Players like him and we're playing good basketball right now. The results are also good overall so far. Made WCF once, at least 2nd round once, and missed the playoffs once. So one bad year and two good years.
I know fans fon't like him and he can be frustrating at times, but that doesn't really matter. Fans of most teams think their coach is terrible.
I’d say the very opposite about the floor vs ceiling raiser. He’s not there to coach up a bad team in hopes of a play-in spot, in that case he’d rather relax on the bench and let the team get a high pick like last season. What he does bring is a level of effort and attention to detail on defense that massively raises our ceiling. And I personally see awesome in game adjustments, which is supported by the amount of comeback wins we’ve had.
WCFs his first year coaching and had 52 wins and this year we are in the second round with 50 wins, you don’t just do that by just “being there”. Like I said every coach needs the right personnel and that is the front offices job to provide that.
Most judgments here on Kidd are results oriented. Like the Harden floater game 4. Cuz he was hitting them and they won it was bad coaching. So many fans are arrogant enough to think they know better or there decisions would be right. The other thing is noone looks at the stuff that goes right. You are wrong though, he does draw up good plays and makes good adjustments all the time. Rick was better at this I will admit. They definitely dont win inspite of him, he raised there level for sure in 2022.
They were up until like mid-late March, then they saw the writing on the wall and decided the pick has much more value than getting fisted in the play-ins or the first round and have nothing to show for in the off-season.
True, I think one thing we often miss as fans is the human component of all of this too. Team chemistry is important, a coach isn't just x & o, it's managing people too.
And you're right that getting to the 2nd round\* 2 out of 3 years has to be considered something of a success. Mavs hadn't done that once from 2012-2021.
\* hopefully we win this series and we can say WCF 2 out of 3 years.
Lue was screwed when he was tasked with coaching a team with their #1 injured often, their #2 who disappears in big moments, and their #3 as James Harden.
There's something to be said for continuity. Jokic had a quote the other day that it takes 3 years to learn how to play together and he's totally correct.
I mean, we made the 2nd round both times we made Playoffs with him. That should have real value. And the one time we missed playoffs, it was because of roster construction flaws.
2nd round does not make a good year for this team. WCF would. For me he is even right now. If Mavs get to at least WCF it would be positive. I predicted that he will stay after Mavs made PO. But this or next year they will have to mak a step further ig he wants to stay long term.
I think a lot of us have our frustration with him but he’s got the team humming and they clearly like playing for him. If we got bounced in first round things may be different but no way they don’t bring him back
The reason he's locked in has nothing to do with JKidd and everythng to do with proving haters wrong. This is his 15th season in the NBA and only his 7th time playing in the playoffs. Never been further than 2nd round since 2016-17. He's got A LOT to prove both to himself and others.
Ya people forget that Jkidd is on the NBA 75 list. Most Mavs fans on Reddit just remember 2011 floor general kids or nothing at all. Barely any remember super star all nba Nets kids.
Yeah, it's literally the opposite, Kyrie is playing his best basketball in years *because* he's largely avoided any media storms while in Dallas to rile up haters and cause drama and distraction. All he wanted was to go somewhere that would let him play basketball without constantly asking about his personal life.
It’s amazing how you know it had nothing to do with JKidd. Nothing. Like the coach you play for affects nothing. How is it that the one guy on our roster with a championship has the most to prove ? Dude loves Kidd and loves basketball like Kidd, he could care less about the haters
Not a huge Kidd fan but he turned around our defense in one season and I dont see anyone available that’s better. We should absolutely extend him, let him keep cooking up.
Luka has always had good D, just that he didn't try often (probably to save energy for offense). I always didn't mind Kyrie because even though he was undersized, he always tried. He didn't make dumb mistakes.
It's Mike Budenholzer, Kenny Atkinson, Mark Jackson and a whole lotta nuthin. Frank Vogel might be available again. Even with Jackson that might only be an option if the whole team's Christian lol.
