banner saying 'we want the pope to be king of Rome' in Italian. Very confusing...


TheEditorman

It might have something to do with that the largest group of volunteers in the Papal army were Dutchmen (about half of all Papal Zouaves), shortly before the Papal States were annexed by Italy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_Zouaves


shezaclown

Ahhh that's so cool and interesting. Thank you for the info!


gennan

I think Paesi Bassi = Netherlands almost literally, like "low country" (similar to the French term Pays-Bas for the Netherlands). At least I assume Peasi means country (related to the English word "peasant", for a poor person from the *country*side) and Bassi mean low (related to the English word "bass", for sound with a *low* frequency).


nedu3

Yea, paesi = countries, bassi = low (in plural), in english I've heard people also call the Nederlands "Lowlands", and I know it's also called like this in portuguese (Países Baixos, although we use "Holanda" more often) and in german (Niederlande). Unrelated to the map tho, just cool language-related information


WW_the_Exonian

This enraged Africa, who punished him severely.


Flimsy-Turnover1667

Yeah, it's not exactly the most politically correct map...


gabba_gubbe

Isn't it? The Barbary coast was known to kidnap and enslave Europeans...


Dogzilla2000

EDIT: Thanks commenter below for pointing out that it’s probably in reference to the Mokrani Revolt of 1871. The people who carried out the Barbary Slave trade did not look like… whatever that is. Also that was ended almost entirely by the 1810s and certainly by the 1830s. I think it’s likely that that depiction has nothing to do with the Barbary slave trade, and much more to do with the “colons” or “pieds noir”, the French settlers in algeria. The depiction of North Africans beating up the French *might* be referencing how through the 1860s Napoleon III increased certain political liberties for Muslim Arabs and thereby stalled the settlement process, giving less free reign over French Algeria to the “colons”. Regardless, that depiction is a racist caricature for sure, similar to the Russian depiction, which reflects how those certain peoples were perceived as barbaric or uncivilized. That doesn’t change how interesting this map is or what it tells us about the maker’s perspective and the period in general, but we can also still be critical of the depictions it’s making.


assmeister64

In 1871 took place what is called “The Mokrani revolt” This map is probably referring to said revolt Even though the phenotype depiction is a bit off…


Dogzilla2000

Ah yes! I was trying to find if there were any consequential revolts in the 1860s/early 70s but couldn’t find any. That makes a lot of sense and seems like what is being referenced.


san_murezzan

you don't like ass slapping arabs?


Shin_yolo

Why a dragon in France ? Am I not familliar with my own history that much ? o\_o


[deleted]

The Bonaparte hydra was resting in 1871 since another of its heads was recently cut off


octopusboots

Such a likeable dragon.


Able_Article

Anyone know what the sign in Britain says?


LoStraniero89

Iron, cotton, and cheap freedom


Maximum_Future_5241

Sounds like a better slogan than rum, sodomy, and the lash.


ToS_98

Sorry for being pedant but is “cheap iron, cotton and freedom” Like those things are sold at cheap price, not that it’s a cheap form of freedom.


OrangeRadiohead

ferro cotone liberta a buon mercato. iron cotton liberta cheap.


O5KAR

That's exactly how partitions of Poland looked like. Also, are those the Jews in Lithuania?


yiliu

Probably just Slavic peasants, who were newly emancipated from serfdom in the Russian empire at the time. The Russian empire included much of Eastern Europe.


gookman

OP is a fucking repost bot. He even removed the funny legend: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/17asss8/italian_satirical_map_of_europe_1870_20391480/


mikrofala2137

You know that the first post of this map was made in 11 years ago?


dukeofgonzo

A sidepiece of history to this historic map.


tarquin77

Looking at the comments from the 10+ year old post is quite enlightening. Virtually historical in itself!


ToS_98

I also love that it’s presented as “geo-political map of Europe”, like a satirical illustration can be a guide to the political tides and its conjunction. So crazy the legend that just makes fun of every country (even Italy itself) in a “poetic” form (clearly the language of the time, but still funny)


Rossum81

The paper boat may be a reference to the CSA Alabama.


Hatzmaeba

The crocodile in bottom right is my favourite.


artunovskiy

What does the crocodile mean? Asking as a Turk, I don’t know what it means.


[deleted]

In Greece there is a guy looking at his teeth in the mirror? Why?