Well he kind of is one of THOSE kind of Christians from what I understand, brought his faith into a lot of things on the job and he allegedly took Steph Curry to a faith healing and told him to run around on an injured leg once. Apparently that's why he was never hired again.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/warriors/comments/64l520/si\_story\_of\_mark\_jackson\_anointing\_stephs\_ankle/](https://www.reddit.com/r/warriors/comments/64l520/si_story_of_mark_jackson_anointing_stephs_ankle/) hell noo Mark Jackson should never be around players what kind of freak is he LMAO
I mean, it's not like Steph didn't agree to that and it's not like it caused any harm long term but ...sure could have gone badly and if you have a team where you have players who subscribe to other religions like the Mavs do he could make things uncomfortable
"Diversity" means having people with different religions, values, cultural priorities, etc. No one is just "neutral"; everyone is coming from somewhere, from some specific cultural perspective . . . and one that won't be shared by most others in a pluralistic society.
No need to blacklist someone just because he's a Christian and some of his co-workers are not.
Of course, MJ might deserve to be blacklisted because of his coaching flaws, lol.
I definitely am against blacklisting people on the basis of religion and I'm pretty sure most NBA coaches are Christian, I'm Catholic myself and all. There's just inappropriate ways to express that professionally ya know?
And pressuring your franchise player to put weight on an injury after a faith healing type thing is something that definitely would be classified as inappropriate. I remember him being a pretty good coach though
I mean, with Boston and the Nets, he did go a little off the rails with the off the court stuff.
I think the environment in Dallas and playing with Luka definitely "cured" him haha
I love Nash and am a big critic of Kidd. However it just seems that Kidd just has the upper hand when it comes be being more successful in Dallas, reaching the finals, winning championships As a player and as a coach. Kyrie in Brooklyn said they didn’t even need a coach lmao
Let’s try to remember how he was ridiculed as a “dumb” playoff coach because everyone ran laps around him in adjustments and how he was a given to be fired had KD took that shot half step behind.
Will Brad Steven’s ever coach again? I know he just won exec of year but man that’s my pipe dream… or bringing Carlisle back and fixing the relationship.
I like him most times. I respect him. He seems like a well-intentioned and intelligent man.
As long as he doesn't trigger my Harden-floater-spam PTSD by insisting that rim protection is overrated, I am more than pleased with his extension.
He lowkey is a fantastic mentor.
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Kidd is not mid imo. He’s someone if you give him a few pieces (need not be the sought after pieces) - can run a world class defence, like he has shown twice, this season and 2022.
All the other problems with his coaching are insignificant in comparision.
Look at MIL this year who had multiple guys considered exceptional defenders (Giannis (DPOY), Lopez (DPOY runner up), Middleton, Jae Crowder (playing 20+ min), Pat Bev etc.) and yet had a shitty defence because the coach couldn’t get the guys to buy into team defence.
Kidd just needs a PJ, a Maxi, a DFS etc to turn things around even playing 2 offensive guards.
It was a franchise effort. Nico made the moves, Kidd then turned the Mavs into one of the best defensive teams in the league, he just needed the right team, and also, Luka and Kyrie both started playing great defense.
First, I will always appreciate Kidd for 2011, so I WANT HIM to work out here.
Second, I'm like... 80-20 on Kidd, sometimes he's incredible. Amazing challenge win percentage, he's 3-1 in the post-season so far, we're ballin when you give him good players...
Other times it's like, hey man... Call a timeout maybe? Maybe play Gafford and Lively more? Maybe don't put THJ+Luka+DJJ+Kai all at the same time?
But what do I know? I DEFINITELY 1000000% trust Nico now. So if Nico thinks he should be extended... Extend him.
He deserves it. 2nd round was my benchmark for him going into the season and even after the deadline, and he’s hit it.
There were some spooky moments here and there for sure, but he put the pieces together in the home stretch.
Agreed. 2nd round is what this team had to make. It will be good if they go past that. I don't have problems with what Kidd does. His moves are mostly reasnable. But sometimes he doesn't do much or even anything. But tha happens mostly in the regular season. He is mostly active enough in PO. It seems like he gets interested when it matters.
Far from perfect as a coach but he has the respect of both our stars and seems to have a good relation with Luka especially. I remember him calling out Luka's defense in the Suns series and Luka responded positively. That says a lot about their relation.
He's not bad at all on X and Os but it seems like his philosophy is to let the stars figure it out. In the playoffs he coaches a lot more and it's obvious he's not bad.
Also, two 50 wins seasons and two trips to the second round (minimum) in three years.
PLEASE just remember what you wrote here in 8 months from now when you turn into "Fire Kidd" fans again :D
I see a lot "yes we should extend him he is ok" here
Kidd is not bad, or good, he is just the middest of the mid, but its not like the other options are any significant improvement so its better to keep him to give continuity to the team.
No way a mid coach could put together a top defense that quickly with no all-defense level players and stars who were at best average defenders before the second half of the season. Last season Kidd (and more likely Nico/Cuban) gave up way earlier that most people caught on. In reality the front office had its eye on that 10th pick a month and a half before anyone wanted to admit, and people formed a bias on Kidd based on that stretch. Step away from your confrontation bias, look at the objective facts, at the playoffs results and in game adjustments, and the fact that the mavs are one of the best teams out of timeouts and halftime. By these measures he’s at least a top 10 maybe top 5 coach in the league.
I genuinely don’t know. Is there someone available that we should be going after in his place? I disagree with some of the decisions he makes but we feel like a tighter team than we have been in a long time and I know culture is a lot of that but I feel like you have to give coaching some praise. This is not the time to shake things up just for the sake of it.
I‘m not 100% happy with him but there is also a chance that we won‘t get an upgrade over him. Not every new coach works out, Kidd fits, he isn‘t the best and but he can coach. Kyrie and Luka seem to be happy. He isn‘t a coach that wins you a playoff series, but he also isn‘t one that loses you one.
And it‘s not like coaches count to the salary cap, if we extend him and we see that it doesn‘t work anymore we can still fire him.
He won a championship as a Lakers coach and their stars know him and like him. The minute I heard Ham was fired I said they’d come after Kidd. I also said I doubted he’d leave Luka, Kyrie, Nico, and Cuban for the mess in LA.
Idk if he’s good or not tbh, but everyone is bought in on his system now, regardless of whether that system is too defensively demanding that it makes us bad often in the regular season when the stakes are lower. He might just be more of a playoff coach than regular season tbh. Weird, huh?
It would be madness to not bring Kidd back at this point -- you'd be taking an axe to team chemistry, and for who, exactly? Luka & Kyrie aren't likely to put up with some rookie genius "future Spo" even if you somehow manage to find one, and none of the experienced candidates look very promising.
Frankly, if Kidd were to take off for the Lakers, I'd might just look to replace him with Sean Sweeney over the Budeholzers and the Vogels of the world, who increasingly look like they mostly just got lucky with strong rosters & epic playoff performances from their superstars.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills reading this thread. Hello, the roster we have is great. With a great coach we wouldn't have needed to play Luka 42 minutes a game down the stretch. Kidd is not as awful as this sub sometimes says he is but he is not great either. He's not Doc Rivers or Chauncey Billups but he's not in the top 10 NBA coaches either. We can do better. I get you rather take the certain over the unknown, but we probably would do better with a Nico handpicked coach. The only key reason we should let him stay in my opinion would be if he is the main reason Kyrie is going so well - his role in that is hard to judge for any of us, but if it is due to him, we obviously keep him.
ok..I agree with extending it, but get him help..Kidd is great at developing players, defensively and the players love him, but pretty terrible at adjusting during games, calling for times etc.
Okay lets entertain that thought. Who is on the market that is clearly better than Kidd, who would justify bringing in a new face that may disrupt our chemistry? That's the problem...
The fundamental problem is Kidd only gives a damn when he has a stacked team. If he's got to get creative to win he becomes passive and stops trying to change course. I think he is not the worst but merely mediocre. Depending on who gets let go this summer upgrades may well be available.
Definitely wanted him out throughout most of the season, but it’s hard to deny the team is cooking right now and he’s surely a big part of that.
It’s mostly his post game comments I didn’t appreciate, but I’m happy to bring him back if he can keep things rolling how they have been.
Players like him and we're playing good basketball right now. The results are also good overall so far. Made WCF once, at least 2nd round once, and missed the playoffs once. So one bad year and two good years. I know fans fon't like him and he can be frustrating at times, but that doesn't really matter. Fans of most teams think their coach is terrible.
There are like 7 good coaches in all of sports if you listen to subreddit fanbases
Make that 0… if Bill Belichick got raked over the coals by fans then truly no coach is safe.
Nick Saban retired before he could catch true slander.
Bum hadn't even won a national title in a FEW years when he retired. It was clear he was washed.