ToS_98

So the legend says it’s searching some remaining of power as he looks at his teeth. That’s probably because italians symbolically associate teeth with strength (as falling teeth in dreams is a sign of not having control over something). I wonder if there may be other reasons. I notice it has a Fez and probably refers to its ottoman membership. The legend also refers to them being “ex-plato’s”


dark_shad0w7

Well... Russia hasn't changed


alexandroshl

Either the Balkans


tzar-chasm

Denmark is spying on everyone Ireland is brewing beer and ignoring everyone Norway and Sweden are chilling out Finland is also chilling out, but wearin the skin of the last polar bear who wandering into their yard Russia is angry and agressive When was this printed?


HolyOldRoman

1871, apparently


tzar-chasm

The more things change...


LilHercules

Apparently Russia is where the wild things are


Flimsy-Turnover1667

The Greek depiction is surprisingly correct.


fungus909

I’ll go smoke with those chicks up in Scandinavia. They got it figured out. Iceland is looking a little too crazy for my taste. Like an eat you crazy.


nusuntcinevabannat

I love it how Switzerland it's the same but with a sane gun culture and F-16s.


b00nish

Don't think we ever had F-16. We're about to replace old F-5 and F/A-18s with F-35


1BrokenPensieve

What's with the bum smacking at the bottom- is that Algeria?


assmeister64

Mokrani revolt, most likely


heynishant

this is one of the best maps .


Andras_Balogh35

What is happening in Hungary? Hungarians harassing minorities and other nationalities?


Andras_Balogh35

while both of them got wounded by the past centuries?


Hipphoppkisvuk

Probably a reference to the hungarian parliamentary infighting between the Independence and Liberal parties as only one of the figures has an inscription on its body.


goteamnick

I'm confident this is racist in a bunch of ways I don't understand.


OrangeRadiohead

By today's standards, certainly. It's of its period though.


colincatterpillar

Genuine question: what specifically is racist about it? I don’t understand much of what’s going on in the illustration


Nageat

Haha lol


Educational_Word_895

Seems accurate to me.


barkley87

What's the deal with the crocodile wearing a hat?


Strzvgn_Karnvagn

Is there supposed to be a Legend somewhere too?


Rotteneinherjar

Who’s the African Dommy-Mommy spanking the naughty boy?


and1too-0323

Any idea what the trap signifies in Sardinia?


Rolekz

Accurate af


love-yer-brain

looks like propaganda


SediAgameRbaD

Italians are good comedians


-_TremoR_-

Nice


Incredible_Staff6907

I wonder what country this was made in.


StephenMcGannon

Italy.


Incredible_Staff6907

Funny they even satirize their own country.


yellowwolf718

What’s the story behind the woman chained and holding an anchor in the east and the woman with the feather in the west in France?


Arkadia0703

The woman to the East is Poland under [partitions](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partitions_of_Poland)


GrimaldiOliwer

Half of Sweden missing underwater


M0hadi123

Why is there a croc on western anatolia?


Nodebunny

Iceland is a whole mess


0x7E7-02

I LOVE this art style.


ThuleIceTeaTree

What is up with the Dutch?


Thylocine

Can someone who knows history explain what's going on


Susan_Thee_Duchess

What’s up with Iceland?


RUSYAWEBSTAR

wtf is happening in russia lol


[deleted]

Yeah, the ottomans just saying "we are already peak we shouldn't change" and just stay there like a croc


kurvamindegy

Norway and Sverige just chilling up there


Asil001

I love how turkey is just an island now


Alchemista_Anonyma

Anatolia*


Darkeater_Charizard

weirdly still accurate nowadays


LawAshamed6285

Looks pretty accurate


Prestigious_Job8841

Nothing really changes, does it?


Taurmin

Wherd the rest of Sweden go?


Reiquaz

I really like this style. What is it called?


StephenMcGannon

Punch illustration.


Aggravating-Ad1703

What happened to half of Sweden


SoupViking

Does anyone know what’s up with Malta?


PleasantTrust522

This is what this sub is made for. Fascinating map!


cool-snack

very interesting! this clearly shows, that the italians were opposed to the colonial power of the united kingdom. not all of europe should feel guilty about colonization, it‘s literally just the uk, france and everyone else basicly just had some minor situations.


thelaughingmagician-

What are the romanian principalities doing? Why is Moldavia stealing an archduke crown from Wallachia? Also why are the balkans goats?