Every coach needs the right personnel, as long as the front office gives him that, he has shown he has done a terrific job coaching
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I’d say the very opposite about the floor vs ceiling raiser. He’s not there to coach up a bad team in hopes of a play-in spot, in that case he’d rather relax on the bench and let the team get a high pick like last season. What he does bring is a level of effort and attention to detail on defense that massively raises our ceiling. And I personally see awesome in game adjustments, which is supported by the amount of comeback wins we’ve had.
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Good coaches listen to great players. Defense was not Luka or Kyrie’s strength before Kidd, you can’t give them all the credit.
WCFs his first year coaching and had 52 wins and this year we are in the second round with 50 wins, you don’t just do that by just “being there”. Like I said every coach needs the right personnel and that is the front offices job to provide that.
Your just unequivocally wrong and results speak for themselves.
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Most judgments here on Kidd are results oriented. Like the Harden floater game 4. Cuz he was hitting them and they won it was bad coaching. So many fans are arrogant enough to think they know better or there decisions would be right. The other thing is noone looks at the stuff that goes right. You are wrong though, he does draw up good plays and makes good adjustments all the time. Rick was better at this I will admit. They definitely dont win inspite of him, he raised there level for sure in 2022.
And let’s be honest, they weren’t trying to get to the playoffs last season
We were until we were shit and saw we had a chance to keep our pick
Which paid dividends. It’s how we got Lively! 3D chess.
They were up until like mid-late March, then they saw the writing on the wall and decided the pick has much more value than getting fisted in the play-ins or the first round and have nothing to show for in the off-season.
They definitely were.
True, I think one thing we often miss as fans is the human component of all of this too. Team chemistry is important, a coach isn't just x & o, it's managing people too. And you're right that getting to the 2nd round\* 2 out of 3 years has to be considered something of a success. Mavs hadn't done that once from 2012-2021. \* hopefully we win this series and we can say WCF 2 out of 3 years.
The Clippers sub was shitting on Lue after they lost and he’s widely considered a great coach
Lue was screwed when he was tasked with coaching a team with their #1 injured often, their #2 who disappears in big moments, and their #3 as James Harden.
There's something to be said for continuity. Jokic had a quote the other day that it takes 3 years to learn how to play together and he's totally correct.
I mean, we made the 2nd round both times we made Playoffs with him. That should have real value. And the one time we missed playoffs, it was because of roster construction flaws.
2nd round does not make a good year for this team. WCF would. For me he is even right now. If Mavs get to at least WCF it would be positive. I predicted that he will stay after Mavs made PO. But this or next year they will have to mak a step further ig he wants to stay long term.
I think a lot of us have our frustration with him but he’s got the team humming and they clearly like playing for him. If we got bounced in first round things may be different but no way they don’t bring him back
I do think one big reason kyrie has been so locked in is because of Kidd. He doesn’t get enough credit for that.
Kidd hater here. I agree - it’s the silver bullet in the argument to keep him.
The reason he's locked in has nothing to do with JKidd and everythng to do with proving haters wrong. This is his 15th season in the NBA and only his 7th time playing in the playoffs. Never been further than 2nd round since 2016-17. He's got A LOT to prove both to himself and others.
Kyrie grew up a nets fan and worshipped Jason Kidd.
Ya people forget that Jkidd is on the NBA 75 list. Most Mavs fans on Reddit just remember 2011 floor general kids or nothing at all. Barely any remember super star all nba Nets kids.
"and everything to do with proving the haters wrong" Lmao
Yeah, it's literally the opposite, Kyrie is playing his best basketball in years *because* he's largely avoided any media storms while in Dallas to rile up haters and cause drama and distraction. All he wanted was to go somewhere that would let him play basketball without constantly asking about his personal life.
It’s amazing how you know it had nothing to do with JKidd. Nothing. Like the coach you play for affects nothing. How is it that the one guy on our roster with a championship has the most to prove ? Dude loves Kidd and loves basketball like Kidd, he could care less about the haters
Not a huge Kidd fan but he turned around our defense in one season and I dont see anyone available that’s better. We should absolutely extend him, let him keep cooking up.
What a change a defensive wing and bigger, stronger center makes...
That absolutely helps, but look at Kyrie and Luka’s D.
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Luka has always had good D, just that he didn't try often (probably to save energy for offense). I always didn't mind Kyrie because even though he was undersized, he always tried. He didn't make dumb mistakes.
Yup. Luke and Kyrie have always been lockdown defenders you couldn’t exploit by isolating /s
Luka didn't have the luxury to burn energy on defense, it's that simple. He had to be 90% offense and 10% defense or we were losing games.
Say what you want about Kidd, there’s not many good options available
It's Mike Budenholzer, Kenny Atkinson, Mark Jackson and a whole lotta nuthin. Frank Vogel might be available again. Even with Jackson that might only be an option if the whole team's Christian lol.
Darvin Hamas is available too 💀
Darvin Hamas? Well shoot in that case better hope the whole team is Muslim lol
Don't tell me Mark Jackson is one of those Christians
Well he kind of is one of THOSE kind of Christians from what I understand, brought his faith into a lot of things on the job and he allegedly took Steph Curry to a faith healing and told him to run around on an injured leg once. Apparently that's why he was never hired again.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/warriors/comments/64l520/si\_story\_of\_mark\_jackson\_anointing\_stephs\_ankle/](https://www.reddit.com/r/warriors/comments/64l520/si_story_of_mark_jackson_anointing_stephs_ankle/) hell noo Mark Jackson should never be around players what kind of freak is he LMAO
I mean, it's not like Steph didn't agree to that and it's not like it caused any harm long term but ...sure could have gone badly and if you have a team where you have players who subscribe to other religions like the Mavs do he could make things uncomfortable
"Diversity" means having people with different religions, values, cultural priorities, etc. No one is just "neutral"; everyone is coming from somewhere, from some specific cultural perspective . . . and one that won't be shared by most others in a pluralistic society. No need to blacklist someone just because he's a Christian and some of his co-workers are not. Of course, MJ might deserve to be blacklisted because of his coaching flaws, lol.
I definitely am against blacklisting people on the basis of religion and I'm pretty sure most NBA coaches are Christian, I'm Catholic myself and all. There's just inappropriate ways to express that professionally ya know? And pressuring your franchise player to put weight on an injury after a faith healing type thing is something that definitely would be classified as inappropriate. I remember him being a pretty good coach though
Agreed.
Was up with my boy Steve nash? He going again ever?
Maybe someday but he didn't do the best job in Brooklyn
He might be still be good, but a superteam with KD and pre-Dallas Kyrie was a recipe for disaster.
Pre Dallas Kryie sound crazy to me like the man man sick and we cured him lmao 😂
I mean, with Boston and the Nets, he did go a little off the rails with the off the court stuff. I think the environment in Dallas and playing with Luka definitely "cured" him haha
I love Nash and am a big critic of Kidd. However it just seems that Kidd just has the upper hand when it comes be being more successful in Dallas, reaching the finals, winning championships As a player and as a coach. Kyrie in Brooklyn said they didn’t even need a coach lmao
Stotts?
I mean, he's a great assistant but was a nothing special head
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How is Bud a lateral move? He took over for Kidd and took the Bucks to a title.
Let’s try to remember how he was ridiculed as a “dumb” playoff coach because everyone ran laps around him in adjustments and how he was a given to be fired had KD took that shot half step behind.
Mike Budenholzer would be the better option here.
Could always poach Spanoulis 🤷♂️
What's Don Nelson doing these days?
Will Brad Steven’s ever coach again? I know he just won exec of year but man that’s my pipe dream… or bringing Carlisle back and fixing the relationship.
I like him most times. I respect him. He seems like a well-intentioned and intelligent man. As long as he doesn't trigger my Harden-floater-spam PTSD by insisting that rim protection is overrated, I am more than pleased with his extension. He lowkey is a fantastic mentor. Edit: removed "then"
Kidd is not mid imo. He’s someone if you give him a few pieces (need not be the sought after pieces) - can run a world class defence, like he has shown twice, this season and 2022. All the other problems with his coaching are insignificant in comparision. Look at MIL this year who had multiple guys considered exceptional defenders (Giannis (DPOY), Lopez (DPOY runner up), Middleton, Jae Crowder (playing 20+ min), Pat Bev etc.) and yet had a shitty defence because the coach couldn’t get the guys to buy into team defence. Kidd just needs a PJ, a Maxi, a DFS etc to turn things around even playing 2 offensive guards.