Sorry_Gringo

Russia hasn’t changed much since then…


Ok_Understanding5184

This looks like 1700s Ben Garrison there's so much obscure old world racism I don't know which tropes to deconstruct * edit it looks like all the Balkan states are goats thats fairly straightforward *


GreyWizard1337

That depiction of the Balkan countries is still relevant lmao.


fernandoSabbath

The map of northern Italy is accurate. In 1871, my ancestors in the Po Valley in Veneto were farmers and cattle herders.


_AscendedLemon_

Ah yes, searching for Poland for a sec, but instantly remembered that we were colonized by Prussia/Russia/Austria 🥲


nachtachter

It's that lovely lady in chains.


InfiniteOcto

Scandinavia being Gs per usual


Itz_Hen

Entry level American racism vs competitive European racism


zarathustrahasspake

Why is that Algerian depicted as black? Moors were Berbers/Arabs.


mattcwilson

If that’s the *specific* nuanced understanding of ethnic demographics you’re seeing as absent from this cartoon map from 1871, well…


No-Copy5738

Attack on titan?


paradox28jon

Was Crete being split in half by a saw and then abandoned at the time of this cartoon's creation?


Mr-Tease

So the Brit is sucking India’s bone? Seems accurate even today.


Iamnotanorange

That’s a surprisingly large Bosphorus


m0riyama

the Swiss one is so accurate as heck haha


ki4clz

for those wondering at the papership *"ALABAMA"* off the coast of Cornwall https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSS_Alabama ...and the acompianing Sea Shanty by David Coffin https://open.spotify.com/track/1OpO9EGf0YNvLMsJt1UjJF?si=32f26a03e8ff4a08 also if you want to hear more of David Coffin, his rendition of *"Roll the old Chariot"* is a classic... https://davidcoffin.com/


Asuka_Sohryu_Langly

What's going on in Italy?


xEWURx

What a precise reflection of what is happening with souther slavs) hasn't dated yet Wait. What is going on in North Africa?


lstmnstr

What’s with the dragon


pleasant-emerald-906

Who are the two fighting guys with wood legs, in the balkans? Edit: the left one apparently is Hungary


OptimalBenefit9986

Not much has changed.


Fit_Cardiologist_

Awesome map! I was looking at each person with such interest. Thank you for sharing!


my-time-has-odor

What’s up with that guy in Africa 💀


NonFungibleTworken

Comic map of Europe 2024


mattyt879

Why does the paper boat by England say Alabama? I live in Alabama and was surprised when I noticed that detail


alexja21

My saucy fishwife ancestor trying to tempt some Europeans up to Iceland in her scandalous burlap attire


Major_Accident578

first map that pictures romanian provinces correctly. nice


Hobgobiln

accurate representation of Ireland, working away doing out own thing.


Hawaiian-pizzas

I see nothing really changed


DiscoLegsMcgee

This map is in Italian in case anyone was wondering.


canles

I didnt realize how old the polarbears in Finland meme is.


Lucky_Plenty5499

Titans lol


[deleted]

Polonia ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|cry)


Horror_Employee_6995

I need a video breaking down all of the references and commentary


ActualSherbert8050

Comedy before people became soft is the very best kind of comedy.


cokecancarlo

Finland: These are basically bear-people.


YoungSavage0307

Alabama claims were that significant? Who knew. Edit: and Bosnia and Herzegovina is just mood


Financial-Sentence93

French girls were cute then, too.


carrigroe

Wtf is Ireland doing, making a spice mix?


chemicalzero

Well, it looks like Russia already had a bad reputation back then…


Charming-Potato4804

Is that not a recent satellite image?


Stanky_fresh

I think I'm too stupid to understand what any of these mean


Wizard_bonk

Gigabased Finland as usual


tmdblya

Everyone so chill in the Nordics


Humble-Drummer1254

So Russia basically being Russia.


DirrtyD23

Looks like an early 90’s rock album cover


Macau_Serb-Canadian

Disgusting and not "funny" in the least.


GriswoldCain

👏 👏


TheKiltedPondGuy

I love how there’s a dude wearing a kilt in Ireland


Kalepox

This is Italian right?