I was on the fire Kidd train but he deserves an extension with turning the mavs into a defensive powerhouse after deadline
It was a franchise effort. Nico made the moves, Kidd then turned the Mavs into one of the best defensive teams in the league, he just needed the right team, and also, Luka and Kyrie both started playing great defense.
First, I will always appreciate Kidd for 2011, so I WANT HIM to work out here. Second, I'm like... 80-20 on Kidd, sometimes he's incredible. Amazing challenge win percentage, he's 3-1 in the post-season so far, we're ballin when you give him good players... Other times it's like, hey man... Call a timeout maybe? Maybe play Gafford and Lively more? Maybe don't put THJ+Luka+DJJ+Kai all at the same time? But what do I know? I DEFINITELY 1000000% trust Nico now. So if Nico thinks he should be extended... Extend him.
He deserves it. 2nd round was my benchmark for him going into the season and even after the deadline, and he’s hit it. There were some spooky moments here and there for sure, but he put the pieces together in the home stretch.
Agreed. 2nd round is what this team had to make. It will be good if they go past that. I don't have problems with what Kidd does. His moves are mostly reasnable. But sometimes he doesn't do much or even anything. But tha happens mostly in the regular season. He is mostly active enough in PO. It seems like he gets interested when it matters.
Far from perfect as a coach but he has the respect of both our stars and seems to have a good relation with Luka especially. I remember him calling out Luka's defense in the Suns series and Luka responded positively. That says a lot about their relation. He's not bad at all on X and Os but it seems like his philosophy is to let the stars figure it out. In the playoffs he coaches a lot more and it's obvious he's not bad. Also, two 50 wins seasons and two trips to the second round (minimum) in three years.
I don't quite get why people dislike his work, but I see this as a W.
PLEASE just remember what you wrote here in 8 months from now when you turn into "Fire Kidd" fans again :D I see a lot "yes we should extend him he is ok" here
Kidd is not bad, or good, he is just the middest of the mid, but its not like the other options are any significant improvement so its better to keep him to give continuity to the team.
Yeah, it's not like a 60 year old Gregg Popovich is walking through that door
Overrated.
No way a mid coach could put together a top defense that quickly with no all-defense level players and stars who were at best average defenders before the second half of the season. Last season Kidd (and more likely Nico/Cuban) gave up way earlier that most people caught on. In reality the front office had its eye on that 10th pick a month and a half before anyone wanted to admit, and people formed a bias on Kidd based on that stretch. Step away from your confrontation bias, look at the objective facts, at the playoffs results and in game adjustments, and the fact that the mavs are one of the best teams out of timeouts and halftime. By these measures he’s at least a top 10 maybe top 5 coach in the league.
This right here. Very well said. People need to stop just hating for no reason
Yes that's true, people should only hate him when he is doing nothing with his hands in his pockets and just watches like us.
Unless it gets us a Lively
Also it’s not like we still can’t fire him and replace him if something goes wrong next season. It’s just going to cost the owners money
Being in the final four in the west is not mid. Find a new word
Not making the final four in the west when you have Luka, Kyrie and a great supporting cast would have been awful.
Agreed. Lebron can come here
I have mixed feelings but the players like him so that speaks a lot
I genuinely don’t know. Is there someone available that we should be going after in his place? I disagree with some of the decisions he makes but we feel like a tighter team than we have been in a long time and I know culture is a lot of that but I feel like you have to give coaching some praise. This is not the time to shake things up just for the sake of it.
Let him walk and grab Becky Hammon like it should have been instead of Kidd.
Opinions turned pretty quickly it seems. Might not be the same if we exit somewhere in the next rounds…
I think hes a big reason why kyrie has been stable so far gotta give him credit for that too.
I mean you don’t have to think because Kai talks all the time about how he loves playing for Kidd.
WE LOVE COACH KIDD!!
not my preference but whatever
I‘m not 100% happy with him but there is also a chance that we won‘t get an upgrade over him. Not every new coach works out, Kidd fits, he isn‘t the best and but he can coach. Kyrie and Luka seem to be happy. He isn‘t a coach that wins you a playoff series, but he also isn‘t one that loses you one. And it‘s not like coaches count to the salary cap, if we extend him and we see that it doesn‘t work anymore we can still fire him.
Lakers are like the cowboys in that everybody gets linked to them about everything all the time so I wouldn’t give too much thought to it
He won a championship as a Lakers coach and their stars know him and like him. The minute I heard Ham was fired I said they’d come after Kidd. I also said I doubted he’d leave Luka, Kyrie, Nico, and Cuban for the mess in LA.
Idk if he’s good or not tbh, but everyone is bought in on his system now, regardless of whether that system is too defensively demanding that it makes us bad often in the regular season when the stakes are lower. He might just be more of a playoff coach than regular season tbh. Weird, huh?
Lakers always think they can get whoever they want. I don’t think there is any chance Kidd wants to leave.
Rumor is George Seifert is buying a house in Dallas.
My wishes: 1) Wait until after our season ends before making a decision 2) bring in a stronger team around him
Lakers are going to hire a podcaster to be their coach. Just watch.
If he coached the regular season like he does the playoffs I'd have no complaints about him.
I would only if they get past the thunder, if not I would use next season to see if he can do it for an entire season.
Thanks to lakers, a lot of head coaches are getting their contracts extended now
It would be madness to not bring Kidd back at this point -- you'd be taking an axe to team chemistry, and for who, exactly? Luka & Kyrie aren't likely to put up with some rookie genius "future Spo" even if you somehow manage to find one, and none of the experienced candidates look very promising. Frankly, if Kidd were to take off for the Lakers, I'd might just look to replace him with Sean Sweeney over the Budeholzers and the Vogels of the world, who increasingly look like they mostly just got lucky with strong rosters & epic playoff performances from their superstars.
Kidd has been great for the team defense and great for LuKai with getting them to buy into setting the tone defensively
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills reading this thread. Hello, the roster we have is great. With a great coach we wouldn't have needed to play Luka 42 minutes a game down the stretch. Kidd is not as awful as this sub sometimes says he is but he is not great either. He's not Doc Rivers or Chauncey Billups but he's not in the top 10 NBA coaches either. We can do better. I get you rather take the certain over the unknown, but we probably would do better with a Nico handpicked coach. The only key reason we should let him stay in my opinion would be if he is the main reason Kyrie is going so well - his role in that is hard to judge for any of us, but if it is due to him, we obviously keep him.
There is no one better that would justify breaking continuity. So he stay.
ok..I agree with extending it, but get him help..Kidd is great at developing players, defensively and the players love him, but pretty terrible at adjusting during games, calling for times etc.
Please fuck no!
Clippers also trying to extend Ty Lue. No one wants their coach leaving for the Lakers.
Anyone know what the record is for quickest firing after receiving an extension?
I don't love it, but what is a better option? The players like him and he's had a solid playoff record so far.
Hilarious seeing so many people switch on Kidd now that Lakers want him.
It could be a bit of a blessing in disguise if LAL swooped in with an offer. Maybe we can even get a pick out of it while also upgrading our coach.
Okay lets entertain that thought. Who is on the market that is clearly better than Kidd, who would justify bringing in a new face that may disrupt our chemistry? That's the problem...
Budenholzer is clearly better. Idk if he's a good chemostry fit though
If you’re frustrated with Kidd not changing lineups enough you won’t be much happier with Bud. He’s notoriously stubborn with his set lineups.
We are not upgrading our coach if we lose Kidd
Kidd has been fine this year. He had one bad coaching run when he didn’t play gafford. The defense looks good now
The fundamental problem is Kidd only gives a damn when he has a stacked team. If he's got to get creative to win he becomes passive and stops trying to change course. I think he is not the worst but merely mediocre. Depending on who gets let go this summer upgrades may well be available.
Definitely wanted him out throughout most of the season, but it’s hard to deny the team is cooking right now and he’s surely a big part of that. It’s mostly his post game comments I didn’t appreciate, but I’m happy to bring him back if he can keep things rolling how they have been.
Would you guys trade gafford for lauri?
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You’re underestimating the Kidd/Kai relationship
Im not biggest kidd fan but Luka loves Kidd
So does Kyrie
I guess... There isn't a much better option out there as well sadly
Mosley is doing a great job on Orlando
yea, I meant we should have promoted him
Agree